I hope it's sunny.
Kildare still have it all to play for. Looking forward to a good match.
Tickets on sale online currently.
The Kildare support seems to be disappointed with Sunday but crucially not despondent. Game should sell out and hopefully our lads learn from the Monaghan game, whose set-up was similar to Galway. Galway have better movement but less accuracy. Awful record against Galway, haven't beaten them since 1926 :o league or championship so really up against form and history.
Just hope we die with our boots on.
Don't think it's that long (maybe it's that long in the championship), I'd have to look at the league programme again but I think a Larry Tompkins led Kildare beat Galway in the league in the 80's, that was the last success league or championship though.
As we saw yesterday for both Galway and Limerick, long standing "hoodoos" can bite the dust easily enough if the current team is simply better than the opposition on the day, although hopefully from a Galway perspective our good run against Kildare continues.
How the vagaries of the Super 8s pan out for week 2 will be interesting, Kildare picking themselves up after a loss, Galway trying to refocus straight into another match from the high of breaking both the Kerry and Croke Park jinx.
With Conroy now out for the year and Duggan already unavailable for the foreseeable, the starting midfielders have to go very well for Galway now as the cover is non existent.
Need a decent Galway crowd show up to Newbridge, tickets are easily available at the moment for it.
Got tickets online there for myself and junior - looking forward to seeing a good Galway crowd in Newbridge, no excuses for anything less at this stage. We are on a nice little run now between the football and hurling so hopefully we will get another 6 weeks or so out of it! ;)
Whats the story with all the Galway Gingers? Haven't seen so many soulless on a team before, have you struck a deal with the Devil?
How come Kildare have no bald lads playing anymore?
I miss Davy Dalton.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2018, 01:48:20 PM
Whats the story with all the Galway Gingers? Haven't seen so many soulless on a team before, have you struck a deal with the Devil?
There's a few more gingers coming through the pipeline on the underage teams too.
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Whats the story with all the Galway Gingers? Haven't seen so many soulless on a team before, have you struck a deal with the Devil?
There's a few more gingers coming through the pipeline on the underage teams too.
An ounce of breeding is worth a ton of feeding.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 16, 2018, 02:00:02 PM
How come Kildare have no bald lads playing anymore?
We were probably the baldiest team in Ireland in Geezers time.
#newbridgeornohair
;D
1st set of online tickets sold out. Good sign, would be a pity if this game didn't sell out.
Sean Hurson Tyrone will take charge of Kildare v Galway on Sunday. It will be his 3rd time to referee Kildare & the 1st time in championship. Previous games were Kildare v Galway NFL Tuam 2015 & Derry NFL in Celtic Park 2017
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 16, 2018, 12:21:28 PM
Don't think it's that long (maybe it's that long in the championship), I'd have to look at the league programme again but I think a Larry Tompkins led Kildare beat Galway in the league in the 80's, that was the last success league or championship though.
As we saw yesterday for both Galway and Limerick, long standing "hoodoos" can bite the dust easily enough if the current team is simply better than the opposition on the day, although hopefully from a Galway perspective our good run against Kildare continues.
How the vagaries of the Super 8s pan out for week 2 will be interesting, Kildare picking themselves up after a loss, Galway trying to refocus straight into another match from the high of breaking both the Kerry and Croke Park jinx.
With Conroy now out for the year and Duggan already unavailable for the foreseeable, the starting midfielders have to go very well for Galway now as the cover is non existent.
Need a decent Galway crowd show up to Newbridge, tickets are easily available at the moment for it.
You are right, Feb 1985 in the NFL. Just the 33 years.
Kildare pick up any injuries last Sunday? Is Feely still not 100% fit?
It will be interesting to see how Galway go this weekend after the high of last week v Kerry. Mentally tough to peak for 2 games in a week. Same challenge for all super 8 teams though! For Galways sake, I hope it's not a case of after the Lord mayors show!
I think this will be a tight one for Galway. When the game opens up Kildare will drive at Galway in a way Mayo did and Kerry didn't. Still feel Galway will get over the line but it could be closer than many think.
If Galway and Monaghan win this Group is over, although both will want to avoid Dublin in the semi so their game might be competitive enough.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
If Galway and Monaghan win this Group is over, although both will want to avoid Dublin in the semi so their game might be competitive enough.
I don't think Monaghan will beat Kerry. Their quarter final record for the last few years has been poor
But none of them games were in CLONES!!
Kerry won't know what planet they're on by the time they find their way there :D
Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2018, 05:33:44 PM
But none of them games were in CLONES!!
Kerry won't know what planet they're on by the time they find their way there :D
I always think Clones should be in Tyrone.
Will be interesting to see how Kildare fare in this game as they aren't as conditioned like the top teams are and this will be their 5th game in 5 weeks and they are now coming off the back of defeat. The siege mentally they had for the Mayo game won't be there for this game and I highly doubt Galway's defence are going to give away 21 scores in this game.
All logic points to a Galway win but under the circumstances a win for Kildare in this game would be ranked higher than their win over Mayo IMO.
Galway are ranked 2nd for Sam. Kildare are ranked 7th.
I think Kildare will be happy with getting to the Super 8 stage. Galway want to get to a semi at least.
One change for Galway, Peter Cooke in for Conroy as expected. Couple of positional switches also
1. Ruairi Lavelle
2. Declan Kyne
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. Eoghan Kerin
5. Cathal Sweeney
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Peter Cooke
9. Thomas Flynn
10. Michael Daly
11. Shane Walsh
12. Seán Kelly
13. Ian Burke
14. Damien Comer
15. Eamonn Brannigan
Quote from: seafoid on July 20, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Galway are ranked 2nd for Sam. Kildare are ranked 7th.
I think Kildare will be happy with getting to the Super 8 stage. Galway want to get to a semi at least.
Blue pills can help with that.
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 20, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
One change for Galway, Peter Cooke in for Conroy as expected. Couple of positional switches also
1. Ruairi Lavelle
2. Declan Kyne
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. Eoghan Kerin
5. Cathal Sweeney
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Peter Cooke
9. Thomas Flynn
10. Michael Daly
11. Shane Walsh
12. Seán Kelly
13. Ian Burke
14. Damien Comer
15. Eamonn Brannigan
O'Neill has named same, would be surprised if they all start.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 20, 2018, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 20, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
One change for Galway, Peter Cooke in for Conroy as expected. Couple of positional switches also
1. Ruairi Lavelle
2. Declan Kyne
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. Eoghan Kerin
5. Cathal Sweeney
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Peter Cooke
9. Thomas Flynn
10. Michael Daly
11. Shane Walsh
12. Seán Kelly
13. Ian Burke
14. Damien Comer
15. Eamonn Brannigan
O'Neill has named same, would be surprised if they all start.
I can't see any changes myself. Maybe Feely might struggle to play through injury again but O'Neill has been very averse to making any changes even after defeats. None of the usual subs did much against Monaghan either.
If he goes with the same 15 I think that is madness, you can't talk mental fatigue and then not introduce a freshness with 2 or 3 changes. Whatever about the subs making an impact what did the 2 Cribbens and Brophy do to be retained?
Would totally agree that that - think we need an injection of energy and slattery, McNally and Kelly should all be in the reckoning
Quote from: del_carroll on July 21, 2018, 09:35:57 AM
Would totally agree that that - think we need an injection of energy and slattery, McNally and Kelly should all be in the reckoning
I seem to recall Niall Kelly kicking 5 points from play against us in Croker last year in the division 2 league final.
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 20, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
One change for Galway, Peter Cooke in for Conroy as expected. Couple of positional switches also
1. Ruairi Lavelle
2. Declan Kyne
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. Eoghan Kerin
5. Cathal Sweeney
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Peter Cooke
9. Thomas Flynn
10. Michael Daly
11. Shane Walsh
12. Seán Kelly
13. Ian Burke
14. Damien Comer
15. Eamonn Brannigan
For all the bellyaching about the youth and inexperience of the Kerry lads after last week, that is actually a very young Galway side now that Conroy is off it due to his injury. Bradshaw is the only remaining old head really. 4 of last year's U-21's in there.
