Official Cavan GAA Thread

Started by BallyhaiseMan, November 10, 2006, 01:47:12 PM

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mylestheslasher

Sure wasn't the sports editor of the celt once a "faceless" poster on here. If this is what occupies Val Andrews then all hope is lost.

tommysmith

If he had any brains he wouldn't be reading that site anyway, but to come out with an outburst about it makes him look a bigger clown.

As for our poster RichieJ if you were going to send in that you could have put your name to it the same as the other lad who wrote in as when val was using the term faceless thats exaclty what he was getting at.

Westside

What mystifies me is this. When did people start thinking that just because we are from Cavan and pay into games that we have a right to know the internal workings of the panel? We have lads on HS demanding to know why certain players are and are not on the panel..?!

Yes we have the right to expect that things are run correctly and vote with our feet if we don't like how things are going and we can vote on matters through our clubs. I don't see how people think Val is required to come out and explain his decisions on choice of panel, especially this early in the year. He is managing a county football team, he deserves a certain amount of independence and confidence in that role. He is not and should not be a lackey that has to run back explaining his decisions to some of the know it all supporters in Cavan.

tommysmith

Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
What mystifies me is this. When did people start thinking that just because we are from Cavan and pay into games that we have a right to know the internal workings of the panel? We have lads on HS demanding to know why certain players are and are not on the panel..?!

Yes we have the right to expect that things are run correctly and vote with our feet if we don't like how things are going and we can vote on matters through our clubs. I don't see how people think Val is required to come out and explain his decisions on choice of panel, especially this early in the year. He is managing a county football team, he deserves a certain amount of independence and confidence in that role. He is not and should not be a lackey that has to run back explaining his decisions to some of the know it all supporters in Cavan.

Very good point.  It's November and lads are crying because they dont know who is on the panel.

tomsmith

Well why doesn't Val explain to the players he left off how that at 26/27 they could be too old. And what would be the point in bringing these players back in around march time with any strength and conditioning work done. Is it not normal to have a big panel now and trim it in spring. Or are Cavan different? Do we increase our panel as we go along. Oh we are not scoring let's bring Johnston back mid way through the league. Would he come back? Would he be missed if he didn't?

tomsmith

Low them or hate them but there is one club in the county 10 times better than any of the rest on their day. If right was right Meehan e Reilly Maloney Derham would be the half back line on the county team. S Reilly would be at midfield. Johnstone , Murray and smith in the forwards. That's 7 players that should be on the county team.

rodney trotter

Sean Reilly is a very average player, he makes the odd good catch but on the ball he is nothing special.. Givney and Mckiernan are the two best options at midfield, Eugene Keating can play there aswell. Murray Smith Maloney and Meehan are all on the panel so i don't know what your on about tom. Besides Sean Reilly refused to go into the panel in the past as did Eamon Reilly so fck them.

tommysmith

Has Val actually told members of last years panel that they are dropped because they are to old ?

I dont see how he can when there are lads in their 30's still there.

Westside

I think Val trimming the panel is also based on attitude. It brings a team a long long way in county football. Perhaps any older heads in there are the ones that are reliable and really do bust a gut. Lads like Brennan. A poster on the HS spoke at length about how our U21s will be tainted by the attitude revolving around our panel in recent years and he had a point. Perhaps Val is keeping some older heads just to keep a small base of experience and hope the U21 mentality will prevail... (although that wouldn't explain the absence of McCutcheon..)

Anyone on twitter follow any of the players?? Hannon telling O'Dowd that playing corner back is the quickest way to IC retirement.. Seems O'Dowd isn't that happy playing in the corner, although he didn't say that outright.

boojangles

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Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
I think Val trimming the panel is also based on attitude. It brings a team a long long way in county football. Perhaps any older heads in there are the ones that are reliable and really do bust a gut. Lads like Brennan. A poster on the HS spoke at length about how our U21s will be tainted by the attitude revolving around our panel in recent years and he had a point. Perhaps Val is keeping some older heads just to keep a small base of experience and hope the U21 mentality will prevail... (although that wouldn't explain the absence of McCutcheon..)

Anyone on twitter follow any of the players?? Hannon telling O'Dowd that playing corner back is the quickest way to IC retirement.. Seems O'Dowd isn't that happy playing in the corner, although he
didn't say that outright.

As far as I know Mc Cutcheon is still on the panel. He has been struggling with injury lately. Hannon is probably right. Corner back Is a specialised position where we need  dirty f***ers who have damn all interest in playing football ala Ryan Mc Menamin.

Westside

Oh right. I know nothing of the panel other that rumours, read that on the HS I should have known better. Good to hear it he's a decent player. Our best player v Donegal and did well against Longford before coming off..
O'Dowd isn't a corner back.. But who on the Cavan panel is? Perhaps Minagh.. Tighe wasn't great in the U-21 campaign and looked better last year. Who else can you conceivably stick in there?
Conor Smith from Killeshandra should be groomed for the position! A great lad.

rodney trotter

I would use twitter but following Cavan players wouldn't be how i would follow, hear enough about them on here  :)

mylestheslasher

Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
Oh right. I know nothing of the panel other that rumours, read that on the HS I should have known better. Good to hear it he's a decent player. Our best player v Donegal and did well against Longford before coming off..
O'Dowd isn't a corner back.. But who on the Cavan panel is? Perhaps Minagh.. Tighe wasn't great in the U-21 campaign and looked better last year. Who else can you conceivably stick in there?
Conor Smith from Killeshandra should be groomed for the position! A great lad.

Darragh tighe had a injury problem last year which probably affected his performances. His size could be his biggest problem but he is a natural corner back.


Westside

I thought he looked very good in 2010.. Notably our best in the Ulster Final against Donegal that year but got roasted badly in the Ulster and AI Finals this year. It looks like he could be put in there for us this year, hopefully he can grow into the role.

tommysmith

Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
I think Val trimming the panel is also based on attitude. It brings a team a long long way in county football. Perhaps any older heads in there are the ones that are reliable and really do bust a gut. Lads like Brennan.

I actually would agree with that if trouble makers and boozers were weeded out and a few older lads who show a good example are kept.

Last year was a disgrace with a lad leaving the panel to drink on rag week being brought back and drinking two weeks before the Donegal game and still getting playing. It no wonder the U21's were may have been unhappy.