The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Jurgen walks - Stallion vindicated

[RedHand88]

Loris Karius.......

Gives more gifts than Santa

[markl121]

shocking stuff from watford.

[screenexile]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-paid-manchester-city-1m-spy-settlement-mxkns7mb6

Scousers stealing other people's shit but then what else is new... one of the great clubs

[under the bar]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-paid-manchester-city-1m-spy-settlement-mxkns7mb6

Scousers stealing other people's shit but then what else is new... one of the great clubs

Champions League Winners maybe but still football's Pariahs

[Dire Ear]

Big game v Chelsea, but would should win

[laoislad]

Six Times.

[gawa316]

Six Times.

Second half was hard to watch

[laoislad]

Six Times.

Second half was hard to watch

Yeah poor enough. Got the job done though.

[imtommygunn]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-paid-manchester-city-1m-spy-settlement-mxkns7mb6

Scousers stealing other people's shit but then what else is new... one of the great clubs

Champions League Winners maybe but still football's Pariahs

That's an awful big word for you.

[Ambrose]

Six Times.

Second half was hard to watch

Followed the last 15 minutes on twitter, couldn't watch it. All we needed was someone to calm things down, get a hold of the ball and take the sting out of the game. We got Lallana.
Players looked tired, it was very warm and humid in Naples on Tuesday night, hopefully they'll get a few days rest ahead of Saturday.

Six out of six and ten points clear of Totteringham and United, that'll do for now.

[TabClear]

Worrying performance in the last 20 minutes. Midfield getting a bit of stick at the minute and deservedly so for the Chelsea goal but I actually think the main problem was farther up the pitch, the ball was not sticking with the front 3, Salah in particular. Matip was outstanding at the back. Hard to be critical when its 6 from 6 and despite Chelsea's troubles at home so far its always a good result at Stamford Bridge. Plus they are a different team with Kante fit. What a player. If I could pick one player from the rest of the premier league to join Liverpool it would be a toss up between him and KDB.

Interesting stat below

For Jurgen Klopp, a 150th league game in charge of Liverpool, accruing 92 wins in that time – more in the same period than Kenny Dalglish's 87, Gerard Houllier and Rafael Benitez's 81 and the 79 of Bob Paisley. Bill Shankly managed 77.

Just hows how the game has changed in recent years, you cannot afford to draw games anymore.

[Armamike]

2 points for a win in Shank's and Paisley's time.  Draws weren't as costly then so their lower win count should be viewed in that context.  Klopp has done a remarkable job though.  The improvement in Liverpool during the last 18 months has been stark.

[TabClear]

2 points for a win in Shank's and Paisley's time.  Draws weren't as costly then so their lower win count should be viewed in that context.  Klopp has done a remarkable job though.  The improvement in Liverpool during the last 18 months has been stark.

Fair point, i forgot about that.

Just read that Mourinho has the best record with 105 wins in his first 150 which is impressive. However Guardiola sitting on 91 after only 120 games! 

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Looks like a messy court deal coming up between the club/New Balance and Nike. From The Athletic:

The battle to be Liverpool's kit supplier is heading for London's High Court as New Balance fight to retain the lucrative contract.

Rival sportswear giant Nike looked set to be announced as the club's new partner from the start of next season after agreeing a bumper deal with the European champions, understood to be worth around £70 million per season — a £25 million per season increase on the current arrangement and comfortably the biggest in the club's history.

However, The Athletic can exclusively reveal that New Balance are desperately trying to stop Liverpool from cutting their ties and linking up with Nike instead.

The current suppliers are adamant that they have triggered their right to match Nike's offer and should therefore be granted a contract extension with the Premier League leaders beyond May 2020. But Liverpool insist that is not the case and, as a result, New Balance have filed the dispute at the High Court.

A Liverpool spokesman said: "We can confirm that our kit supplier, New Balance, has commenced a legal dispute against the club. We will not be making any further comment during these legal proceedings."

Written into the current deal with New Balance was a 'matching clause' which meant that Liverpool were legally obliged to inform them of Nike's bumper bid and give them the chance to offer the same.

Having initially looked like they would be priced out of the race, The Athletic understands that New Balance then declared that they would stump up the cash — a sign of how determined the Boston-based company is to keep on board the biggest club in their sponsorship portfolio.

Liverpool responded by informing New Balance that their improved bid still didn't measure up to their rival because they can't offer the same kind of global distribution network that Nike possesses. The Anfield hierarchy favour going with Nike as they will provide them with a greater presence in key markets across the world.

Documents show that New Balance filed the case at the commercial court of the High Court on September 10. A statement from the company to The Athletic read: "New Balance is proud to be the official kit sponsor of Liverpool Football Club. Since 2011, when we entered into a record breaking sponsorship with the club, we have delivered two of the biggest selling home kits for Liverpool fans and we continue to match the ambition and achievements of the club as it grows from strength to strength.

"As a long standing and committed sponsor, we are keen to continue our strong partnership with Liverpool Football Club and renew our agreement in 2020. In line with our current contract, we have matched the offer made by Nike.

"As part of the contract renewal process, LFC has called into question elements of the agreement and as such we are asking the courts for clarity on this case. Both we and the club are keen to resolve any contractual challenges as quickly as possible and have agreed to an expedited process in the courts.

"New Balance is eager and confident to maintain its sponsorship of Liverpool Football Club and we look forward to continuing our record of success as LFC's playing kit provider."

Liverpool managing director Billy Hogan has led the pursuit of a new kit deal over the course of 2019 with the team's continued resurgence on the field both domestically and in Europe strengthening his hand in negotiations. An announcement had been expected by the end of September but it now appears certain to drag on.

Daniel Geey, football lawyer at Sheridans, told The Athletic: "These matching clauses are common, whether it's in apparel or boot deals with individual players or clubs. It's a way of ensuring that the brand has the opportunity to match any third party offer.

"Usually a company gets the chance to negotiate a renewal during an exclusivity period and then if that offer is rejected the club can go to market for a set period of time. Then if a new bidder makes a better offer, the club has to take that back to the incumbent and give them the chance to match it.

"It's not just about matching a certain figure financially. There are various commercial requirements and conditions that have to be met for it to qualify as a matching offer. One may be distribution and what, for example, Nike could offer in terms of their breadth of distribution channels globally.

"This is where the finer details of the deal become very important. For example, in sports shops around the country the visibility and the prominence of, for example, the Nike branding may be greater than the one given to New Balance because of the deals with particular sports retailers.

"Another important element is that commercial conditions may differ depending on whether a club has the autonomy to sell its merchandise in its own stores or around the world and the margins that are negotiated for different products."

Jurgen Klopp's side have worn New Balance shirts since 2015 with the club having previously worked with their affiliate company Warrior for the previous three seasons. The partnership has proved successful with last season's home kit the highest selling in the club's history.

As they wait for the legal dispute to be resolved, New Balance are pushing on with their preparations for next season. The Athletic understands that they have already designed and created all three kits for the 2020-21 campaign. However, whether they ever see the light of day remains to be seen.

Barcelona's £100 million per season deal with Nike is the biggest in football followed by Real Madrid's £98 million per season arrangement with Adidas.

In terms of the Premier League, Manchester United currently lead the way, pocketing around £75 million per season from Adidas. Next are Arsenal (Adidas, £60 million), Chelsea (Nike, £60 million) and Manchester City (Puma, £50 million).

[J70]

Hope they find a resolution. I like the New Balance kits overall, especially the home ones. But I guess it's the money that matters most.