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Title: Kevin McStay
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2018, 08:56:52 PM
Gobshite!

Massive ban coming his way. Pushed a linesman and then threw a ball at his head hitting him.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 09:11:07 PM
Absolutely, should be a year ban for the likes of that
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Hound on July 21, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
He'll resign before the Dubs game.  Cameras caught him solid. Be interesting to see if RTE analysts go after him hard.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: clarshack on July 21, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
I remember him being very critical of Derrytresk's behaviour back in 2012. What a Twat!
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: rodney trotter on July 21, 2018, 09:20:19 PM
He doesn't look up to it as Inter county manager. Mayo hammered Roscommon last year in the replay quarter final ,and they had no defense plan this year. Then kicking in ball today to one player on 3 backs.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
Branagan is a w**ker. We had a stonewall free before the half.

Three month sideline ban. McStay prefered to be in the stand his first season but the gobshîtes in the county whined about it anyways. Be grand. No interest in this silly season shïte.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 21, 2018, 09:51:42 PM
It will be a straight forward 12 week ban. Hardly makes any difference and he will apologise and there won't be any controversy.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: oliverkelly on July 21, 2018, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
Branagan is a w**ker. We had a stonewall free before the half.

Three month sideline ban. McStay prefered to be in the stand his first season but the gobshîtes in the county whined about it anyways. Be grand. No interest in this silly season shïte.

I agree syf brannigan rode us and it was a disgraceful decision by brannigan but you cant behave like that and he deserves a ban. That said lineman never reported incident pr you would have presumed McStay would be sent to the stands. If he is banned after its a joke when Andy Moran got away with similar earlier in the year. But he deserves a ban and ref needs be stood down
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 21, 2018, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on July 21, 2018, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
Branagan is a w**ker. We had a stonewall free before the half.

Three month sideline ban. McStay prefered to be in the stand his first season but the gobshîtes in the county whined about it anyways. Be grand. No interest in this silly season shïte.

I agree syf brannigan rode us and it was a disgraceful decision by brannigan but you cant behave like that and he deserves a ban. That said lineman never reported incident pr you would have presumed McStay would be sent to the stands. If he is banned after its a joke when Andy Moran got away with similar earlier in the year. But he deserves a ban and ref needs be stood down

In fairness to Andy Moran he had the cop on to realise what he had done right away and rectify the situation.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: weareros on July 21, 2018, 10:01:17 PM
One of the few things McStay got right today. Think it will be at least 6 mts for the man handle  and then hitting the blind linesman with the ball.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 21, 2018, 10:11:06 PM
Ref not a good one; but it was a fair shot with a underhand throw lol
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Jinxy on July 21, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
BBall skillz.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2018, 11:20:05 PM
He can stick his 'engineers of their downfall' quote up his hole
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 21, 2018, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 21, 2018, 09:20:19 PM
He doesn't look up to it as Inter county manager. Mayo hammered Roscommon last year in the replay quarter final ,and they had no defense plan this year. Then kicking in ball today to one player on 3 backs.

He needs help on his management someone better than Liam McHale and stop his stubbornness of thinking he can be competitive against top 8 teams without having any structure or system to his defence.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: omagh_gael on July 22, 2018, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 21, 2018, 11:20:05 PM
He can stick his 'engineers of their downfall' quote up his hole

There'll be no cows milked in the hill tonight.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: dublin7 on July 22, 2018, 01:31:34 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 21, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
He'll resign before the Dubs game.  Cameras caught him solid. Be interesting to see if RTE analysts go after him hard.

It's hard to know. RTE/Spilane hung Connolly out to dry.  Andy Moran didn't even get a mention when he did it so it's hard to tell
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: weareros on July 22, 2018, 03:13:17 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 22, 2018, 01:31:34 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 21, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
He'll resign before the Dubs game.  Cameras caught him solid. Be interesting to see if RTE analysts go after him hard.

It's hard to know. RTE/Spilane hung Connolly out to dry.  Andy Moran didn't even get a mention when he did it so it's hard to tell

Well Sky had the rights to this game and they have been all over it. Just saw the clip which they tweeted and McStay's throw pass was every bit as good as some of Michael Murphy's and just as accurate, beautifully looped, hitting the linesman square on the head. He could still do a job in many forward lines, but might need Brannigan to let that type of play go. James Horan appeared chuffed to call out McStay's illegal pass and had a big grin on his face. No love lost I assume. Speaking of Twiitter, Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, already incensed McStay has not been banned. Some lads never learn with the auld premature Twitteration.

Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: rrhf on July 22, 2018, 12:34:42 PM
I'd say he knows his goose is cooked. Sometimes he just looks like a Mayo man managing Roscommon.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Gay Sheerin must be loving this.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: yellowcard on July 22, 2018, 01:12:11 PM
Charlie Redmond in today's paper:

'Remember last year how they (Sunday Game analysts) hung, drew and quartered Diarmuid Connolly after the gentlest of brushes against a linesman during  Dublin's first round victory over Carlow.

I will be very interested, therefore, to hear how they review their former colleague Kevin McStays behaviour this evening.'

Over to you Pat Spillane now, either that or he is a massive hypocrite.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 22, 2018, 01:12:11 PM
Charlie Redmond in today's paper:

'Remember last year how they (Sunday Game analysts) hung, drew and quartered Diarmuid Connolly after the gentlest of rushes against a linesman during  Dublin's first round victory over Carlow.

I will be very interested, therefore, to hear how they review their former colleague Kevin McStays behaviour this evening.'

Over to you Pat Spillane now, either that or he is a massive hypocrite.

Is Charlie even sure St. Diarmuid pushed him at all?

Throw the book at McStay, a year ban
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: yellowcard on July 22, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 22, 2018, 01:12:11 PM
Charlie Redmond in today's paper:

'Remember last year how they (Sunday Game analysts) hung, drew and quartered Diarmuid Connolly after the gentlest of rushes against a linesman during  Dublin's first round victory over Carlow.

I will be very interested, therefore, to hear how they review their former colleague Kevin McStays behaviour this evening.'

Over to you Pat Spillane now, either that or he is a massive hypocrite.

Is Charlie even sure St. Diarmuid pushed him at all?

Throw the book at McStay, a year ban

I never believed in the 'throw the book' approach aimed at Connolly last year and I think that what McStay done was not much different but I'm merely pointing out the fact that if Spillane doesn't condemn and hang McStay then he is a massive hypocrite.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Itchy on July 22, 2018, 01:25:39 PM
As bad as some officials are they must be protected otherwise you will have no referees at club level. He should get the maximum ban possible within the rules.  McStay always struck me as an arrogant bollox so it will be pleasing to see him put back in his box.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 22, 2018, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 22, 2018, 03:13:17 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 22, 2018, 01:31:34 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 21, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
He'll resign before the Dubs game.  Cameras caught him solid. Be interesting to see if RTE analysts go after him hard.

It's hard to know. RTE/Spilane hung Connolly out to dry.  Andy Moran didn't even get a mention when he did it so it's hard to tell

Well Sky had the rights to this game and they have been all over it. Just saw the clip which they tweeted and McStay's throw pass was every bit as good as some of Michael Murphy's and just as accurate, beautifully looped, hitting the linesman square on the head. He could still do a job in many forward lines, but might need Brannigan to let that type of play go. James Horan appeared chuffed to call out McStay's illegal pass and had a big grin on his face. No love lost I assume. Speaking of Twiitter, Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, already incensed McStay has not been banned. Some lads never learn with the auld premature Twitteration.
Good to  see someone else spotting Murphy throwing the ball around
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 24, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
12 weeks for Kevin. Lucky man.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 24, 2018, 03:16:46 PM
Is this 12 weeks from 'now' or will it go into FBD League/National Leage 2019.

Not much feckin addition if he's not doing anything for (or to, depending on your viewpoint) Roscommon after Sun week.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Syferus on July 24, 2018, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 24, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
12 weeks for Kevin. Lucky man.

As in the rule was applied correctly? Storm in a teapot as I said from square one.

This suspension expires in October, Shamrock.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2018, 03:33:33 PM
You know, there's a way to stop this sort of thing. Put all management team into the stand. Only the doctors/physios allowed.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: mup on July 24, 2018, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 22, 2018, 01:12:11 PM
Charlie Redmond in today's paper:

'Remember last year how they (Sunday Game analysts) hung, drew and quartered Diarmuid Connolly after the gentlest of brushes against a linesman during  Dublin's first round victory over Carlow.

I will be very interested, therefore, to hear how they review their former colleague Kevin McStays behaviour this evening.'

Over to you Pat Spillane now, either that or he is a massive hypocrite.

Ah oul honest Charlie himself. The same Charlie who forgot to leave the field after being sent off.

