Official Cavan GAA Thread

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rodney trotter

Mickey Harte was good friends with the Louth chairman Peter Fitzpatrick and has relations living in Louth, He probaly felt he had a point to prove after way it ended in Tyrone and given his age, one last go at Inter County. He has done well with a dogged defensive system getting up a few Divisions ,but then went all out in the Leinster final against Dublin and taken apart.

Cavan19

Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!

5times5times

Quote from: rodney trotter on August 02, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Mickey Harte was good friends with the Louth chairman Peter Fitzpatrick and has relations living in Louth, He probaly felt he had a point to prove after way it ended in Tyrone and given his age, one last go at Inter County. He has done well with a dogged defensive system getting up a few Divisions ,but then went all out in the Leinster final against Dublin and taken apart.

And a truck load of cash coming from statSports & other income streams.. Love of Louth me ar$e

Look-Up!

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Quote from: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
No manager will do anything for free. When you take in expenses for doctors, physios, all the additional analysts and extras that come with a proper professional setup, even mileage for players and basic nutrition, what the manager himself pockets is only a fraction. More important staying higher up the leagues and getting paying customers in the door than saving on pennies on a manager.

We have a decent squad, some decent young players and more knocking on the door. We are a football county. Competing in D2 would be seen by many as a minimum for us, deluded or not, and the Cavan job should be tempting enough for someone with ambition or someone with experience elsewhere who feel they have "something to prove". How tempting depends on the offer on the table of course. No money means no extras means less professional support means less enthusiastic players means no thanks. A clued up manager will sniff a pile of dung from a mile away.

rodney trotter

Quote from: 5times5times on August 03, 2023, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 02, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Mickey Harte was good friends with the Louth chairman Peter Fitzpatrick and has relations living in Louth, He probaly felt he had a point to prove after way it ended in Tyrone and given his age, one last go at Inter County. He has done well with a dogged defensive system getting up a few Divisions ,but then went all out in the Leinster final against Dublin and taken apart.

And a truck load of cash coming from statSports & other income streams.. Love of Louth me ar$e

Didn't say he was doing it for nothing. Louth have had no underage success and were in Division 4. He could have held out for other jobs.

Cavan19

Quote from: Look-Up! on August 03, 2023, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
No manager will do anything for free. When you take in expenses for doctors, physios, all the additional analysts and extras that come with a proper professional setup, even mileage for players and basic nutrition, what the manager himself pockets is only a fraction. More important staying higher up the leagues and getting paying customers in the door than saving on pennies on a manager.

We have a decent squad, some decent young players and more knocking on the door. We are a football county. Competing in D2 would be seen by many as a minimum for us, deluded or not, and the Cavan job should be tempting enough for someone with ambition or someone with experience elsewhere who feel they have "something to prove". How tempting depends on the offer on the table of course. No money means no extras means less professional support means less enthusiastic players means no thanks. A clued up manager will sniff a pile of dung from a mile away.

A manger doesn't care who pays all that as long as he gets his wedge.

Look-Up!

Quote from: Cavan19 on August 04, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 03, 2023, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
No manager will do anything for free. When you take in expenses for doctors, physios, all the additional analysts and extras that come with a proper professional setup, even mileage for players and basic nutrition, what the manager himself pockets is only a fraction. More important staying higher up the leagues and getting paying customers in the door than saving on pennies on a manager.

We have a decent squad, some decent young players and more knocking on the door. We are a football county. Competing in D2 would be seen by many as a minimum for us, deluded or not, and the Cavan job should be tempting enough for someone with ambition or someone with experience elsewhere who feel they have "something to prove". How tempting depends on the offer on the table of course. No money means no extras means less professional support means less enthusiastic players means no thanks. A clued up manager will sniff a pile of dung from a mile away.

A manger doesn't care who pays all that as long as he gets his wedge.
A good manager will want a professional setup and see a CB with vision, ambition and the financial means to put it in action. They are putting their professional reputation on the line.

Of course there are other managers who just want the gig and see how long they can milk the IC circuit till they return to the club scene but they are the ones we need to avoid. A good manager will improve the finances of a CB if they can get up the leagues and get some big teams into Breffni. With the group stages of AI championship there are more opportunities for bigger championship matches in Breffni, but attendances will depend on firstly, getting into AI stage, and secondly actually being competitive against bigger counties and maybe having a realistic chance at winning a couple of matches and making a QF. To do all that will not be achieved from counting the coppers from the penny jar. And the "wedge" the manager gets will only be a fraction. So why skimp on such a crucial position that ties everything together when the outlays elsewhere are so high anyway.

cavanmaniac

Raymond Galligan is the new senior team manager.


Discuss.

Itchy

Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 23, 2023, 09:13:08 PM
Raymond Galligan is the new senior team manager.


Discuss.

Good luck to him and the backroom team.

mrdeeds

It's hard to know how he'll do but first impressions are good as he's put some impressive team together.

Look-Up!

Far from many people's first choice, including my own, but if he gets the results people will come round fairly quickly.

Sometimes appointments with all the razzmatazz fall flat and sometimes leaps of faith reap dividends. Time will tell. Good luck to him.

cavanmaniac

A bit of a leap of faith is a good way to look at it. Some interesting backroom names there, hopefully they're on the ticket for the longer term and not just intercounty tourists.

Raymond has a big job ahead of him with very little experience but the people around him should help there. You couldn't be overly confident but of course we wish him the best of luck. As the fella says, a few decent early league results would get people onside and build momentum.

marty34

He'll have to be ruthless with a lot of the lads he played with.

He's soldiered with a lot of them.

Positive thing is he knows them and has a great knowledge of the modern game and training etc.

Was there many other options available to Cavan?

rodney trotter

Jason Reilly and Michael McDermott were the other candidates from Cavan. McDermott pulled out early in the week.
Raymond Galligan has a good backroom team which probably swayed it.


Dreadnought

Quite a strong team he has put together. It's a bit of a punt, but he has surrounded himself with strong people which can cover up for gaps he know he can't cover. I'm intrigued anyway. The way the game has gone last few years, we may well find that a recent player might very well be at the forefront and knows what is needed to innovate, and can read the game properly. The simply facts are that we did not have a glut of applications. No one with prior inter county experience applied, and while Jayo was the better standalone manager, the backroom teams are a big deal and this likely got him over the line.

Lot of work ahead of him. He already was a Senior voce in the dressing room, now it needs to be that but from a different place. Hope Thomas Galligan gets tempted back under his clubmate, James Smith too, and some others who don't commit might come in. The supposed issues between Crosserlough and Gowna players needs to be sorted as this is a problem. He needs to be changing that team up, integrating youth and players who can come in and do a job. Might see a few retire unless he gets them to help a year or two to transition during this 3 year spell. All the best to him. It's different, so hope it works. I'll be supporting him from the start anyway and hope he sees what is needed and gets us going again.