Brexit.

[screenexile]

Looking at it seriously this evening there has to be a deal.

The fishing thing is small fry and the UK don't have enough boats to fish all their waters and also don't have the market to sell their catches given the tariffs that will be imposed.

The EU want to impose tariffs if the UK diverge from them in law or standards around certain business areas in the future.

If the UK don't sign up to this then the tariffs will be imposed from now so what are they playing at??

Am I missing something? Is he just making it look like he negotiated hard to keep the nutters happy??

[Main Street]

The Brits can't be trusted to follow procedures/protocols re a trade agreement that gives them free  access to the EU market.They take offence that the EU know that they're shifty feckers and take exception to the protection measures that the EU have in place to make sure that the Brits follow the terms of the treaty. The National Tory party are waving the sovereignity flag.

[Farrandeelin]

If there's no trade deal, does the Internal Market Bill activate? Or have the Brits totally backed down on that?

[johnnycool]

If there's no trade deal, does the Internal Market Bill activate? Or have the Brits totally backed down on that?

The withdrawal agreement still stands IIRC and with Uncle Joe getting comfy in the White House they might not want to piss off him by doing anything silly in Ireland.

[screenexile]

If there's no trade deal, does the Internal Market Bill activate? Or have the Brits totally backed down on that?

They have the IMB was separate from the actual trade talks between Barnier and Frost and was about the NI Protocol which Gove has worked out with the EU in a joint committee so they've removed the offending bits of the IMB and the Tax Bill.

We still don't know the detail of what the Joint Committee has agreed for the North and probably won't until Monday.

[Rossfan]

The Brits can't be trusted to follow procedures/protocols re a trade agreement that gives them free  access to the EU market.They take offence that the EU know that they're shifty feckers .

Indeed. The EU know they're dealing with cnuts who've spent 800 years breaking treaties and welshing on their agreed deals.

[seafoid]

   https://www.ft.com/content/c112b53b-9dc7-462d-b50a-523ce1d42b23

   Brussels unveils emergency plans to prevent chaos in case of no deal Brexit
Temporary measures cover airlines, hauliers and fishing rights if trade talks fail

The air transport proposal would allow UK carriers to continue existing passenger and cargo services between the UK and EU for six months, but has to be reciprocated by the UK to be effective e
Jim Brunsden in Brussels AN HOUR AGO

Brussels has published emergency plans to keep planes flying, trucks moving and prevent other chaos in the event that trade talks with Britain fail, as it warned of "significant uncertainty" around the fate of the Brexit negotiations. 

The European Commission adopted the proposals on Thursday, temporarily ensuring that airlines could continue to fly their normal routes between the EU and UK and that hauliers could continue to cross the English Channel after Britain leaves the single market on January 1.

Brussels is also proposing that the EU and UK could ensure fishermen have a grace period to continue being able to access each other's waters. 

[maddog]

   https://www.ft.com/content/c112b53b-9dc7-462d-b50a-523ce1d42b23

   Brussels unveils emergency plans to prevent chaos in case of no deal Brexit
Temporary measures cover airlines, hauliers and fishing rights if trade talks fail

The air transport proposal would allow UK carriers to continue existing passenger and cargo services between the UK and EU for six months, but has to be reciprocated by the UK to be effective e
Jim Brunsden in Brussels AN HOUR AGO

Brussels has published emergency plans to keep planes flying, trucks moving and prevent other chaos in the event that trade talks with Britain fail, as it warned of "significant uncertainty" around the fate of the Brexit negotiations.

The European Commission adopted the proposals on Thursday, temporarily ensuring that airlines could continue to fly their normal routes between the EU and UK and that hauliers could continue to cross the English Channel after Britain leaves the single market on January 1.

Brussels is also proposing that the EU and UK could ensure fishermen have a grace period to continue being able to access each other's waters.

So an extension basically ? But don't call it that.

[armaghniac]

So an extension basically ? But don't call it that.

I think we are into extension territory at this stage, carefully avoiding calling it that. The NI protocol deal is largely an extension for 6 months.
It is ridiculous that they didn't extend when the Covid became the dominant issue.

[Rossfan]

Brits wont be poisoning ye 6 Co folks

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2020/1210/1183685-uk-eu-declarations/

[bennydorano]

From a real honest to God UK KP. Imran A Khan.

I stand with millions of Britons that are deeply insulted at the shocking news that the German Chancellor has refused the British Prime Minister's request for a telephone call. This is an insult to every Briton, whether they support our PM or not.

2
The EU's contemptuous treatment of the UK makes it clear there cannot be a deal until it accepts the UK as a sovereign equal and awards us the respect and regard we merit.

3
Have our EU "friends" no regard or respect for the UK and our nations' sacrifices that permit them to live in freedom and prosperity today, safely away from the shadow of totalitarianism?

Dog whistling horseshite. I'm getting angrier as this car crash hurtles of the cliff.

[sid waddell]

The Brexiteers don't understand the concept of sovereignty

They're engaging in Empire cosplay

In the Brexiteer idea of sovereignty, only Britain can be sovereign

[Dougal Maguire]

I'd say 6 months or so of no deal mayhem will soon bring them back to the negotiating table and they'll be a lot easier talked to then.

[sid waddell]

I'd say 6 months or so of no deal mayhem will soon bring them back to the negotiating table and they'll be a lot easier talked to then.

Do not bank on that

Nationalism is a very dangerous force and causes people to totally lose their senses

Only the tribe matters, reason becomes the enemy

Applies in Ireland just as much as in Britain

[seafoid]

I'd say 6 months or so of no deal mayhem will soon bring them back to the negotiating table and they'll be a lot easier talked to then.

Do not bank on that

Nationalism is a very dangerous force and causes people to totally lose their senses

Only the tribe matters, reason becomes the enemy

Applies in Ireland just as much as in Britain

Nobody voted for No Deal
The UK will be very unstable going forward