Official Cavan GAA Thread

[Mr. Pain]

Townies beat Cuckoos
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem
Crowes beat the Halt
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh
Rorys beat Scrabby
Keoganville beat Skintown

Work that out  

[BallyhaiseMan]

Townies beat Cuckoos
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem
Crowes beat the Halt
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh
Rorys beat Scrabby
Keoganville beat Skintown

Work that out  

Townies beat Cuckoos                               Gaels  Cuchullains
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem                       Mullahoran beat Castlerahan
Crowes beat the Halt                                 Lacken Drumalee
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies             Killygarry Ballyhaise
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh             Lavey Ballinagh
Rorys beat Scrabby                                       Belturbet Gowna
Keoganville beat Skintown                              Denn beat Crosserlough

[boojangles]

Not ringing Brennan is exactly the same as what he did to Gaynor too.

Myles your wrong there-Gaynor was asked back in to the panel,was back in for a few weeks and then Gaynor didnt show up for a challenege match against Fermanagh because he went on the piss for his Birthday-around 29th of December.Thats a fact.Im friends with Anthony and Id love to see him back in but I dont think he has an interest once Keoghan is involved.

The club scene seems to be as bad round the County,nobody seems to b giving a shit about the League.everybody is on between 2 and 6 points in Division 1.We got bet by Lacken 1-9 to 0-6.The game was probably as bad as what we witnessed in the 2nd half in Mullingar yesterday,No Bite.

[shotstopper1]

Castlerahan    0-7  Mullahoran   0-12
Gowna    0-6  Belturbet    0-9
Cavan Gaels  1-8 Cuchullains 0-7
Lavey     1-16 Ballinagh  0-16
Killygarry     2-11  Ballyhaise  1-8
Crosserlough  2-5   Denn        2-6
Lacken     1 -9  Drumalee   0-6


Drumlane    0-9     Drumgoon  1-7
Killeshandra    0-9     Drung        0-5
Bailieboro   1-5      Cootehill     0-7
Killinkere    0-9     Redhills     2-9
Shercock   1-8      Knockbride 0-10
Ramor Utd   2-7      Ballymachugh   0-10
Cavan Gaels 1-7     Kingscourt   0-13


Cornafean    0-9   Kildallan  1-6
Shannon Gaels  2-10    Arva  0-7       
Mountnugent    2-12   Swanlinbar 0-6
Kill   3-7         Corlough  1-7
Laragh Utd.   1-5    Muntirconnacht   0-8
Crosserlough  3-17  Maghera   0-5
Templeport    v Bultersbridge abandoned in second half due to adverse weather conditions

[shotstopper1]

Div 1               
      PL   W   D   L   Pts
Cavan Gaels   4   3   0   1   6
Lacken      4   3   0   1   6
Mullahoran      4   3   0   1   6
Cuchullains      4   3   0   1   6
Lavey      4   2   1   1   5
Crosserlough  4   2   0   2   4
Drumalee      4   2   0   2   4
Denn      3   1   1   1   3
Killygarry      3   1   0   2   2
Belturbet      3   1   0   2   2
Ballinagh      4   1   0   3   2
Ballyhaise      4   1   0   3   2
Castlerahan      3   1   0   2   2
Gowna      4   1   0   3   2
               
Div 2               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Killeshandra   4   4   0   0   8
Ramor Utd   3   3   0   0   6
Redhills   4   3   0   1   6
Bailieboro   4   2   0   2   4
Drumgoon   3   2   0   1   4
Knockbride   3   1   1   1   3
Killinkere   4   1   1   2   3
Kingscourt   3   1   1   1   3
Cavan G     3   1   0   2   2
Cootehill   3   1   0   2   2
Ballymac   4   1   0   3   2
Shercock   3   1   0   2   2
Drung   2   0   1   1   1
Drumlane   3   0   0   3   0
               
Div 3               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Corlough   4   3   0   1   6
Kildallan   3   3   0   0   6
Crosserl   3   2   0   1   4
Kill   2   2   0   0   4
M Connacht   3   1   2   0   4
Mtnugent   4   1   1   2   3
Shannon G   4   1   1   2   3
Laragh Utd   3   1   1   1   3
Swanlinbar   4   1   1   2   3
Bbridge   2   1   0   1   2
Arva   3   1   0   2   2
Templeport   1   0   1   0   1
Cornafean   4   0   1   3   1
Maghera   3   0   1   2   1
               