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Quote from: Duine Eile on July 20, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
One change for Galway, Peter Cooke in for Conroy as expected. Couple of positional switches also
1. Ruairi Lavelle
2. Declan Kyne
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. Eoghan Kerin
5. Cathal Sweeney
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Peter Cooke
9. Thomas Flynn
10. Michael Daly
11. Shane Walsh
12. Seán Kelly
13. Ian Burke
14. Damien Comer
15. Eamonn Brannigan
For all the bellyaching about the youth and inexperience of the Kerry lads after last week, that is actually a very young Galway side now that Conroy is off it due to his injury. Bradshaw is the only remaining old head really. 4 of last year's U-21's in there.
Youth is over-rated. As was very over-rated by the media this year in regards Kerry. Dublin are continuously blooding a trickle of youth and there is never a headline. You always need a mix of youth and experience to win the Big battles.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 21, 2018, 12:29:51 PM
For all the bellyaching about the youth and inexperience of the Kerry lads after last week, that is actually a very young Galway side now that Conroy is off it due to his injury. Bradshaw is the only remaining old head really. 4 of last year's U-21's in there.
Average age of that Galway team would be 24 what was the average age of the Galway team in 1998? if i recall they had plenty of players that came from the AI minor finalists and Hogan cup winning team from the mid 90s.
The average age of nearly all teams have gone down in recent years. We have had a perpetually 'young' team for a decade now. The danger is always assuming there's ever going to be more than is there already. This sport is designed to turn men with jobs and lives away from it.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0721/980188-all-the-pubs-were-full-it-reminded-me-of-italia-90/
Think Kildare might win this.
M Daly off after 10 mins he doesn't have much luck with injuries. Good game so far serious pace to it. Galway 0-4 Kildare 0-3
Excellent game so far, that point by comer was imo the point of the championship
Is the Kildare goalie wearing his gardening gloves?
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
Quote from: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
Proper game here.
Galway somewhat at sea, so far.
Grand game in fairness. Way too innocent to be of any consequence though.
Quote from: High Fielder on July 22, 2018, 02:26:02 PM
Grand game in fairness. Way too innocent to be of any consequence though.
Yeah not like Galway bet Kerry last week.
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Quote from: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Great stuff so far!
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
If Flynn can dial back his mental exuberance by 20%, and maintain his physical exuberance, he'll be some player.
Kildare need to make hay quickly. They'll be crawling with 15 minutes to go. Unreal pace
He might be the fastest man in fball
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Not the sharpest. Flynn "on his weaker right foot" as he blasta one over from his left foot.
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Is no call for a co-commentator. I find them all grating GAA and soccer...
Aye. It's a right aul game for sure. Dolan is from the Tommy Tom Carr school of commentary
Good game end to end action but one question why are Galway playing without a defensive system today?
You don't need one against Kildare. They obviously fancy themselves
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
Good game end to end action but one question why are Galway playing without a defensive system today?
Galway have 15 men behind the ball a lot of the time, is that not now considered a defensive system?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
Good game end to end action but one question why are Galway playing without a defensive system today?
They are, I just think Kildare matching their style and breaking quick. Also Kildare have an outball in ff line.
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
WAs thinking the same thing.Talks way to much
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Be thankful it's not Ger Canning. Although he'll probably be there next game!
Good first half
Quote from: BennyCake on July 22, 2018, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Be thankful it's not Ger Canning. Although he'll probably be there next game!
Dolan just says nothing, just a pile of usual cliches
Darren Maloney is excellent
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Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Syf, give it a rest for one day.
I'm actually enjoying a game of football.
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Quote from: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Nobody said it was an indication of either teams all ireland credentials - just commenting that its an enjoyable game. have the last 2 weeks made you fall out of love with the game a biteen?
Great reffing. Where's he from?
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Dessie Dolan has a list of cliches that he trots out at random. Usually at an inappropriate time,
Dolan is basically a bluffer. Not able to analyse a game
Quote from: Tubberman on July 22, 2018, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Not the sharpest. Flynn "on his weaker right foot" as he blasta one over from his left foot.
Haha noticed that too. As bad as Dolan is thankfully not listening to Martin Carney.
Quote from: Zulu on July 22, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
Good game end to end action but one question why are Galway playing without a defensive system today?
Galway have 15 men behind the ball a lot of the time, is that not now considered a defensive system?
Giving Kildare shooters acres of space and time on the ball is not defensive system. Kildare could easily have scored about 2-13 in that 1st half. I agree with Tom Parsons I was expecting a much more cagey affair.
Quote from: Mayo Border on July 22, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Carbery on July 22, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
IS Dessie Dolan a bit hard to listen to or is it just my imagination?
Dessie Dolan has a list of cliches that he trots out at random. Usually at an inappropriate time,
Dolan is basically a bluffer. Not able to analyse a game
Is that why Anthony Tohill was jettisoned (basically cliché free)?
Kildare keeper makes an incredible save and Dessie completely ignores it.
Kildare keeper has made some very good saves.
Kildare last number of shots look like tired shots, to be fair to them they have a lot of football played in the last 5 weeks. Still only a 1 point game. Galway 0-12 Kildare 0-11 45 mins played.
Knew Joe McQuillan wasn't on screen enough.
D Flynn straight red for what i'm not sure? uphill task for Kildare now.
The one thing this game didn't need.
McQuillsn centre of attraction once again.
Looked like a striking action.
Comer was fouled twice there and a free out. Ok.
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Quote from: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Nobody said it was an indication of either teams all ireland credentials - just commenting that its an enjoyable game. have the last 2 weeks made you fall out of love with the game a biteen?
How can anyone get excited about any neutral tie in a sport where everyone but one county are no hopers? You're watching 3rd place play-offs, in effect. If your own county is playing you might have more interest but this stuff?
There's not even Mayo flirting with maybe beating the Dubs this year to distract from the post-apocalyptic state of senior IC football.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 03:07:44 PM
The one thing this game didn't need.
So true
The guy that "got decked" was up in a flash.
RTÉ could not show it again.
Kildare tiring noticeably around the middle.
McQuillan trying to make Hurson look bad.
Neil Flynn looking for a 2nd yellow.
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Quote from: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Nobody said it was an indication of either teams all ireland credentials - just commenting that its an enjoyable game. have the last 2 weeks made you fall out of love with the game a biteen?
How can anyone get excited about any neutral tie in a sport where everyone but one county are no hopers? You're watching 3rd place play-offs, in effect. If your own county is playing you might have more interest but this stuff?
There's not even Mayo flirting with maybe beating the Dubs this year to distract from the post-apocalyptic state of senior IC football.
Ok
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Quote from: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Nobody said it was an indication of either teams all ireland credentials - just commenting that its an enjoyable game. have the last 2 weeks made you fall out of love with the game a biteen?
How can anyone get excited about any neutral tie in a sport where everyone but one county are no hopers? You're watching 3rd place play-offs, in effect. If your own county is playing you might have more interest but this stuff?
There's not even Mayo flirting with maybe beating the Dubs this year to distract from the post-apocalyptic state of senior IC football.
Ok
You're welcome.
Ref trying to even up the score by not even giving Comer a free for his goal.
Dessie please shut up,
You are stupid
0-4 to 0-2 in this 2nd half with few highlights. Sending off a turning point but Flynn was stupid.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 03:09:47 PM
Looked like a striking action.
It was caught on the main camera in real time. I rewound it and there was a clear striking action by Flynn and McQuillan was looking straight at it. Brainless (which probably sums up Flynn's contribution today - needs to learn to pass the odd time). I really fancied the lillies for this, but very tough now.
Would need a better angle of the sending off incident to see if the Galway lad hammed it up, but striking incident was clear enough
McQuillan in full make up for the red card mode.
Kildare 0-10 in the first 30 minutes. The next 30 minutes just 0-3.
Kildare should stick a target man inside now.
Keep the Galway defenders honest.
How is that not a black card for Kerrin having given one to Brannigan five minutes ago for committing the exact same foul?
Comer not getting too many fouls here.
This will be heartbreaking for Kildare if they lose by 1 or 2 points.
