Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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seafoid

They are taking a hatchet to the UK Civil Service. Dissent not tolerated. Maybe the Brexit and US politics discussions should be merged.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

moysider

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 24, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn't put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

armaghniac

Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 24, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn't put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

They can, but they would have to repudiate the withdrawal agreement to do that.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

There is a lot of thunder and lightning from Johnson but it's always
about something he has signed up the UK to. The Euros are expecting a theatrical exit from the talks in June followed by a theatrical deal in September.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

https://twitter.com/cirian75/status/1234424692896882688

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been stopped by No. 10 from going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.

Just let that sink in

@BorisJohnson
has stopped the Health Secretary going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

weareros

Quote from: seafoid on March 03, 2020, 09:06:21 PM
https://twitter.com/cirian75/status/1234424692896882688

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been stopped by No. 10 from going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.

Just let that sink in

@BorisJohnson
has stopped the Health Secretary going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.

Didn't Hancock say 500,000 Brits would die from the virus. He must have Boris scared.

moysider

Quote from: armaghniac on March 03, 2020, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 24, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn't put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

They can, but they would have to repudiate the withdrawal agreement to do that.

And the consequences would be?
I would be surprised if some kind of hard border is not put in place.

armaghniac

Quote from: moysider on March 03, 2020, 11:19:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 03, 2020, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 24, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn't put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

They can, but they would have to repudiate the withdrawal agreement to do that.

And the consequences would be?
I would be surprised if some kind of hard border is not put in place.

Repudiating any international agreement is not a good plan and they'll need some sort of relationship with the EU. If they screw up NI then the US Congress, the Canadians, Australians and whoever else the EU can persuade will be unwilling to make deals either.

The British may have tried to  get the border in on the sly, but having publicly made an agreement that a hard border is damaging for peace then they have very bad public relations from doing so. Of course you then have calls for a border poll here, but the Scots also can point to London having acted in bad faith. 
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid


   https://www.ft.com/content/b1c7f0b6-5c6e-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98

   "The British will insist on their right to diverge from EU law but will assure the Europeans that, in practice, they will retain social and environmental standards that are at least as stringent as those of the EU.

This is rather like a child insisting that it will determine its own bedtime but indicating that, in practice, it will go to bed at 8pm as normal."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

five points

Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2020, 11:48:49 AM

   https://www.ft.com/content/b1c7f0b6-5c6e-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98

   "The British will insist on their right to diverge from EU law but will assure the Europeans that, in practice, they will retain social and environmental standards that are at least as stringent as those of the EU.

This is rather like a child insisting that it will determine its own bedtime but indicating that, in practice, it will go to bed at 8pm as normal."

No, its more like determining its own bedtime but promising to go to bed at least as early as the adults.

seafoid

The political economy of Brexit collapsed with the news that a trade deal with the US would add just 0.16% to GDP after 15 years. All Johnson can do now is act as though he has power . https://ft.com/content/3aef20b0-5c8f-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98...


"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

bennydorano

All not rosey in the EU garden.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Marathon talks over EU virus rescue package stall
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52211650

This article aside, an Italian exit from the EU has to be an increasingly real possibility.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: bennydorano on April 08, 2020, 03:47:20 PM
All not rosey in the EU garden.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Marathon talks over EU virus rescue package stall
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52211650

This article aside, an Italian exit from the EU has to be an increasingly real possibility.

I think they are seriously f**ked off with the Dutch and Germans right now.
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Rossfan

How will the rest of the world be sorted out?
Surely the IMF and the like must be able to come up with some "New Deal" to assist Countries who have had to splash out money they haven't got to fight the Virus.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

mouview

I've noticed this slant from the Torygraph increasingly over the past week or two. Things must be really bad when it starts questioning / doubting No. 10. A severe case of 'buyers regret' setting in at last I'd say;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/13/keir-starmer-took-boris-johnson-apart-like-duplo-train-set/