Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

Started by toby47, March 14, 2019, 11:29:54 AM

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Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

Lionel Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo

Armagh18

Quote from: nrico2006 on November 04, 2023, 10:40:13 PMDefinitely deservedly 2010.
Sneijder and Xavi/Iniesta all more deserving imo

seafoid

The Ballon d'Or is like a concentrated version of the all Stars. The winners of the all Ireland get the most all stars. when the winners are confined to a very small number of teams the same people win year after year.
So 15 years or whatever of Messi and Ronaldo ignores all the other good players during that time

Armagh18

That's because they've been the best in the world for close to 15 years. Other players like R9 and Ronaldinho and even Suarez maybe hit similar heights for a season or two but no one in history has ever or will ever come close to doing it so well for so long. Ronaldos 07/08 season at United, Messi's performances against United in the champions league finals, his 91 goal year in 2012, Ronaldos stats for the 3 in a row champions league. All unbelievable. 

The way Haalands going he may eventually hit the goal records but ability wise he's miles away. The other great players get named in FIFA world XI's although they were usually named moreso on reputation than actual performance

Wildweasel74

Been the best in the world over a long period, should have no basis, on best player on a yearly basis, both players have awards which should they shouldn't got, in certain years, the make up of who selects the players is all wrong, plus a top 5 is enough to select from, as top 10 spreads votes out too much.

Armagh18

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 06, 2023, 12:28:45 PMBeen the best in the world over a long period, should have no basis, on best player on a yearly basis, both players have awards which should they shouldn't got, in certain years, the make up of who selects the players is all wrong, plus a top 5 is enough to select from, as top 10 spreads votes out too much.
Not sure any of Ronaldos could be argued against. Maybe 2013 Ribety had a case but Ronaldos stats were  miles ahead. 2010, 2019, 2021 and 2023 for Messi all abit iffy for me.

From the Bunker

Individual awards in team sports can always be controversial.

Ireland and Northern Ireland voted for Messi.

toby47

Messi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.

 

Milltown Row2

Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:34:44 AMMessi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.

 

Finally scored last night against the powerhouse Canada to get to the final...

 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

toby47

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2024, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:34:44 AMMessi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.

 

Finally scored last night against the powerhouse Canada to get to the final...

 

Have you been watching the tournament? He's been absolutely standout.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2024, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:34:44 AMMessi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.

 

Finally scored last night against the powerhouse Canada to get to the final...

 

Have you been watching the tournament? He's been absolutely standout.

No, just the reports online
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

toby47

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2024, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2024, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:34:44 AMMessi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.

 

Finally scored last night against the powerhouse Canada to get to the final...

 

Have you been watching the tournament? He's been absolutely standout.

No, just the reports online

Still running the games, only he now runs in what looks like 2nd gear, instead of 3rd.

Orior

Ronaldo would be great in the half forward line, and Messi would be a tricky wee corner forward. Also Rondaldo probably a better hurler so he gets my vote
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

lurganblue

Quote from: Orior on July 10, 2024, 12:27:10 PMRonaldo would be great in the half forward line, and Messi would be a tricky wee corner forward. Also Rondaldo probably a better hurler so he gets my vote

Messi a career like the Gooch. Went from damaging the scoreboard to dictating play on the 40. Class at both

From the Bunker

Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:34:44 AMMessi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.
 

He won a Under 20 FIFA World Youth Championship in 2005 and Olympic gold medal in 2008.


toby47

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2024, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: toby47 on July 10, 2024, 11:34:44 AMMessi's Argentina into the Copa America Final v Uruguay/Colombia late on Sunday night.


Crazy to think when Messi was 34 he had no honours with Argentina. Now at 37 he could have 1 x World cup & 2 x Copa Americas.
 

He won a Under 20 FIFA World Youth Championship in 2005 and Olympic gold medal in 2008.



Yeah, with the senior side I meant