One point game again. If Kildare lose narrowly they will be cursing that sending off.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 22, 2018, 03:24:56 PM
Comer not getting too many fouls here.
Makes up for the ones never given against him for all the charging he does.
Now that's a black card
Quote from: gallsman on July 22, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
How is that not a black card for Kerrin having given one to Brannigan five minutes ago for committing the exact same foul?
Haha, and now he gives one for the same foul on Kerrin.
Greedy from Comer. Had a free man either side of him.
69 mins gone Kildare 0-16 Galway 0-17. Should be plenty of injury time.
Comer suffers badly from Aidan O'Shea syndrome.
That was disgraceful from Comer.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 22, 2018, 03:29:25 PM
Greedy from Comer. Had a free man either side of him.
Equally greedy and stupid.
Kildare need a goal and they cannot cough up possession now.
They won't get it back.
FT Kildare 0-16 Galway 0-19. Kildare out of the championship but died with their boots on. Galway far from impressive today but into the semi final and will know todays performance won't be good enough to win that semi final.
Considering the sending off black cards
4 mins seem a bit light
What might have been.
Great old game that.
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Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Nobody said it was an indication of either teams all ireland credentials - just commenting that its an enjoyable game. have the last 2 weeks made you fall out of love with the game a biteen?
How can anyone get excited about any neutral tie in a sport where everyone but one county are no hopers? You're watching 3rd place play-offs, in effect. If your own county is playing you might have more interest but this stuff?
There's not even Mayo flirting with maybe beating the Dubs this year to distract from the post-apocalyptic state of senior IC football.
Ok
You're welcome.
Ref trying to even up the score by not even giving Comer a free for his goal.
Will you take one day off polutting the board with your nonsense. We can't even enjoy a good game of football for what it is, a good stand alone game of football, without your nonsense.
So Kildare need Kerry to win to keep their chances alive
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 22, 2018, 03:36:28 PM
Great old game that.
Yep. The keep ball of the modern game might mean we get very few genuine classics again but it was a very good game.
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Hugely enjoyable game in a great atmosphere
It sounds like a random League of Ireland tie?
its great stuff you miserable hoor
Ehh. I saw us being praised after the Armagh game and look what happened. It looks like two no hopers going toe-to-toe to my eyes. Just because Kildare beat ye it doesn't meant they're up to much.
Nobody said it was an indication of either teams all ireland credentials - just commenting that its an enjoyable game. have the last 2 weeks made you fall out of love with the game a biteen?
How can anyone get excited about any neutral tie in a sport where everyone but one county are no hopers? You're watching 3rd place play-offs, in effect. If your own county is playing you might have more interest but this stuff?
There's not even Mayo flirting with maybe beating the Dubs this year to distract from the post-apocalyptic state of senior IC football.
Ok
You're welcome.
Ref trying to even up the score by not even giving Comer a free for his goal.
Will you take one day off polutting the board with your nonsense. We can't even enjoy a good game of football for what it is, a good stand alone game of football, without your nonsense.
Well done on buying another AI, Zu-bo.
The type of contribution we've all come to expect from you.
Quote from: Hound on July 22, 2018, 03:39:40 PM
So Kildare need Kerry to win to keep their chances alive
Could easily head into the last round with Kerry, Monaghan & Kildare all having a shot at 2nd place.
Quote from: Zulu on July 22, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
The type of contribution we've all come to expect from you.
Do you actually think you have a good reputation on this forum or something?
A fine game and you'd expect the next game to be just as good. Kildare with good U17 and U20 teams coming through should be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years.
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Quote from: Zulu on July 22, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
The type of contribution we've all come to expect from you.
Do you actually think you have a good reputation on this forum or something?
I don't know. In fact the only poster who we all know definitely doesn't is yourself.
Last thing a team that played 5 games in 5 weeks wanted was a sending off after 47 minutes. With 15 men and if they were fresher Kildare would have won that game. I can't see Galway playing as loose in defence for their semi final it will be back to a full defensive system for them.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Last thing a team that played 5 games in 5 weeks wanted was a sending off after 47 minutes. With 15 men and if they were fresher Kildare would have won that game.
Equally had Galway taken their goal chances they would have been out of sight. Kildare keeper made some fantastic saves and Comer blew a 3 on 1.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 22, 2018, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Last thing a team that played 5 games in 5 weeks wanted was a sending off after 47 minutes. With 15 men and if they were fresher Kildare would have won that game.
Equally had Galway taken their goal chances they would have been out of sight. Kildare keeper made some fantastic saves and Comer blew a 3 on 1.
If Galway took some of the load of chances missed after the red they'd have been well out of sight, always felt they were fairly comfortable in control
Frustration again for the second week running. Feely's lack of fitness has killed us in these first two rounds. If we had him out around the middle for the full 70 we would be winning more contested kickouts. Nearly every single one landing down Moolick's flank ended up with a Galway free for some reason. We might as well give Fionn Dowling or Packie Connell a go down in Killarney and get Feely right for next year.
I haven't watched it back but if Dan Flynn lashed out then we can have no complaints. Backs were hanging out of him all game but the only way to answer that carry on is on the scoreboard. Paddy Brophy had his best game in a long while and he needs to find that form consistently in the long term.
Hopefully this run will bring Kildare on and we get everyone back on board again next year. Leper might call it a day but there's plenty of football left in Peter Kelly and Keith Cribbin. McCormack committing would be a big boost and a close eye is kept on the county championship to try and find a few more like Kevin Flynn and James Murray. A few of the u20 team will add a bit more depth to the panel. Dempsey and Hyland being the two obvious candidates.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 22, 2018, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Last thing a team that played 5 games in 5 weeks wanted was a sending off after 47 minutes. With 15 men and if they were fresher Kildare would have won that game.
Equally had Galway taken their goal chances they would have been out of sight. Kildare keeper made some fantastic saves and Comer blew a 3 on 1.
If Galway took some of the load of chances missed after the red they'd have been well out of sight, always felt they were fairly comfortable in control
Both sides missed a glut of chances. Galway rarely looked in control in that game never mind comfortable and the sending off was a huge help to edging a close contest.
Nonsense, Galway should have won that pulling up, terrible wides in the 2nd half while owning the ball.
Galway missed 4 clear goal chances, and had another disallowed, how many did Kildare miss? Bar the crazy chance from Lavelle losing the flight of the ball?
Galway aren't in the semi final yet. It's not looking like Kerry will beat Monaghan but if they do Galway could go out with a loss next weekend
Quote from: ONeill on July 22, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Great reffing. Where's he from?
Indeed. Did paddy tally get a lift down with him from galbally
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Quote from: ONeill on July 22, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Great reffing. Where's he from?
Indeed. Did paddy tally get a lift down with him from galbally
Anybody trying to claim that referee favorited us is talking absolute shite.
So all to play for still.kerry at home to an out of it kildare so scoring difference will be a big plus for kerry who will end up with 3pts.
Galway are through on 4pts
Monaghan on 3pts need to draw or win against Galway it will be some battle.galway trying to avoid the dubs Monaghan fighting to stay in the c/ship.
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Quote from: redzone on July 22, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 22, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Great reffing. Where's he from?
Indeed. Did paddy tally get a lift down with him from galbally
Anybody trying to claim that referee favorited us is talking absolute shite.
The ref was good bar kickouts where Galway created chaos with illegal blockers and screens. The number of decisions going against Kildare in these exchanges was comical. Clever from Galway though. Dan lashed out, didn't make much contact, was done for intent seemingly.
Feeley's last attempt to draw us level and he was blocked down summed up Kildare in the super 8, poor decisions at key moments. We are losing but losing better. I think O'Neill is moving on, next manager in has some good tools to work with, still a very young side.
Best of luck to Galway in the semis, good support today.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 05:21:31 PM
Galway aren't in the semi final yet. It's not looking like Kerry will beat Monaghan but if they do Galway could go out with a loss next weekend
Kerry have 1 point. Galway have 4.
Quote from: redzone on July 22, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 22, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Great reffing. Where's he from?
Indeed. Did paddy tally get a lift down with him from galbally
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O'Ceallaigh should have been off at the start, it was a proper punch. Cribbin didn't have the nous to lie down though and the umpires and linesmen refused to look at Galways antics all day.
