Brexit.

[GJL]

Sammy Wilson and DUP now in full retreat.
Brexit: DUP could back deal with time-limited backstop https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-47402593

Is the backstop not time limited as it stands?
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No not time limited. As far as I know it is in place until an acceptable alternative is available. Something like technological border control or some fairy tale unicorn stuff like that.


It also has to be agreed by both sides before the backstop can be done away with so in other words Europe has control. That is what is driving them-uns nuts.

[johnnycool]

The DUP will be steadfast in standing their ground much akin to Nero when Rome was burning.
Paddy Kielty is entirely right that the DUP's best chance to save face is a second referendum but they won't say as much.

a referendum will save the DUP, but it may show a much higher remain vote in NI, which would also show how representative the DUP actually are.

Aye, but the DUP would get that vote back in a themmuns vrs usuns vote at Europe/Local elections/ Stormont....

[Ronnie]

Territorial borders going to be battleground for 2019?  Kashmir, South China, Clogherhead..  Free Staters embarrassing themselves again according to court..

[OgraAnDun]

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/northern-ireland-backstop-the-troubles-theresa-may-brexit-european-union-red-lines-a8803336.html

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it might be an education for the stupid stupid English.

[Rossfan]

I doubt if the "stupid stupid English" would read newspapers.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/northern-ireland-backstop-the-troubles-theresa-may-brexit-european-union-red-lines-a8803336.html

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it might be an education for the stupid stupid English.

Good article but he runs from Hard Border to full blown war a little quickly. Who will pick up arms on the Nationalist side? I think a wide disengagement of government or civil disobedience if you like is more likely. Although some terrorist activity cannot be ruled out.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

[OgraAnDun]

I doubt if the "stupid stupid English" would read newspapers.

The 'stupid stupid English' (a quote from the article) are the people who make the decisions, so I would like to hope that they do read the papers.

[weareros]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

Saw nothing in that other than some bullshit from US Ambassador to UK and Boris, both trying to sell shite to the British people. It's not a myth that US beef has got hormones injected and the chicken is washed in Chlorine to remove bacteria.

[armaghniac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

Salmonella kills 450 people in the US, nobody died from Salmonella in the UK last year.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

Salmonella kills 450 people in the US, nobody died from Salmonella in the UK last year.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

100k cases in EU last year.

[armaghniac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

Salmonella kills 450 people in the US, nobody died from Salmonella in the UK last year.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

100k cases in EU last year.

as against 1.2 million in the US, which has  60% of population of EU.

[omaghjoe]

Seems to be a lot of work going on at the minute regarding the back stop.
Are they getting ready to water it down for the ERG who seem ready to come around to the idea of a time limit on it? Will the Irish government cave on it.... I suppose they can always use the threat of leaving the border open anyway as leverage

[seafoid]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

Salmonella kills 450 people in the US, nobody died from Salmonella in the UK last year.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

US life expectancy for men 77.3 vs EU 79.8
US life expectancy for women 81.9 vs EU 84.8

Source : Pocket World in Figures

Food quality could be part of this

[LeoMc]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138

Chlorinated chicken. I tried to make this point before, but everyone just wanted to be outraged without knowing why.

American tries to argue that American standards are acceptable!
Any chance of finding an IDF spokesman saying their response to Palestinian violence is proportionate.