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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by redzone on Today at 07:56:09 PM »
in the last 15 years or so Tyrone won 4 all ireland minor titles also got beat in a final, under 21's won one all ireland and lost one, St Pats Dungannon and Omagh CBS won hogan cups, We won 3 All ireland vocational school at county level,St Cairan Ballygawley and Holy Trinity Cookstown won all ireland's..... So we have plenty to be chewing on...... I remember in 2008 our county chairman at the time said the conveyor belt of talent was frightening..... where did it go too!!!
???? We have won 3 all Ireland seniors thas last 15 years.
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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« Last post by Lar Naparka on Today at 07:52:57 PM »
Well why then are the statutory authorities not all over it and the Church being pulled apart for non compliance?
Fair question, Tony.

Because firstly the paperwork meets minimum safeguarding standards and the Church has used its legal resources to ensure that it cannot be sued by victims as all procedures are in place. However, while the alleged offender is stood down, two things happen:

1. If any action is taken it proceeds at a glacial pace with no referral to civil authorities and the main activity is to manage the media fallout to protect the reputation of the Church. Foot dragging of the worst order occurs. Look at the Finnegan case to see how long it took for the Church to deal with the matter and reach some conclusion for one victim of the many who have come forward.

2. No action is taken and the alleged abuser is left in limbo at least for many years and what looks left indefinitely, there are numerous examples of this across the country.  In every diocese there are priests who have been removed from frontline duty with no explanation and have been put into apparent exile for years.  However, in some cases the priest has refused to leave the parochial house and the parish is not informed what has been happening in reaching a conclusion.

This is not proper safeguarding procedures nor is it any form of natural justice for alleged abuser or the victims. However, it meets minimum standards as far as preventing any legal action against the Church being taken.

Have you recent evidence of the Church not following policy and procedures?

Another thing why should the Church be liable for the  actions of perverts masquerading as Priests? Were Peter Sutcliffe's employers open to be sued because he raped and killed winning while lorry driving?

No they werenít.
If it was proved that they knew very well what he was doing and decided to do nothing about it, you would have another scenario. Furthermore, if it was transpired that his employers moved him from one place to another in order to obstruct the course of justice and refused actively to co-operate with the police but rather tried to obstruct them at every turn, a case could be made that they were guilty by association. (Not sure of the legal term here. Owen??)
To cap it all, if his employers approached his victims or their relatives and offered cash settlements in return for their decision not to press changes, the b**tards would/ should stand in the same dock as Sutcliffe.

PS I have read that Brady forked out a total of 55 million euro in out of court settlements in order to prevent cases going to court. Care to comment on that?
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by bigtogs on Today at 07:51:37 PM »
in the last 15 years or so Tyrone won 4 all ireland minor titles also got beat in a final, under 21's won one all ireland and lost one, St Pats Dungannon and Omagh CBS won hogan cups, We won 3 All ireland vocational school at county level,St Cairan Ballygawley and Holy Trinity Cookstown won all ireland's..... So we have plenty to be chewing on...... I remember in 2008 our county chairman at the time said the conveyor belt of talent was frightening..... where did it go too!!!
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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Last post by theticklemister on Today at 07:49:20 PM »
Wile wind altogether and nowhere to take a shit
2 things you're full of

Thatís a good wan Shantygael, I like it!!

Iím full of knowledge too the odd time to be fair. See you at the side of some pitch come Easter time!
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GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 4
« Last post by Catch and Kick on Today at 07:45:46 PM »
Round 4 coming up. You'd have to fancy Antrim to bounce back from dropping a point to Wicklow and now beat London comfortably. They are unlikely to get caught a second time.
Laois have impressed under Sugrue; he has revitalised the older players and brought in hungry younger lads to fight for those starting jerseys. Cannot see Wicklow being within 8-10 points of them even in Aughrim.
Carlow may be sitting on top of the table but who have they beaten?? Leitrim, Limerick and London. nothing to get excited about. Waterford are capable of so much more - a big team with good ball players. That will be tight and I go for Waterford here.
Leitrim and Limerick have nothing but pride to play for and Limerick should prevail.
I fancy Laois to wrap up the division early and blood more players before the championship opener v Wexford. O Carroll and Lowry stood out of rUCD throughout the Sigerson campaign and have really strengthened the forward division.
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General discussion / Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
« Last post by thebar on Today at 07:31:40 PM »
Great too see, get these head cases locked up no need for these guys on the streets, they offer nothing to society.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by southtyronegael on Today at 07:30:28 PM »
I see we have emailgate, FBI may be called in Roisin suing over email sent to newstalk over affairs at CB level in 2017.
care to elaborate on this?
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General discussion / Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
« Last post by brokencrossbar1 on Today at 07:12:38 PM »
Surprise surprise.Why does the establishment want to see the demise of these groups?

Because they are criminals who are impeding the real investigations that are ongoing.
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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Last post by shantygael on Today at 07:10:57 PM »
Wile wind altogether and nowhere to take a shit
2 things you're full of
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