[BallyhaiseMan]

lads read this on the Hoganstand messageboard

countrytool
County: Cavan
Posts: 2

4177  I have heard that Barry Watters has Gilmores Groin and has to have an operation. The specialist told him that it is from overuse. Everybody in the county could see this coming, but do you think management cares, no way. I think it is an absolute disgrace that this young lad has now this injury and also a torn musle in his groin. Cavan County Board & Management should be ashamed of themselves for, which could, destroy a very talented player. Players like this sholud be looked after and treated with care and respect. His Club must also be outraged, as they will loose this player probably for the rest of the year. There should be some sort of compensation for the club. DCU will also suffer as they have him on a Scholarship. I cant see them being too happy as they are paying his fees and might not be able to play for them next year. Keogan, Selectors & County Board you have alot to answer for and you are going the right way to alienating yourselves from clubs  

Big blow for Drung's junior championship hopes if true.

The question fo burnout comes up again,
Perhaps it could be improved by not letting under 21's play or train for the County seniors in the league and let them concentrate on the under 21 championship until its over.
anyone other solutions?

[cavanmaniac]

It's a question of adopting the longer term view ahead of the quick-buck approach. Can you imagine if Cavan had won the All-Ireland minor like Roscomon did, half the team would be playing senior already and well on their way to burn out some of them.

Cavan's problem is that we're so poor we need to promote guys quickly, without realising we're contributing to a vicious circle by doing so and actually being counter-productive. Some day, somehow, somebody at the helm with see the bigger picture and put sensible structures in place with a target of three or four years down the road in mind, instead of trying clowning about heaping too much traning and expectation on young lads.

On the manager thing, Joe Kernan isn't going to manage outside Armagh so we can forget him. BH man mentioned Charlie Mulgrew who is one I forgot, I'd definitely have him on any shortlist.

But who's to say our super county board will even show Keogan the door after our two championship defeats this summer?

[cornafean]

anyone other solutions?

Abandon U21 altogether? Or adopt Donal McAnallen's recommendations in the Sindo yesterday...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/tough-decisions-needed-as-gaa-at-crossroads-1339768.html

QUOTE:
1 Limit training

The amount of training done by county teams is the biggest strain on the GAA's amateur status. For people who work by day, they are asked to train too much -- and their bodies and time are overburdened. The GPA decries "the plight of inter-county players". Yet it never calls for less training, as it needs a "plight" to justify monetary demands.

The ban on "full-time training" in Rule 11 should be defined: for example, to read, "Full-time training is prohibited, according to limits set by Central Council." Then set a rate of, say, no more than two/three collective sessions (including team meetings) per week. Players could also train with clubs or individually.

There is a clear precedent. In 1954, the amateur status was first put into rule to stop teams holding full-time training camps for weeks before big finals. Teams on such camps were often paid for time off work ("broken-time payment") and even more. In 1953 Kerry allegedly spent £18 a week per player on training camps. Congress' decision to ban full-time training was brave. Sceptics said it couldn't work, or that it would lower the standard of play and the crowds would stop watching. How wrong they were. The amateur status was copperfastened from then until recently.

2 Prioritise Player Health

A government taskforce advised the GAA to screen all inter-county players for heart defects, as a duty of care. Only a couple of hundred are being screened, and very slowly.

The GAA could have its own mobile screening unit on the road, screening all county players and ordinary members, and partly funded by heart charities, commercial sponsors and the Department of Health. Such mobile units operate in Britain and America. The costs of defibrillators to clubs can also be defrayed.

Insurance cover should be enhanced; for example, for players who need regular physiotherapy or osteopathic treatment.
END QUOTE

[Davitt Man]

Cornafean, how did ye get on against Kildallon? What was there line up??

[mylestheslasher]

Not ringing Brennan is exactly the same as what he did to Gaynor too.

Myles your wrong there-Gaynor was asked back in to the panel,was back in for a few weeks and then Gaynor didnt show up for a challenege match against Fermanagh because he went on the piss for his Birthday-around 29th of December.Thats a fact.Im friends with Anthony and Id love to see him back in but I dont think he has an interest once Keoghan is involved.