Overall Galway deserved their win even if they don't look like the second best team in the country, Kildare showed heart which is probably enough at the moment. Hopefully we can evolve next season under new management and a reinforced squad.
There also seemed to be a bigger crowd there than the Mayo game if that was possible.
Damien Comer slowly reaching Aidan O'Shea levels of needing to be the victim of GBH in order to win a free.
Any news on Daly's injury. Poor lad started with 2 excellent points before the injury bug struck him again.
Damien Comer slowly reaching Aidan O'Shea levels of pretending to be the victim of GBH in order to win a free.
When he charges are you meant to jump out of the way. It was one area where Hurson was consistent for both teams in that he didn't give any soft frees to ball carriers.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 22, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
Damien Comer slowly reaching Aidan O'Shea levels of needing to be the victim of GBH in order to win a free.
Maybe if stopped throwing himself to the ground, his soft ones made up for his hard done by ones. Dan Flynn on the other hand...
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
Damien Comer slowly reaching Aidan O'Shea levels of pretending to be the victim of GBH in order to win a free.
If the ref won't give you a free when you are being clearly fouled then you do what you have to make it even more obvious to him.
What about the times when he clearly ISN'T being fouled and he just throws himself on the ground?
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 06:24:07 PM
What about the times when he clearly ISN'T being fouled and he just throws himself on the ground?
Well I'll put it like this. At one stage today he was fouled once by one player and immediately fouled a second time by another. He stayed on his feet and rattled the ball to the roof of the net. Ref awards a free out for steps. I imagine in his position that is pretty frustrating.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
Damien Comer slowly reaching Aidan O'Shea levels of pretending to be the victim of GBH in order to win a free.
He's fucked either way now, he's not getting anywhere near the amount of clear fouls he's due so he's exaggerating any contact, not great to see but if he got all the frees he's actually due maybe he wouldn't need to try and manufacture them.
He has plenty of other issues far more pressing from a Galway point of view to smarten up on, not passing that ball for the 3 on 1 chance was pure greed, a Dublin player would never do it if in the same position.
Galway getting a bit of stick in here too, wtf are ye going on about slating Damien comer , funny how jinxy ya throw in the aul Aido reference too. The irony of it all , the likes of Comer and Aido get f**k all from referees , in fairness it's not as bad the last couple of seasons with Aido but wow there were years in 13/14/15 where the man was busted kicked pulled and dragged out of and nothing ,there were times in the 15 semi final v dubs when he went in on top of the square it was fooking unbearable to watch from the stands ., It was so blatantly obvious he was been fouled . Donaghy too gets it even today . There is an attitude out there just because they are very difficult to disposess it gives a player the right to foul. " Ah sure a lad that size shouldn't be bullied like that "
Anyway well done Galway , a little concerning over the missed chances but the only team I think when at full tilt could trouble the dubs in a final . Best of the rest will be blown away in croker . Fitness levels really going to come into play for semis and final.
Comer isn't daft but I'd like to know which free he 'won' today? On at least two occasions he should have had frees inside the D today and what about the two ridiculous frees Kildare got right at the beginning of the game where I think one of the Cribbins were supposedly fouled and the one near the end where Flynn just ran into trouble.
You'd think Kildare were angelic judging by social media, funny hearing Dessie moaning about Shane Walsh creating his goal chance because of him fouling his man yet totally ignoring that the Kildare man had initiated it. Galway are well schooled under Tally but its only what are All Ireland Champions have been up to for years.
Galway looked very comfortable inside the opening ten mins and if Sweeney had burried that chance we'd have been 5 points clear, Daly going off was a big blow; He'd started the game brilliantly. He works hards but at this level P Sweeney lacks quality, apart from those 2 bad misses he gave another ridiculous pass to a player not even looking at him.
Kevin Walsh will be disappointed Galway didn't win that game by 7 or 8 points, were 4 points up and cruising but let Kildare back into it with a lot of really poor misses. Kickouts not as good today, the size of that pitch makes it easier to press them.
Ahh now maroon manc think this Sweeney thing has got inside your head , she was only having the craic.
Another good win today's and 16 scores from play is a very good return anytime - well spread too across the entire team. Plenty to work on also from a Galway perspective. Another 3 - 4 very good goal chances spurned today and also a few poor wides again this week - must be a lot more clinical from here on out and I expect DC will be getting a red ear for KW about his decision making! In fairness to him he was probably well frustrated at that stage of the game - finds its more difficult than other teammates to win frees!! With us already qualified for the semis, it will be interesting to see what team we start in Salthill considering the semifinal is the following weekend. I expect that a few key players may be rested? Hope Daly is ok, he has had enough injury issues this year and he was really at it from the start today kicking 2 great points. Great atmosphere in Newbridge today and a thoroughly enjoyable game of football - some contrast to last weekends arm wrestle!!
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 22, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Comer isn't daft but I'd like to know which free he 'won' today? On at least two occasions he should have had frees inside the D today and what about the two ridiculous frees Kildare got right at the beginning of the game where I think one of the Cribbins were supposedly fouled and the one near the end where Flynn just ran into trouble.
You'd think Kildare were angelic judging by social media, funny hearing Dessie moaning about Shane Walsh creating his goal chance because of him fouling his man yet totally ignoring that the Kildare man had initiated it. Galway are well schooled under Tally but its only what are All Ireland Champions have been up to for years.
Galway looked very comfortable inside the opening ten mins and if Sweeney had burried that chance we'd have been 5 points clear, Daly going off was a big blow; He'd started the game brilliantly. He works hards but at this level P Sweeney lacks quality, apart from those 2 bad misses he gave another ridiculous pass to a player not even looking at him.
Kevin Walsh will be disappointed Galway didn't win that game by 7 or 8 points, were 4 points up and cruising but let Kildare back into it with a lot of really poor misses. Kickouts not as good today, the size of that pitch makes it easier to press them.
Kick outs not as good and took Lavelle a lot longer to kick them out too but we were playing with a new midfield partnership and it took them a long time to get into the game, we really missed Cooke's energy in the second half when we're used to seeing him come on. How Patrick Sweeney is still making that panel ahead of others is unbelievable, at least 3 Kildare scores came from silly mistakes or misplaced passes. Good to see FÓC back to full health after his leg break but don't think he suits Galway's game at the minute. Good win but plenty of work to do before Monaghan. I presume we'll be going all out to win this one to top the group.
Cian o Neill whinging about the red. Sorry Cian, getting a tired of you playing the victim. That was as clear a red as you'd ever see.
Quote from: Itchy on July 22, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Cian o Neill whinging about the red. Sorry Cian, getting a tired of you playing the victim. That was as clear a red as you'd ever see.
What are your opinions on O'Ceallaigh's punch on Cribbin?
Thought Galway were slightly the better team, but the sending off was critical; not sure why the Galway lad didn't get a black card for the same incident
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 22, 2018, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 22, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Cian o Neill whinging about the red. Sorry Cian, getting a tired of you playing the victim. That was as clear a red as you'd ever see.
What are your opinions on O'Ceallaigh's punch on Cribbin?
Didnt see it.
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It was a clear strike at the throw in at the start of the game, umpires ignored it and it set the theme for the game. Dan Flynn returned to FF after the throw in and was dogged off the ball for the rest of the game until he struck out. It seems to be a theme from other reports of Galway games but they are getting away with it.
I know Cian O'Neill can be an excuse maker but his frustrations today were understandable.
It was ever thus.
Backs know how to get away with this kind of thing, forwards get frustrated and lash out.
It's still a deserved red card.
Cian O'Neill would want to ditch the whinging, he's been at it a lot already this year.
Fair enough if a Galway player deserved a red card for another incident and you want to decry the lack of consistency in decisions, work away there but cut the bullshit when it's your own player who has let you down, it was a clear red card.
The notion that Kildare were as white as their jerseys today in terms of the off the ball stuff should be laughable to anyone actually at the match, the Kildare 25 was only spared a red card for assaulting Varley in injury time because the full time whistle went.