A proper Charlie.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Lar Naparka on July 24, 2018, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: mup on July 24, 2018, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 22, 2018, 01:12:11 PM
Charlie Redmond in today's paper:

'Remember last year how they (Sunday Game analysts) hung, drew and quartered Diarmuid Connolly after the gentlest of brushes against a linesman during  Dublin's first round victory over Carlow.

I will be very interested, therefore, to hear how they review their former colleague Kevin McStays behaviour this evening.'

Over to you Pat Spillane now, either that or he is a massive hypocrite.

Ah oul honest Charlie himself. The same Charlie who forgot to leave the field after being sent off.

A proper Charlie.
A case of the pot calling the kettle black arse if there ever was one! ;D
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Itchy on July 24, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
A joke of a suspension. But sure what did I expect?
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Syferus on July 24, 2018, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 24, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
A joke of a suspension. But sure what did I expect?

He'll be back on the sideline for the annual beating of Cavan next spring :-*
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: weareros on July 24, 2018, 04:28:20 PM
The challenge now will be to decide which of the 70,000 available seats he should take in Croke Park once the U20 game ends.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 24, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 24, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
12 weeks for Kevin. Lucky man.
Bans like that should be games not weeks and a dozen games away from the sideline might get him to focus on organizing that Roscommon defence?
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: skeog on July 24, 2018, 04:45:40 PM
Does he remain on full pay for the duration?.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Rossfan on July 24, 2018, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: skeog on July 24, 2018, 04:45:40 PM
Does he remain on full pay for the duration?.
He's not paid by the GAA.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2018, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2018, 05:00:32 PM
Is he still allowed a run in the bus?

Yeah but he's not allowed to select the tapes for the stereo.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Found something to fill in the time till 21st October ;D

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-galway-will-push-dublin-but-not-quite-far-enough-1.3592358?mode=amp

(Expecting a Syfattack any second now)
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Found something to fill in the time till 21st October ;D

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-galway-will-push-dublin-but-not-quite-far-enough-1.3592358?mode=amp

(Expecting a Syfattack any second now)

Ros should have beaten Galway. Doesn't bode well for Galway or it says we have more potential than we showed in the Super 8s.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Tubberman on August 11, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Found something to fill in the time till 21st October ;D

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-galway-will-push-dublin-but-not-quite-far-enough-1.3592358?mode=amp

(Expecting a Syfattack any second now)

Ros should have beaten Galway. Doesn't bode well for Galway or it says we have more potential than we showed in the Super 8s.

I'd wager it's the former
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 12:22:06 PM
We were 1 point up v Galway on 65 minutes. We were outscored 5 -0 then so No We Shouldn't have beaten Galway.
Anyway hope they keep it competitive for 60 minutes anyway.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Found something to fill in the time till 21st October ;D

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-galway-will-push-dublin-but-not-quite-far-enough-1.3592358?mode=amp

(Expecting a Syfattack any second now)

Ros should have beaten Galway. Doesn't bode well for Galway or it says we have more potential than we showed in the Super 8s.

I'd wager it's the former

Could you repeat that, I can't hear you from way back in Round 3 of the Qualifiers..
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Found something to fill in the time till 21st October ;D

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-galway-will-push-dublin-but-not-quite-far-enough-1.3592358?mode=amp

(Expecting a Syfattack any second now)

Can you post was is written there. Behind a paywall for me.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 01:02:26 PM
QuoteFor all of the talk about the top four counties in the league having made the All-Ireland semi-finals, I suspect that it's coincidence as much as a reflection of the four definitive, best teams in the country.

All are there on merit after the Super 8s but ask yourself, would Jim Gavin and Dublin have felt relieved if Mayo and Kerry had qualified for the last four instead of any of the teams who actually did? I'm not convinced.

In terms of the quarter-final rounds though you have to acknowledge that Dublin and Galway qualified with a match to spare and Tyrone look the most improved team whereas Monaghan probably picked up most momentum over the three rounds of the Super 8s.

My first thoughts on Saturday's semi-final, and having faced both teams this season, are that I'd like to fly a flag for Galway who have got some very rough treatment since losing at home to Monaghan.

Overall they have had their best summer and perhaps best team since 2001. They lost a competitive league final to Dublin after being unbeaten in the regulation matches, recaptured the Connacht title and reached a first All-Ireland semi-final in 17 years.

