Playing wexford at 7.30 in Crettyard tonight. Anyone know much about them?
3-6 to 0-2 in favour of Laois at half time via Twitter.
Won 3-13 to 0-8 in the end.
Should be a very strong panel when they all get together.
Team was missing the likes of Paddy O'Sullivan, Adam Campion, Danny O'Reilly, Trevor Collins, Eoin Buggie, Evan O'Carroll, Evin Keane, Michael Keogh, Tom Shiel, David Aston, Nigel Murphy, Dean Cullen, Col Murphy and Ciaran McEvoy.
I've tried to attach a team-sheet I found on twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX5vwDlWEAA-vYr.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX5vwDlWEAA-vYr.jpg:large)
Looks like you have attached the Wexford team
https://twitter.com/deangoodison/status/684144735838158848
I did say I 'tried'
Thanks Pablo ;) ;D
God loves a trier .... :)
Welcome to Laois GAA Board Shapes....
Were the under 21's out today?
Minors are playing in Fenagh tonight v Carlow.
U21s lost 1-7 to 8 against tipp last sat, they were missing 8-9 lads on senior panel & on colleges teams. Think this will be a good team when they have everyone. They have good draw in championship louth 1st round away & then winners of carlow/wicklow at home, if they get through that a semi final against winner of dublin/meath..
Our minors played Laois last night in mullingar. good game. think laois have two teams. we won 2-18 to 2-12. we also have 2 teams. reverse fixture is in laois on friday night not sure of venue.
Under 21's had a good win over Galway today in the semi final of the McNulty Cup. Playing Kildare next weekend in the final.
Kildare are very strong, I saw them hammer Galway a few weeks ago. Will be a good test for our lads. We'll know a lot more about the level we're at.
Team yesterday was - Aaron Cooney (St. Joseph's); Liam Knowles (Stradbally), Adam Campion (St. Joseph's), Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin); Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen), Robbie Dowling (The Heath), Aaron Carroll (Ballyroan/Abbey); Cathail Dunne (Ballylinan), James Hillard (Mountmellick); Michael Keogh (St. Joseph's), Nigel Murphy (Emo), Aaron Dowling (The Rock); Seán Moore (Ballyfin), Eoin Lowry (Killeshin), Dylan Doyle (St. Joseph's).
Subs used: Danny O'Reilly (Graiguecullen), Andrew Baldwin (Barrowhouse), James Baldwin (Barrowhouse), Tom Shiel (Stradbally) and Joe Walshe (The Heath)
With the likes of Patrick O'Sullivan, Evin Keane, Evan O'Carroll, Dean Cullen and Ciarán McEvoy to come back, these lads could go far. Have Louth away in the first round of the championship and if they get over that they play Carlow/Wicklow.
Was at the match yesterday - getting to match names with faces still. Campion, Dowling and Lowry were stand outs for me. This side have plenty of potential - haven't seen 21's as good as this in Laois for a good few years. Promising.
Tom Shiel, Conor Hogan and Colm Murphy also to be added. Strong looking panel.
Where is Conor Hogan from heard he is a decent player?
Is James Moore from Ballyfin not u21 again this year he is also a good player??
Conor Hogan is Courtwood. And no, James Moore would be overage now.
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on January 25, 2016, 01:25:56 PM
Conor Hogan is Courtwood. And no, James Moore would be overage now.
Thanks Seen James Moore in action against Portlaoise in the u21 Semi this year he was immense big big chap with lovely skill.
Nice to see talent coming from Courtwood again a proud footballing club
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on January 24, 2016, 01:10:54 PM
Team yesterday was - Aaron Cooney (St. Joseph's); Liam Knowles (Stradbally), Adam Campion (St. Joseph's), Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin); Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen), Robbie Dowling (The Heath), Aaron Carroll (Ballyroan/Abbey); Cathail Dunne (Ballylinan), James Hillard (Mountmellick); Michael Keogh (St. Joseph's), Nigel Murphy (Emo), Aaron Dowling (The Rock); Seán Moore (Ballyfin), Eoin Lowry (Killeshin), Dylan Doyle (St. Joseph's).
Subs used: Danny O'Reilly (Graiguecullen), Andrew Baldwin (Barrowhouse), James Baldwin (Barrowhouse), Tom Shiel (Stradbally) and Joe Walshe (The Heath)
With the likes of Patrick O'Sullivan, Evin Keane, Evan O'Carroll, Dean Cullen and Ciarán McEvoy to come back, these lads could go far. Have Louth away in the first round of the championship and if they get over that they play Carlow/Wicklow.
Is Cullen the only player from Portlaoise ? anyone from Port ?
Quote from: OTF on January 25, 2016, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on January 24, 2016, 01:10:54 PM
Team yesterday was - Aaron Cooney (St. Joseph's); Liam Knowles (Stradbally), Adam Campion (St. Joseph's), Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin); Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen), Robbie Dowling (The Heath), Aaron Carroll (Ballyroan/Abbey); Cathail Dunne (Ballylinan), James Hillard (Mountmellick); Michael Keogh (St. Joseph's), Nigel Murphy (Emo), Aaron Dowling (The Rock); Seán Moore (Ballyfin), Eoin Lowry (Killeshin), Dylan Doyle (St. Joseph's).
