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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: Today at 02:15:47 AM »

The blame for these deaths and all those gun deaths in the US lies at the door of the GOP. If you vote or support them, then you're complicit. It's really that simple.

It lies at the door of all politicians
Why haven Democratic Senators not tried to reform gun laws? get it to the floor and see who will and wont support changes to the laws? I keep hearing its pointless because the GOP wont allow it to pass or the next change in majority will overturn this. They wont do it because they are protecting their own political ass. Why is Joe not trying to make change?

One of the most progressive gun reforms in the last number or years happened in Florida driven by Rick Scott, yep, he is a Republican. Yet in a state like Illinois where there are two Democratic Senators its legal to buy a gun at 18, and every week there are 10's of deaths in Chicago where again there is a Democratic Mayor.

The deaths of these kids and people for the last 30 odd years lays with both political parties.

Mitch McConnell can either filibuster a vote or refuse to put it on the floor, depending on whether he is minority or majority leader. The Dems need 60 votes to bypass a filibuster. They have 50. We’ll see whether they’ll get 10 Republicans if next weeks talks about to anything worthwhile. I seriously doubt it.

And Illinois can have all the gun restrictions they want, but it doesn’t mean shit when you drive a few miles up or down the road to Indiana or one of the other bordering states were gun laws, if any, are far more lenient.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 27, 2022, 08:56:09 PM »

Fair fucks to Beto O’Rourke.

About time a Democratic politician showed some balls and confronted these ghouls.

Let’s hope we see plenty more of this.

The likes of Abott are absolutely enabling these mass murderers. Hit them over the head with it. They’ve no answer.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - won the lot under Klopp

« on: May 27, 2022, 05:56:04 PM »

I think all else being equal, Liverpool are a superior team.

However, Liverpool have looked very leggy over the past few weeks. Not surprising, obviously.

If it goes to extra time, I can seriously see Liverpool playing for penalties as they'll be out on their feet. It was a similar situation in the FA Cup Final.

On the other hand, they may be the sharper side earlier on, so hopefully a good, fast start to put them in the driver's seat.

A repeat of their 2019 start wouldn't go amiss.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 27, 2022, 04:18:16 PM »

Lots of questions to be answered by local authorities and whoever else was there , lucky a border patrol agent responded to the situation and took the piece of crap out . Ironic that most of the posters responding would like that agency to be disbanded .

The border police? What a stupid stupid part to put in at the end. Armed police who have no issues squeezing the life out of people for traffic offences stay out of the building because of fear of being shot.. in turn this manic who on his 18th birthday buys guns, goes to a school and kills kids. But you focus your post on people wanting to disband border police!

What a twaty thing to concentrate on

pointing out who actually went in and shot the guy and what agency he represents is twaty ?
You normally are only worried about the color of the attacker and if he surrendered or was shot .
An 18 year old buying 2 rifles is insane and that law should be changed but dreaming that law abiding people are giving up any guns is not realistic.
The police in the USA are demoralized and doing a terrible job in most parts of the country for a number of reasons and for the last few years seem to be more interested in staying out of any situation that may be dangerous of controversial and are trying to hang in there to get out with a 95% pension when the time comes . Ps they are not the ruc

Right now its not realistic, because the GOP and the NRA have made unfettered access to any kind of weapon a central plank in the culture wars and they are currently an extremely powerful political force.

But when it comes down to it, do the majority of gun enthusiasts really want everyone, everywhere to have unfettered access to military-grade weaponry?

Do they have a logical argument against why someone should not have:

1. to complete a proper background check, like you now have to do for many jobs or to even to get TSA pre-check/global entry membership?
2. to complete a proper gun safety course?
3. to have a gun permit?
4. access to the ownership of assault weapons without some very good reason?

Do the majority of police really want to be dealing with untrained, unrestricted members of the public who are in possession of weapons and protective gear that wouldn't look out of place on a battlefield?

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 27, 2022, 04:00:58 PM »

Lots of questions to be answered by local authorities and whoever else was there , lucky a border patrol agent responded to the situation and took the piece of crap out . Ironic that most of the posters responding would like that agency to be disbanded .

The border police? What a stupid stupid part to put in at the end. Armed police who have no issues squeezing the life out of people for traffic offences stay out of the building because of fear of being shot.. in turn this manic who on his 18th birthday buys guns, goes to a school and kills kids. But you focus your post on people wanting to disband border police!

What a twaty thing to concentrate on

pointing out who actually went in and shot the guy and what agency he represents is twaty ?
You normally are only worried about the color of the attacker and if he surrendered or was shot .
An 18 year old buying 2 rifles is insane and that law should be changed but dreaming that law abiding people are giving up any guns is not realistic.
The police in the USA are demoralized and doing a terrible job in most parts of the country for a number of reasons and for the last few years seem to be more interested in staying out of any situation that may be dangerous of controversial and are trying to hang in there to get out with a 95% pension when the time comes . Ps they are not the ruc

GMAC-all the extreme lefties I follow on Twitter are using this as an opportunity to demonize Border Patrol. It’s disgusting

Yes, extremists, in general, are morons.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 27, 2022, 12:25:51 PM »

These politicians are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think arming teachers and putting an armed vet in every school is the answer. The shooters, like this guy this week, will just equip themselves so that they can shoot their way past. Its utter madness. Anything to avoid the bleeding obvious fact that the ludicrous availability and access to these weapons is the issue.

And then you get the other "argument" - "what's an assault weapon?" Or "there's no such thing as an assault rifle". Go away to f**k.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 27, 2022, 09:11:08 AM »

Never mind that I doubt if a single person here has EVER asserted that the border patrol should be disbanded.

