Down Club Hurling & Football

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befair

Early goal kept us in it for a while, but seem overmatched now. Missed penalty just before half-time didn't help

snoopdog

Quote from: befair on May 28, 2022, 03:00:41 PM
Early goal kept us in it for a while, but seem overmatched now. Missed penalty just before half-time didn't help
Missed the retake also. And about 8 wides.

befair

Not unexpected, I suppose. Commentator made a fair point that's a shame the Kilcoo players don't want to challenge themselves at a higher level.

5times5times

Wee James has walked. Not suprised.

wobbller

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Quote from: wobbller on May 01, 2022, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: whitegoodman on May 01, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
Difficult one to answer, not that popular among the players by all accounts as well.
There are similar thoughts about James also.Communication terrible and going on the two alcohol episodes there appears to no respect to the Management.Respect is usually earned but is non existent from both sides.
So here we are at the end of 6 months into this Management regime.One draw and 10 defeats.James spent the afternoon shouting at the players and getting into needless confrontation with Officials and a Cavan player.He also appeared to be late onto the sideline at the start of the match.Losing credibility with everyone after achieving legend status up to about 2010.

general_lee

I think James McCartan deserves credit for stepping up to the plate in the first place. He took on a team nobody wanted, and for good reason. There's clearly no pride in the Down jersey anymore.

wobbller

Quote from: general_lee on May 28, 2022, 06:39:31 PM
I think James McCartan deserves credit for stepping up to the plate in the first place. He took on a team nobody wanted, and for good reason. There's clearly no pride in the Down jersey anymore.
Great credit indeed for stepping up but now time to step away.

general_lee

Quote from: wobbller on May 28, 2022, 06:58:37 PM
Quote from: general_lee on May 28, 2022, 06:39:31 PM
I think James McCartan deserves credit for stepping up to the plate in the first place. He took on a team nobody wanted, and for good reason. There's clearly no pride in the Down jersey anymore.
Great credit indeed for stepping up but now time to step away.
If Down can find someone who players will play for then 100% he should, I just don't think there will be too many takers. Laverty maybe, perhaps if supporters and players accept the level they're at and that they need to rebuild. We had the same with McGeeney in Armagh yo-yoing between Div  2 and 3  with a lot of fans wanting him out, when the reality was he had limited playing resources at his disposal and it was unlikely that any successor would have done much much better.

Lotto

No one could ever question the passion of Mc Cartan and his love for Down. He dug us out of a very big hole when a mess was created by sheer incompetence beyond his control. While he thought he was doing the right thing himself, taking an unpopular No.2 in O'Rourke who the lads hated and another inexperienced coach in Mc Mahon who was well out of his depth, he was always rowing against the tide. The Dublin debacle actually brought the lads closer by all accounts but the whole thing has been a shitshow from the start. We're in a bad place but Tailteann Cup level is our standard. Slabbering in the papers won't help, we have too many prima donnas who will be posting pictures from Ginger Janes again tonight. I have no idea how we get out of this mess but we are in a very sorry state atm.

SamFever

 All very demoralising at present.If James has stepped down he has the thanks of everyone in Down but a serious selection panel should be appointed and be left to it but have an Appointment done by the end of July.This could be crazy but how about James as a member of the selection Committee.He knows what would be needed.

Johnnysboys

Quote from: SamFever on May 28, 2022, 08:17:56 PM
All very demoralising at present.If James has stepped down he has the thanks of everyone in Down but a serious selection panel should be appointed and be left to it but have an Appointment done by the end of July.This could be crazy but how about James as a member of the selection Committee.He knows what would be needed.

The end of July??? Why would it take 2 months ffs?? Just go get the person everyone wants into the hot seat right now. Stop wasting even more time appointing an appointment committee. We are beyond that - go knock Laverty's door and get him.

Hard2Listen2

#37916
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??

Lotto

Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
??
??
He hasn't the balls for it. There is a decent U.20 squad next year so he will stay in his comfort zone. O'Rourke will dominate Derry with Glen so why would he move to a group of lads who think they are better than they are.  Tailteann Cup is where we are and we have to accept that.

Hard2Listen2

Quote from: Lotto on May 28, 2022, 09:03:11 PM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
??
??
He hasn't the balls for it. There is a decent U.20 squad next year so he will stay in his comfort zone. O'Rourke will dominate Derry with Glen so why would he move to a group of lads who think they are better than they are.  Tailteann Cup is where we are and we have to accept that.

Very simple 💰


SHEEDY

Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??
Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names
nil satis nisi optimum