Official Cavan GAA Thread

[rodney trotter]

It might give johnston a give up the ass and get back playing well again,. he will be on the panel by the middle of the league if he is actually dropped..

[mylestheslasher]

Heard through the grapevine that Seanie Johnston won't be playing county football next year. Too old at 26/27!! Apparently Val is going with youth and lads playing college football. Could mean a very different panel than last year.

Is that Val saying he is to old or is it Johnston himself. He probably couldn't be arsed playing anyway and he would have been better off no where near it last year.

Roscommon did similar a few years ago and have had success since but getting to a Connaught final and winning it is a hell of a lot easier than Ulster.

I seen him a few times last year and he just looked totally not interested. Its not fitness or age is his problem but his head. Maybe he just needs a break. Everyone thinks he will win games on his own so the pressure is high and maybe he started to believe some of the hype too. One thing for sure, worst decision this management ever did was making him captain. Let him take 12 months off, go see the world and maybe then he might get some hunger to play.

[BigMac]

Lyng got the same call as well. Too old at 26.

[Westside]

Mickey Brennan is still playing at 30 something though?

[rodney trotter]

At least with johnston he was always there a lot of the time anyway.. Lyng left the panel before the championship when Keoghan was manager and did it when Carr was manager, good player but he seemed like a player that just felt like being there he could be called a county player.. Better off with players who want to play even if they are less limited than having players on the panel for the sake of it..

[mylestheslasher]

Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

[boojangles]

Lyng got the same call as well. Too old at 26.

It's not that they are too old. Obviously going with a 'new approach'. Whether it works out remains to be seen. Val will have a hell of a lot of explaining to do if it backfires, that is for sure.

Johnston and Lyng aren't the only 2 cut. That will come out in the next few days.

I'm not saying I agree with this decision but I do hope this makes Sean and Mickey better footballers. What doesn't kill you can only make you stronger.
And I hope I see them in a Cavan jersey again, firing on all cylinders.

[tommysmith]

Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

[boojangles]

Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

[tommysmith]

Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

Mickey is older and is still there.  If others are not called in cos of age why is he?

[boojangles]

Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

Mickey is older and is still there.  If others are not called in cos of age why is he?

Who said that they were not called in because of age?

[tommysmith]

Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

Mickey is older and is still there.  If others are not called in cos of age why is he?

Who said that they were not called in because of age?

Bigmac 

[Ollie]

Come the start of the League both Johnston and Lyng will be on the panel. A couple of months away from football is what they both need.

Although I thought Lyng played well for the Gaels last weekend when he was positioned centre half forward.

[BigMac]

What I heard was that Val rang both Jelly and Lyng and told them they weren't being called into the panel this year as he was going with youth and lads that were playing college football. He probably didn't say "you're too old", but he might as well have. If that is the case, you wouldn't expect to see McKeever, Podge, Martin Cahill, Mickey Brennan, Keith Fannon, etc etc in there.

[Westside]

I wouldn't be at all bothered about Lyng not being called in. He's walked out too many times for anyone to think that he really cares about the County, he was dire in the Championship last year and seems to be still living off his youthful potential.

Johnston is a different matter. A lot of people have claimed that he is a bad influence on the team because there will be a "just give it to Seanie" mentality. He's certainly no captain and his petulance on the field is frustrating.
But in fairness to him he has delivered for Cavan like no other player of his generation has. Apart from the America thing he has always been willing to play for Cavan when fit. There's no questioning that he is a terrific corner forward when on form.
If what BigMac says is true and Val wants to give youth a chance you'd have to assume he means the likes of McClarey, Declan McKiernan, Bud Fitz, Niall McDermott, Jack Brady. Do any of these lads have the potential to be as good as we know Johnston can be? I don't think so. I'd have him there and not play him because he was class in 2008, play him if he's one of the best 3 corner forwards at training.

Does anyone know people involved that could give an idea of the 20 odd players involved at this stage?