But, then you look at which poster is making the claim…

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 26, 2022, 10:58:14 PM »

The big worry from a Donegal perspective (and I've seen a few former players and managers saying this too) is hunger. I've no doubt we can match or even better them on a football basis, but I'm less certain we will be able to live with the intensity and fight Derry will bring. They're going to be super-confident after their performances so far and their almost pipping us last year. We've shown in previous years that when the chips are down, we cannot always be relied on to dig deep and keep performing and keep our composure when the physical intensity and effort is put in by our opponents. Mayo 2019, Cavan 2020 being the two primary examples. To their credit, they hung in there in the first half against Cavan this year, but I think Derry will bring a lot more to the table than Cavan did.

We'll know 15 minutes in whether Donegal are up for the fight.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 26, 2022, 09:41:19 PM »

22nd victim. The grief-stricken husband of one of the teachers who was killed died today of a heart attack. They leave behind four kids, three of them teenagers.

Makes your f**king blood boil.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 26, 2022, 08:51:06 PM »

Ted unable to answer simple questions

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1529729614309900290

Of course he can't.

Because he has no moral or intellectual argument to make to defend his position.

And he can't admit the truth which is that himself and his party are hopelessly compromised by the extremism and paranoia of their base and the money and influence of the NRA.

So instead he starts blathering nonsensically about Democrats and the media and politicization.

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices

« on: May 26, 2022, 07:59:58 PM »

Brilliant, charismatic actor.

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General discussion / Re: The AS Roma Thread

« on: May 25, 2022, 10:40:44 PM »

That's just who Mourinho is. He'll never change.

When Porto won the CL in 2004, he rushed off the podium after the presentation, removing his medal and making a show of how his work with these lads was done, now it was on to the real stuff at Chelsea.

Its always all about him.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 25, 2022, 10:33:03 PM »

Yeah start the ball rolling, and if those reforms take shape and prove positive then brilliant. My thoughts on why it’s pointless I’d based it on listening to the nut jobs on the radio these last two days talking about never giving up their rights!!

it’s a pity they didn’t start it after Sandy Hook.

It did start.

Mitch McConnell was happy to block everything they tried. Over those kids dead bodies, basically.

Say what you want about McConnell and his lack of morality and decency, but he is an absolute master of his job.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 25, 2022, 10:29:15 PM »

Why isn't Biden doing something about this?

What can he actually do, what can any president do that can't be turned over by the next clampit that comes in? If they the stormed the capital over the 'vote' fixing what would happen if they stopped people from having guns?  Be carnage, the senator Cruz says that the staff need to tool up and and defend the kids better... Someone needs to tool up and go to his grandsons school and use their right to bear arms, though listening to him he'd blame the teachers

That’s pathetic. “I’ll do nothing because the next guy might undo”. Try leading the country for a change. Yeah there’s a host of conservative gun nuts but there’s bound to be enough mid-line senators and congressmen to push through some kind of gun reform.

It is pathetic and it happens a lot over there, strange place that turns a blind eye to murdering kids.

If Binden was able to, I don't think he can, what's is stopping a republican gun-slinging tooting shooting lover of the NRA from reversing that when they get into power with a big majority, as that will happen if Biden try's to put actual real reforms through?

If he tried and was successful in reforming do you not think the potential lives saved between reform and reform reversal would be worth it?
Always easier to blame the other guy or in this case party. At least try. Actions speak far more than ‘thoughts and prayers with the families’ comments that he will sadly be saying more times before he is out of office. Try at least!

But he won't be successful. The system is set up so that he can't be. White rural voters and their GOP representatives are over-represented in Congress and it is they who insist on little or no restrictions on gun control. And even if he is successful, the current Supreme Court will overturn it.

That said, I fully agree he should try. Hit these f**kers over the head with every victim. Make them get up there and defend it. Point out the insanity of their schools-as-locked-down-forts "solutions". Whatever it is, pick a message and stick to it. Don't let the country move on and forget about it. If it fails, try again.

The Republicans had massive success last year on a ludicrous campaign for the non-issue that was/is "critical race theory". Gun violence is a REAL issue. Follow their playbook and make it count.

I despise much of what the GOP stands for, but you have to give credit to them for their complete mastery of using issues, even fake bullshit ones, to motivate their voters.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture

« on: May 25, 2022, 01:56:38 PM »

Constitution aside, even if it was changed, it is still incredibly easy to get your hands on a gun in some US states.

There are almost 400 million guns in the hands of civilians in the US - thats about 120 guns for every 100 people.

It accounts for 46% of civilian held guns globally.

Those stats are mind blowing alone.....not to mention the other guns on the streets that are not accounted for.

So if the constitution changes tomorrow would it make a difference given how many guns are readily available?

Its a complete mess

So is the only alternative to do nothing?
Surely some level of gun control is better than the current situation? It might have a while to have an effect but might slowy reduce the level of gun ownership over time.

I'm pointing out this this is not the resolution that will change things in the here and now.

Granted it might slowly reduce over time (it will be a long long time) but the issue is over 400million guns are out there.

America may well have went past the point of no return when it comes to gun culture, but surely they have to try SOMETHING at this stage?
Powerful stuff from Steve Kerr in his press conference, but its unlikely to change many intrenched opinions either.
There is no simple solution to this, but banning assault rifles and having stricter background checks along side some sort of buy back scheme is bound to at least get the direction of travel going the right way?

If the will is there, they can get the guns out of circulation. Yes, it would take time, but what doesn't? As you say, buy-backs, bans, law enforcement focused on illegal weapons and trading etc.

But the logistics and details are not the problem. The lack of will is.