Subs used: Danny O'Reilly (Graiguecullen), Andrew Baldwin (Barrowhouse), James Baldwin (Barrowhouse), Tom Shiel (Stradbally) and Joe Walshe (The Heath)
With the likes of Patrick O'Sullivan, Evin Keane, Evan O'Carroll, Dean Cullen and Ciarán McEvoy to come back, these lads could go far. Have Louth away in the first round of the championship and if they get over that they play Carlow/Wicklow.
Is Cullen the only player from Portlaoise ? anyone from Port ?
Ciarán McEvoy would be there as well. From Portarlington, you'd have Colm Murphy and Paddy O'Sullivan.
Anyone know of a venue and time for the match against Kildare?
Heard it's in Annanough on saturday at 6pm but that might not be true..
Confirmed today.... The final of the Peter McNulty Under-21 Football Tournament Final takes place on Saturday @ 6pm in Annanough between Laois and Kildare
Kildare are the inaugural Peter McNulty Tournament champions after a 2-15 to 2-13 win after extra time over hosts Laois.
Kildare 2-15
Laois 2-13
Kildare have been crowned the inaugural champions of the Peter Mc Nulty Cup following a thrilling extra time victory over Laois in Annanough this evening.
Eoin Lowry helped the O'Moore men into a 1-6 to 0-6 half-time lead with a well taken goal midway through the first half, although Kildare showed enough attacking intent in the opening 30 minutes to stay in touch with a solid looking Laois side.
Conor Hartley and Cein McMonagle got the Lilywhites off to a perfect start in the second half when they scored a point apiece, though Laois were converting their chances at the other end with great assurance to maintain the lead.
A superb goal from Luke Flynn finally pushed the visitors ahead and they led 1-12 to 1-9 going into the final ten minutes, but Laois were not going to let the game slip by them.
Eoin Lowry cracked in his second goal of the tie in the final stages, pushing the O'Moore men two points ahead with just five minutes to go, but Kildare rallied and a fine point from Conor Hartley, which was also the last kick of the game, levelled matters and forced extra time with the scoreboard reading 1-13 to 2-10.
Extra time was just as tight as the 60 minutes which preceeded it, but a Cein McMonagle goal at the beginning of the second half gave Kildare a lead that they would manage to retain for the rest of the game despite Laois' best efforts.
Decent run in this from laois, good preparation for championship in 3 weeks time.. Any word on team last Saturday or who played well?
Quote from: From the Terrace on February 01, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
Decent run in this from laois, good preparation for championship in 3 weeks time.. Any word on team last Saturday or who played well?
Team: Aaron Cooney (St. Joseph's), Liam Knowles (Stradbally), Eoin Buggie (Stradbally), Aidan Brennan (St. Joseph's); Aaron Carroll (Ballyroan/Abbey), Robbie Dowling (The Heath), Adam Campion (St. Joseph's); James Hillard (Mountmellick), Brian Daly (Barrowhouse); Danny Hickey (St. Joseph's), Colm Murphy (Portarlington), Aaron Dowling (The Rock); Dylan Doyle (St. Joseph's), Eoin Lowry (Killeshin), Seán Moore (Ballyfin). Subs used: Andrew Baldwin (Barrowhouse), David Aston (Killeshin), Cathail Dunne (Ballylinan), Conor Hogan (Courtwood), Tom Shiel (Stradbally), James Baldwin (Barrowhouse), Cillian Callally (Rosenallis), Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin) and Eoin McCann (Portarlington).
None of those involved with the seniors played - Danny O'Reilly, Nigel Murphy, Trevor Collins, Evan O'Carroll.
Michael Keogh and Evin Keane were unavailable too. It's a serious team in fairness.
Great to see us competing at under-age again.
thanks shapes, really think this team has plenty of ability, Brian Daly has gone from strength to strength this last year & with O'Carroll & Lowry to name a couple looking forward to seeing these lads in championship.
A few players aside, it's a poor enough team. I wouldn't be expecting too much. Lads getting carried away again
Quote from: High Fielder on February 01, 2016, 11:52:29 AM
A few players aside, it's a poor enough team. I wouldn't be expecting too much. Lads getting carried away again
Have you seen them play this year?
Yes I have Shapes. Galway were watery and Kildare were under strength - as were we to be fair. It's early and they looked to be well coached rather than being a good team. There's a massive difference between the two. It remains to be seen just how competitive they will be. I don't think they'll make too much of an impression. The most encouraging aspect is the numbers committing. Mick Lillis wishes he could get that many for the Seniors I'd imagine
Yeah they had 31 there on Saturday night. With U21 it can be all about the day too. A lot of the lads are playing on Sigerson Cup teams as well which is encouraging. They have a decent draw with Louth away first and if they get over that, they have Wicklow/Carlow. I'd give them a chance anyway.