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It was a clear strike at the throw in at the start of the game, umpires ignored it and it set the theme for the game. Dan Flynn returned to FF after the throw in and was dogged off the ball for the rest of the game until he struck out. It seems to be a theme from other reports of Galway games but they are getting away with it.
I know Cian O'Neill can be an excuse maker but his frustrations today were understandable.
Have you a video of that? A still photo proves nothing. Based on the photo alone you could argue that he has a grip of his shirt by the collar rather than he hit him a dig, especially as throwing a dig with your first at that angle would be as likely to break your wrist as hurt the other lad.
It must be extremely galling for Mayo supporters to see Galway succeeding where they failed.
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It was a clear strike at the throw in at the start of the game, umpires ignored it and it set the theme for the game. Dan Flynn returned to FF after the throw in and was dogged off the ball for the rest of the game until he struck out. It seems to be a theme from other reports of Galway games but they are getting away with it.
I know Cian O'Neill can be an excuse maker but his frustrations today were understandable.
What am I supposed to be seeing here, he has a hold of his jerseys goes on in every arm
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 22, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
It must be extremely galling for Mayo supporters to see Galway succeeding where they failed.
I think it'd annoy a few Mayo fans if it happedned again that the only year that Mayo didn't get beaten by/beat Dublin (since 2011) that Dublin would get usurped by A team Mayo would be fairly confident of beating as happened in 2014
Well listen it's great to be back in an All Ireland semi final for the first time since 2001 no matter what happens from here. We're almost in August and we've only lost one competitive game all year, the league final to the Dubs. Hopefully the last four will become a regular event for this bunch as they develop because there are plenty of young players coming through to add to that side over the next few years and we shouldn't lose too many to retirements.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 22, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
It must be extremely galling for Mayo supporters to see Galway succeeding where they failed.
To be fair, I'd like to see Galway put ye on your arse, however unlikely the scenario is with ye having home advantage for all your remaining games!
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 22, 2018, 10:42:03 PM
Cian O'Neill would want to ditch the whinging, he's been at it a lot already this year.
Fair enough if a Galway player deserved a red card for another incident and you want to decry the lack of consistency in decisions, work away there but cut the bullshit when it's your own player who has let you down, it was a clear red card.
The notion that Kildare were as white as their jerseys today in terms of the off the ball stuff should be laughable to anyone actually at the match, the Kildare 25 was only spared a red card for assaulting Varley in injury time because the full time whistle went.
Exactly. He may yet get cited because I think the linesman saw it. Gave the prostrate Varley a couple of right digs in the back. Shameful.
Dubs in the semi-final is preferable, spared of the hype of the final; Monaghan win in Salthill gets rid of Kerry.
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Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 22, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
It must be extremely galling for Mayo supporters to see Galway succeeding where they failed.
To be fair, I'd like to see Galway put ye on your arse, however unlikely the scenario is with ye having home advantage for all your remaining games!
Roscommon are the only Connacht team for this job.
A thoroughly enjoyable trip to Newbridge.
Kildare put it up to us massively and kicked some phenomenal scores from play.
From our point of view, we still have a lot to work on but delighted with the win.
We aren't clinical enough in terms of converting goal chances and we'll have to improve in that area.
Michael Daly would be a huge loss if he is out for the semi final - my understanding is it's a slight hamstring tweak so he will be touch and go for 3 weeks time (he will not be risked against Monaghan you'd imagine with any sort of hamstring complaint).
Being already through may take a slight mental edge off us the next day whereas Monaghan have no choice but to win or draw to qualify (you would expect Kerry to handle an already eliminated Kildare at home and therefore have the superior points difference in the event that we win by the minimum margin).
Duggan may be back for the Monaghan game.
Not having Conroy or Duggan yesterday hurt us when Daly went off as it meant Patrick Sweeney would come on (one of Flynn or Conroy would play in half forward line). I don't think they wanted to bring Armie on so early but was surprised Sweeney got the nod ahead of Aido Varley.
It's high time management realise his limitations and play lads that are clearly better than him ahead of him.
He's an honest wholehearted player but that alone doesn't cut it at this level.
Roll on Salthill on Saturday week.
Didn't even realise the All-Ireland semi-finals were the weekend straight after the last group games. All seems a bit rushed. Surely there should be a week's break before you go into two All-Ireland semi-finals.
Big advantage for Dublin in that they will probably rest a few lads against Roscommon while Galway/Monaghan will be knocking seven bells out of each other and Kerry have to go all out against Kildare too.
Out of interest does anybody know how many assists Ian burke got the last day?
Quote from: DJGaliv on July 23, 2018, 12:28:18 PM
Out of interest does anybody know how many assists Ian burke got the last day?
No idea but the man is a genius, excellent again yesterday. Comer would do well to watch how Burke always has the head up looking for the man in the best position.
Getting to the AISF is a great achievement considering the last 15years
I think being clear headed in converting goal chances is a rubicon this Galway side have yet to pass. They are not going to beat your Dublin's of the world without rattling the net once or twice.
Yesterday Patrick Sweeney and Shane Walsh both failed to convert one on ones with the Kildare keeper (great saves to be fair), a Kildare defender cleared another off the line when the keeper was beaten and Comer butchered a 3 on 1. They have a fair bit of improving to do in terms of finishing their goal chances and knowing when to play the extra pass.
One thing that has worked well for them is impact off the bench. In practically every game the subs have made a difference. Even the last day both Armstrong and O'Donnell scored off the bench. Other days it was Varley. Or the midfielders when we had them all fit.
Quote from: DJGaliv on July 23, 2018, 12:28:18 PM
Out of interest does anybody know how many assists Ian burke got the last day?
https://twitter.com/Meehan_MJ/status/1021139129998946304 (https://twitter.com/Meehan_MJ/status/1021139129998946304)
Assists for yesterday, Don't replies with other 3 games.
Mehan
Anyone tracking assists? @drills81 @GaaStatsman @dontfoul Ian Burke has gotta be off the charts.. I make it 6 today and 1 score. Last week even more impressive..
Dontffoul
3 primary assists v Mayo 5 primary v Ros (won 1 free) 5 primary v Kerry (won 3 frees) In the 3 games combined I have him with only 2 secondary assists
Anyone seen any kickout stats? Looked like Kildare won that battle until Flynn's sending off.
I did think Galway got their scores a lot easier than Kildare, can't recall any great points kicked from too far outside the D yesterday whilst Kildare must have scored 4 or 5 from tricky angles.
I missed The Sunday Game last night, did Brolly have anything good to say about Galway?
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
Quote from: Itchy on July 22, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Cian o Neill whinging about the red. Sorry Cian, getting a tired of you playing the victim. That was as clear a red as you'd ever see.
Was it not the Galway player who enhanced his victimhood in order get Flynn carded?
In real time it looked like a red card strike, but in totally ignoring the blatant fouling and provocation, the ref effectively rewards the provocateur vigorously dragging and pulling the marquee player off the ball, preventing him from following the action. Is that not a black card offence?
Quote from: Main Street on July 23, 2018, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 22, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Cian o Neill whinging about the red. Sorry Cian, getting a tired of you playing the victim. That was as clear a red as you'd ever see.
Was it not the Galway player who enhanced his victimhood in order get Flynn carded?
In real time it looked like a red card strike, but in totally ignoring the blatant fouling and provocation, the ref effectively rewards the provocateur vigorously dragging and pulling the marquee player off the ball, preventing him from following the action. Is that not a black card offence?
It a yellow card for Sean Andy in that incident.
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 23, 2018, 12:31:14 PM
Quote from: DJGaliv on July 23, 2018, 12:28:18 PM
Out of interest does anybody know how many assists Ian burke got the last day?
No idea but the man is a genius, excellent again yesterday. Comer would do well to watch how Burke always has the head up looking for the man in the best position.
+1 excellent football brain. It great to see the small footballers excelling at inter county. Eoin Murchan doing well for Dublin. Then you Ryan McHugh and Paul Murphy playing great stuff for the past few years too.
Nothing wrong with Cian O'Neill's statement. What he said was pretty much factual. Yes, he did leave out that Flynn was a silly to react, but no point publicising that, and you'd presume he told him to his face where it matters.
