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QF Laois v Wicklow/Louth
SF winners v Offaly/Carlow/Wexford
Out of interest, the 2014 minor football championship went as follows:
ELECTRIC IRELAND LEINSTER MINOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
19th April - Dublin (2-11) Longford (0-14)
19th April - Offaly (7-30) Kilkenny (0-02)
19th April - Meath (3-18) Wicklow (1-06)
19th April - Kildare (1-12) Westmeath (1-08)
19th April - Wexford (3-15) Louth (2-05)
19th April - Laois (0-14) Carlow (0-5)
1st May - Longford (0-10) Louth (0-6)
7th May - Longford (3-13) Carlow (2-6)
7th May - Westmeath (2-17) Wicklow (1-8)
16th May - Offaly (2-16) Westmeath (1-8)
17th May - Kildare (2-17) Longford (2-12)
17th May - Dublin (0-15) Meath (0-12)
17th May - Laois (2-07) Wexford (1-08)
5th July - Kildare (3-11) Laois (0-05)
10th July - Dublin (6-13) Offaly (0-06)
20th July - Dublin (3-16) Kildare (1-12)
Couldn't have got an 'easier' draw really.
Any word of a panel yet?
Bulk of panel seems to be from josephs, Graigue and Port.
Rumoured Emmet Doyle from Ballylinan captain for the year.
Wexford & Westmeath Win In EirGrid U-21 FC
(22 Feb 2017)
First round wins in the EirGrid Leinster G.A.A. Under 21 Football Championship were celebrated this evening by Westmeath and Wexford.
Westmeath defeated Meath by 2-8 to 0-12 at Lakepoint Park, Mullingar, with the goals scored by Ronan O'Toole (penalty) and Boidu Sayeh.
Meath led by 0-7 to 1-3 at half time and were three points up midway through the second half. But they suffered a setback when reduced to 14 players and Sayeh's late strike sent the Lake County through to a quarter-final against Dublin next Wednesday evening.
Meanwhile, Wexford enjoyed a comfortable 1-18 to 0-8 win over Carlow at Netwatch Cullen Park. Ahead by 0-10 to 0-5 at the interval, they easily progressed to a quarter-final meeting with Offaly, with Mikey Dwyer scoring the game's only goal.
The other first round fixture schedule for this evening, Wicklow v Louth, could not proceed due to an unplayable pitch at Baltinglass.
EIRGRID LEINSTER GAA UNDER 21 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP QUARTER-FINALS
Wednesday 1st March 2017 (7.30)
Dublin v Meath/Westmeath Venue to be confirmed
Kildare v Longford Kildare Venue
Carlow/Wexford v Offaly Venue to be confirmed
Laois v Wicklow/Louth Venue to be confirmed
SEMI-FINALS
Wednesday 15th March 2017 (7.30)
FINAL
Wednesday 29th March 2017 (7.30)
The Laois U-21 football squad in full is:
Daragh Connolly (Ballyfin)
David Connolly (Ballyfin)
Sean Moore (Ballyfin)
Aaron Carroll (Ballyroan-Abbey)
James Baldwin (Barrowhouse)
Brian Daly (Barrowhouse)
Danny Luttrell (Courtwood)
Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen)
Danny O'Reilly (Graiguecullen)
Brian Byrne (Graiguecullen)
Adam Deering (Killeshin)
Shane Bolger (Killeshin)
Shane Nerney (O'Dempsey's)
Robert Piggott (Portarlington)
Colm Murphy (Portarlington)
Paddy O'Sullivan (Portarlington)
Cillian Callally (Rosenallis)
Tom Shiel (Stradbally)
Jack Larkin (Stradbally)
Liam Knowles (Stradbally)
Eoin Buggie (Stradbally)
James Kelly (St Joseph's)
Aaron Cooney (St Joseph's)
Dylan Doyle (St Joseph's)
Conor Whelehan (Timahoe)
No portlaoise men ?
Is Shane Smyth not playing anymore ?
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 23, 2017, 04:00:04 PM
No portlaoise men ?
Is Shane Smyth not playing anymore ?
Him, Shane Whelan and Frank Flanagan are all probably good enough but maybe they didn't commit?
is jake foster from port not in there or is he over 21?
Louth beat Wicklow tonight so we play them next Wednesday in Portlaoise with the winners away to Offaly the following week. Dublin at home to longford in the other semi final.
Quote from: justinn on March 01, 2017, 09:57:13 PM
Louth beat Wicklow tonight so we play them next Wednesday in Portlaoise with the winners away to Offaly the following week. Dublin at home to longford in the other semi final.
Laois footballers to face Louth in Leinster U-21 quarter final.
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/01/laois-footballers-face-louth-leinster-u-21-quarter-final/
Nice to have them at home.
Looking forward to this game next wednesday!
Lots of senior experience. Unsure if that means a strong U21 side, or a weak senior panel.
1. Aaron Cooney (St Joseph's)
2. James Kelly (St Joseph's)
3. Shane Nerney (O'Dempsey's)
4. Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen)
5. Patrick O'Sullivan (Portarlington)
6. Eoin Buggie (Stradbally)
7. Daniel O'Reilly (Graiguecullen)
8. David Connolly (Ballyfin)
9. Danny Luttrell (Courtwood)
10. Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin)
11. Brian Daly (Barrowhouse)
12. Conor Whelehan (Timahoe)
13. Colm Murphy (Portarlington)
14. Sean Moore (Ballyfin)
15. Brian Byrne (Graiguecullen)
on paper this looks a serious outfit ,,best of luck to garry and the lads
There seems to be plenty of good footballers on that team. Louth seem to have a serious team so they will need to be good.
Like all modern football teams, no use having good players unless you have a system to go with it. Hopefully we have both this time.
Seems a decent team on paper...Hope Moore has shaken off his injuries to play a pivotal role.
Daly is a fine player and can be a big influence in this game.
Louth are suppose to be excellent so we will have our work cut out!
Tom Shiels not make it or is he injured or disinterested?
Quote from: Giovanni on March 07, 2017, 11:59:17 AM
Tom Shiels not make it or is he injured or disinterested?
Not sure thought Byrne from Portlaoise would be there or there abouts as well.Even Whelan from Ballyroan?