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on February 01, 2016, 01:28:24 PM
Yeah they had 31 there on Saturday night. With U21 it can be all about the day too. A lot of the lads are playing on Sigerson Cup teams as well which is encouraging. They have a decent draw with Louth away first and if they get over that, they have Wicklow/Carlow. I'd give them a chance anyway.
I sincerely hope you're right, God knows we could do with the boost a good run in this competition would give us.
Think it's a pretty decent squad.
Yes a pretty decent squad indeed . Saying that Louth away on the 24th will give us a proper indication of how far this team will go there this year . Championship is a different ball game but the sounds out of the camp are good !
Quote from: les Antiques on February 03, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Yes a pretty decent squad indeed . Saying that Louth away on the 24th will give us a proper indication of how far this team will go there this year . Championship is a different ball game but the sounds out of the camp are good !
Louth away never an easy game at any age group in football
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 03, 2016, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: les Antiques on February 03, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Yes a pretty decent squad indeed . Saying that Louth away on the 24th will give us a proper indication of how far this team will go there this year . Championship is a different ball game but the sounds out of the camp are good !
Louth away never an easy game at any age group in football
exactly this is a huge problem we have in Laos thinking we are better than all these other counties in around the same level we are but doing nothing on the field to prove it. A team like laois should play every game with a huge chip on their shoulder not looking past any team ,example worrying about a home draw against Dublin before we have Wicklow played.
Best investment county board could make is a motivational/ head doctor to talk and prepare all players from u16!up. Reality check we have been beaten by 4 div 4 teams in the last few years it's time to realize what we are doing is not working,
Team names for Wednesday's game up in Louth.
1. Aaron Cooney St Joseph's Barrowhouse
2. Liam Knowles Stradbally Parish Gaels
3. Adam Campion St Joseph's Barrowhouse
4. Eoin Buggie Stradbally Parish Gaels
5. Trevor Collins Graiguecullen
6. Robbie Dowling The Heath
7. Daniel O'Reilly Graiguecullen
8. Brian Daly St Joseph's Barrowhouse
9. Nigel Murphy Emo Courtwood The Rock
10. Danny Hickey St Joseph's Barrowhouse
11. Evan O'Carroll Killeshin Crettyard
12. Aaron Dowling Emo Courtwood The Rock
13. Colm Murphy Portarlington
14. Eoin Lowry (C) Killeshin Crettyard
15. Seán Moore Sarsfields
Suprising there is Only one Sarsfields man on it as they were very unlucky to loose to Portlaoise in the Semi in rathenskia last year I thought them and Portlaoise would offer more players
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
Suprising there is Only one Sarsfields man on it as they were very unlucky to loose to Portlaoise in the Semi in rathenskia last year I thought them and Portlaoise would offer more players
I didnt see the Sarsfield/Portlaise semi but i did see the final and Portlaoise were totally trounced by that Josephs/Barrowhouse combination and no Portlaoise player stood out. Then again are those portlaoise players you might alude to be over age for this year. I dont really know the Sarsfield players that could have been considered.. One big surprise for me is the omission of the Joes/BH full forward Michael Keogh. He completely destroyed anyone who tried to mark him in last years u21 local championship. Also i am worried about our goalkeeper as he is a small (in height) keeper. Is that goalie from Mountmellick who played sigerson with UCD still u21.....
Quote from: The Monument Road on February 22, 2016, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
Suprising there is Only one Sarsfields man on it as they were very unlucky to loose to Portlaoise in the Semi in rathenskia last year I thought them and Portlaoise would offer more players
I didnt see the Sarsfield/Portlaise semi but i did see the final and Portlaoise were totally trounced by that Josephs/Barrowhouse combination and no Portlaoise player stood out. Then again are those portlaoise players you might alude to be over age for this year. I dont really know the Sarsfield players that could have been considered.. One big surprise for me is the omission of the Joes/BH full forward Michael Keogh. He completely destroyed anyone who tried to mark him in last years u21 local championship. Also i am worried about our goalkeeper as he is a small (in height) keeper. Is that goalie from Mountmellick who played sigerson with UCD still u21.....
I understand Dean Cullen and Ciaran McEvoy (from Portlaoise) both declined to be part of the panel.
I completely agree re Michael Keogh - but then it's great to have a player like that off the bench.
Eoghan Keogh is overage. The sub keeper Joe Walsh is of a similar stature to Cooney though so there isn't much option and he certainly will need protection.
