European Leagues.

[clarshack]

Aston Villa showing the gulf in class between the Scottish League and the Premier League.

They beat Everton by nearly the same score the other day with pretty much the same team.

[From the Bunker]

Premier League teams shouldn't be in the conference league. It was created to help the smaller nations. The other top 5 league's shouldn't be in it either.

Yes, the only caveat being is if by some fluke a 2nd tier club in any of those top 5 leagues win a Cup competition, they should be allowed in.

West ham are the last team from the 2nd tier to win the FA CUP.

Think (Ironically) Aston Villa were the last 2nd tier club to win the League Cup.

[seafoid]

The bigger leagues have far more money. Scottish teams have no chance against Premier League teams. The only real competition Irish fans see in Europe is when the League of Ireland and Irish League teams get their days in the sun in August playing Icelanders and Latvians.

[Captain Obvious]

Championship League draw

Group A: Bayern Munich, Manchester United, FC Copenhagen, Galatasaray

Group B: Sevilla, Arsenal, PSV Eindhoven, RC Lens

Group C: Napoli, Real Madrid, Braga, Union Berlin

Group D: Benfica, Inter Milan, Salzburg, Real Sociedad

Group E: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio, Celtic

Group F: Paris St-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan, Newcastle

Group G: Manchester City, RB Leipzig, Red Star Belgrade, Young Boys

Group H: Barcelona, Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Royal Antwerp

The group stages will run from 19 September to 13 December, with the final at Wembley on 1 June.


Interesting group for Newcastle on their return to Champions League. The defending champions given a group that wouldn't look out of place in the Europa League.

[seafoid]

Championship League draw

Group A: Bayern Munich, Manchester United, FC Copenhagen, Galatasaray

Group B: Sevilla, Arsenal, PSV Eindhoven, RC Lens

Group C: Napoli, Real Madrid, Braga, Union Berlin

Group D: Benfica, Inter Milan, Salzburg, Real Sociedad

Group E: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio, Celtic

Group F: Paris St-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan, Newcastle

Group G: Manchester City, RB Leipzig, Red Star Belgrade, Young Boys

Group H: Barcelona, Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Royal Antwerp

The group stages will run from 19 September to 13 December, with the final at Wembley on 1 June.


Interesting group for Newcastle on their return to Champions League. The defending champions given a group that wouldn't look out of place in the Europa League.

Where do Donetsk play these days? I think Donetsk is occupied by the Russians

[Saffrongael]

Championship League draw

Group A: Bayern Munich, Manchester United, FC Copenhagen, Galatasaray

Group B: Sevilla, Arsenal, PSV Eindhoven, RC Lens

Group C: Napoli, Real Madrid, Braga, Union Berlin

Group D: Benfica, Inter Milan, Salzburg, Real Sociedad

Group E: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio, Celtic

Group F: Paris St-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan, Newcastle

Group G: Manchester City, RB Leipzig, Red Star Belgrade, Young Boys

Group H: Barcelona, Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Royal Antwerp

The group stages will run from 19 September to 13 December, with the final at Wembley on 1 June.


Interesting group for Newcastle on their return to Champions League. The defending champions given a group that wouldn't look out of place in the Europa League.

Leipzig who are in the CL every year ?

[seafoid]

Championship League draw

Group A: Bayern Munich, Manchester United, FC Copenhagen, Galatasaray

Group B: Sevilla, Arsenal, PSV Eindhoven, RC Lens

Group C: Napoli, Real Madrid, Braga, Union Berlin

Group D: Benfica, Inter Milan, Salzburg, Real Sociedad

Group E: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio, Celtic

Group F: Paris St-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan, Newcastle

Group G: Manchester City, RB Leipzig, Red Star Belgrade, Young Boys

Group H: Barcelona, Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Royal Antwerp

The group stages will run from 19 September to 13 December, with the final at Wembley on 1 June.


Interesting group for Newcastle on their return to Champions League. The defending champions given a group that wouldn't look out of place in the Europa League.

Hard to believe Red Star once won this competition.

[clarshack]

Hard to believe Red Star once won this competition.

They won it before Money corrupted football and they had a fantastic group of players in 1991.

[Captain Obvious]

Leipzig who are in the CL every year ?

Their first year in the Champions league was in season 2017/18.  Back in March Manchester City beat them 7-0. They have played in the Europa league three times in the last five years which included group elimination and knock out stage exit to the might of Rangers.

Hard to believe Red Star once won this competition.

Yes 32 years ago when the competition with 30 teams was called the European cup and straight knock out format. Darko Pančev won the European Golden boot that year. Yugoslavia could well have won the European championship the following year, their replacement Denmark did instead.

[imtommygunn]

I was watching a documentary on Italian 90 lately and there was a reckoning by some that if Yugoslavia had performed at that World Cup and got near winning it then that war may not have happened.

I thought it was a stretch myself but it was Yugoslavs saying it.

[dec]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66780283

Paul Pogba: Juventus midfielder provisionally suspended for anti-doping offence

Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba has been provisionally suspended from playing because of an anti-doping offence. Italy's national anti-doping tribunal (Nado) said Pogba returned a test with elevated levels of testosterone after Juve's 3-0 win at Udinese on 20 August.France international Pogba, 30, was an unused substitute but was selected at random for post-match drug testing.If found guilty of doping, he could face a ban of between two and four years.
Juventus said in a statement: "Juventus Football Club announces that today, 11 September, 2023, the footballer Paul Labile Pogba received a precautionary suspension order from the National Anti-Doping Tribunal following the results of tests carried out on 20 August, 2023.

[seafoid]

Hard to believe Red Star once won this competition.

They won it before Money corrupted football and they had a fantastic group of players in 1991.

Steaua Bucharest won it in 96. It must have been the Down jerseys at the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWRE6Xs6FMY

[Milltown Row2]

Good game so far... Liverpool evens and based on Saturdays game will bounce back

[jcpen]

Is Onana really any better than DeGea?

[From the Bunker]

Is Onana really any better than DeGea?

Is DeGea still a free agent?