Laois Under-21 Football Manager Gary Kavanagh has announced his starting 15 for tomorrow's (Wednesday) Leinster U-21 FC clash with Louth in O'Moore Park
1. Aaron Cooney (St Joseph's)
2. James Kelly (St Joseph's)
3. Shane Nerney (O'Dempsey's)
4. Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen)
5. Patrick O'Sullivan (Portarlington)
6. Eoin Buggie (Stradbally)
7. Daniel O'Reilly (Graiguecullen)
8. David Connolly (Ballyfin)
9. Danny Luttrell (Courtwood)
10. Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin)
11. Brian Daly (Barrowhouse)
12. Conor Whelehan (Timahoe)
13. Colm Murphy (Portarlington)
14. Sean Moore (Ballyfin)
15. Brian Byrne (Graiguecullen)
Anyone know what Louth are like?
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on March 08, 2017, 01:18:08 AM
Laois Under-21 Football Manager Gary Kavanagh has announced his starting 15 for tomorrow's (Wednesday) Leinster U-21 FC clash with Louth in O'Moore Park
1. Aaron Cooney (St Joseph's)
2. James Kelly (St Joseph's)
3. Shane Nerney (O'Dempsey's)
4. Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen)
5. Patrick O'Sullivan (Portarlington)
6. Eoin Buggie (Stradbally)
7. Daniel O'Reilly (Graiguecullen)
8. David Connolly (Ballyfin)
9. Danny Luttrell (Courtwood)
10. Darragh Connolly (Ballyfin)
11. Brian Daly (Barrowhouse)
12. Conor Whelehan (Timahoe)
13. Colm Murphy (Portarlington)
14. Sean Moore (Ballyfin)
15. Brian Byrne (Graiguecullen)
Incidentally, nare a Portlaoise man to be seen.
Quote from: Don Draper on March 08, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
Incidentally, nare a Portlaoise man to be seen.
No Portlaoise men at all on the panel, don't know if this is Portlaoise's fault or Creedon and the selectors fault.
The Laois U-21 football squad in full is:
Daragh Connolly (Ballyfin)
David Connolly (Ballyfin)
Sean Moore (Ballyfin)
Aaron Carroll (Ballyroan-Abbey)
James Baldwin (Barrowhouse)
Brian Daly (Barrowhouse)
Danny Luttrell (Courtwood)
Trevor Collins (Graiguecullen)
Danny O'Reilly (Graiguecullen)
Brian Byrne (Graiguecullen)
Adam Deering (Killeshin)
Shane Bolger (Killeshin)
Shane Nerney (O'Dempsey's)
Robert Piggott (Portarlington)
Colm Murphy (Portarlington)
Paddy O'Sullivan (Portarlington)
Cillian Callally (Rosenallis)
Tom Shiel (Stradbally)
Jack Larkin (Stradbally)
Liam Knowles (Stradbally)
Eoin Buggie (Stradbally)
James Kelly (St Joseph's)
Aaron Cooney (St Joseph's)
Dylan Doyle (St Joseph's)
Conor Whelehan (Timahoe)
What you need to know about tonight's Leinster U-21 FC clash between Laois and Louth
By Alan Hartnett - 8th March 2017
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/08/need-know-tonights-leinster-u-21-fc-clash-laois-louth/ (http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/08/need-know-tonights-leinster-u-21-fc-clash-laois-louth/)
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on March 08, 2017, 03:07:55 PM
What you need to know about tonight's Leinster U-21 FC clash between Laois and Louth
By Alan Hartnett - 8th March 2017
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/08/need-know-tonights-leinster-u-21-fc-clash-laois-louth/ (http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/08/need-know-tonights-leinster-u-21-fc-clash-laois-louth/)
excellent write up!
Just back from match nice to have a win for laois footballers to strip the grey cloud over it at the moment. Played reasonably well with 14 men. Silly red to get. Sean Moore was excellent tonight along with Buggie. Jees that ref was awful fussy. We should had 3 penalties in second half.
Louth quite wasteful in first half with about 4-5 balls kicked into Cooneys hands. Overall good win. Roll on next Wednesday in Carlow.
So I am usually first to point out the wrongs, but a great win for Laois tonight. Under the cosh and they sent a (very poor) Louth team packing but you can only beat whats in front of you. Hopefully they improve from this and have a good run in Leinster.
Thought Laois were very good
Some great performances
Sean Moore is a joy to watch he has it all
Very harsh red card
Great win tonight against a Louth team who had a championship game under their belts and in Burns have a gem of a forward. In saying that Laois have a gem in Moore who's still very young and will get better and stronger.
Lutteral and Buggie were very good and the senior exposure has brought them on. Hope a good crowd turns up next Wednesday against the old enemy. We need to be more disciplined and can't afford anymore red cards. Momentum is a great thing in sport and hopefully this is the start of a good run
Nice to win at home for a change,
If you strike your off, would players cop themselves on.
Quote from: theoldvet on March 08, 2017, 11:28:13 PM
Nice to win at home for a change,
If you strike your off, would players cop themselves on.
Agree, it was a silly, needless red card and that's the second time in a few days we have lost a man through indiscipline. Lads have to be made realise that you are not doing your team any favours by being sent off and it doesn't make you any more of a man, in fact its the total opposite.
Having said that the team worked hard and managed to get through with 14 men. It was a fairly impressive display but we wouldn't want to get carried away just yet, we probably missed as much as we scored and against a better team we could have been struggling to win that one. I wish lads would stop bigging up Sean Moore, he has class but as yet he's no "Beano" as Jack Nolan suggested earlier this week.
We tend to get carried away in this county when we see a lad who's a bit above the rest and before we know it he starts to believe all the hype and that brings a lot of pressure on any young man. Leave him be and let him develop at his own pace, he certainly has what it takes to be a very good player but even tonight he missed a few scores that could have been disastrous if it were a close game. The less pressure lads like that feel the better they will play and confidence will grow.
Look at Ryan Burns tonight, he was being talked about all week and tonight he was very ordinary as we had him picked out as a marked man. We certainly would have had a few penalties tonight but unfortunately the ref was an Offaly man.....
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/08/3582/
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/239075/moore-inspires-14-man-laois-into-leinster-u-21-semi-finals.html
Sean Moore has been flagged for quite a while, comparison's to Beano it's up to Moore what he does with it.
Not going to score the young lads but here is my takings on what I saw last night
1. Aaron Cooney :Has a decent punt on him and picked out a few lovely shot kickouts not the most composed on the ball and had one very nervy moment early on but can be happy with his nights work
2. James Kelly Another good game from the Joes man really looked the part and the crowd warm to him when he gets stuck in.Still needs to work on getting turned when he is too tight.
