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#16
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 01, 2019, 12:40:12 PM
Yes Armagh missed chances and made wrong decisions. But Deegan influences the outcome of games in a way few other refs do, with the exception perhaps of Joe McQullian.

You lost the game cos Mr "everybody look at me" John Cena decided to shoot when he should have been passing. 
#17
Laois / Re: 2019 All Ireland Football Qualifiers
July 01, 2019, 08:49:26 AM
Total fix!
#18
General discussion / Re: glastonbury
June 30, 2019, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2019, 10:49:12 PM
I loved The Cure growing up, didn't do the eye liner stuff but certainly loved their songs , but not convinced tonight.

??

Jeez I think they're superb!
#19
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 08:42:43 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 08:01:38 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 05:53:28 PM
Was this the fault of the referee too?

https://twitter.com/untitledgaa/status/1145044385484218368?s=21

You still here? A clip with absolutely no context to it? What happened in the lead up to that? What was said or done?

So you're suggesting the that the Armagh no 5 may have been justified in committing that act of cowardice??
Reread what I read and answer properly. And as for acts of cowardice, have a look st your own players first

If you're talking about McCann he got punished and rightly so. Lots of unsavoury incidents happen in the heat of battle v opponents.  Taking your frustration in losing out on a man of 50+, engaged in conversation, when facing the other direction takes a special moment of cowardice.  Then to top it all he immediately hides behind the no 12.  Pathetic.

And you saw everything that happened did you? A little shove is hardly taking out frustrations is it. I guess with school out we have 7 weeks of putting up with you

Again you're alluding to the fact that no 5 may have been justified in his actions and somethiing may have happened beforehand that meant he deserved to be shoved.   Why continue to grasp at straws and not just call it out for what everyone else can see .... a trampish act?

A trampish act. Don't make me laugh. A trampish act would be putting your fingers down the throat of some defenceless player on the ground. Now, who would do that. While it doesn't look good, nowhere close to trampish, I'm not gonna judge it on that small piece of video

I guess when you've a manager who thinks it's ok to shoulder barge an opposing player who is blind-sided at half time and an ex-captain who verbally abuses the girl carrying the flag during the band parade you begin to understand young Forker didn't lift such behaviour off the ground!
#20
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 05:53:28 PM
Was this the fault of the referee too?

https://twitter.com/untitledgaa/status/1145044385484218368?s=21

You still here? A clip with absolutely no context to it? What happened in the lead up to that? What was said or done?

So you're suggesting the that the Armagh no 5 may have been justified in committing that act of cowardice??
Reread what I read and answer properly. And as for acts of cowardice, have a look st your own players first

If you're talking about McCann he got punished and rightly so. Lots of unsavoury incidents happen in the heat of battle v opponents.  Taking your frustration in losing out on a man of 50+, engaged in conversation, when facing the other direction takes a special moment of cowardice.  Then to top it all he immediately hides behind the no 12.  Pathetic.

And you saw everything that happened did you? A little shove is hardly taking out frustrations is it. I guess with school out we have 7 weeks of putting up with you

Again you're alluding to the fact that no 5 may have been justified in his actions and somethiing may have happened beforehand that meant he deserved to be shoved.   Why continue to grasp at straws and not just call it out for what everyone else can see .... a trampish act?
#21
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 05:53:28 PM
Was this the fault of the referee too?

https://twitter.com/untitledgaa/status/1145044385484218368?s=21

You still here? A clip with absolutely no context to it? What happened in the lead up to that? What was said or done?

So you're suggesting the that the Armagh no 5 may have been justified in committing that act of cowardice??
Reread what I read and answer properly. And as for acts of cowardice, have a look st your own players first

If you're talking about McCann he got punished and rightly so. Lots of unsavoury incidents happen in the heat of battle v opponents.  Taking your frustration in losing out on a man of 50+, engaged in conversation, when facing the other direction takes a special moment of cowardice.  Then to top it all he immediately hides behind the no 12.  Pathetic.
#22
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 05:53:28 PM
Was this the fault of the referee too?

https://twitter.com/untitledgaa/status/1145044385484218368?s=21

You still here? A clip with absolutely no context to it? What happened in the lead up to that? What was said or done?

So you're suggesting the that the Armagh no 5 may have been justified in committing that act of cowardice??
#24
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.

