All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016

[Joeythelips]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0621/797102-orchard-men-to-get-second-bite-of-cherry/

So fourth official is just there to count the subs and tell the ref after so he write an accurate report

[SCFC]

If they order a replay, Armagh should concede the game. They lost on the day fair and square. Either way, I would refuse to replay the match. These GAA heads have been busting our balls all year and it's time we stood up for ourselves. They are making something out of nothing and creating publicity.

That's what I was trying to say. I'd rather refuse to replay it.

[SCFC]

Another thing. Someone's head should roll over this. What the f**k are we paying a county secretary €50K a year for?

[Andy06]

If the Laois management are saying that they checked with the 4th official and he definately gave them the go ahead, then the county board should be pro-active and put out a statement right now.
This will clarify things from our side and whats more it will get a jump on anything the GAA come out with.

Of course this is dependent on the Laois county board so the chances of them being pro-active is absolutely zilch!

[Keyser Söze]

Another thing. Someone's head should roll over this. What the f**k are we paying a county secretary €50K a year for?

I would imagine there is a team secretary?

[Giovanni]

The rule and penalties are in here on p.115 (Article 6.43)

http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/2015%20Official%20Guide%20-%20Part%201.pdf

[blueandwhite1]

Don't Armagh have to lodge an objection? Wasn't that the case for the Kildare / Offaly subs fiasco many years ago?

They were beaten fairly and squarely. Will be interesting to see if they hide behind a very minor rules infringement and insist on the replay. The 72nd minute substitution had no bearing on the final result whatever.

[Keyser Söze]

The rule and penalties are in here on p.115 (Article 6.43)

http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/2015%20Official%20Guide%20-%20Part%201.pdf

That's fairly clear cut in fairness and nothing Laois County Board can do about it.
Presumably the 4th Official gave the lists to the referee who would have had to include it in his report.

The grey area around what the 4th official told Laois could be publicised for sympathy but won't alter the result.
The choice of venue will be interesting. Parnell Park?

[High Fielder]

Are you sure you're not confusing normal substitutes, which are not replaceable after the limit has been reached, and black card substitutes, where to my mind there is no ruling? If there is, can you copy and paste that exact rule?

[Keyser Söze]

All part of the same rule;

2.4 (i) The maximum number of substitutions
permitted during the playing of Normal Time
shall be Six in Football and Five in Hurling.
(ii) A maximum of three Substitutions shall be
allowed during the playing of Extra Time.
(iii) Temporary Substitutions are also permitted
during the playing of both Normal Time and
Extra Time, as provided for in Rule 1.5(b) Rules
of Control - Injuries: Blood.
(iv) A Substitution is not allowed in the case of a
player ordered off.
Exceptions:
(a) As permitted by Rule 2.6(d), Rules of Specification.
        (b)   Subject to limitations specified in (i) above,
and to a maximum of three players on a
team, a substitution is allowed in the case
of a player ordered off in Football for a
Cynical Behaviour (i.e. Black Card) Infraction
provided that the player has not committed
a Cautionable (i.e. Yellow Card) Infraction
previously in the Game and in which
circumstances he may not be substituted.

[Giovanni]

Looking like they want a replay (surprise, surprise)

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0621/797102-orchard-men-to-get-second-bite-of-cherry/

[High Fielder]

All part of the same rule;

2.4 (i) The maximum number of substitutions
permitted during the playing of Normal Time
shall be Six in Football and Five in Hurling.
(ii) A maximum of three Substitutions shall be
allowed during the playing of Extra Time.
(iii) Temporary Substitutions are also permitted
during the playing of both Normal Time and
Extra Time, as provided for in Rule 1.5(b) Rules
of Control - Injuries: Blood.
(iv) A Substitution is not allowed in the case of a
player ordered off.
Exceptions:
(a) As permitted by Rule 2.6(d), Rules of Specification.
        (b)   Subject to limitations specified in (i) above,
and to a maximum of three players on a
team, a substitution is allowed in the case
of a player ordered off in Football for a
Cynical Behaviour (i.e. Black Card) Infraction
provided that the player has not committed
a Cautionable (i.e. Yellow Card) Infraction
previously in the Game and in which
circumstances he may not be substituted.

I think that's challengeable. I really do. Does it cover our situation? I don't think it does.

[OTF]

Ok
Replay it is,we'll just have to get on with it and beat them again.
The extra game will bring us on ton.....if we win 

[ILikeStrawberryJam]

How could Armagh be so defeatist as to turn down the offer of a replay ..
They couldnt say no we couldnt be bother playing a replay ..
2nd chance for them .. I'm sure they'll be up for it big time.
Although its a mess i see it as a positive for Laois ..
Another game under the new regime trying to implement the new system
Presume they will get the game up in Armagh and a big crowd will turn up

[south Laois]

Surely this will count as a re-fixture not a re-play as the first game is null and void. That would mean the game taking place in Portlaoise and John O Loughlin still suspended.