3. Shane Nerney I was impressed with Shane all night had a tough final few minutes on Burns but who wouldn't he came out with three or four high balls and looked very solid
4. Trevor Collins The Graige man showed up well after a slow start very strong on the ball and a good rate rate.Best game for a while in a Laois shirt
5. Patrick O'Sullivan Had a lot of running down early doors which seemed to take it out of the legs and mind as he passed a few balls away in the second half but still overall was very decent
6. Eoin Buggie Showed his senior experience kicked one great score and was good on Burns for the majority of the game.Did loose him for the first goal but recovered to shine at number 6
7. Daniel O'Reilly Carried the ball very well at times and it took a lot out of the Louth players to stay with him.Runs down blind alleys sometimes but did chip in with a lovely point and his run with the seniors showed in the physical battle.
8. David Connolly Was winning his midfield battle before the harsh red card seemed to just shug the Louth player off the ball when he was holding him,hopefully there can be an appeal.
9. Danny Luttrell Caught some great ball in the second half and ran at Louth when ever he had the chance.Maybe he could lay the ball off sooner but this game should give him great confidence going forward.
10. Darragh Connolly Was running the Louth Senior number five ragged in the first 20 minutes before he got injured his pass for the goal was a thing of beauty.He is very pacey and very strong hopefully he is back for next wednesday
11. Brian Daly Scored one great point and was unlucky with a few more.Got through a great amount of work and is strong and composed .Can sometimes get bottled up on the solo run which is slow at times but he will learn from that.
12. Conor Whelehan Scored a nice point and got through a lot of work up and down the field one lovely move with Moore that should have resulted in a goal.
13. Colm Murphy Worked back out the field for most of the night and didn't probably get on as much ball as he would have liked but he was full of hard work and tracked runners very well .
14. Sean Moore Wow what a player he did miss a few scorable chances he would usually get and that will annoy him but he is a joy to watch.His movement off the ball is a thing of beauty.He can score ,His handpassing is crisp and deadly and one thing of note is his tackling he seems to be able to win a ball back from nothing .1-4 from play is a nice return.
15. Brian Byrne Got into a few scrable positions but was afraid to use his left foot .Showed well and linked well with Moore while he was on.
Subs Knowles Was impressed with the Stradbally man he hit hard and was composed on a lot of ball he got.Maybe needs to work on his fitness was blowing hard near the end.
Doyle Another who did well when introduced won a few nice frees and picked up a lot of loose ball
Carroll and Piggott werent on too long to say that much about but did both contribute in the final stages to close the win out.
Great boost for the county going forward and I hope we can get a good crowd to Carlow next wednesday night to support them .
I won't be getting carried away Louth had some very weak players and looked a bit all over the place as regards tactics even with the extra man.
Laois showed good structure and great fight.their tackling skills are a lot better than the seniors but maybe thats because we were on a par physically with Louth wheres we don't look on a par at senior level sometimes.
Moore is the obivious standout I won't be comparing him to Beano or anyone just yet but his talent is there for all to see.
Delighted for the few in on the senior panel to all have very good games this should bring their confidence on no end.
Hope Creedon is patient with them.Tough game last night another game next wednesday I think they should be used sparingly against Antrim on the 19th as its a lot to ask them to play 3 games like that in 10-11 days.
Bring on the Biffos
Delighted to see the lads on the senior panel all having good games. It's been a tough few weeks for them generally but that should pick them back up a bit.
I don't know any more about what constitutes a "strike". I hope we're not going the same road that soccer went.
I didn't see what the Connolly chap got sent off for, but in terms of the game in general, anything approaching physical contact was a free. The yellow card O'Sullivan got for meeting a lad with a perfectly executed should was shocking. That guy last night was the fella who reffed the game against Meath in O'Byrne Cup and gave that phantom penalty, so I suppose we shouldn't have been surprised. Still some woeful calls though.
For those couple of posters who were asking for the management team to be axed hopefully last night's performance will help them to realise the strengths Creedon brings to the county. The U21s have been exposed to quality training with the senior team and competing with the likes of O'Loughlin, Munnelly, Kingston etc for the past number of months. Those who have stepped up have been rewarded with playing time in the league-furthering their development again. It's no coincidence that these lads gave a very good account of themselves against what was considered a good Louth team last night. Credit where credit is due. Hopefully next week the team can step it up again and qualify for a Leinster Final. There are definitely 3/4 of these lads capable of making a Laois starting championship team this year if they continue to develop and gain experience of playing at inter-county level. Creedon by the looks of things is giving them every chance and is also reminding our more established players that if they don't perform then there are lads behind them who will be more than happy/capable of taking their positions on the team. Things will not change over night-losses to Louth and Tipperary are inevitable when blooding new players and putting new structures/systems (especially defensive ones) in place will take time. You can't blame Creedon for lads not being able to tackle properly on the senior team as that is something that would appear not to have been developed properly throughout their time on Laois underage panels/previous management teams/involvement with our Gaelic development coaches. I did think Laois stayed defensively solid last night when down to 14 men which is encouraging and would indicate that Creedon and his team are improving upon this Achilles heel found in Laois GAA teams the last number of years.
Great post Clubber, not for a long time have I seen a Laois team defend as good as that and seem to know what they were at too. They have a system and tweaked it perfectly when they went a man down. The defending was solid and not just the usual sticking out of the hand and letting your man go by you, legal hits were going in and lads stood their ground when necessary. This happened throughout the field starting from the forwards. Sean Moore dispossessed a defender brilliantly near the end but then missed an easy chance to score from that. It would have been a brilliant score had he made it but this guy seems to be coming along nicely. Hopefully he won't be forced to play senior too soon as has happened to a lot of good lads in the past.
Is Tom Shiel injured or has he left the panel??
Good stuff out of the boys last night, credit where its due. Still, it was only Louth, and should be tempered as such. Lets get the job done against Offaly and get back to a provincial football final again. Between this and last year, it'd be great to see us in minor and u21 football finals again.
Tom shield was in the panel last night and is coming back from injury!
Thanks Unlaoised, he will be a great addition to the team. We have yet to see the best of him in a Laois jersey..
Good win last night, few standouts but thought it was a very good team performance. The sending off didn't have a major impact on the game fortunately. I thought the full back line were very solid, but greater challenges lie ahead! I wouldn't be very confident in the goalie coming out like he did on a few occasions, he didn't look very comfortable, he might have been watching Brody a bit too much!
Looking forward to the Offaly game and a similar performance from Laois!