Linesmen don't call "normal" fouls (or very very rarely), but they will react to punches.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
heh heh, the Roscommon incarnation of Comical Ali.
Quote from: mouview on July 23, 2018, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
heh heh, the Roscommon incarnation of Comical Ali.
He's unbelievable. Brolly had it correct last night. Tier the Championship and have that Roscommon scrap in the middle Tier where they belong.
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Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
heh heh, the Roscommon incarnation of Comical Ali.
It's an insult to Comical Ali to make such an unflattering comparison.
It's such a shame the ignore function doesn't cover quoted posts as well to be honest.
Quote from: Gael85 on July 23, 2018, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 23, 2018, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 22, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Cian o Neill whinging about the red. Sorry Cian, getting a tired of you playing the victim. That was as clear a red as you'd ever see.
Was it not the Galway player who enhanced his victimhood in order get Flynn carded?
In real time it looked like a red card strike, but in totally ignoring the blatant fouling and provocation, the ref effectively rewards the provocateur vigorously dragging and pulling the marquee player off the ball, preventing him from following the action. Is that not a black card offence?
It a yellow card for Sean Andy in that incident.
Okay, but does Daniel Flynn have to fall to the ground before it becomes a black card offence or does all that pulling and dragging on its own not constitute enough cynical aggro for a black card?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 23, 2018, 05:26:21 PM
Anyone seen any kickout stats? Looked like Kildare won that battle until Flynn's sending off.
I did think Galway got their scores a lot easier than Kildare, can't recall any great points kicked from too far outside the D yesterday whilst Kildare must have scored 4 or 5 from tricky angles.
I missed The Sunday Game last night, did Brolly have anything good to say about Galway?
No, was to busy talking about the Paid O Shea cup no natter what question Des asked him.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
I like the podcast but they really like getting carried away, earlier on in the year Parkinson was slating Galway week in week out but then changed his mind when he actually went to watch them live. I can understand their logic that it might be easier to beat them in a semi than in a final but I think its highly unlikely that Galway can beat them this year; So IF Galway could get to a final the experience from that would be invaluable going forward. Galway have a brilliant age profile, of the starters only Bradshaw is the wrong side of 30 and like Armstrong he'll another year left in him as they certainly won't be burnt out.
I see Cooke scored a point with his left on Sunday, Dublin are the only team who can match Galway in this department; Galway have so many players capable of scoring with either foot.
Cooke's shot with his weaker foot for that point was far more composed than the two efforts with this right in the 2nd half, one of them was a wild and terrible miss in the middle of a stretch of about 4/5 bad wides when Galway were 4 points up and should have put the game to bed.
Our conversion rates from shots taken has not been good enough in the first two Super 8 rounds, this hasn't been an issue yet but I can't imagine that Galway will get away with it if the current trend extends into the semi final match.
Brannigan does a ton of work around the pitch and offers huge pace but his excellent scoring stats from the league are starting to look very much like a total outlier in terms of what you can expect from him during an average match. I'm not a fan of Lavelle taking 45's either, he's no Beggan. May as well leave Shane Walsh at them if he is now the designated free taker whether it's left or right.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 24, 2018, 02:44:08 PM
Cooke's shot with his weaker foot for that point was far more composed than the two efforts with this right in the 2nd half, one of them was a wild and terrible miss in the middle of a stretch of about 4/5 bad wides when Galway were 4 points up and should have put the game to bed.
Our conversion rates from shots taken has not been good enough in the first two Super 8 rounds, this hasn't been an issue yet but I can't imagine that Galway will get away with it if the current trend extends into the semi final match.
Brannigan does a ton of work around the pitch and offers huge pace but his excellent scoring stats from the league are starting to look very much like a total outlier in terms of what you can expect from him during an average match. I'm not a fan of Lavelle taking 45's either, he's no Beggan. May as well leave Shane Walsh at them if he is now the designated free taker whether it's left or right.
Yeah that 45 was a bit ridiculous. there were points floating over from around the 45 all day, it was well within Walsh's range as a free taker. Cooke also has no problem throwing 45's over in club games. Armstrong wasnt on, but in future its well within his range also. To bring up Lavelle who is essentially punting the ball towards the goal and hoping to be accurate is silly
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
Maybe roscommon can show us how to beat the dubs????
Quote from: cornetto on July 24, 2018, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
Maybe roscommon can show us how to beat the dubs????
The irony is Roscommon probably have the best chance of any team since 2014 of beating Dublin in the championship because they're already through as group winners and have an AISF coming up the following weekend so they're likely to make a raft of changes. We coped well enough with the Dublin B team up in Carrick two years ago for what it's worth.
Did we win?
Thought Tom Flynn might have got a look in for man of the match. He caught some ball in midfield and won a good amount of frees as well.
Quote from: Syferus on July 24, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: cornetto on July 24, 2018, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour on the drive home there and was surprised to hear that they were pretty much in agreement that Galway should rest players against Monaghan with an All-Ireland semi-final the following weekend. Their logic being that they are in the semi-finals already and shouldn't be bothered about avoiding Dublin as you're going to have to play them in either the semis or final anyway. Why risk all your top players in what is sure to be a hard hitting physical game against Monaghan with such a quick turnaround after. They compared it to having a league game with your club the weekend before a big championship match. Worst case scenario is Galway play their best side, lose the game to Monaghan anyway, pick up a few knocks and still have to face the Dubs who will likely have a low intensity glorified training session with Roscommon.
You're going to get well bet no matter how rested or not rested Dublin are. The only question left is if you'll last long enough to meet them, honestly.
Maybe roscommon can show us how to beat the dubs????
The irony is Roscommon probably have the best chance of any team since 2014 of beating Dublin in the championship because they're already through as group winners and have an AISF coming up the following weekend so they're likely to make a raft of changes. We coped well enough with the Dublin B team up in Carrick two years ago for what it's worth.
That sounds like a Hong Kong website that knows nothing about GAA.
I see we have attracted the beady eye of Ewan Mackenna in the Indo.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-why-are-the-nasty-and-spiteful-tactics-in-gaa-right-now-passed-off-as-a-skill-37157511.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-why-are-the-nasty-and-spiteful-tactics-in-gaa-right-now-passed-off-as-a-skill-37157511.html)
What's that saying, its better to be talked about than not talked about at all? ::) I see all this sympathy coming from all sides about the treatment Flynn was at the end of and it was a harsh red he received, not much mention of the treatment Damien Comer and Ian Burke received but they managed to last 70+ minutes without getting a red even though I'm sure they were frustrated like Flynn was. No outcry about the 2 cowardly punches on Adrian Varley by David Slattery on the final whistle either.
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 05:31:51 PM
What's that saying, its better to be talked about than not talked about at all? ::) I see all this sympathy coming from all sides about the treatment Flynn was at the end of and it was a harsh red he received, not much mention of the treatment Damien Comer and Ian Burke received but they managed to last 70+ minutes without getting a red even though I'm sure they were frustrated like Flynn was. No outcry about the 2 cowardly punches on Adrian Varley by David Slattery on the final whistle either.
You left out the punch at the start of the game. Why was that?
The game is over. Both sides were at it. McKenna and O'Neill out of order.
Quote from: mup on July 26, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 05:31:51 PM
What's that saying, its better to be talked about than not talked about at all? ::) I see all this sympathy coming from all sides about the treatment Flynn was at the end of and it was a harsh red he received, not much mention of the treatment Damien Comer and Ian Burke received but they managed to last 70+ minutes without getting a red even though I'm sure they were frustrated like Flynn was. No outcry about the 2 cowardly punches on Adrian Varley by David Slattery on the final whistle either.
You left out the punch at the start of the game. Why was that?
Because it wasn't a punch, yes Sean Andy grabbed his jersey and there was pushing and shoving but there was no punch
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 09:18:30 PM
Quote from: mup on July 26, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 26, 2018, 05:31:51 PM
What's that saying, its better to be talked about than not talked about at all? ::) I see all this sympathy coming from all sides about the treatment Flynn was at the end of and it was a harsh red he received, not much mention of the treatment Damien Comer and Ian Burke received but they managed to last 70+ minutes without getting a red even though I'm sure they were frustrated like Flynn was. No outcry about the 2 cowardly punches on Adrian Varley by David Slattery on the final whistle either.