The club scene seems to be as bad round the County,nobody seems to b giving a shit about the League.everybody is on between 2 and 6 points in Division 1.We got bet by Lacken 1-9 to 0-6.The game was probably as bad as what we witnessed in the 2nd half in Mullingar yesterday,No Bite.

Maybe so, I was just repeating what some of the Ballinagh lads told me. Anyway, since when did going on the piss mean being kicked of the panel? Maybe he just didn't go to the imperial. Point is you need to work with guys like Gaynor, who in my opinion could be the back bone of Cavan teams of the future.

[cornafean]

Cornafean, how did ye get on against Kildallon?

Drew 0-9 (us) to 1-6 (them). According to accounts, we threw it away.

What was there line up??

Wasn't there myself so can't help you there.

[CC1]

Good win for ourselves (Shercock) against near neighbours Knockbride and it could have been by much much more (1 missed penalty and 1 on 1 goal chance along with a host of missed chances for points). Very important to get those two points as we were starting to look a bit lonesome down at the bottom of div 2.

We are now starting to get a few players back from injury (we had 12 out injured against Ramor) and this victory will be a huge morale booster. We still have Mickey Reilly to come back from suspension along with Shane McPhillips, Brian Hamilton, Eddie and John McDermott. The two week break will suit us down to the ground and hopefully then we can play to our full potential.

For now, sickening the boggers of Knockbride will have to do!!  

[boojangles]

Scrapping the Under 21 Championship is not the answer-If this Championship was run at the right time of the year in Cavan it would b a step in the right direction.How can we pick a County Under21 team properly when the championship is played in Autumn and Winter and the Ulster Champioship starts the previous March.Alot of lads playing in the club Under 21 championship in Cavan are overage to represent the County.
When we last won Ulster in 97,that whole panel bar 5 or 6 had won an Ulster Under 21 medal in 88 or 96 and had played in an All-Ireland Final at that level.Success breeds success.
The Clubs in Cavan have a lot of the blame to take for the lack of success in Ulster.Most clubs in Cavan dont really want to improve themselves.They are only interested in winning things and it dosent matter at what level.Most clubs in Cavan would prefer to go down a Division at underage level if it means they'd win something.
I was at the Bord Peil na nOg AGM in the Meadow View this year and all I could hear was most delegates looking to get down a Division.The aim of every club should b to b playing in Division 1.My own club were playing in Division 2 last year but we'v been moved up to Division 1 which I was delighted about.Shercock a Junior club were moved up with us and they expressed how great it was to see a Junior club playing Division 1 football at U-14 level.Young lads playing at the highest level is only going to improve them as footballers.
Mullahoran are 1 of the biggest clubs in the county but I remember them about 10 years ago getting down to Division 2 at U-14 level when it was obvious to all that they were the 2nd best team in the county bar Cavan Gaels.Sure enough they won Division 2 that year beating ourselves in the final.
I know that lately alot of good work is being done in most clubs as regards coaching but we really have to put more of an effort in to improve the basic skills of all footballers at Underage.How many great young footballers do we see round Under-12 and U-14 that can dominate games because of their physical size but come Under16 and Minor they are only average because they havent been coached properly on their weaknesses.
Its easy talking here on a discussions board about what should be done.Judging by most peoples views on Gaelic football on this board we all mostly know our football.So why not transfer some of that knowledge to the Youth teams in your club.Cavan Gaels are a shining example.Ask every player who has won a championship with the Gaels in the last 10 years,wher they learned how to play football.The answer will b the same from them all-JJ Reilly,John Fee RIP,Finian Farrell,Paddy Reilly and probably 10 other names I have forgotten in Terry Coyle park on a Saturday morning.Like them or hate them you have to admire them.Cavan Gaels have put in tireless work at Underage level over the last 20 years and look where its got them.