I agree with Clubber Lang there, good post. It's easy to forget sometimes - what you surround yourself with in terms of your team mates or competition improves you or makes you worse. For example, those u-21s getting senior experience with JOL, Kingstons etc - that will bring on their standard. It works both ways, though. If a team is in Division 1 and Division 2 - they're playing against top opposition week in week out, and so you develop as a player because of the higher standard (just like most things in life). Here's hoping that the seniors at least stay in Division 3 this year for that reason. Conversely, mixing with Division 4 teams is not going to improve anyone's standard.
Great to see the u-21's performing so well and so maturely. When we went a man down, I thought we might have imploded. Louth are a good side, we made them look average. An u-21 leinster football final would do very nicely indeed, with the added bonus of maybe 3-5 lads graduating to the seniors with a good crop of minors behind them. Hopefully we get a good crowd down in Carlow.
Quote from: Tony on March 09, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
Conversely, mixing with Division 4 teams is not going to improve anyone's standard.
Well at least we would be guaranteed that we won't get relegated for a change!
Anyone know how good Offaly are at this level?
Of course if we say they are good before the game, we will say they were awful if we beat them, that seems to be the way in Laois.
As minors they weren't great, a bit like ourselves that year. Kildare beat us well and the dubs hammered Offaly in the semi's. We're probably on a par with the Offaly team based om previous results. Very hard to see beyond the Dubs in the other semi despite Longfords good win over Kildare who won the last two minor titles.
Luttrell out of offaly game. He got is appendix out in hospital yesterday. Will be a big loss cos he has the senior experience behind him.
So that's our two midfielders gone for the Offaly game, that could shift the balance in favour of Offaly..
Quote from: ollie12 on March 10, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
Luttrell out of offaly game. He got is appendix out in hospital yesterday. Will be a big loss cos he has the senior experience behind him.
That's not true. He had a suspected appendicitis but is now home from hospital and didn't have surgery. I think he may be available for Wednesday night.
Looking forward to the game they played very well last they out,, best of luck to all involved
Very impressed by the work ethic by this team....left O'Moore park with a warm glow
Nerneys timing impressed me and strength on the ball
Kelly is growing at corner back
Thought the forwards pressure and work rate was outstanding
Moore is a gem
Luttrell big catches and angled runs(some of them weren't spotted)
Positive all round roll on tomorrow night
Here is the Laois team for tomorrow night against Offaly
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/14/laois-u-21-team-named-semi-final-clash-offaly/
(http://www.laoistoday.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Optimized-Laois-U-21s-v-Offaly-640x466.jpg)
hope Luttrell is okay he is a big player in this team now especially with Connolly missing who was having a fine game up until his Red card.
Which I still think was very harsh!
Did they appeal that red card??
Best of luck to the guys tonight.
Would be great to get to the Leinster final.
Quote from: County Man on March 15, 2017, 09:44:51 AM
Best of luck to the guys tonight.
Would be great to get to the Leinster final.
Lads. Not guys.
Guys play rugby! ;)
It would be great to get the win this evening and progress to a Leinster Final. It would be a good boost for the county. Best of luck to all involved.
Balls to that. Threw it away. Wasteful 1st half cost us dearly
Terrible, 1-2 up after 10 minutes and kicked 6 bad wides in that time too. We should have been out of sight after 15 mins. Once Offaly saw that we had let them off the hook their confidence grew and they were the better team after that. Fifteen minutes into the second half we had 1-3 on the board, that's 35 minutes without a score after dominating the first 10 minutes. When we finally started to play we brought it back to one point but it was way too late.
Absolutely sickened by that display and by some of the wides by our "star players".. Great to see Tom Shiel get a run near the end but he should have been brought in a half time in my opinion. We needed someone then to give us a boost but it never happened and he might have been the man to do just that. Taking Eoin Buggie from centre back for the second half and putting him in at corner forward backfired badly. They came at us in waves and walked through the middle of the park when he was gone. When Byrne had to go off with an injury at half time surely the simple thing to do would be to send in Shiel then and leave Buggie where he was ???
Final score was 2-09 to 2-08..
Laois can hold their head high after that performance, after all they did come second on the night. Only fault was maybe the manager not bringing on maybe Jimmy Baldwin or Eanna Burke on the square. Also was Buggsy injured or why didnt he tog out?
Quote from: TheOppurtunist on March 15, 2017, 09:52:18 PM
Laois can hold their head high after that performance, after all they did come second on the night. Only fault was maybe the manager not bringing on maybe Jimmy Baldwin or Eanna Burke on the square. Also was Buggsy injured or why didnt he tog out?
If you're not first you're last.
Who's to blame for this defeat? Or are we gonna complain about missed opportunities and how we left it behind! This has to go down to bad management the line terrible stupid decisions another inexperienced manager giving this job and probably will walk away now, hopefully he does. shocking loss to take.
Quote from: Tintin84 on March 15, 2017, 09:54:51 PM
Who's to blame for this defeat? Or are we gonna complain about missed opportunities and how we left it behind! This has to go down to bad management the line terrible stupid decisions another inexperienced manager giving this job and probably will walk away now, hopefully he does. shocking loss to take.
Offaly probably one of the blames for the defeat. Managerial decisions also very poor , manager needs to get in the sea, #Regretamine
Quote from: Tintin84 on March 15, 2017, 09:54:51 PM
Who's to blame for this defeat? Or are we gonna complain about missed opportunities and how we left it behind! This has to go down to bad management the line terrible stupid decisions another inexperienced manager giving this job and probably will walk away now, hopefully he does. shocking loss to take.
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Quote from: Tintin84 on March 15, 2017, 09:54:51 PM
Who's to blame for this defeat? Or are we gonna complain about missed opportunities and how we left it behind! This has to go down to bad management the line terrible stupid decisions another inexperienced manager giving this job and probably will walk away now, hopefully he does. shocking loss to take.
Its only an underage game, put away the pitchfork.
another sign of shite management,,im sorry im so dissapointed at the defeat last night,,,to me we should have been beating offaly fekn hell,,putiing buggie up top was criminal im just deflated ,,creedon kavanagh the lot for me have been the worst to date lads im sorry
Quote from: town1980 on March 16, 2017, 09:41:21 AM
another sign of shite management,,im sorry im so dissapointed at the defeat last night,,,to me we should have been beating offaly fekn hell,,putiing buggie up top was criminal im just deflated ,,creedon kavanagh the lot for me have been the worst to date lads im sorry
One point from play. I'm no fan of Kavanagh, but not even I could beat him with that stick. Your agenda shines through once more.
