Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 21, 2022, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

Russia are still f**ked medium term.

Unfortunately, millions of poor bstards across the world will likely starve due to Putin's madness.

How handy is to have a war to blame for this complete financial shit show? 

If the war stopped tomorrow would fuel drop back to 1.25 a litre, would home heating oil drop back to normal levels?

Would the price of food drop?

How quick would that happen?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2022, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 21, 2022, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

Russia are still f**ked medium term.

Unfortunately, millions of poor bstards across the world will likely starve due to Putin's madness.

How handy is to have a war to blame for this complete financial shit show? 

If the war stopped tomorrow would fuel drop back to 1.25 a litre, would home heating oil drop back to normal levels?

Would the price of food drop?

How quick would that happen?

the answer to that is, i would imagine, not quickly. Things go up very quick but they dont go the other way anywhere near as quick

Milltown Row2

Quote from: tonto1888 on June 22, 2022, 07:52:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2022, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 21, 2022, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

Russia are still f**ked medium term.

Unfortunately, millions of poor bstards across the world will likely starve due to Putin's madness.

How handy is to have a war to blame for this complete financial shit show? 

If the war stopped tomorrow would fuel drop back to 1.25 a litre, would home heating oil drop back to normal levels?

Would the price of food drop?

How quick would that happen?

the answer to that is, i would imagine, not quickly. Things go up very quick but they dont go the other way anywhere near as quick

But you feel that they will go back at some point and the war is to blame for it all?  Will the West ever do 'business' with Russia again or another way of saying it will the West ever do business with Putin again?

If he was 'removed' would that build confidence and allow that to happen?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2022, 08:40:59 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 22, 2022, 07:52:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2022, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 21, 2022, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

Russia are still f**ked medium term.

Unfortunately, millions of poor bstards across the world will likely starve due to Putin's madness.

How handy is to have a war to blame for this complete financial shit show? 

If the war stopped tomorrow would fuel drop back to 1.25 a litre, would home heating oil drop back to normal levels?

Would the price of food drop?

How quick would that happen?

the answer to that is, i would imagine, not quickly. Things go up very quick but they dont go the other way anywhere near as quick

But you feel that they will go back at some point and the war is to blame for it all?  Will the West ever do 'business' with Russia again or another way of saying it will the West ever do business with Putin again?

If he was 'removed' would that build confidence and allow that to happen?

If he goes then Happy meals will be back on the menu in Moscow.

burdizzo

#694
No, of course things won't go down as quickly. Even when fertiliser prices were going mad, it turned out the companies had increased profits of 14%, and I'd imagine it's the same across all commodities.

As for 'the west' and Putin... Well, maybe another way of looking at all this is that the invasion of Ukraine is a sign of the crumbling influence of The West in today's world. You know, Russia (not just Putin, by the way) reckoned that he'd be safe enough to go ahead and, largely, he's been right. Sure, it's a different mindset from the last century - completely at odds with our atomised, BLM/ gay pride flag-waving world - but he doesn't give a shit. And why should he? The West is faltering, and Russia and China might as well fill the power vacuum. The whole thing is full of so many contradictions, it's hard to know what to think! America and the EU, essentially, writing blank cheques for a pretty dodgy Ukrainian administration, that's led by a Jew and harbours bona-fide 'neo-fascists' which the western media lionises all the time! You know, if any of us in The West were to extol such 'blood and soil' policies as the Ukrainians are now (and fair play to them), then we'd be ostracised as 'far-right' lunatics. And as for our media... We all laugh at the Russian state media propaganda, but the lies from our own lot are more blatant and outlandish every day.

I think Putin will win this war, and I think it will accelerate the decline of influence of the EU and America. We've been on about how China is going to be the next 'big superpower'. Well, I think this could be the tipping point. Some reckon they're eyeing up Taiwan - possibly as early as next year. And w/ Western arms stockpiles somewhat depleted in Ukraine - sure, why not?


tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2022, 08:40:59 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 22, 2022, 07:52:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2022, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 21, 2022, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

Russia are still f**ked medium term.

Unfortunately, millions of poor bstards across the world will likely starve due to Putin's madness.

How handy is to have a war to blame for this complete financial shit show? 

If the war stopped tomorrow would fuel drop back to 1.25 a litre, would home heating oil drop back to normal levels?

Would the price of food drop?

How quick would that happen?

the answer to that is, i would imagine, not quickly. Things go up very quick but they dont go the other way anywhere near as quick

But you feel that they will go back at some point and the war is to blame for it all?  Will the West ever do 'business' with Russia again or another way of saying it will the West ever do business with Putin again?

If he was 'removed' would that build confidence and allow that to happen?

I have no idea. I was just making a point that prices go up quickly but the reverse doesnt happen

Rudi

https://gript.ie/actually-fine-gael-is-out-of-step-with-the-public-not-mattie-mcgrath/

Pure & utter nonsense from FG, fair play to rural independents for highlighting this. Country is turning into a leftie cesspit.

Rossfan

Ahhh the gript, about as right wing as they come.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Rudi

Typical shite as usual from leftie fan boy Rossfan, still have nothing to add to any discussion. Shows how much of an idiot you are, if you believe the gript holds far right views.

Rossfan

Usual foul language and abuse, par for the extreme right wing course.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Rudi

Shows your intolerance to views which are different to your own. No problem in dismissing & dishing others peoples views on this board for years. You can give it but cant take it. Poor little sensitive snowflake.

Gabriel_Hurl

a grown "man" calling someone a snowflake

burdizzo

How do you it's a man?!

But he's right (!); Gript certainly isn't "as right-wing as they come". Also, we have become a leftie cesspit.

Gabriel_Hurl


RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Rudi on June 24, 2022, 04:36:10 PM
https://gript.ie/actually-fine-gael-is-out-of-step-with-the-public-not-mattie-mcgrath/

Pure & utter nonsense from FG, fair play to rural independents for highlighting this. Country is turning into a leftie cesspit.

The correct answer is probably along the lines of

"We don't see our incoming numbers ever swelling to significant figures; therefore we do not want to discourage anyone thinking of coming here at this time.

Of course, we cannot foresee the future, so if that changes, then maybe this house will need to debate it. But for now, the bigger problem is Ukrainians being put off by a perceived cold welcome and staying somewhere that puts them at risk."
i usse an speelchekor