FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

Started by CĂșig huaire, November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM

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fearbrags


"""Bringing on Whelan and Long were the correct choices. 30 years of Irish football tells you that the final 15 minutes was never going to involve us holding onto the ball. Keeping Murphy on would have been a serious waste.""

as per RTE 91 min - Daryl Murphy slowly makes his way off for Kevin Long.  ;)

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Asal Mor on October 10, 2017, 12:06:10 AM
We gave up a lot of chances in the last few minutes
What match was this? it wasn't tonight.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 10, 2017, 12:25:07 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 10, 2017, 12:06:10 AM
We gave up a lot of chances in the last few minutes
What match was this? it wasn't tonight.
I thought Wales really had only one decent chance the whole game, the Robson kanu header that Randolph made a good save from. Anything else was a half chance at best.
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

Syferus

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Quote from: Asal Mor on October 10, 2017, 12:06:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 09, 2017, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 09, 2017, 11:40:58 PM
Thought O Neills substitutions were poor. Bringing on Whelan and Kevin Long meant we were going to spend the last 10 camped inside our own box while Wales peppered the box with crosses and had 6 or 7 half chances from the edge of the area. If one of them had flown in O Neills would have been crucified for the negativity of his substitutions. They didn't so he's a hero. We hoofed away possession all night too. I think O Neill has been lucky rather than good.

Bringing on Whelan and Long were the correct choices. 30 years of Irish football tells you that the final 15 minutes was never going to involve us holding onto the ball. Keeping Murphy on would have been a serious waste.
Whelan didn't win a tackle or make one telling defensive contribution in the time he was on and needless to say he did nothing constructive. I don't think Long touched it. Bring on Houlihan and Maguire and try to keep the ball. This was Wales minus Bale not France or Germany. We gave up a lot of chances in the last few minutes to a team that's as ordinary as ourselves. Why concede the initiative so completely? We've been caught out enough times doing similar.

Wessi was never coming on after we took the lead. There's not a professional soccer manager in the world who would have done what you're suggesting they do had they the reigns in the last 15 minutes.

The little LOI lad wouldn't even have featured in the Moldova game if not for injuries and suspensions and you're suggesting he come on in that pressure cooker instead of a defensive replacement with Wales swinging in long balls all the time. Madness.

gallsman

Quote from: BennyCake on October 09, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
Ireland have knocked out qute a few teams who did well in the tournament prvious:

Knocked out Euro 92 winners Denmark qualifying for USA 94
Knocked out 1998 3rd place Croatia in Euro 2000 qualifying (although failed to qualify themselves)
Knocked out 98/2000 semi finalists Holland qualifying for 2002 Wold Cup

And now knocked out Euro 16 semi finalists Wales

I've never seen this referred to as "knocking out". It's a ten team qualifying group ffs.

Far, far, too much celebration going on over reaching a playoff. The scenes from the dressing room suggested they'd won the world cup never mind qualified for it. The real challenge is still to come.

Bunch of partition endorsing bastards anyway.

ashman


Syferus

Quote from: gallsman on October 10, 2017, 12:55:59 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 09, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
Ireland have knocked out qute a few teams who did well in the tournament prvious:

Knocked out Euro 92 winners Denmark qualifying for USA 94
Knocked out 1998 3rd place Croatia in Euro 2000 qualifying (although failed to qualify themselves)
Knocked out 98/2000 semi finalists Holland qualifying for 2002 Wold Cup

And now knocked out Euro 16 semi finalists Wales

I've never seen this referred to as "knocking out". It's a ten team qualifying group ffs.

Far, far, too much celebration going on over reaching a playoff. The scenes from the dressing room suggested they'd won the world cup never mind qualified for it. The real challenge is still to come.

Bunch of partition endorsing b**tards anyway.

Must have put a few bob on Wales so.

Asal Mor

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 10, 2017, 12:25:07 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 10, 2017, 12:06:10 AM
We gave up a lot of chances in the last few minutes
What match was this? it wasn't tonight.
They had that header at the back post where the Welsh lad headed it straight at McClean and a few shots from the edge of the box. Not brilliant chances but one could easily fly in and if one had you'd all be slating O Neill for his fearful, negative approach. The Irish players were heroic in their defending but lads who are able to pass the ball at club level can't string two passes together under O Neill as the instruction is obviously to hoof it long and often.

laoislad

Quote from: Asal Mor on October 09, 2017, 11:40:58 PM
Thought O Neills substitutions were poor. Bringing on Whelan and Kevin Long meant we were going to spend the last 10 camped inside our own box while Wales peppered the box with crosses and had 6 or 7 half chances from the edge of the area.If one of them had flown in O Neills would have been crucified for the negativity of his substitutions. They didn't so he's a hero. We hoofed away possession all night too. I think O Neill has been lucky rather than good.
He wouldn't have been crucified because Wales scored though. It would have been because he is a Nordie.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

rrhf


JoG2

Quote from: rrhf on October 10, 2017, 08:17:20 AM
Admit it yes can't do it without us!

Who is 'us'? Ireland won last night, we're Irish, how about enjoying our victory?!

seafoid

Quote from: ONeill on October 09, 2017, 10:27:30 PM
That was exhilarating.

Just glad your country could join ours in losing in the play offs.
Tyrone is not a country. The all Ireland semi is not a play off either.The Dubs got all bouncy.

https://youtu.be/x9UU8CiFEYw
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: ashman on October 10, 2017, 01:09:25 AM
Wales aren't worth a shit sans Bale .
On paper the current wales team is much stronger than Ireland.
A high percentage of their staring team are premier league regulars.
Something we cant say at the minute.
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

macdanger2

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on October 10, 2017, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: ashman on October 10, 2017, 01:09:25 AM
Wales aren't worth a shit sans Bale .
On paper the current wales team is much stronger than Ireland.
A high percentage of their staring team are premier league regulars.
Something we cant say at the minute.

We've actually improved with PL starters in the last couple of years - Ward, Duffy, Clark, Brady, Hendrick, Arter are all regular starters. Long, Mcclean and Walters are all occasional PL starters

laoislad

Quote from: rrhf on October 10, 2017, 08:17:20 AM
Admit it yes can't do it without us!
If Martin O'Neill was as good as you say he is then we should have won that group.
As great as last night was we missed a big opportunity not to qualify automatically imo and that's down to O'Neill and how he approached previous games.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.