That was a sickening abysmal performance. If you leave the management to one side for a minute and actually think back to some of the decisions the players made on the ball....wing back with a free kick in the second half, he turned back to pass it, turned forward, turned back again, then literally shrugged his shoulders and drove the ball out over the far sideline in frustration...brian daly making a great drive along the line under the stand to get to the end line and then try hook a ball over his shoulder from an impossible angle... Sean Moore losing a great ball that was at least 80/20 in his favour and Offaly going up the field from it and killing us with a goal...the pick of the bunch was our free on our 21 under the stand, where was it passed to? It was kicked 80 yards across and backwards to the tunnel corner flag where Cooney in goals had to tear after it to keep it from going out for a 45... It was diabolical stuff. Game should have been wrapped up after 20 mins. Kicked 9 wides after going 1-02 up..even half up them converted would have finished Offaly off. And lads...give up the bullshite with the Beano comparisons....enough said.
Quote from: The Saint on March 16, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
That was a sickening abysmal performance. If you leave the management to one side for a minute and actually think back to some of the decisions the players made on the ball....wing back with a free kick in the second half, he turned back to pass it, turned forward, turned back again, then literally shrugged his shoulders and drove the ball out over the far sideline in frustration...brian daly making a great drive along the line under the stand to get to the end line and then try hook a ball over his shoulder from an impossible angle... Sean Moore losing a great ball that was at least 80/20 in his favour and Offaly going up the field from it and killing us with a goal...the pick of the bunch was our free on our 21 under the stand, where was it passed to? It was kicked 80 yards across and backwards to the tunnel corner flag where Cooney in goals had to tear after it to keep it from going out for a 45... It was diabolical stuff. Game should have been wrapped up after 20 mins. Kicked 9 wides after going 1-02 up..even half up them converted would have finished Offaly off. And lads...give up the bullshite with the Beano comparisons....enough said.
while this is a decent Summary your last line doesn't help anyone ... ::)
Laois players were brutal on the night bad decisions on the ball all night certainly cost us..
Moore was a little bit off on the night but he was well marshalled by a very good full back and Laois didn't get on the ball in the half forward line to get him quality balls that he got against Louth.
The wind blowing into the corner was difficult to judge for Laois in the first half as balls that looked to curl over from our players in the first ten minutes seemed to tail off the same side on a few occasions.
Offaly had the same problem late on when they kicked a few wides on the same side.
It was frustrating to be so dominant and to be only 1-2 up after 18 minutes.
When Offaly burst into life it seemed to knock our lads for six and we just lost all shape and confidence on the ball.Daly seemed to just play his own game and didn't care about passing etc...
Connolly won a few breaks in midfield(of which we didn't win many)but was then subbed????Why??
O'Reilly has a terrible habbit when we loose the ball in senior and yesterday of just running back towards his own goals not looking at the shape of play or anything I've noticed this about him for a while..He is a great athlete but his game positioning when not playing in the backs needs to be worked on.
Luttrell wasn't 100% fit which didn't help our midfield situation.
All in all a disappointing night.
I won't be slating management or the players as Keyboard warriors do.
They don't go out to loose.
Yes I thought a few or the changes didn't help last night and Shields should have been on earlier but Kavanagh's changes worked against Louth so you take the good with the bad.
P.S When we had it back to point near the end Buggie was fouled before he picked it up off the ground it was a terrible call from the ref Offaly scored a point from a free from this and won the game ...So as bad as we were and as much as we didn't deserve it we were that close to getting a draw.
Its grand, if the players learn from it, its grand. A final appearance would have been nice, but a nice stinging defeat can sometimes do wonders at underage. Thats if they use it. Best of luck to Offaly, they enjoyed that one.
Well said lot of stupid basic errors, But does that not come down to training are they not told what to do with free kicks ie keep everything quick short free kicks they just lacked leadership terrible performance and hopefully the last that Gary Kavanagh will be involved with, 1 season of management experience and he gets the u21 job pure stupidity, You'd swear he had pull within the county board to get the job!!
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 16, 2017, 10:57:01 AM
O'Reilly has a terrible habbit when we loose the ball in senior and yesterday of just running back towards his own goals not looking at the shape of play or anything I've noticed this about him for a while..He is a great athlete but his game positioning when not playing in the backs needs to be worked on.
This is an excellent point. It's not just O'Reilly either. There are very experienced senior players doing the same thing which is the reason, in my opinion, why our defending looks so poor so often. Really good team defending needs more than just everyone running back towards their own goals - defense means that play has to be affected (either by slowing up people in possession, reducing the number of options available to them, making their shooting position more difficult, etc.). It not enough to just move back in the general direction of your own goalpost! This is not the fault of O Reilly - this is about coaching.
Quote from: Don Draper on March 16, 2017, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: town1980 on March 16, 2017, 09:41:21 AM
another sign of shite management,,im sorry im so dissapointed at the defeat last night,,,to me we should have been beating offaly fekn hell,,putiing buggie up top was criminal im just deflated ,,creedon kavanagh the lot for me have been the worst to date lads im sorry
One point from play. I'm no fan of Kavanagh, but not even I could beat him with that stick. Your agenda shines through once more.
Management should have told the lads to kick the ball over the bar. Going for wides was a stupid strategy. ;)
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on March 16, 2017, 11:24:04 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on March 16, 2017, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: town1980 on March 16, 2017, 09:41:21 AM
another sign of shite management,,im sorry im so dissapointed at the defeat last night,,,to me we should have been beating offaly fekn hell,,putiing buggie up top was criminal im just deflated ,,creedon kavanagh the lot for me have been the worst to date lads im sorry
One point from play. I'm no fan of Kavanagh, but not even I could beat him with that stick. Your agenda shines through once more.
Management should have told the lads to kick the ball over the bar. Going for wides was a stupid strategy. ;)
Sometimes its the simplest things that'll trip you up. Like not telling a player how to run backwards, or forgetting to tell the players not to react and retaliate.
