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Just one more week till this thing is over. Has there ever been a greater platform for self-righteous phoneys(on both sides)? From John Waters(and there's loads more like him on the No side), with his "how dare you interrupt me from saving thousands of babies from their black-capped executioners with your perfectly reasonable questions" outburst, to Yes voters getting outraged over phrases like "abortion on demand"(I've no issue with people voting for abortion but for jaysus sake be honest about what you're voting for), both sides of this debate have been sickening.

The only worthwhile and persuasive element of the debate that I've heard were the stories of women who've travelled full of shame and fear to England for abortions. That, allied to the laughable hypocrisy of our constitution which protects their right to travel for abortions is enough reason to vote yes.

Thank God there's another fantastic weekend of sport in store so we can escape from listening to the pontificators.

This.

The extremes on both sides of this debate are both particularly obnoxious.

Can wait until it's over.  If I had a vote I'd probably be voting yes but it's not a no-brainer for me.

Totally agree obnoxious arrogant people on both sides pointing out the obnoxious arrogant people on the other.
Best example is the sign on belbulben. No stick it up, cheap stunt. Yes moan about how outrageous it is. Yes side wreck it, cheap stunt. No side point cry about hypocritical no yes side.

What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.

Is that a question or statement?

Sorry should have read there is a reason why he was not captain.

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Rte primetime I think showed stats on portugal showing more than 1:5 pregnancies were aborted. Obviously they didn't present a thesis on it. I just thought I'd bring it up again as Sid previously rubbished it. I believe those numbers to be accurate but im going to vote yes in any case.

What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.

Is that a question or statement?

What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

Its hard to know. The question is whether the lads wont join the panel as its Matty in charge or whether the lads are a useless shower and Matty done very well to get us to Div 1. I think either way he will get another year based on the promotion.

I've just watched Prime Time and there's something I don't understand about the material they covered.

They looked at Portugal and how many abortions they had in 2008 and then how many over the next few years. They told us how many per pregnancy were aborted and then they told how many women of child-bearing age per thousand had abortions and more and more stats.

My question is, who is this type of information supposed to sway? It's anything but a black and white issue, but at the same time is anyone on this board going to be swayed either way by these numbers?

If you're against abortion then you're against one abortion, two abortions or ten thousand abortions. If you're pro-choice then you'll realise that there are currently, say for argument's sake, 2,000 Irish women having abortions per year. If you're told that this will double or treble in the next ten years, are you going to take the view that that's too many so you'll vote No instead?

Surely the decision is based on how you view life and how you view choice and not on a rising scale of abortions?

I also heard Simon Harris on the radio today fielding questions from "numerous listeners" who wanted to know if the money to pay for these abortions is going to come at the expense of other healthcare areas. People might actually vote based on how much this is going to cost?

Am I missing something here or is there a sizeable portion of the electorate that are thinking this way?

Good point I'm not at least

However this seemed to start from the yes side saying that the no side is making stuff up. Especially about the ratio of babies born v aborted. When in actual fact it seems to be higher in eng and Wales than the no side were actually saying. Seems like the yes side are crying foul when they have nothing to cry foul about.

And sorry to add fuel to the fire but Tbh I think it's all side of yes side tactic of trying to paint the no side as ignorant buffoons and to influence voters by guilt by association.

But you are right when it boils down to it this is a vote on the 99% of abortions that are carried out on healthy consensual pregnancies  which at the end of the day is a straight up choice between life of the child v choice of the mother

I think you are dead right.
This has shown me the yes side are well able to spout lies too however I'm inclined to vote yes I think when all is balanced up. I just hope the government put systems in place to properly support women thinking of having an abortion and present them with all options.

Someone rubbished 1:5 stat I mentioned earlier. Looking at prime time 1:5 seems reasonable assumption based on many countries.

Mattie reckons Dara should get the team ready for the qualifiers.

Thought that was a joke. Matty getting well paid to get players up for the matches.

Miss C ( from famous c case) on RTE news asking yes side to stop using her as an example for why to vote yes and also advocating a No vote.

So how to intermediate and junior club finals in counties generate such excitement for the clubs attending?

I am convinced 2nd tier competition is a great idea it just needs to be properly sold and promoted and written into TV contracts - you want the big games, you need to show these games too. The problem is the complete balls that the Tommy Murphy cup has soured peoples opinions on what it could be like.

Was listening to the wearecavan podcast yesterday. It made for interesting listening but it was pretty depressing. Paul Fitz had a suggestion to get an independent person to go interview the lads who are not on the panel, the huge amount of players who do not want to or cannot play for us. See what the cause is and what could be done. I think that was a really good idea. We have no chance to survive in Div 1 next year unless we can get the best players in Cavan pulling together. It is really sad to think a county with our history and football heritage cannot get our best players out to the extent that people  from the county wont even bother go to watch them.

The comparison made to Monaghan, a smaller county with a lesser heritage, was stark. They don't lose players.

Bob Geldof is appealing on men to vote Yes.  Krusty the clown wasn't available.
Why the f**k do people think we will allow Geldof Bono etc influence how we vote

Those two pricks should have been aborted so maybe that's a good reason to vote yes alright

There's the famous "respect" that the No side pride themselves on.

I'm probably voting YES buddy, but if you dont like my respect then maybe you should now vote NO?
No apologies from me for having zero respect for those two embarrassing hypocrites.

Bob Geldof is appealing on men to vote Yes.  Krusty the clown wasn't available.
Why the f**k do people think we will allow Geldof Bono etc influence how we vote

Those two pricks should have been aborted so maybe that's a good reason to vote yes alright

You're wretched.

For someone who supports abortion you get awful squeamish when I bring it up. Poor precious.

What else would you expect from Fine Gael weasels. Leo:"it's now how we do things" how about f**k off Leo and grow a set

There is an EU foreign minister so countries can't go on solo runs.

What do you mean? What can't a EU country do?

Who is he and what's his Twitter account?

Bob Geldof is appealing on men to vote Yes.  Krusty the clown wasn't available.
Why the f**k do people think we will allow Geldof Bono etc influence how we vote

Those two pricks should have been aborted so maybe that's a good reason to vote yes alright