Don't worry too much lads about the size of our keepers, I have seen both play and they are well able to command their area and look after them self's, Keogh a bit of a surprise alright but good quality team none the less. Best of luck to them on Wednesday
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on February 22, 2016, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: The Monument Road on February 22, 2016, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
Suprising there is Only one Sarsfields man on it as they were very unlucky to loose to Portlaoise in the Semi in rathenskia last year I thought them and Portlaoise would offer more players
I didnt see the Sarsfield/Portlaise semi but i did see the final and Portlaoise were totally trounced by that Josephs/Barrowhouse combination and no Portlaoise player stood out. Then again are those portlaoise players you might alude to be over age for this year. I dont really know the Sarsfield players that could have been considered.. One big surprise for me is the omission of the Joes/BH full forward Michael Keogh. He completely destroyed anyone who tried to mark him in last years u21 local championship. Also i am worried about our goalkeeper as he is a small (in height) keeper. Is that goalie from Mountmellick who played sigerson with UCD still u21.....
Is that Joe walsh from the heath??
He is a decent Keeper alright plays in goals for abbeyleix A team in soccer!
I understand Dean Cullen and Ciaran McEvoy (from Portlaoise) both declined to be part of the panel.
I completely agree re Michael Keogh - but then it's great to have a player like that off the bench.
Eoghan Keogh is overage. The sub keeper Joe Walsh is of a similar stature to Cooney though so there isn't much option and he certainly will need protection.
Keogh is overage. Any of you lads have a clue at all? I suppose Colm Parkinson should tog out with the minors too!!!
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on February 22, 2016, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: The Monument Road on February 22, 2016, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
Suprising there is Only one Sarsfields man on it as they were very unlucky to loose to Portlaoise in the Semi in rathenskia last year I thought them and Portlaoise would offer more players
I didnt see the Sarsfield/Portlaise semi but i did see the final and Portlaoise were totally trounced by that Josephs/Barrowhouse combination and no Portlaoise player stood out. Then again are those portlaoise players you might alude to be over age for this year. I dont really know the Sarsfield players that could have been considered.. One big surprise for me is the omission of the Joes/BH full forward Michael Keogh. He completely destroyed anyone who tried to mark him in last years u21 local championship. Also i am worried about our goalkeeper as he is a small (in height) keeper. Is that goalie from Mountmellick who played sigerson with UCD still u21.....
Is that Joe walsh from the heath??
He is a decent Keeper alright plays in goals for abbeyleix A team in soccer!
I understand Dean Cullen and Ciaran McEvoy (from Portlaoise) both declined to be part of the panel.
I completely agree re Michael Keogh - but then it's great to have a player like that off the bench.
Eoghan Keogh is overage. The sub keeper Joe Walsh is of a similar stature to Cooney though so there isn't much option and he certainly will need protection.
Quote from: Lake County on February 22, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
Keogh is overage. Any of you lads have a clue at all? I suppose Colm Parkinson should tog out with the minors too!!!
Nonsense post.
yes Keogh is overage. The reason their is very few Sarsfields players in the squad monument road is because last years team is now nearly all overage.
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Shapes Ex Laoistalk on February 22, 2016, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: The Monument Road on February 22, 2016, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 22, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
Suprising there is Only one Sarsfields man on it as they were very unlucky to loose to Portlaoise in the Semi in rathenskia last year I thought them and Portlaoise would offer more players
I didnt see the Sarsfield/Portlaise semi but i did see the final and Portlaoise were totally trounced by that Josephs/Barrowhouse combination and no Portlaoise player stood out. Then again are those portlaoise players you might alude to be over age for this year. I dont really know the Sarsfield players that could have been considered.. One big surprise for me is the omission of the Joes/BH full forward Michael Keogh. He completely destroyed anyone who tried to mark him in last years u21 local championship. Also i am worried about our goalkeeper as he is a small (in height) keeper. Is that goalie from Mountmellick who played sigerson with UCD still u21.....
Is that Joe walsh from the heath??
He is a decent Keeper alright plays in goals for abbeyleix A team in soccer!
I understand Dean Cullen and Ciaran McEvoy (from Portlaoise) both declined to be part of the panel.
I completely agree re Michael Keogh - but then it's great to have a player like that off the bench.
Eoghan Keogh is overage. The sub keeper Joe Walsh is of a similar stature to Cooney though so there isn't much option and he certainly will need protection.
Yes Unloaised, that's him alright! Played in goal for The Heath seniors this year too.
Quote from: Lake County on February 22, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
Keogh is overage. Any of you lads have a clue at all? I suppose Colm Parkinson should tog out with the minors too!!!
http://www.laois-nationalist.ie/2013/05/10/laois-minor-football-team-announced/
Aye, he's overage...
Evin Keane, Paddy O'Sullivan and Tom Shields injured? All 3 have senior experience and was expecting them to start og available
Can't understand how Conor Hogan and Mikey Keogh don't start.
Quote from: Barney Army on February 22, 2016, 06:19:00 PM
Evin Keane, Paddy O'Sullivan and Tom Shields injured? All 3 have senior experience and was expecting them to start og available
Evin and Paddy are injured, Tom is on the bench.
Strong bench too with the likes of Michael Keogh and Tom Shields on it.... Best of luck lads.
Best of luck to the U21's tonight.
A tough assignment but a very decent team going up there to take on Louth. Pity they have it on so far away. Drogheda would have been much handier for travelling Laois support.