They play a Dublin team at a different point in their development, at the top of the cycle heading for four-in-a-row while Kevin Walsh is effectively just two years into his project with the defensive system.

When you change styles, you're always on trial with your supporters. It's fine as long as you're winning but as soon as you lose a major match playing defensively – and last week was only their second defeat all year – it can be a difficult week or two afterwards.

Of course it wasn't just any match and it meant that they're the only semi-finalist coming in with a loss of momentum.


Their current lull in my view relates to three key players – Damien Comer and Johnny Heaney, whose form has dipped maybe as a result of the efforts in the league – and Paul Conroy, who picked up a dreadful injury and has been a very good utility player in the middle third.


Touching distance

The net effect is that they're not scoring enough and that's a difficulty for the weekend, as they will need everyone to step up in terms of scoring.

The depth of Dublin's resources were on show last week, as we discovered, but that was well known. They're definitely looking for this last 20 minutes that everyone's talking about – Tyrone especially in the last week.

Galway should have a real go at Dublin's kick-outs, aggressive man-to-man on the Dublin kick-out and 'cheating' off your man to see if you can cover just a bit more than him. It's hugely demanding physically but also mentally because of the concentration levels required.

You can't even celebrate a score because the restarts come so quickly that you can't spare even seconds. You can do it on your own scores but won't be able to do it on both wides and scores – it's just too demanding.

That's why teams press on set plays because you have time to push up on the defence before the kick-out. Defences have become so aware of this that the guy picking up the free taker gets as far away from him as possible.

The big target has to be to be within touching distance going into the end phase.

Dublin will stick to their process. Their hard work and ability to execute skills is second nature and you can't see them not being in a fourth successive All-Ireland final.

The prevailing weather played a role when Monaghan beat Tyrone earlier in the season and may again on Sunday. Our group in Roscommon has always used Monaghan as a reference point: population, club profile et cetera and how they have positioned themselves as a top county.

At this stage they are six to eight years in development so they have learned staggering amounts from things like their quarter-final defeats. Even this year, the recovery from the Fermanagh defeat to reaching a first All-Ireland semi-final since the 1980s has been fantastic. Every year they have improved incrementally.

Mature team

Malachy O'Rourke has added dimensions tactically and in recent years, players like Ryan McAnespie and Niall Kearns, but they are also a very mature team with the majority playing well and making big contributions.

Although Conor McManus is the best forward in all of Ireland and recognised as such they are not a team of stars and have excellent players who don't get a lot of attention. Karl O'Connell is someone we'd always focus on if playing them; he has blistering pace, coming off the shoulder on a straight line and a really competitive attitude.

They're also grizzled oul' gauchos at this stage and comfortable with who they are. I expect they'll defend the 'D' as zealously as they can, given that Tyrone don't pose a long-distance threat.

I still think Mickey Harte's team are more likely challengers for Dublin. Their five or six key players have a high level of fitness: Mattie Donnelly, Colm Cavanagh, Pádraig Hampsey, Peter Harte and Conor Meyler would have been another before he got injured.

They've huge energy and big tanks and, similar to Monaghan, they're very comfortable with their system. Add in the timely return of Mark Bradley and Lee Brennan in recent weeks and they're different gravy in terms of ability. They have been subs in recent games only because they were recovering from injury.


People have spoken a lot about the scoring threat off the Tyrone bench but you look for other things as well – assists and steals and tackles and subs that don't turn over the ball. Bradley and Brennan tick all the boxes.

There won't be much to separate the teams. I think there'll be more scores in Tyrone, which will get them home, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Monaghan did it – and what a story that would be.

You're welcome, Cunny.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2018, 01:09:03 PM
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Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 03:35:57 PM
McStay is a good analyst. It is a pity Gaelic is so unequal and Ros so far from the top.
They won their 2 all Irelands under Syferian socialism.
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: weareros on August 11, 2018, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 03:35:57 PM
McStay is a good analyst. It is a pity Gaelic is so unequal and Ros so far from the top.
They won their 2 all Irelands under Syferian socialism.

We are good company with ye so.
McStay good analyst. Interesting to hear him say Galway into year 2 of defensive structure. You just know what's coming next. Roscommon Year 1 of defensive structure in 2019. Year 4 but the new "Year 1" on the Kevineen calendar will be bought hook, line and sinker
Title: Re: Kevin McStay
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 08:09:36 PM
He'll end up staying longer  than Frank Murphy :-\