You left out the punch at the start of the game. Why was that?
Because it wasn't a punch, yes Sean Andy grabbed his jersey and there was pushing and shoving but there was no punch
I seen a punch, it was no haymaker but he definitely landed a left hand. Cribbin didn't fall to the ground like Comer would have. It would be interesting to see the video from above the goal. Plenty of others in the town end were calling for the umpires to take action so I wasn't alone in what I saw.
It doesn't really matter 5 days after the match anyway.
Have Kildare always been such whingers?
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2018, 11:20:24 PM
Have Kildare always been such whingers?
Precious Galway supporters can't handle the filth of their team been called out. Snowflakes from the West.
It's the hypocritical whinging of Kildare that is the issue really, there's no doubt the Galway team are no angels.
It's the whole narrative around Flynn's red card that gets me, he struck/attempted to strike and was stupid enough to do it in front of the linesman and the Galway bench. Plenty of other players on both sides were on the end of pulling, dragging, illegal tackles etc. but managed to keep their tempers in check, Flynn didn't and got a deserved red. And for what it's worth, I though Sean Andy should have gotten a yellow in that incident for the high tackle.
The ironic thing is had the referee applied the rules correctly, Kildare could easily have picked up 3 red cards on the day. The one they got for Flynn. The "tackle" on Sweeney out on the wing which was both dangerous and 100% intentional and was by a mile the worst incident all game. And the player who was boxing the head UFC style off Varley on the ground as the final whistle blew.
Now I don't think Kildare are a dirty side but when articles from that flute emerge trying to hang one side while not even mentioning the other only to whinge about how wronged they were I can't blame people for pulling him up on his bullshit. And they have been doing so on his Twitter account all evening.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2018, 11:51:44 PM
The ironic thing is had the referee applied the rules correctly, Kildare could easily have picked up 3 red cards on the day. The one they got for Flynn. The "tackle" on Sweeney out on the wing which was both dangerous and 100% intentional. And the player who was boxing the head UFC style off Varley on the ground as the final whistle blew.
Now I don't think Kildare are a dirty side but when articles from that flute emerge trying to hang one side while not even mentioning the other only to whinge about how wronged they were I can't blame people for pulling him up on his bullshit. And they have been doing so on his Twitter account all evening.
McKenna is less a sports journalist than a professional moaner, whinger about everything.
An absolute miserable so and so.
He laid into the Dubs a while back as well if memory serves me.
He would suck the life out of you listening to him on radio.
Quote from: galwayman on July 26, 2018, 11:56:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2018, 11:51:44 PM
The ironic thing is had the referee applied the rules correctly, Kildare could easily have picked up 3 red cards on the day. The one they got for Flynn. The "tackle" on Sweeney out on the wing which was both dangerous and 100% intentional. And the player who was boxing the head UFC style off Varley on the ground as the final whistle blew.
Now I don't think Kildare are a dirty side but when articles from that flute emerge trying to hang one side while not even mentioning the other only to whinge about how wronged they were I can't blame people for pulling him up on his bullshit. And they have been doing so on his Twitter account all evening.
McKenna is less a sports journalist than a professional moaner, whinger about everything.
An absolute miserable so and so.
He laid into the Dubs a while back as well if memory serves me.
He would suck the life out of you listening to him on radio.
Yeah, how could anyone find something to lay into the Dubs about..
Galway need to suck it up like Meath in the 80s and 90s. They have been called out, the statistics show it, nearly all the red cards are for forwards retaliating. They have a systematic approach, they are deliberately trying to provoke players, they are taking gamesmanship and cynicism to a new level, having seen them in the flesh for 2 weeks in a row I can testify Galway are filthy, and no amount of whataboutery will change that. I also agree every team in the Super 8 has an edge, it's become engrained but Galway are currently the galacticos of the dark arts.
MacKenna's mother doesn't even love him and he is a bit of a serial virtue signaller but that doesn't make him wrong in this regard. If you are getting precious over MacKenna's comments wait till you have to play Dublin in a semi final or final and Dublin roll out their media mafia for the week beforehand. They will have the referee and linesmen in a frenzy just waiting to show any Galway player a red card.
Just suck it up boys because unless Galway change drastically this narrative is here to stay and no amount of dribbling from the likes of Ray Silke will change that.
They may be cynical but it is hardly a new level dinny. That is a bit sensationalist :D All the top teams are cynical inclusive of the dubs.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2018, 07:59:54 AM
They may be cynical but it is hardly a new level dinny. That is a bit sensationalist :D All the top teams are cynical inclusive of the dubs.
Just sticking to the narrative ITG.
"Filthy", "cheats", some amount of invective from the sorest losers that I can recall post any Galway match - in either code - in a long, long time.
Where was this opprobrium from the Kerry fans after the first round of matches given that the bastions of virtue from Kildare are now calling out Galway's performance in that match as well? How did Roscommon cope in the Connacht final to somehow keep 15 men on the pitch? How can you possibly class the Mayo red card as "retaliation"?
Kildare were at off the ball stuff all day last Sunday as well. The hypocrisy of McKenna and others is simply being called out, it needs to be.
Perhaps when you are out of the championship and have nothing to play for maybe the best you can do is try and generate a media campaign from your couch in Brazil to hinder the county that dumped you out. I think that's pathetic but yet here we are.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2018, 06:45:52 AM
Galway need to suck it up like Meath in the 80s and 90s. They have been called out, the statistics show it, nearly all the red cards are for forwards retaliating. They have a systematic approach, they are deliberately trying to provoke players, they are taking gamesmanship and cynicism to a new level, having seen them in the flesh for 2 weeks in a row I can testify Galway are filthy, and no amount of whataboutery will change that. I also agree every team in the Super 8 has an edge, it's become engrained but Galway are currently the galacticos of the dark arts.
MacKenna's mother doesn't even love him and he is a bit of a serial virtue signaller but that doesn't make him wrong in this regard. If you are getting precious over MacKenna's comments wait till you have to play Dublin in a semi final or final and Dublin roll out their media mafia for the week beforehand. They will have the referee and linesmen in a frenzy just waiting to show any Galway player a red card.
Just suck it up boys because unless Galway change drastically this narrative is here to stay and no amount of dribbling from the likes of Ray Silke will change that.
Filthy?!!! That's absolute muck DB and to be honest I'm very surprised to see such a comment from a usually reasonable poster like yourself.
We have a hard edge for sure, same as most of the other top teams, and it's a trait that we were sorely lacking for many years. Our main issue at the moment is that we are not being clinical enough with all the chances, goals especially, that we are creating. Unless that improves in the coming weeks, we won't be beating the Dubs and possibly other teams also.
Best of luck to ye in Killarney.
Seriously lads we are embarrassing ourselves with all this stuff.
Galway won by whatever means possible. Maybe if we tried those means every now and then we might not be considered 'soft'.
I know I'd rather win that way than lose being nice.
FFS move on.
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 27, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2018, 06:45:52 AM
Galway need to suck it up like Meath in the 80s and 90s. They have been called out, the statistics show it, nearly all the red cards are for forwards retaliating. They have a systematic approach, they are deliberately trying to provoke players, they are taking gamesmanship and cynicism to a new level, having seen them in the flesh for 2 weeks in a row I can testify Galway are filthy, and no amount of whataboutery will change that. I also agree every team in the Super 8 has an edge, it's become engrained but Galway are currently the galacticos of the dark arts.
MacKenna's mother doesn't even love him and he is a bit of a serial virtue signaller but that doesn't make him wrong in this regard. If you are getting precious over MacKenna's comments wait till you have to play Dublin in a semi final or final and Dublin roll out their media mafia for the week beforehand. They will have the referee and linesmen in a frenzy just waiting to show any Galway player a red card.
Just suck it up boys because unless Galway change drastically this narrative is here to stay and no amount of dribbling from the likes of Ray Silke will change that.
Filthy?!!! That's absolute muck DB and to be honest I'm very surprised to see such a comment from a usually reasonable poster like yourself.