It's great to see Derek Conroy at the helm. We never really saw the best of him as a senior footballer but he was some player for us underage. Seems to have the right attitude for the job. Best of luck to him and all involved.
Good win 3-15 to 1-14. was it a bit of a shoot out ?
Great win lads, through to a qtr final against Wicklow
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcAg-v7W8AAPDp4.jpg)
Did Evan O Carroll get a bad injury? I read that he had to go off after 33 minutes?
Not much hurling done on that pitch I'd say....
Any reports from the game? Good win and seem to have plenty of goal scoring threat.
Great win - Wicklow up next who beat Carlow by 5-11 to 3-13 in a crazy game. Wicklow were 4-10 to 1-10 up with ten minutes to go, Carlow levelled it at 3-13 to 4-10 as it went into injury time before Wicklow came back to win it.
You'd have to fancy us at home anyway.
Here's a report for those who asked: http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/lowry-plays-captains-role-as-laois-u21s-power-past-louth-34483672.html
Some scoring by Evan O Carroll in half an hour. Enormous potential and already earning a reputation at senior level.
I really hope the injury isn't too serious.
He was my MOTM against Armagh. Love his running style. There's only one thing on his mind when he gets the ball and that's to run at the opposition.
Yeah Evan is a very exciting prospect. Very strong direct runner and well able to take a score. Just hope he doesn't turn into a 'one trick pony' and teams cotton on to his style. No harm if he's encouraged to mix it up a bit instead of constantly running with it
Laois Under-21 Footballers will take on Wicklow next Wednesday @ 7.30pm in O'Moore Park.
The prize at stake for this one is a provincial semi-final. Good luck lads...
1. Aaron Cooney St Joseph's Barrowhouse
2. Liam Knowles Stradbally Parish Gaels
3. Adam Campion St Joseph's Barrowhouse
4. Eoin Buggie Stradbally Parish Gaels
5. Trevor Collins Graiguecullen
6. Robbie Dowling The Heath
7. Daniel O'Reilly Graiguecullen
8. Brian Daly St Joseph's Barrowhouse
9. Nigel Murphy Emo Courtwood The Rock
10. Danny Hickey St Joseph's Barrowhouse
11. Evan O'Carroll Killeshin Crettyard
12. Aaron Dowling Emo Courtwood The Rock
13. Colm Murphy Portarlington
14. Eoin Lowry (C) Killeshin Crettyard
15. Seán Moore Sarsfields
Evan O'Carroll won't play his done the hammy last week ...Lillis didn't want him to play the u21 game as he was feeling it after the Armagh game looks like he will be out for a few weeks now! :'(
O'Carroll is a bog loss for the U21's and the seniors.
Same team listed as last week anyhow so at least one change. Without being complacent they should have enough to get over Wicklow either way.
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 29, 2016, 01:20:27 PM
Evan O'Carroll won't play his done the hammy last week ...Lillis didn't want him to play the u21 game as he was feeling it after the Armagh game looks like he will be out for a few weeks now! :'(
So that's what Lillis meant by his 'I don't really want to get into it' comment on Evan on Mid Radio 3! Real pity, we could do with him on both teams.
I wonder will Tom Shiels make a return on Wednesday night ..? A good replacement for Evan Ocarroll of so !!
He came on against Louth scored a good point but looks unfit he had injury problems so its taking him a while to get back up to speed!
Michael Keogh came in too and scored a couple of goals so maybe a start for him.
Michael Keogh is a great prospect
Match off until March 9th, anyone know how bad O'Carroll's injury is?
Quote from: Uisce on March 02, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
Match off until March 9th, anyone know how bad O'Carroll's injury is?
Why is the game off?
Unplayable pitch
Quote from: les Antiques on March 02, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
Unplayable pitch
Probably suit Laois better Evan might be back the next day!
Yeah that's true but not sure the extent of OCarrolls hamstring injury or how long he is expected to be out !? I know Lillis wasn't best pleased with him starting in Haggardstown ..
Why Should Lillis be unhappy that Carroll played in Louth is this not his grade,
Quote from: Mock on March 02, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
Why Should Lillis be unhappy that Carroll played in Louth is this not his grade,
I think his hammer was damaged against Armagh and Senior Physio advised him against playing for a couple of weeks.
Well thats what I was told you could understand Derek Conroy wanting him at all costs ..
Dublin beat Meath by 6 points so that's the prize of a win against Wicklow. Lads want to be playing against the top teams if they have any aspirations. Get over the Wicklow hurdle first.
I assume with our game being called off that some of the management team made the trip to Dublin to have a look at the game.
Quote from: Mock on March 02, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
Why Should Lillis be unhappy that Carroll played in Louth is this not his grade,
Senior team gets priority
Evan OCarroll has become an important and established part of the Laois Senior set up . Senior team will always be priority in the case .
If his hamstring was tight, he probably should have been rested for the U21 game. He's an important player for the U21s but these 3-5 weeks out with the hamstring will set him back further. Caution should have been practiced.
