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Truth hurts

How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?

Hedgehunter

Quote from: Truth hurts on September 16, 2022, 02:21:28 PM
How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?

Grades within Grades is the simplest way to put it.

Johnnysboys

Quote from: Truth hurts on September 16, 2022, 02:21:28 PM
How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?

Too many. What value is there in a junior C championship medal that doesn't get you into ulster? Not worth a damn. The teams competing in these finals know it's embarrassing stuff. The two beaten semi finalists in the A grade automatically make up the B final - what a stupid idea. Championship is championship - if your beat your beat - try harder next season.

snoopdog

Quote from: Johnnysboys on September 16, 2022, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 16, 2022, 02:21:28 PM
How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?


Too many. What value is there in a junior C championship medal that doesn't get you into ulster? Not worth a damn. The teams competing in these finals know it's embarrassing stuff. The two beaten semi finalists in the A grade automatically make up the B final - what a stupid idea. Championship is championship - if your beat your beat - try harder next season.
Very simplistic way of looking at it. It matters a lot to the girls playing it.  Dublin have a lot of various junior championships and to the lads taking part it's as important to them as the senior championship is to the bodens and kilmacuds. Gaa is about taking part. A love of the game. Not everyone is at thr top level.

terrifictommy

It 100% matters to players, no doubt. Winning is winning. My personal opinion is it diminishes the Championship with so many grades within grades and back doors.

Castlewellan got over line fairly easy blast night going on scoreboard. Thought Glenn would maybe have won that game

KeyboardWman

Covid outbreak in a top south down club this week. Up to 5 players expected to be missing tomorrow. Huge loss to them.

manwithnoplan

Quote from: KeyboardWman on September 17, 2022, 12:15:20 PM
Covid outbreak in a top south down club this week. Up to 5 players expected to be missing tomorrow. Huge loss to them.

Unnamed club may or may not have some players missing, top notch reporting there.

KeyboardWman

Also Banty in as the other selector with Laverty and Co.

supersub

Quote from: snoopdog on September 17, 2022, 06:51:20 AM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on September 16, 2022, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 16, 2022, 02:21:28 PM
How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?


Too many. What value is there in a junior C championship medal that doesn't get you into ulster? Not worth a damn. The teams competing in these finals know it's embarrassing stuff. The two beaten semi finalists in the A grade automatically make up the B final - what a stupid idea. Championship is championship - if your beat your beat - try harder next season.
Very simplistic way of looking at it. It matters a lot to the girls playing it.  Dublin have a lot of various junior championships and to the lads taking part it's as important to them as the senior championship is to the bodens and kilmacuds. Gaa is about taking part. A love of the game. Not everyone is at thr top level.

Does it though? It's a bit much in my opinion and our club was in one of them. It's not really a championship if 6 teams can make a final in each grade

Johnnysboys

Quote from: supersub on September 17, 2022, 05:16:10 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on September 17, 2022, 06:51:20 AM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on September 16, 2022, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 16, 2022, 02:21:28 PM
How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?


Too many. What value is there in a junior C championship medal that doesn't get you into ulster? Not worth a damn. The teams competing in these finals know it's embarrassing stuff. The two beaten semi finalists in the A grade automatically make up the B final - what a stupid idea. Championship is championship - if your beat your beat - try harder next season.
Very simplistic way of looking at it. It matters a lot to the girls playing it.  Dublin have a lot of various junior championships and to the lads taking part it's as important to them as the senior championship is to the bodens and kilmacuds. Gaa is about taking part. A love of the game. Not everyone is at thr top level.

Does it though? It's a bit much in my opinion and our club was in one of them. It's not really a championship if 6 teams can make a final in each grade
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There are only 8 teams in senior and intermediate - so literally only two teams don't get medals. It's crazy. And saying it matters to the girls playing in it - I know the girls at my club cudnt give a Damn about it. When beaten in the A junior championship- they are lucky to field in other games.

Mourne Red

Quote from: Johnnysboys on September 17, 2022, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: supersub on September 17, 2022, 05:16:10 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on September 17, 2022, 06:51:20 AM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on September 16, 2022, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 16, 2022, 02:21:28 PM
How many championship finals are there in ladies' football this weekend? Why are there so many?


Too many. What value is there in a junior C championship medal that doesn't get you into ulster? Not worth a damn. The teams competing in these finals know it's embarrassing stuff. The two beaten semi finalists in the A grade automatically make up the B final - what a stupid idea. Championship is championship - if your beat your beat - try harder next season.
Very simplistic way of looking at it. It matters a lot to the girls playing it.  Dublin have a lot of various junior championships and to the lads taking part it's as important to them as the senior championship is to the bodens and kilmacuds. Gaa is about taking part. A love of the game. Not everyone is at thr top level.

Does it though? It's a bit much in my opinion and our club was in one of them. It's not really a championship if 6 teams can make a final in each grade
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There are only 8 teams in senior and intermediate - so literally only two teams don't get medals. It's crazy. And saying it matters to the girls playing in it - I know the girls at my club cudnt give a Damn about it. When beaten in the A junior championship- they are lucky to field in other games.

Agree with the 2 boys, just feels the same as participation trophies that are handed out at underage tournaments

Gaelforce123

Its actually embarrassing. Poster who said they do it in Dublin is incorrect. They have ABCD etc but you play in your championship grade start to finish,
You dont lose in A, drop to B, lose in B, drop to C all in a couple of weeks. These are not good senior age group competitions, win one game in your championship and your guaranteed at least a C final its madness, 2 teams in each grade dont play in at least a semi final and teams celebrate this as success, losing 2 games and winning one to make a final does not sit right. If anything they could look at a B at each grade with winner getting a way back into the A Semis or something similar but at minute they are diluting the credibility of championship success and I know girls involved and if the win any of the finals its an excuse for a night out they'll admit but they dont even want to collect their medals for them if not the A

Johnnysboys

Quote from: Gaelforce123 on September 17, 2022, 09:55:58 PM
Its actually embarrassing. Poster who said they do it in Dublin is incorrect. They have ABCD etc but you play in your championship grade start to finish,
You dont lose in A, drop to B, lose in B, drop to C all in a couple of weeks. These are not good senior age group competitions, win one game in your championship and your guaranteed at least a C final its madness, 2 teams in each grade dont play in at least a semi final and teams celebrate this as success, losing 2 games and winning one to make a final does not sit right. If anything they could look at a B at each grade with winner getting a way back into the A Semis or something similar but at minute they are diluting the credibility of championship success and I know girls involved and if the win any of the finals its an excuse for a night out they'll admit but they dont even want to collect their medals for them if not the A

100% agree

Johnnysboys

Clonduff were very lucky last night. CPN to win tonight and quarter final draw to throw up no big games - it's been a poor championship so far.
Pot 1
Burren
Kilcoo
Loughinisland
Carryduff

Pot 2
CPN/Saul
Mayobridge
Clonduff
Castlewellan

terrifictommy

Poor probably isn't a fair assessment, there have been entertaining encounters but when it's not knock out it doesn't have the same meaning. From next week on I'd guess the stakes will be higher and intensity better.