Should An Glenn object?

Started by OrchardOrange, January 24, 2023, 11:37:12 AM

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AI club final controversy

Yes - Typical Dubs up to no good as usual
30 (19.1%)
No - Typical Nordies causing mischief as usual
21 (13.4%)
Should not have to. GAA HQ should already have called a replay
106 (67.5%)

Total Members Voted: 157

Voting closed: January 26, 2023, 11:37:12 AM

WT4E

Can't see how kilmacud can object

Olly

Is it  true that Glen wouldn't help Slaughtneil out when they needed a pitch when they were going flat out on all fronts?
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armaghniac

They shouldn't replay the game but just retake the free. Get everyone together and if Watty's can get a  goal in one play from a free then they keep the cup. Kilmacud only allowed 15 men this time.
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Walter Cronc

Quote from: Olly on January 28, 2023, 12:38:35 AM
Is it  true that Glen wouldn't help Slaughtneil out when they needed a pitch when they were going flat out on all fronts?

Lay off the kool-aid Olly you clampit!

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/01/28/we-should-be-screaming-about-survey-on-problem-gambling-among-intercounty-gaa-players/

I went for lunch on Wednesday with a dear friend who, to put it mildly, wouldn't be big into sport. She has nothing against it, it's just a world that lies behind a door she has never felt the urge to open. A typical text message: "Going to be over your way today around 3.30, might drop by?" That was the day of the 2021 All-Ireland final.

Anyway, we met for a bowl of soup on Wednesday and her first question, even before we'd hung our coats on the backs of the chairs, was, "Well, is there going to be a replay?"
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Hound

Quote from: WT4E on January 28, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
Can't see how kilmacud can object
Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.

lenny

Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2023, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: WT4E on January 28, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
Can't see how kilmacud can object
Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.

That's how I see it also.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2023, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: WT4E on January 28, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
Can't see how kilmacud can object
Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.

Careful, you'll be called a stupid door for using logic like that!!
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Gael80

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Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2023, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: WT4E on January 28, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
Can't see how kilmacud can object
Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.


Crokes can try to blame the officials, but it's a dangerous precedent being set if Crokes win the All Ireland on the back of it.

Not saying Crokes did this but imagine how teams going forward could cause chaos and confusion at a critical point in a game throwing on sub after sub whilst trying to defend a lead. If they end up with one or two extra defenders to see out the game/win ahh sure it's the officials fault, nothing to do with us, we won the game fairly.

seafoid

KC are probably angling for a fine rather than a replay. Rules don't work via manipulation.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Milltown Row2

Imagine it was an unintentional mistake on both the officials and KC and  social has driven this ?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

thebuzz

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 27, 2023, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 27, 2023, 09:02:16 PM
seafoid, you have over 100 posts on this topic... take a break...obsessed

And him from Galway
What have Galway got to do with kilmacud anyway, miles away
Good one Hoof 😀😀😀

thebuzz

Doherty and Glass are starting against Limerick tomorrow so they're not waiting for any replay.

Silver hill

Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2023, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: WT4E on January 28, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
Can't see how kilmacud can object
Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.


All irrelevant. They had 17 players on the field of play....it's not a credible defence to say 'he didn't know he had to go off' if that was the case then every future defence in rule breaking will be we didn't know. Wise up and stop being so naive.

SHEEDY

Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2023, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: WT4E on January 28, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
Can't see how kilmacud can object
Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.
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