Looking forward to the match later at 7.30 - getting through to a semi-final would be massive for us. Should be clear for the game. I expect us to win with relative ease, but hopefully all is well with prepararion. Laois 1/20 to win at paddypower.
Best of luck to the guys tonight.
We should win but should also be mindful of what can go wrong.
We were also very hot favourites in 2008 v Wicklow and they turned us over.
Coincidently, that was also on March 9th!!
Savage scoring in 60 minuets but what about our defence ??
20 scores to 12 but 3 goals would be a worry. O'Carroll very influential when he came in.
See Evin Keane back tonight also after being out with shoulder injury. Will be great addition for Dublin match.
Any match report or who played well?
Team improved a lot with the substitutions.
Just glad to see us back in business end of underage competitions. tried to attach full match report from the42.ie website unsuccessfully its decent.
http://www.the42.ie/laois-wicklow-u21-football-report-2651405-Mar2016/ (http://www.the42.ie/laois-wicklow-u21-football-report-2651405-Mar2016/)
There it is.
Anyone at the match got a good report of how they played? Certainly was exciting to watch on Twitter!
Obviously took a lot of courage to come back from the two early goals and did well to be 5 points to the good in the end before the goal.
What individuals stood out and do they have the potential to drive on against the Dubs?
Was in at the game last night. Can't say I am too familiar with all of the players but they played well in the second half.
Wicklow played good football in the first half, running at Laois and getting a score with the majority of their attacks. It was worrying that they got through so easily considering Laois had the centre back dropped deep in front of the full back line. Wicklow could have had another goal or two. They will have to really tighten up the centre against Dublin to avoid being exposed again.
Laois were a different team in the second half, the introduction of O'Carroll really spurred them on. They took their points very well, they were still lucky that Wicklow hit the crossbar with the penalty as Laois would have really thrown it away if they had not have won. When Laois started to get a head of steam they started to take a lot of optimistic shots at goal rather than getting the ball into the scoring zone. It is a sign of confidence but they can't afford to waste chances against better opposition. They weren't far enough ahead to be doing that.
It was a good rounded performance, can't say any individuals really stood out above others. Plenty of talent in the team so should fear nothing when playing Dublin.
Dublin game will be in Parnell Park on March 19th.
Big ask to win but lets hope we give it a good shot.
Huge performance needed this weekend to overturn the Dubs, it'll come down to massive work rate!
The mystery was how there was only 3 points between them 10 minutes into the second half.
The Dubs had at least 20 players with massive power and pace Laois had maybe 5.
No fault Laois we can't compete with their resources.
A very poor set of backs over the three games. O'Carroll is a beast of a footballer though.
Quote from: OTF on March 19, 2016, 04:33:56 PM
The mystery was how there was only 3 points between them 10 minutes into the second half.
The Dubs had at least 20 players with massive power and pace Laois had maybe 5.
No fault Laois we can't compete with their resources.
It's nothing to do with resources. Your player development programme is shite.
Monaghan have blown all theories on resources out the window with one of the smallest populations in Ireland.
Quote from: INDIANA on March 19, 2016, 06:01:11 PM
Quote from: OTF on March 19, 2016, 04:33:56 PM
The mystery was how there was only 3 points between them 10 minutes into the second half.
The Dubs had at least 20 players with massive power and pace Laois had maybe 5.
No fault Laois we can't compete with their resources.
It's nothing to do with resources. Your player development programme is shite.
Monaghan have blown all theories on resources out the window with one of the smallest populations in Ireland.
Complete wind up merchant. If the player development programme is as shite as you say (which is again something you know absolute squat about), then it is obviously to do with resources as we wouldn't have the staff that Dublin have from schools level up.
Quote from: Andy06 on March 19, 2016, 08:24:12 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on March 19, 2016, 06:01:11 PM
Quote from: OTF on March 19, 2016, 04:33:56 PM
The mystery was how there was only 3 points between them 10 minutes into the second half.
The Dubs had at least 20 players with massive power and pace Laois had maybe 5.
No fault Laois we can't compete with their resources.
It's nothing to do with resources. Your player development programme is shite.
Monaghan have blown all theories on resources out the window with one of the smallest populations in Ireland.
Complete wind up merchant. If the player development programme is as shite as you say (which is again something you know absolute squat about), then it is obviously to do with resources as we wouldn't have the staff that Dublin have from schools level up.
It's shite because you're badly organised, the coaching isn't all that good and you haven't hired any S&C expertise and like most things with Laois GAA blaming everybody else is always easiest. Even counties like Longford, Cavan , Westmeath all have good underage programmes.
But by all means blame everybody else - it's always easier. You're still stuck in 1996-1999 at underage
The guy says pumping huge money vs hardly any money into underage doesn't make a difference. That can only be for one reason : he's a fool.
Course it makes a difference. So does population. Laois did well this year though, and the setup wasn't bad, considering all. There are some really talented forwards coming through. O 'Carroll will be massive for the seniors this year.