DON what planet are you on,,i was there last night and yes it is management,,they are supposed to organise a team ,,the senior set up took the role of u21 management so hey our seniors are doing shite that last night was shite,,creedon in fact was calling alot of shots for this u21 squad,,go do your homerwork there young man,,,i certainly have no agenda but im calling it as i see it and its just my opinion ,,i have seen our seniors with no plan and i seen our u21 side the same way ,,,i agree with tin tin on some points here management is there to coach inspire your lads to victory thats not in laois at the minute,,,
Quote from: town1980 on March 16, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
DON what planet are you on,,i was there last night and yes it is management,,they are supposed to organise a team ,,the senior set up took the role of u21 management so hey our seniors are doing shite that last night was shite,,creedon in fact was calling alot of shots for this u21 squad,,go do your homerwork there young man,,,i certainly have no agenda but im calling it as i see it and its just my opinion ,,i have seen our seniors with no plan and i seen our u21 side the same way ,,,i agree with tin tin on some points here management is there to coach inspire your lads to victory thats not in laois at the minute,,,
I'm no young man my friend, I've seen more Laois teams and managers than you ever will. You have a huge agenda, every post you make has links to a previous manager, be it getting him the job, or bemoaning him losing the job, and then criticising those that came after him in the job. Its impossible therefore to take anything you say serious, thats why I don't.
This side lost. They were dreadful on the night. Shit happens. Its underage football. Shit happens.
Quote from: Giovanni on March 16, 2017, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 16, 2017, 10:57:01 AM
O'Reilly has a terrible habbit when we loose the ball in senior and yesterday of just running back towards his own goals not looking at the shape of play or anything I've noticed this about him for a while..He is a great athlete but his game positioning when not playing in the backs needs to be worked on.
This is an excellent point. It's not just O'Reilly either. There are very experienced senior players doing the same thing which is the reason, in my opinion, why our defending looks so poor so often. Really good team defending needs more than just everyone running back towards their own goals - defense means that play has to be affected (either by slowing up people in possession, reducing the number of options available to them, making their shooting position more difficult, etc.). It not enough to just move back in the general direction of your own goalpost! This is not the fault of O Reilly - this is about coaching.
this seems to have crept into Laois teams since TOF was involved and its most annoying to look at ...How can you influence the play with your back to the ball running towards your own goal when the other team are in possession.
SOMEBODY PLEASE CORRECT THIS ITS SO FRUSTRATING TO LOOK AT.
Players last night were shouting at young Connolly to come back (onyl one of the half forwards when Offaly were on the attack whe he did Offaly just played the ball to his man across the pitch making him look bad?Was this the players who did this ..If not why not play him as a sweeper and let him attack from there which is probably his best position?
Anyway As I said Im not going down the route of personal abuse for anyone they are all there to do there best and if like someone said we can learn from this defeat going forward then all is not lost cause there is defo a few talented players among that group.
Sean Moore is playing through injury, there's no way he's 100% fit. Same with Luttrell, wasn't at full tilt. That was two big minuses.
Some of the other chaps didn't step up to the mark. Happens with young lads.
Would have to agree that the manager never should have got the job. Not that I agree town1980 is right on everything but Kavanagh's appointment stinks.
Disappointing loss but it's great to see the keyboard warriors out in force. This crop of U21 players would not be considered strong collectively-In my opinion only 3/4 of them would have realistic ambitions of progressing onto Laois senior team. You can only work with the players you have and unfortunately some of our bigger players didn't have their best games last night. Laois dominated the early stages of that game and should have had more scores on the board before the Offaly goal. It was a classic example of a young team losing composure with the concession of the goal while Offaly gained in momentum and confidence after Laois handed them a get out of jail card. It's easy with hindsight to criticise decisions made by management. Momentum was against them and management tried to alter things as a result. It didn't work which is unfortunate. For those to come on here and state Kavanagh etc should be disposed of is being ridiculous. We lost a close semi final by a point. With better luck and more accurate shooting Laois could easily have come out on the right side of that result last night. The players seem very positive about the approach to training this year and the current set-up.
I'm interested to hear what alternatives our keyboard warriors suggest to replace Creedon/Kavanagh. Maybe they should band together collectively themselves to mange all Laois inter-county teams.
Huge problems with the management team as usual from the Laois supporters
Players were not good enough last night
I have never seen anything like the standard of tackling and discipline,Moore has a bad day and the whole team crap themselves
Murphy was the only one to show
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/15/laois-pay-price-wayward-shooting-leinster-u-21-campaign-ends/
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http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/03/16/left-mountain-climb-says-u-21-manager-offaly-loss/
I have been saying it for years our players need
good COACHING in all grades but
it's just not happening.
The first development officer in a long while to show a bit of passion and organisation is colm begley. All development officers should be replaced every 5 years to keep fresh eyes and genuine interest in the job. Serious dead wood in a couple of the development coaches who seem immune to losing there jobs no matter how little they do. An odd staged picture on twitter doesn't cut it anymore
Quote from: The Saint on March 16, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
That was a sickening abysmal performance. If you leave the management to one side for a minute and actually think back to some of the decisions the players made on the ball....wing back with a free kick in the second half, he turned back to pass it, turned forward, turned back again, then literally shrugged his shoulders and drove the ball out over the far sideline in frustration...brian daly making a great drive along the line under the stand to get to the end line and then try hook a ball over his shoulder from an impossible angle... Sean Moore losing a great ball that was at least 80/20 in his favour and Offaly going up the field from it and killing us with a goal...the pick of the bunch was our free on our 21 under the stand, where was it passed to? It was kicked 80 yards across and backwards to the tunnel corner flag where Cooney in goals had to tear after it to keep it from going out for a 45... It was diabolical stuff. Game should have been wrapped up after 20 mins. Kicked 9 wides after going 1-02 up..even half up them converted would have finished Offaly off. And lads...give up the bullshite with the Beano comparisons....enough said.
Your last line leaves a bit to be desired. Did you not get a chance to post after the Louth game, or did the result and performances by some on the field not suit your style of posting?
Unfortunate, yet unsurprising given your profile.
Can those defending the set up at the moment look at who is beating us, these teams 5 years ago were seen as cannon fodder now people are putting us in the same boat. We are in a relegation spot in division 3 there is an assumption we are getting out of it. I don't think so, I think Antrim will beat us and this demoralizing show will continue. Sorry if I can not see the upside of this, sorry for calling for the managers head after 4 games but as each week passes it gets worse. Personally I have no issue with Gary Kavanagh getting the U21 job if he learns from it. He does play very open football (not sure that works) however he is young and has time to learn. Creedon on the other hand is been paid do a job he is falling short in. I would not be too annoyed if these fellas were on some sort of incentivized system where you get more for better results. For years Laois Football has appointed outside managers giving very little incentive for a Laois candidate, It seems if your from Laois it's a mark against you. I think Gary did well with Ballylinan last year, prob needed abit more experience with U21, unfortunately Gerry has never been shy in pushing Gary forward but possibly this is too early. Hopefully Gary stays with it and learns.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 17, 2017, 08:04:31 AM
Sorry if I can not see the upside of this, sorry for calling for the managers head after 4 games but as each week passes it gets worse.
