NFL Division 1 2024

[Milltown Row2]

They killed the golden goose with too many games in too short a time. Rem 2005 Tyrone replay against Down in the Marshes great game especially if you were a Down supporter! 2003 brilliant Ulster final went to a replay, Dublin-Meath epic 4 games in '91. Penalties are an aberration on Gaelic games, apeing soccer. People went to the replays.

You know we have penalties in GAA?

I'm talking bout penalty shoot-outs, but you know that.

But its ok to 'ape' soccer in having penalties but not the shoot outs?

Not making any sense, replays are not able to fit in unless we go back to the days when you had one bite at the cherry, those days are gone now.

[Keyser soze]

Some of the best memories of playing were championship replays I was involved in, something special about them. 

[Milltown Row2]

Some of the best memories of playing were championship replays I was involved in, something special about them. 

Yes they are great, remember being manager in one game and the momentum had switched and had the game went to extra time, (clubs finals went to replay no extra time) they would have beaten us!  at club level I was involved in a third replay. I was the ref and the tension between both teams going into the game was intense, resulting in me heading to both camps during the week to 'chat' about the game, but it did end up extending the championship, meaning teams were going week on week to the final and straight in to Ulster club, no rests.

So while you're in the throws of the excitement of it, the wake of delayed games off the back of it have ripple effects further down the road

Get her

[yellowcard]

They killed the golden goose with too many games in too short a time. Rem 2005 Tyrone replay against Down in the Marshes great game especially if you were a Down supporter! 2003 brilliant Ulster final went to a replay, Dublin-Meath epic 4 games in '91. Penalties are an aberration on Gaelic games, apeing soccer. People went to the replays.

You know we have penalties in GAA?

And yellow and red cards which also came from soccer. Abolish those too and lets go back to booking players, we can't be seen to be copying the soccer.

[Truthsayer]

They killed the golden goose with too many games in too short a time. Rem 2005 Tyrone replay against Down in the Marshes great game especially if you were a Down supporter! 2003 brilliant Ulster final went to a replay, Dublin-Meath epic 4 games in '91. Penalties are an aberration on Gaelic games, apeing soccer. People went to the replays.

You know we have penalties in GAA?

And yellow and red cards which also came from soccer. Abolish those too and lets go back to booking players, we can't be seen to be copying the soccer.

Ok we'll agree to disagree. I think penalty shoot-outs are awful whatever sport. Others are ok with them. So be...

[tonto1888]

for those wanting replays - and believe me there have been times int he last 2 years I wanted replays haha - what do you do if its a draw at the end of the replay? Another one? Toss a coin?

[lurganblue]

I'd be an advocate of playing a period of extra time and then if it is a draw, restart on a golden score. I realise that this would bring issues in terms of "soft" frees and the players are completely wrecked... but I really hate penalties 

[Milltown Row2]

I'd be an advocate of playing a period of extra time and then if it is a draw, restart on a golden score. I realise that this would bring issues in terms of "soft" frees and the players are completely wrecked... but I really hate penalties 

Just give no frees during that period for 'rough play' lol!

Tech fouls like steps and so on, yes that's a blunder, but ya gotta earn that golden score!

Be like Running Man

[RedHand88]

Some of the best memories of playing were championship replays I was involved in, something special about them. 

I cant believe what I'm reading. For years people complained about replays because:
1) Expense involved for fans (grab all association!)
2) Fixture congestion (clubs not getting county players back, etc)

Now that we have a system in place that has been widely accepted across any amount of team sports for decades, people want to go back to the old way!!

[RedHand88]

They killed the golden goose with too many games in too short a time. Rem 2005 Tyrone replay against Down in the Marshes great game especially if you were a Down supporter! 2003 brilliant Ulster final went to a replay, Dublin-Meath epic 4 games in '91. Penalties are an aberration on Gaelic games, apeing soccer. People went to the replays.

The Tyrone- Armagh first game in 2005 got 60k.
The replay got 30k in a nearly two thirds empty Croke Park.
People did not go to the replays in anywhere near the same numbers.

[armaghniac]

I'd be an advocate of playing a period of extra time and then if it is a draw, restart on a golden score. I realise that this would bring issues in terms of "soft" frees and the players are completely wrecked... but I really hate penalties 

I'd be an advocate of using alphabetical order to determine who wins. -

[Rossfan]

Some of the best memories of playing were championship replays I was involved in, something special about them. 

I cant believe what I'm reading. For years people complained about replays because:
1) Expense involved for fans (grab all association!)
2) Fixture congestion (clubs not getting county players back, etc)

Now that we have a system in place that has been widely accepted across any amount of team sports for decades, people want to go back to the old way!!

+1.

[tbrick18]

Makes no difference, if its penalties or 45's or a one one one match up they'll all end up as a difficult loss.

The games have to be finished on the day/night no point dragging people half way round the country for replays anymore, the cost of that alone and within the football/hurling calendar it near impossible to find a space come championship.

Even at club level come championship in counties that have dual players it's a massive drain on players fitness and injuries

GAA has been using penalties in the game for as long as I can remember, its not like they have copied anyone in that regard, its now being used to finish the game, seen a game where it was either 45's or frees from the 21 when this all came about, they would have been there all night, in fact the game was cancelled by the chairman and replayed to much fanfare at the time.

Yeah I agree.
I personally like penalties. I've seen the Tyrone club championship won on penalties, Ulster championship and the now the Div 1 League. The drama and excitement adds to the experience in my view.
By having replays, there's additional cost to supporters and during a cost of living crisis where attendance at games is already expensive there'd be a huge outcry about the Grab All Association fleecing the regular supporter.
Also, in the past we've all seen replays that have been complete one-sided affairs after the underdog missed their opportunity the first day - which in my view is unfair on the underdog.

Using 45s is no better than penalties. I'd argue penalties are better as you're testing the skill of the keeper AND the penalty taker. It's also a test on being able to hold your nerve.

No matter what approach is taken to get a winner from a drawn game, there'll always be some people who are not happy. There doesnt seem to be any movement from Croke Park or the new President on doing away with penalties, so they are here to stay. Embrace it I say.

It's always horrible to get beat - in the old days one defeat in championship and you're gone. Then the back door came along, then super 8s, now the new setup. How many chances do teams need to win?

[thewobbler]

I know I've mentioned it before on the board, but...

Once you're able to change your mindset about drawn knockout matches away from that of "we didn't lose, so we deserve another shot", and over to "we didn't win, so don't deserve to go through", then it becomes so much easier to accept penalties. It promotes a zen like calm about results.

I doubt it'll ever happen, but if the culture of the GAA could ever be keeled in this direction, we would be a much happier tribe of people.

Repeat after me: "We did not win the match. So we do not deserve to go through".

[Taylor]

I'd be an advocate of playing a period of extra time and then if it is a draw, restart on a golden score. I realise that this would bring issues in terms of "soft" frees and the players are completely wrecked... but I really hate penalties 

Wouldnt be much fun trying to get a golden score if you are playing into a gale force wind