Bye bye Indiana, time to go back to your own forum. no credibility after saying the huge investment dublin are getting vs most other counties doesn't matter.
I won't lie I was hugely disappointed with yesterday. I went up with a lot of hope to the game but if that is the best we can offer. I was maybe naive in thinking we had some of the best forwards in a long time in this team but I doubt any would make the Dublin team the way they currently play. I have watched Evan O Carroll quite a bit and there is no doubting his ability. But he is constantly taking too much out of the ball sure he scores, but the toll it takes means he blows up way too early, he also has a habit of continually going down which I personally find infuriating. Also he is quite easy to bully out of the game. For all my criticisms, if he does what he can do namely get the ball in space he is a joy to watch but sometimes a lay off is easier than continually trying to beat 3 players. Derek Conroy is my biggest disappointment, I really thought that he was a young manager on the up but yesterday there was no defensive plan and quite simply till players in Laois learn to defend we have no chance of any major progress. A couple of years ago I watched Laois play a 60-70 percent fit Kerry team in the National League and I was stunned at the amount of times Kerry could break the tackle which then allowed overlaps which just causes all sorts of mayhem. Yesterday was a better version of this. Its quite obvious we have to start a strength and conditioning program for all our development teams as well as some overall strategy of the way we play and develop players. There is little wrong with the talent in Laois but there is with the way we are coaching and progressing players and teams.
Quote from: Tony on March 20, 2016, 09:09:03 AM
The guy says pumping huge money vs hardly any money into underage doesn't make a difference. That can only be for one reason : he's a fool.
Course it makes a difference. So does population. Laois did well this year though, and the setup wasn't bad, considering all. There are some really talented forwards coming through. O 'Carroll will be massive for the seniors this year.
Bye bye Indiana, time to go back to your own forum. no credibility after saying the huge investment dublin are getting vs most other counties doesn't matter.
No worries see you in a Leinster senior final in 40 years maybe. You're in a dire state and it's nothing to do with resources.
I'm not going to waste my breath on your nonsense talk Indiana.
Some good points Ballyroanabu. I don't think that Dublin team will win an all Ireland. Our lads for the majority, played as bad as I have seen and we flattered them. Our 3 scoring weapons would be O Carroll, Moore and Lowry. Moore only played 20 minutes after receiving a ridiculously harsh black card, O Carroll looked like he played the game on one leg and Lowry will hardly be that poor again. I thought the best of our lads were Knowles, O Sullivan and Keogh.
Id agree about Derek Conroy. His substitutions were complete head scratchers.
Coming out of Parnell Park yesterday, I felt like Dublin were playing a different game to the rest of us. They are so far ahead in terms of strength, conditioning, tactical work, fitness, skills, tackling, work rate etc, that it was a sobering drive home. Both the minor and U-21 teams played basically the same. As the players progress it's easy to move between grades or be promoted up, you already know what to do. 'Player Pathway' is something of buzz phrase at the moment and Dublin have the theory down to a tee. The players are geared towards a specific brand of football, with a strong emphasis on physical conditioning. Either you do the work or get out of the way, because there'll be someone to take your place. There is obviously success along the way which helps to keep players focused and motivated. Having the playing numbers and finances to do that is crucial as well, obviously.
I'm not saying we are neglecting our underage coaching, but we are light years away from competing for a provincial title, if Saturday is anything to go by. We give our players what you could call a 'general' coaching education. They have the skills of the game, but we struggle with anything specific. We don't defend well, we don't track runs, we don't have a clear plan in attack, we don't pressurize the ball until it's too late, we don't have a plan for kickouts. We have been left behind. It was disheartening to see. When we were successful all those years ago games were a bit more off the cuff, so you could get away with it, but the game has changed a lot in the last ten years and we haven't caught up, and don't appear likely to do so any time soon either.
One thing we have to seriously look at is hiring a full-time S&C coach. Plenty of money gets spent in hiring lads to work with different panels in both codes, and at the different grades. Surely instead of paying a variety of coaches, this money could be funneled into hiring someone on a full-time basis that could then be charged with overseeing a programme for the development squads as well as the county teams, and there is a clear vision for the progress of our county players. There are plenty of S&C courses out there as well which will have students looking for work experience, and they could be brought in at various times of the year to work under your main S&C coach to implement the plan. I'm sure there would be more to it that this to get it off the ground, but we'd be naive not to be looking at it.
We spent about around €650k on county teams last year, and with most managers not getting a penny, that is €650k on hired-in coaches, meals, buses, gear, mileage etc. Surely there is scope in that figure to hire someone full-time?
I fully agree with everyone that we struggle because of our lack of resources. We undoubtedly do. Look at the sponsorship deals other county's get compared to us. But limited resources should also mean you make a concerted effort to make the most of what you have. I don't think we are doing that.