The ability of the players is clearly not there at the moment. Blaming the manager for this is idiotic. Not sure how you can't see this. Creedon has a long - term plan to improve the standard of Laois football holistically from underage up. You want to bring in God knows who. Reality check needed for ya. The players aren't there and nobody can work a miracle in a few MONTHS. I'm prepared to give it time as in all reality it will take years.
BallyroanABU and Town1980 : Name who you'd put in instead of Creedon? We're all ears : give us your plan : names, how they'll be better, how much they're going to cost, is it a long-term plan, are they going to work with underage too, what? If you can't give us a good long - term plan, you're just talking nonsense to be fair.
Joe Higgins or Malachy McNulty should have got it last year, we have a whole bunch of young managers what message are we sending out when we hire what are turning out to be poor journey men. Peter Creedon won nothing with Tipperary alot of people giving him credit for winning Tipperary Minors and for Liam Kearns run last year. Well he was not the manager we ran Justin McNulty for achieving more. Creedon has been a disaster thus far. I know your loyal Tony but at what point are you going to tell us this is a disaster that is costing money that we don't have.
If we wanted Creedon to develop our standards he is clearly in the wrong job as this is not the job of the county manager he is there to win matches you have 6-10 matches max to show something otherwise there is an exit door as we are all wasting our time. Every Tom Dick& Harry talks about developing because it buys them time. Why is Sam Allerdyce continually hired in English Soccer because he gets results no one stays in a job to develop things this is clearly not the job of a manager as you are in the firing line too much to have a long term strategy.
I've no problem with Creedon. He deserves the full season before any judgement can be made. Doesn't change the fact that Kavanagh getting under 21 manager stinks.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 17, 2017, 11:02:54 AM
Joe Higgins or Malachy McNulty should have got it last year, we have a whole bunch of young managers what message are we sending out when we hire what are turning out to be poor journey men. Peter Creedon won nothing with Tipperary alot of people giving him credit for winning Tipperary Minors and for Liam Kearns run last year. Well he was not the manager we ran Justin McNulty for achieving more. Creedon has been a disaster thus far. I know your loyal Tony but at what point are you going to tell us this is a disaster that is costing money that we don't have.
If we wanted Creedon to develop our standards he is clearly in the wrong job as this is not the job of the county manager he is there to win matches you have 6-10 matches max to show something otherwise there is an exit door as we are all wasting our time. Every Tom Dick& Harry talks about developing because it buys them time. Why is Sam Allerdyce continually hired in English Soccer because he gets results no one stays in a job to develop things this is clearly not the job of a manager as you are in the firing line too much to have a long term strategy.
Ok then
Name his replacement and keep in mind we will have just sacked Creedon after barely 5 months in the job,are heading for div4 and out of the u21 Championship.
At this stage I would go for a complete miracle shot, in an ideal world Clancy and McNulty but they are not coming out of their club jobs. If money was not an object Jim McGuinness if we go outside we need to think big. If cheap and doable, I like Higgins but I would think a bit of experience longside like Jason Ryan would not be an issue. But if gun to my head Clancy and McNulty. I really think Clancy has something special and we would be stupid not to give him the job at some point.
Clancy has had 3years in club management and won nothing which is one of your arguements against creedon yet you want him to replace creedon after 4league games. Come on man he has done a half decent job with us last 2 years but thats about it, it wasnt like we were exactly shocking the likes of the heath and portlaoise was it
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt sometimes.
keep dreaming ballyroanabu, Jim McG ain't going anywhere near laois. Clancy hasn't proven that he's anywhere near inter county management material. McNulty isn't an option at the moment. Then you say think big but you mention Joe Higgans and Jason Ryan, a man who did a woeful job with Kildare. Leave it so, let Creedon have the season at least before we judge. Bit of realism needed.
I said Clancy has something special and in my opinion will achieve success wherever he goes. So far your man Creedon has been absolutely dire, you keep going on about players the standard of division 3 football is brutal. We have the players to compete at this level but our manager is poor where have got this unshakeable belief that this guy is the man. Creedon has lost to Tipperary, Louth & Sligo these are not top rank teams we do not have to have great teams to beat these. If anybody wants to have a bet with me on Graiguecullen who have not won championship in 50 years winning this year. I will take 14/1 same price as Paddy Powers I willing to put my money where my mouth is on Clancy. Not a great coach but has something else.
BallyroanAbbey Creedon is crap and on Sunday we will lose against Antrim and I predict a relegation this year and an early exit in the championship. Creedon of course will hang for time talking about development and improving performances. But there is no better indicator of performance that points won. I actually think Clancy did a massive job in Ballyroan completely underrated in our club I know he turned down more money in Ballyroan to go to Graigue.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 17, 2017, 11:37:48 AM
At this stage I would go for a complete miracle shot, in an ideal world Clancy and McNulty but they are not coming out of their club jobs. If money was not an object Jim McGuinness if we go outside we need to think big. If cheap and doable, I like Higgins but I would think a bit of experience longside like Jason Ryan would not be an issue. But if gun to my head Clancy and McNulty. I really think Clancy has something special and we would be stupid not to give him the job at some point.
this is what i said in September 2016
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on September 27, 2016, 09:00:19 AM
How can saying this appointment is a waste of time be stupid, at worst it's a different opinion. Peter Creedon is a low profile appointment who will at best keep us in Division 3 at worst relegate us to Division 4. The County Board by going this way is continually showing short-term behavior when have they stopped and asked what is going wrong with Laois Football ? They have continually kept their heads down and avoided criticism they are volunteers and maybe that is not in their remit. But under their stewardship Laois Football is now at it's lowest point in over 30 years. So if you think Peter Creedon is going to sort all this by being a good manager well good for him. I just think Laois Football is in bigger trouble than just needing a new manager. I think at this stage we are very much like Offaly which is quite amazing considering where we were over 4 years ago. It wont be too long before people on here are dancing over a promotion to Division 3 from Division 4. Laois need to have a strategic look at what they are doing not appointing a manager who at best is low profile to fire fight what is now a disaster.
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Read above Tony, rather one day as lion Tony than a life time as a lamb. P.S I still think you are Peter O Neill
Creedon has had half a team to pick from ffs ..
