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johnneycool

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28605 on: September 05, 2017, 10:02:59 AM »
Down SHC is now in a round robin structure to decide who plays in the final.

To date we've had two games both in a draw at the end of normal time. The first time this happened no one from the CB or the two clubs seemed sure as to what was meant to happen, but extra time was agreed (initially) by the CB officials there and both clubs. We ended up winning both in extra time and are now in the final.
The other two clubs now complete the round robin section with what is now a knock out game in two weeks time to decide who plays us.

Fair play to the CB or whoever came up with it as it's been a breath of fresh air with keenly contested games but with a lifeline if you do lose a game, not to mention pretty good crowds and atmosphere with the CB now picking up four gates as opposed to the normal two.

Next stage for this to progress is to get a few amalgamations to add to the mix a spread senior hurling into other areas of the county.

It's all got a bit messy it seems....

Ballycran have objected to the extra time saying that the rules of the championship are for a round robin and that the draw should have stood, Down CCC have initially rejected that and its went to Ulster, who've asked Down to look at it again. Down have allegedly looked at it again and aren't for changing their minds. Ballycran have taken it back to Ulster  who're to pass judgement on Thursday evening.

Down CB have never published the rules of the way the senior championship were to be run that's true, but it was asked at a few CB meetings as to what would happen in the event of a draw and the county secretary made it clear that extra time was to be played as a winner was needed to be known, something he reiterated over the phone to the Ballycran county delegate, their secretary and our secretary (who is also our county delegate) in the middle of Portaferry's pitch when the normal time outcome was a draw.

My issue is that if they felt so strongly about it, why did they not take their players off the pitch and not partake in the extra time?
This could all go pete tong if its not sorted out to the satisfaction of everyone...

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28606 on: September 05, 2017, 10:16:44 AM »
SFC semi final; castlewellan v burren, kilcoo v rgu/bholland

IFC rostrevor v leitrim, annaclone v drumaness

Missed JFC draw sorry  :-\

JFC

Dromara v Bright/Ardglass
Dundrum v Kilclief

 :-\ bright won this one
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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28607 on: September 05, 2017, 12:28:06 PM »
Can anyone explain how relegation from the SFC works?

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28608 on: September 05, 2017, 02:58:10 PM »
Can anyone explain how relegation from the SFC works?

Top 15 teams based on league standings from 2017, plus the winners of Intermediate Championship for 2017 go into Senior Championship in 2018.  Simples.

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28609 on: September 05, 2017, 04:01:14 PM »
They have great players in maginn mckibbon savage bonny downey toner Reid to name a few
A team with those players should be doing better than what they do.
Will hammer poor teams but crumble against the big boys
Sure CPN beat them with all these great players playing and the look what happened to them against Loughisland

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« Reply #28610 on: September 05, 2017, 04:53:16 PM »
They should have been 7/8 points up at HT
I just think for the players they have that they have badly underachieved in championship football this past 10 years
Some great teams but can never produce the goods when it really matters
An underachieving club

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28611 on: September 05, 2017, 10:30:42 PM »
SFC semi final; castlewellan v burren, kilcoo v rgu/bholland

IFC rostrevor v leitrim, annaclone v drumaness

Missed JFC draw sorry  :-\

JFC

Dromara v Bright/Ardglass
Dundrum v Kilclief

 :-\ bright won this one

I believe Ardglass have raised an objection regarding Bright playing an ineligible player in the last few minutes of the game.

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« Reply #28612 on: September 06, 2017, 09:10:13 AM »
SFC semi final; castlewellan v burren, kilcoo v rgu/bholland

IFC rostrevor v leitrim, annaclone v drumaness

Missed JFC draw sorry  :-\

JFC

Dromara v Bright/Ardglass
Dundrum v Kilclief

 :-\ bright won this one

I believe Ardglass have raised an objection regarding Bright playing an ineligible player in the last few minutes of the game.


Bright fielded an underage player - County Board said match is to be replayed like it was in the case of Teconnaught and St.Pauls last year when an underage player was fielded. However Ardglass are refusing to replay match.

By rights Bright should be excluded they broke a well known rule

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28613 on: September 06, 2017, 03:07:46 PM »
SFC semi final; castlewellan v burren, kilcoo v rgu/bholland

IFC rostrevor v leitrim, annaclone v drumaness

Missed JFC draw sorry  :-\

JFC

Dromara v Bright/Ardglass
Dundrum v Kilclief

 :-\ bright won this one

I believe Ardglass have raised an objection regarding Bright playing an ineligible player in the last few minutes of the game.


Bright fielded an underage player - County Board said match is to be replayed like it was in the case of Teconnaught and St.Pauls last year when an underage player was fielded. However Ardglass are refusing to replay match.

By rights Bright should be excluded they broke a well known rule

Harsh lesson but the rules are rules. was same player played throughout league too I wonder ?
agree it should be disqualification but precedent must have been set last year
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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28614 on: September 07, 2017, 01:39:04 AM »
If you break the rules you should be fired out if the championship.if you play illegal players during the league then you lose the points. If this is not nipped in the bud then everyone will be trying it and if you get caught , you get a replay.

Rules are rules

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28615 on: September 07, 2017, 08:48:41 AM »
If you break the rules you should be fired out if the championship.if you play illegal players during the league then you lose the points. If this is not nipped in the bud then everyone will be trying it and if you get caught , you get a replay.

Rules are rules

A replay isn't a big enough deterrent. Game should be awarded to the opposition irrespective of it being league or championship.

 

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28616 on: September 07, 2017, 09:41:00 AM »
Ardglass offered the replay to Bright and county board agreed to it. ardglass could of withheld the objection and bright would of been disqualified.

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28617 on: September 07, 2017, 09:49:20 AM »
In that case, fair play to Ardglass

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28618 on: September 07, 2017, 01:17:54 PM »
In that case, fair play to Ardglass

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #28619 on: September 07, 2017, 05:40:30 PM »
Next year I think it's time to let seconds teams into Div 4. There are teams in Down who would be well capable of fielding two squads every Friday night.  Kilcoo, Bridge, Ford, Clonduff and ourselves would definitely be able to. I think teams would embrace the challenges. The Premier reserve league has only 11 games this year.