The Dublin thing is a huge worry. Yes, we need to catch up in terms of our coaching setups and player development but we need to look at this in context. Dublin were barren between 1995 and 2011 which created a response from the Dublin clubs, Dublin GAA and central GAA which has completely overcompensated for any deficiencies. Some of the clubs in Dublin are richer than many county boards and have the facilities and set ups to match professional teams. They have won 3 of the last 5 All Irelands and only been beaten once in 10 years inside Leinster. Not to mention their minor, U21 and club dominance. Our minor and U21 teams both were very competitive this year with everyone except Dublin. With a population of 1.2 million people and the setup they have now, they are likely to be the dominant force in football for the foreseeable future. The best of the rest are even struggling to come to terms, with much larger footballing populations and resources. Laois won't solve this - we would need to be churning out 20 near professional atheletes a year with a huge professional coaching staff looking at playing systems. A Dublin senior player is essentially a full time professional at this point with an army of lads who can step in and take his place - how do we catch up with that?
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on March 21, 2016, 11:34:06 AM
The Dublin thing is a huge worry. Yes, we need to catch up in terms of our coaching setups and player development but we need to look at this in context. Dublin were barren between 1995 and 2011 which created a response from the Dublin clubs, Dublin GAA and central GAA which has completely overcompensated for any deficiencies. Some of the clubs in Dublin are richer than many county boards and have the facilities and set ups to match professional teams. They have won 3 of the last 5 All Irelands and only been beaten once in 10 years inside Leinster. Not to mention their minor, U21 and club dominance. Our minor and U21 teams both were very competitive this year with everyone except Dublin. With a population of 1.2 million people and the setup they have now, they are likely to be the dominant force in football for the foreseeable future. The best of the rest are even struggling to come to terms, with much larger footballing populations and resources. Laois won't solve this - we would need to be churning out 20 near professional atheletes a year with a huge professional coaching staff looking at playing systems. A Dublin senior player is essentially a full time professional at this point with an army of lads who can step in and take his place - how do we catch up with that?
We don't catch up its as simple as that.....
Donegal pumped millions into their senior team over the past 5 years and it has got them some success but just some...Dublin have been pumping that money in for the guts of 10 years now and not just in the senior set up at every age and other counties cannot compete with it ..The gap will only widen.
I agree Unlaoised, the days of the smaller counties like Laois being able to compete with Dublin the odd time is finished.
To be fair to us, population wise we've always punched above our weight but Dublin are now on a different stratosphere.
They are incredibly organised now where as in the past they were a bit hap hazzard.
They have endless money. Endless different sponsors, one alone giving them a million a year.
Ballyboden St Endas have 22 U12 teams ..
We couldnt even get the money hunger powers that be to give us a home match against them.
I see them winning 8 out of the next 10 all irelands.
Mayo and Donegal are on the wane so it will be up to Tyrone and Kerry to try and stop them.
Quote from: steven seagal on March 20, 2016, 10:46:13 PM
Coming out of Parnell Park yesterday, I felt like Dublin were playing a different game to the rest of us. They are so far ahead in terms of strength, conditioning, tactical work, fitness, skills, tackling, work rate etc, that it was a sobering drive home. Both the minor and U-21 teams played basically the same. As the players progress it's easy to move between grades or be promoted up, you already know what to do. 'Player Pathway' is something of buzz phrase at the moment and Dublin have the theory down to a tee. The players are geared towards a specific brand of football, with a strong emphasis on physical conditioning. Either you do the work or get out of the way, because there'll be someone to take your place. There is obviously success along the way which helps to keep players focused and motivated. Having the playing numbers and finances to do that is crucial as well, obviously.
I'm not saying we are neglecting our underage coaching, but we are light years away from competing for a provincial title, if Saturday is anything to go by. We give our players what you could call a 'general' coaching education. They have the skills of the game, but we struggle with anything specific. We don't defend well, we don't track runs, we don't have a clear plan in attack, we don't pressurize the ball until it's too late, we don't have a plan for kickouts. We have been left behind. It was disheartening to see. When we were successful all those years ago games were a bit more off the cuff, so you could get away with it, but the game has changed a lot in the last ten years and we haven't caught up, and don't appear likely to do so any time soon either.
One thing we have to seriously look at is hiring a full-time S&C coach. Plenty of money gets spent in hiring lads to work with different panels in both codes, and at the different grades. Surely instead of paying a variety of coaches, this money could be funneled into hiring someone on a full-time basis that could then be charged with overseeing a programme for the development squads as well as the county teams, and there is a clear vision for the progress of our county players. There are plenty of S&C courses out there as well which will have students looking for work experience, and they could be brought in at various times of the year to work under your main S&C coach to implement the plan. I'm sure there would be more to it that this to get it off the ground, but we'd be naive not to be looking at it.
We spent about around €650k on county teams last year, and with most managers not getting a penny, that is €650k on hired-in coaches, meals, buses, gear, mileage etc. Surely there is scope in that figure to hire someone full-time?
I fully agree with everyone that we struggle because of our lack of resources. We undoubtedly do. Look at the sponsorship deals other county's get compared to us. But limited resources should also mean you make a concerted effort to make the most of what you have. I don't think we are doing that.
Excellent post as indeed were a number of others.