He may or may not be a success but judge him when he has a full squad
Hes had 4 league games with half a squad
Sometimes patience is called for .. just ask alex ferguson in his first season at utd ..
He won't ever have a full squad by the summer things will be so bad we will have 4-5 in America.
so you want clancy to take over, a man with little managerial experience at club level never mind county level, and failed to produce one significant victory in his 2 years to date, even on clancy it would be unfair on him, long term we will see, graigue are a step up from ballyroan abbey and if he did well there you could talk about giving him an u21 job/selector role because its a process. If Laois's shooting was anyway decent the other night we would of finished the game off in the first 15 minutes and we'd be talking about preparing for a leinster final and the progress that creedon is having with the younger players. Instead they lose by a point and lost a couple of league games with a few experimental selections and you want the man ran? delusional.
BallyroanAbbey I said in an ideal world give it to Clancy or McNulty as you could not possibly do any worse than whats been going on for the last 5 years. "if" is a big word and in fairness it never matters. If Creedon wins on Sunday I am sure they will all be on here telling me his turned a corner and what a clown I am. But happily I am ok with being a clown. I think an appointment like Clancy or McNulty is progressive it's outside the norm of what Laois do and ITS A GAMBLE there is loads of upside and very little downside. We can't get much worse, I am looking more right about Creedon each week it's not fair or right that we should get rid of at end of the League but idiotic managers like him are costing Laois Football in spades. I said it TOF, Lillis and now Creedon we don't have the time or money to continue this, fans are voting with their feet their is no buzz in Laois Football does anyone honestly think this is good for Laois Football. It's not the done thing to sack a manager early but is leaving this farce to continue any better.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 17, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
I said Clancy has something special and in my opinion will achieve success wherever he goes. So far your man Creedon has been absolutely dire, you keep going on about players the standard of division 3 football is brutal. We have the players to compete at this level but our manager is poor where have got this unshakeable belief that this guy is the man. Creedon has lost to Tipperary, Louth & Sligo these are not top rank teams we do not have to have great teams to beat these. If anybody wants to have a bet with me on Graiguecullen who have not won championship in 50 years winning this year. I will take 14/1 same price as Paddy Powers I willing to put my money where my mouth is on Clancy. Not a great coach but has something else.
BallyroanAbbey Creedon is crap and on Sunday we will lose against Antrim and I predict a relegation this year and an early exit in the championship. Creedon of course will hang for time talking about development and improving performances. But there is no better indicator of performance that points won. I actually think Clancy did a massive job in Ballyroan completely underrated in our club I know he turned down more money in Ballyroan to go to Graigue.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 17, 2017, 11:37:48 AM
At this stage I would go for a complete miracle shot, in an ideal world Clancy and McNulty but they are not coming out of their club jobs. If money was not an object Jim McGuinness if we go outside we need to think big. If cheap and doable, I like Higgins but I would think a bit of experience longside like Jason Ryan would not be an issue. But if gun to my head Clancy and McNulty. I really think Clancy has something special and we would be stupid not to give him the job at some point.
this is what i said in September 2016
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on September 27, 2016, 09:00:19 AM
How can saying this appointment is a waste of time be stupid, at worst it's a different opinion. Peter Creedon is a low profile appointment who will at best keep us in Division 3 at worst relegate us to Division 4. The County Board by going this way is continually showing short-term behavior when have they stopped and asked what is going wrong with Laois Football ? They have continually kept their heads down and avoided criticism they are volunteers and maybe that is not in their remit. But under their stewardship Laois Football is now at it's lowest point in over 30 years. So if you think Peter Creedon is going to sort all this by being a good manager well good for him. I just think Laois Football is in bigger trouble than just needing a new manager. I think at this stage we are very much like Offaly which is quite amazing considering where we were over 4 years ago. It wont be too long before people on here are dancing over a promotion to Division 3 from Division 4. Laois need to have a strategic look at what they are doing not appointing a manager who at best is low profile to fire fight what is now a disaster.
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Read above Tony, rather one day as lion Tony than a life time as a lamb. P.S I still think you are Peter O Neill
Tipp got to an All Ireland semi final,when was the last time we managed that?
We have one Leinster since '46,by the way your talking you'd swear we were a Cork or Down or god forbid an Offaly a former top rank team fallen on hard times and the county board and team management trying to sate supporters high expectations based on past successes.
A reality check is badly needed
But he wasn't the manager. Seriously that's like saying Jose Mourino is responsible for Chelsea this season and I am delusional.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 17, 2017, 11:37:48 AM
At this stage I would go for a complete miracle shot, in an ideal world Clancy and McNulty but they are not coming out of their club jobs. If money was not an object Jim McGuinness if we go outside we need to think big. If cheap and doable, I like Higgins but I would think a bit of experience longside like Jason Ryan would not be an issue. But if gun to my head Clancy and McNulty. I really think Clancy has something special and we would be stupid not to give him the job at some point.
Jim McGuinness taking over a team on the way to Division 4?! To a county who sacked a respected manager after 4 months?! One for whom Micko wasn't even good enough for at the end?!
Yer all f**king nuts lads, but its great entertainment all the same.
Best post of the year don!! ;D
I did say McGuinness if money was not an issue, I reckon Creedon's continued appointement will cost prob €100000 in just fan apathy the rest of this year. I reckon we will have less than 1000 at remaining matches where if things going well we would have 2500 plus at matches.
It is just laughable that Creedon is being blamed for the state of Laois football. By focusing on the manager, it distracts from the real culprits, the county board, the schools and the clubs.
Offaly are not a bad team in my opinion. No shame in being turned over. We're not as bad as we showed and with a bit more composure, who knows what direction the game would have gone in. No need for all out panic. Some of these lads are well capable of being developed, and obviously, some are not. I worry about how flakey we are under pressure (in all ages and codes) and our failure to grasp what is required of players in their positions. I'm looking at lads who could be ruined if we don't put them in a position where they can be seen at their best. Whoever thought of playing James Kelly as a corner back has no understanding of defensive attributes, yet many coaches have followed suit. No fault of his own, and he remains a great prospect, but just not at corner back. Just one example......
QuoteI did say McGuinness if money was not an issue, I reckon Creedon's continued appointement will cost prob €100000 in just fan apathy the rest of this year. I reckon we will have less than 1000 at remaining matches where if things going well we would have 2500 plus at matches.
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That is an absolutely bonkers statement. I'd like to wish you well in your new job doing the accounts for Donald Trump, he'd love a lad like you inventing numbers for him. Good Jazus.