Did Kildare start the game with 14 men then? Any wonder they lost!  ;D
#25
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2019, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 10:51:25 AM
He'll have plenty of time to practice a better goal celebration now he's on his holidays.....cringe!

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsGAA/status/1145040011450077185

The only thing cringe is you

So is this the sort of crap they teach at this Orchard Academy?  Any wonder you're out of the championship every year before the 12th.   ;D
#26
He'll have plenty of time to practice a better goal celebration now he's on his holidays.....cringe!

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsGAA/status/1145040011450077185
#27
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2019, 12:18:35 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 11:59:57 PM
I'm sure the likes of Fermanagh, Leitrim or Armagh would be very glad of a Tommy Murphy 2.0 in the cabinet. They don't get much of a chance at silverware after all.
Quit the wind up. We're after giving a Division one team a hiding and coming within a whisker of another today. Playing in some B competition would be an insult.

So do you think MO'R resigned cos he reckons Armagh are gonna sweep the boards for years or cos he realises  the Farney's limited challenge at the top is all done?
#28
Quote from: dublin7 on June 30, 2019, 12:14:50 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.

I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.

Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle

Maybe if Tyrone gave him a free Hyundai and delivered all the performance enhancing chemicals nutrition he needs to his door every week he could stay on his feet like the Dubs.... ;)
So we've gone from the money is the reason for dubs dominating to performance enhancing substances. I suppose it's something different.. I'd suggest Tyrone players have a long range free kick competition during the week to pick a free taker for their next game. Not for the first time Morgan was awful. Doesn't say much for the rest of the squad when management  never made a change. That will cost Tyrone down the line
So how come simple numerical advantage didn't win a single AI since 1995 until both factors were heavily introduced to the Dublin set-up?
#29
General discussion / Re: Willie Frazer and FAIR
June 30, 2019, 12:12:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2019, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2019, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2019, 10:31:07 PM
All the bitterness can't have been good for him.
Although he seems to be from a long line of bitterness so is likely to have had it instilled in him anyway but he did have a lot of reason to be bitter.
I'm not sure how well rounded I'd be having suffered the losses he did, without discussing the rights & wrongs of them.
It was probably what killed him as well. Trauma affects people differently. There is loads of trauma in the North.
58 or whatever is a very young age.  Dolours Price was also relatively young when she died.

Did Delours Price not die from a cocktail of  drink/prescription drugs?
She did but had been alcoholic for a good while before.

She cared for her aunt who was blinded and lost both hands in an accident with a bomb. She wasn't allowed out of Lincoln prison for the funeral of her mother. Etc etc

There is a song in Irish about the death of her mother.

https://youtu.be/eUjp5-TqaXc

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/filming-dolours-price-her-name-is-latin-for-sorrow-that-describes-her-life-1.3610215?mode=amp
She was threatening to go public with everything," MoIoney says. "That would have caused enormous damage to herself, to her family, to all sorts of people."
Dolours Price was a source for The Secret History of the IRA and Moloney had an extensive understanding of just how many windows were about to be rattled. She could talk to Gerry Adams's early days. She could spill details on the abduction of Belfast woman Jean McConville in 1972.

She remembers caring for an aunt who was blinded and lost both hands following an accident with IRA explosives. Initially, unlike her father and that aunt, she believed in peaceful change, but her experiences at the Burntollet Bridge incident in 1969 – when security forces allowed loyalist protesters to brutally attack a civil rights march – altered her attitude forever.

After that, they felt Northern Ireland was beyond reform," Moloney says. "After that she came to view her father's view as correct. For many others the path was then a straightforward one into the arms of the IRA. Many more followed after internment came in."

Whatever one's feeling about the Troubles, hers remains a sad story. She was married to the actor Stephen Rea from 1983 until 2003, but died in 2013 after taking a toxic combination of sedatives and anti-depressant medications. She had been on hunger strike in prison and had subsequently dealt with anorexia nervosa.

An incredibly sad upbringing and life all of which was a reaction to British injustice. No doubt her similar story has resonated throughout the 'empire' for generations.
#30
General discussion / Re: glastonbury
June 30, 2019, 12:06:57 AM
Killers very good and the addition of God that is  Johnny Marr just made the whole thing!