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Why would that mean it would increase? What's a points deduction this season to last season's relegated clubs?

Because with other clubs set to sue and reopen case the punishment may increase.

here comes Mr Daily Mail ffs. If anyone is getting sued it would be the premier league, those clubs will feel the Everton decision should have happened last season or season before and gave them opportunity to stay up.

The decision from the board to penalise Everton included the wording that Everton received 'no sporting advantage' from breaking Profit and Sustainability rules therefore making any claims against Everton a non starter.

Mr Daily Mail, never been called that before.

Similarities it would seem between Cavan and Tyrone clubs.  Junior and intermediate teams would usually be among the strongest in Ulster but their seniors rarely break much delft in the Ulster Championship.  Errigal in the 90s and maybe Kingscourt before that were the only victors I can ever recall at senior level.

No Cavan team has ever won Ulster club. Don't think Kingscourt ever made a final. Bailieboro did and I think Cavan Gaels did too, both lost.

Kingscourt made two finals.

Why would that mean it would increase? What's a points deduction this season to last season's relegated clubs?

Because with other clubs set to sue and reopen case the punishment may increase.

No way this sticks on appeal.  What they'd have to do to City and Chelsea...

It might increase as the clubs relegated are now involved.

Keith Earls was excellent. And fair play to Tony Christie.

The answer to this question is always Damien Reilly for Cavan against Donegal. Look it up on YouTube.

Naomh Conaill absolutely stole that with last kick of the game. Gowna looked to have done just enough. 2 point lead always a dangerous one

Glenties poor or Gowna better than I thought initially?

Glenties were fairly poor but they nicked the win. Just far too negative. Gowna will be hurt bad by that but they threw it away at the end

Gowna will be back. A ridiculously young team. 9 or 10 starters 21 or younger.

Outstanding by Beggan at the end

Naomh Conaill 4 up at HT Vs Gowna. They have a strong blanket defence though and Gowna aren't playing well, be surprised if NC through his away now.

Level now

Ballyhaise would be very big physically and an excellent team. Have been trying to win intermediate for years in Cavan and kept losing finals.

And why would Ange tear into officials. The two players sent off should have been sent off earlier in game.

Sky Sports really, really wanted big Ange to tear into the officials.

He didn't.

The sport (and the one we have closer to home) really could do with more people like him (as well as a media that doesn't try to make a week's news out of a tackle).

Then why did he get booked?

For Counties that do not link league and championship, how do teams get relegated to a lower championship?

I can understand league positions but if 50% of your clubs get beat in the first round how do you determine which one gets replaced by the winner of the lower grade?

In Cavan there's relegation playoffs.

The same Cavan who put school amalgamations into Ulster colleges, all they're looking is the same easy road to a few wins same as their Kerry counterparts with misaligned competitions and grades

One for the wtf thread ... why was that Kerry amalgamation bs on TG4 yesterday, club champ live broadcasting should be reserved for real club teams, not divisional fakery

What school amalgamation?

Who are Arva's 2 other county players?

Tristan Noack Hoffman and Johnaton McCabe.

They'll have plenty of ex Cavan Minor & U-20/21 players too?

Yeah the Morris brothers and Bouchier. They were probably knocking about the senior panel too I think.

Who are Arva's 2 other county players?

Tristan Noack Hoffman and Johnaton McCabe.