We have a hard edge for sure, same as most of the other top teams, and it's a trait that we were sorely lacking for many years. Our main issue at the moment is that we are not being clinical enough with all the chances, goals especially, that we are creating. Unless that improves in the coming weeks, we won't be beating the Dubs and possibly other teams also.
Best of luck to ye in Killarney.
Hard edge is a euphemism for filthy and just for the record, "filth" "dirt" "dark arts" "hard edge" have existed since time began and players will always push boundaries. I have no issue it with it and am glad Kildare are developing an edge , it's one of the reasons why competitive sport is compelling. I am amused by the preciousness of the Galway support, I think you are too use to the media blowing smoke up your holes.
Welcome it, welcome the abuse, it means you have arrived.
We are far from precious and it's a very long time since the media blew smoke up our asses in reference to our footballers - we were a shambles for years and failed miserably to adapt to an evolving football landscape in the mid 00s. It's taken us a decade and a half to recover. As you say, I'm delighted where we are at now, and it's great to finally be in with a shout at the business end of the championship - it's been far too long.
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 27, 2018, 10:20:47 AM
We are far from precious and it's a very long time since the media blew smoke up our asses in reference to our footballers - we were a shambles for years and failed miserably to adapt to an evolving football landscape in the mid 00s. It's taken us a decade and a half to recover. As you say, I'm delighted where we are at now, and it's great to finally be in with a shout at the business end of the championship - it's been far too long.
Exactly, Galway are a template for the Tipp's/Kildare's/Roscommon's/Cavan's. It's one thing getting your underage set-up sorted but you need then to get the physicality and crucially the mentality that brings to compete with the Mayo's, Kerry's, Tyrone's, Donegal's and Monaghan's on consistent basis. It's dog eat dog, get that right and then you can look having a pop at the GAA's team, Galway and Kildare have learned, pretty football will only get you so far.
So McKenna's article is based on never actually seeing Galway in the flesh, he may we have a point about some of the stuff that goes on off the ball but he's very naive to think it that all the top teams aren't at it. I've been at all the games Dublin & Mayo have played against each other and both teams are at it, so much stuff going on off the ball. He's gone far too personal on the attack on Galway. We saw a Kildare man sent off and Cooke & Varley were both on the receiving end of punches too, their are clear to see on the TV. He keeps showing a picture of Sean Andy grabbing Cribbin's jersey as some sort of evidence he's punched him, he's completely lost the run of himself. As for been filthy thats laughable considering the amount of Kildare men caught throwing punches on the TV.
He's citing the red cards as some sort of evidence which is laughable, if you ask Harte, O'Rourke, Fitzmaurice, Gavin & Rochford about the sending offs they'll tell you how disappointed they were in their own players not the Galway player. Comer gets dogs of abuse and its only the last 6 months he's started to deal with it, he was sent off in the FBD against Mayo. Galway have been very disciplined since that game, just hope it continues.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 27, 2018, 10:20:47 AM
We are far from precious and it's a very long time since the media blew smoke up our asses in reference to our footballers - we were a shambles for years and failed miserably to adapt to an evolving football landscape in the mid 00s. It's taken us a decade and a half to recover. As you say, I'm delighted where we are at now, and it's great to finally be in with a shout at the business end of the championship - it's been far too long.
Exactly, Galway are a template for the Tipp's/Kildare's/Roscommon's/Cavan's. It's one thing getting your underage set-up sorted but you need then to get the physicality and crucially the mentality that brings to compete with the Mayo's, Kerry's, Tyrone's, Donegal's and Monaghan's on consistent basis. It's dog eat dog, get that right and then you can look having a pop at the GAA's team, Galway and Kildare have learned, pretty football will only get you so far.
We regularly beat that Galway team, while only serves to highlight their limitations. Their conditioning more than their system is what's impressive.
Quote from: Syferus on July 27, 2018, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 27, 2018, 10:20:47 AM
We are far from precious and it's a very long time since the media blew smoke up our asses in reference to our footballers - we were a shambles for years and failed miserably to adapt to an evolving football landscape in the mid 00s. It's taken us a decade and a half to recover. As you say, I'm delighted where we are at now, and it's great to finally be in with a shout at the business end of the championship - it's been far too long.
Exactly, Galway are a template for the Tipp's/Kildare's/Roscommon's/Cavan's. It's one thing getting your underage set-up sorted but you need then to get the physicality and crucially the mentality that brings to compete with the Mayo's, Kerry's, Tyrone's, Donegal's and Monaghan's on consistent basis. It's dog eat dog, get that right and then you can look having a pop at the GAA's team, Galway and Kildare have learned, pretty football will only get you so far.
We regularly beat that Galway team, while only serves to highlight their limitations. Their conditioning more than their system is what's impressive.
Define regularly. We met them 3 times in the championship in the last 3 years and it is Galway 2 Roscommon 1. We last met them competitively in the league 4 years ago and Galway won.
Unless you mean the FBD???
Quote from: weareros on July 27, 2018, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 27, 2018, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 27, 2018, 10:20:47 AM
We are far from precious and it's a very long time since the media blew smoke up our asses in reference to our footballers - we were a shambles for years and failed miserably to adapt to an evolving football landscape in the mid 00s. It's taken us a decade and a half to recover. As you say, I'm delighted where we are at now, and it's great to finally be in with a shout at the business end of the championship - it's been far too long.
Exactly, Galway are a template for the Tipp's/Kildare's/Roscommon's/Cavan's. It's one thing getting your underage set-up sorted but you need then to get the physicality and crucially the mentality that brings to compete with the Mayo's, Kerry's, Tyrone's, Donegal's and Monaghan's on consistent basis. It's dog eat dog, get that right and then you can look having a pop at the GAA's team, Galway and Kildare have learned, pretty football will only get you so far.
We regularly beat that Galway team, while only serves to highlight their limitations. Their conditioning more than their system is what's impressive.
Define regularly. We met them 3 times in the championship in the last 3 years and it is Galway 2 Roscommon 1. We last met them competitively in the league 4 years ago and Galway won.
Unless you mean the FBD???
Galway have lost 3 championship games to Roscommon in 29 years - 1990, 2001 and 2017.
3 defeats out of 12 excluding draws.
Hardly a regular occurrence I would have thought.
In modern times - last years Connacht final is the only league or championship game that Roscommon have won unless I'm mistaken.
It's a wonder Syf didn't also mention his other mantra -that Kevin Walsh is a totally useless manager.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2018, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2018, 07:59:54 AM
They may be cynical but it is hardly a new level dinny. That is a bit sensationalist :D All the top teams are cynical inclusive of the dubs.
Just sticking to the narrative ITG.
I did wonder ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2018, 03:19:53 PM
It's a wonder Syf didn't also mention his other mantra -that Kevin Walsh is a totally useless manager.
Please point me to where I ever said that. Thanks, grammar-man.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2018, 03:19:53 PM
It's a wonder Syf didn't also mention his other mantra -that Kevin Walsh is a totally useless manager.
I've had my doubts about Kevin Walsh ever since I seen Sligo put up the most pathetic performance I've ever seen in the championship in 2013 (As a Kildare man I've seen plenty including conceding 7 goals). They lost to Kildare by a mere 13 points to 4 but kept 14 men behind the ball all game and only scored from play at the very end when O'Hara came on but it was a farcical performance to exit a championship.
To be fair to him he has done well at Galway but with the talent available you would need to be a fair disaster to not have them in the top 8.
Ayf has memory loss to go with all his other ailments I see.
You've been spouting about how bad Walsh is for years.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2018, 07:07:56 PM
Ayf has memory loss to go with all his other ailments I see.
You've been spouting about how bad Walsh is for years.
Show me where I said he was a totally useless manager or delete your post. Either or.
Quote from: Syferus on July 27, 2018, 07:11:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2018, 07:07:56 PM
Ayf has memory loss to go with all his other ailments I see.
You've been spouting about how bad Walsh is for years.
Show me where I said he was a totally useless manager or delete your post. Either or.
I will.sort you out Syf. Need a bit of tïme though. Kevin Walsh is useless and the Ros forwards are better than Galway's seem to be 2 of your favourite riffs.