[BallyhaiseMan]

Mullahoran are 1 of the biggest clubs in the county but I remember them about 10 years ago getting down to Division 2 at U-14 level when it was obvious to all that they were the 2nd best team in the county bar Cavan Gaels.Sure enough they won Division 2 that year beating ourselves in the final.

ye beat us in the semi final that year yas c**nts  , but we won the championship 

That Mullahoran team was men against boys,

Gerard Reily was a collosus at midfield already 6ft tall,

James Briody CHB

The best of the lot, Wee Oliver Galligan at Centre Half Forward, The boy was like lightening.

and Big Donoghue at Full Forward about 6ft and 14 stone aged 14 an absolute tank.

None of us stood a chance in Division 2.

although the Gaels tanked that Mullahoran team in the division One championship that year.

[cavan4sam]

Lads i see there is a possibility that round 5 of the league might be played this weekend for teams that have county players, This came through from the county board

From the CB:

The clubs that will be involved with the county team for the NFL match against Roscommon are: Drung, Drumgoon, Ballinagh, Cavan Gaels, Mullahoran, Crosserlough, Gowna, Swanlinbar, Castlerahan, Belturbet, Butlersbridge, Redhills, Cootehill and Killygarry. Due to their involvement with the county team their club matches for round 5 can be played on this coming Sunday if their opponents are agreeable to bringing the fixture forward. If clubs are not agreeable it will go down as a postponed fixture which will be played on a Wednesday evening.

The A.C.F.L. Division 4 to 6 Round 5 which was due to take place on this weekend (19th/20th) also has been postponed due to the county fixture.

Thanking you in advance.
Is mise le meas

Fixtures:
Friday, 11th April 2008 @ 7pm
National Irish Bank A.C.F.L. Division 5 Round 2
Killinkere v Knockbride
Referee: Margaret Farrelly

Friday, 11th April 2008 @ 7pm
A.C.F.L. Division 6 Round 2
Butlersbridge v Arva
Referee: Gavin Smith

Saturday, 12th April 2008 @ 6pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 4 Round 2
Gowna v Ballinagh
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Lacken v Killygarry (Game at 2pm)
Referee: Noel Mooney
Kingscourt v Denn
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Castlerhan v Belturbet
Referee: Jim Hyland

Saturday, 12th April 2008 @ 6pm
National Irish Bank A.C.F.L. Division 5 Round 2
Bailieboro v Kildallon (Game at 2pm)
Referee: T P Gray
Lavey v Drung
Referee: Ronan Bannon
Ballyhaise v Cootehill
Referee: Daniel Luby
Laragh v Redhills
Referee: Kieran McCarville
Ramor v Shercock
Referee: Patrick Brady

Saturday, 12th April 2008 @ 6pm
A.C.F.L. Division 6 Round 2
Killinkere v Swanlinbar
Referee: Jim Giblin
Templeport v Killygarry
Referee: John Cassidy
Shannon Gaels v Ballymachugh
Referee: Harry Conaty
Mountnugent v Kill
Referee: Felim O Reilly
Killeshandra v Muntirconnacht
Referee: John Pat Martin
Cornafean v Maghera
Referee: Chris McCaffrey

Saturday, 19th April 2008 @ 7pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5
Belturbet v Cavan Gaels (Game 4.30pm)
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Ballinagh v Killygarry
Referee: Gavin Smith
Cuchullains v Lavey
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Ballyhaise v Crosserlough (Game 4.30pm)
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken
Mullahoran v Gowna
Referee: Donal Reilly
Denn v Lacken
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Drumalee v Castlerahan
Referee: Gerry Sheridan

Saturday, 19th April 2008 @ 7pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Drumgoon v Killeshandra
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Drung v Bailieboro
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Cootehill v Killinkere
Referee: Tony McDonald
Redhills v Ramor
Referee: Seamus O Connor
Kingscourt v Drumlane
Referee: Packie Smith
Ballymachugh v Shercock
Referee: Jim Hyland
Knockbride v Cavan Gaels
Referee: MG Brady

Saturday, 19th April 2008 @ 7pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Swanlinbar v Cornafean
Referee: Harry Conaty
Corlough v Laragh
Referee: Ronan Bannon
Munterconnacht v Templeport
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Maghera v Shannon Gaels
Referee: Raymond Kelly
Kildallon v Kill
Referee: Margaret Farrelly
Arva v Mountnugent
Referee: Patrick Brady
Butlersbridge v Crosserlough
Referee: Donal Reilly