People you admire

[Lar Naparka]

I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

Jesus Christ I am only after seeing this beauty. You admire a sectarian bigot for momentarily setting aside her sectarianism to attend the funeral of a catholic girl murdered in a foreign country on her honeymoon. There was no "deep sectarian divide" to cross - what a bizarre thing to say. I think it shows the total lack of understanding you have for matters in the North.

Good man Itchy,  you're in flying form as always!
(And, as usual, you are missing my point.)
That's no surprise as it takes a pretty open-minded, non-judgemental individual; one who doesn't see everything in black or white terms, to understand what I mean.
I know I shouldn't bother my posterior even attempting a reply but maybe there are more tolerant nationalists who will appreciate what I am trying to say.

Not everybody who was traumatised by what they experienced in childhood is a Catholic and the young Arlene Kelly is no exception.  Protestant children know just as little about poolitics or religious discrimination as Catholic kids do.
As an 8 year old, her daddy barely survived an assassination attempt on his life. As she grew older, she found out that the man suspected of the attempt on her father's life is regarded as a hero by a large section of the nationalist community.
As a teenager, the Provos tried to assassinate the driver of the school bus she was on. Her best pal was killed and she was badly injured by the blast. To kill one unsuspecting adult, those who planted the bomb were prepared to put the lives of innocent children at risk.
After all that, how can anyone expect her not to be bitter?
What she did by going to the Harte funeral and also turning up at a Gaelic football game made her few friends on the nationalist side but made her countless enemies on her side of the fence.
I admire her for that and I  don't give two flying fiddlesticks if anybody wants to disagree with me.

[Itchy]

I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

Jesus Christ I am only after seeing this beauty. You admire a sectarian bigot for momentarily setting aside her sectarianism to attend the funeral of a catholic girl murdered in a foreign country on her honeymoon. There was no "deep sectarian divide" to cross - what a bizarre thing to say. I think it shows the total lack of understanding you have for matters in the North.

Good man Itchy,  you're in flying form as always!
(And, as usual, you are missing my point.)
That's no surprise as it takes a pretty open-minded, non-judgemental individual; one who doesn't see everything in black or white terms, to understand what I mean.
I know I shouldn't bother my posterior even attempting a reply but maybe there are more tolerant nationalists who will appreciate what I am trying to say.

Not everybody who was traumatised by what they experienced in childhood is a Catholic and the young Arlene Kelly is no exception.  Protestant children know just as little about poolitics or religious discrimination as Catholic kids do.
As an 8 year old, her daddy barely survived an assassination attempt on his life. As she grew older, she found out that the man suspected of the attempt on her father's life is regarded as a hero by a large section of the nationalist community.
As a teenager, the Provos tried to assassinate the driver of the school bus she was on. Her best pal was killed and she was badly injured by the blast. To kill one unsuspecting adult, those who planted the bomb were prepared to put the lives of innocent children at risk.
After all that, how can anyone expect her not to be bitter?
What she did by going to the Harte funeral and also turning up at a Gaelic football game made her few friends on the nationalist side but made her countless enemies on her side of the fence.
I admire her for that and I  don't give two flying fiddlesticks if anybody wants to disagree with me.

Maybe I am missing your point but if you tried making it in a few concise sentences instead of rambling post it might be easier. Can I paraphrase, you admire Arlene as she had a difficult childhood being brought up in the troubles to such an extent she hated catholics and should be admired for setting that aside to attend a funeral of an innocent Catholic lady.

I think that's total bollox, as per the fine post written above.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

maybe Ronnies no politicians rule wasnt so daft....

[Lar Naparka]

I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

Jesus Christ I am only after seeing this beauty. You admire a sectarian bigot for momentarily setting aside her sectarianism to attend the funeral of a catholic girl murdered in a foreign country on her honeymoon. There was no "deep sectarian divide" to cross - what a bizarre thing to say. I think it shows the total lack of understanding you have for matters in the North.

Good man Itchy,  you're in flying form as always!
(And, as usual, you are missing my point.)
That's no surprise as it takes a pretty open-minded, non-judgemental individual; one who doesn't see everything in black or white terms, to understand what I mean.
I know I shouldn't bother my posterior even attempting a reply but maybe there are more tolerant nationalists who will appreciate what I am trying to say.

Not everybody who was traumatised by what they experienced in childhood is a Catholic and the young Arlene Kelly is no exception.  Protestant children know just as little about poolitics or religious discrimination as Catholic kids do.
As an 8 year old, her daddy barely survived an assassination attempt on his life. As she grew older, she found out that the man suspected of the attempt on her father's life is regarded as a hero by a large section of the nationalist community.
As a teenager, the Provos tried to assassinate the driver of the school bus she was on. Her best pal was killed and she was badly injured by the blast. To kill one unsuspecting adult, those who planted the bomb were prepared to put the lives of innocent children at risk.
After all that, how can anyone expect her not to be bitter?
What she did by going to the Harte funeral and also turning up at a Gaelic football game made her few friends on the nationalist side but made her countless enemies on her side of the fence.
I admire her for that and I  don't give two flying fiddlesticks if anybody wants to disagree with me.

Maybe I am missing your point but if you tried making it in a few concise sentences instead of rambling post it might be easier. Can I paraphrase, you admire Arlene as she had a difficult childhood being brought up in the troubles to such an extent she hated catholics and should be admired for setting that aside to attend a funeral of an innocent Catholic lady.

I think that's total bollox, as per the fine post written above.

If I wrote what I have to say on the back of a postage stamp or I filled out 50 ages, you wouldn't see a word of it!
But I am just hoping that there are some broad-minded nationalists who realise that there is an Edwin Poots for every Itchy and there will be no peace on this island until their pernicious influence is somehow curbed.
I disagree with maybe 95%, or even more, of what she says or does but I accept that she is not 100% intolerant or bigoted.
As for future comments from me on this subject, please refer to the last sentence of my last post.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

[Itchy]

I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

Jesus Christ I am only after seeing this beauty. You admire a sectarian bigot for momentarily setting aside her sectarianism to attend the funeral of a catholic girl murdered in a foreign country on her honeymoon. There was no "deep sectarian divide" to cross - what a bizarre thing to say. I think it shows the total lack of understanding you have for matters in the North.

Good man Itchy,  you're in flying form as always!
(And, as usual, you are missing my point.)
That's no surprise as it takes a pretty open-minded, non-judgemental individual; one who doesn't see everything in black or white terms, to understand what I mean.
I know I shouldn't bother my posterior even attempting a reply but maybe there are more tolerant nationalists who will appreciate what I am trying to say.

Not everybody who was traumatised by what they experienced in childhood is a Catholic and the young Arlene Kelly is no exception.  Protestant children know just as little about poolitics or religious discrimination as Catholic kids do.
As an 8 year old, her daddy barely survived an assassination attempt on his life. As she grew older, she found out that the man suspected of the attempt on her father's life is regarded as a hero by a large section of the nationalist community.
As a teenager, the Provos tried to assassinate the driver of the school bus she was on. Her best pal was killed and she was badly injured by the blast. To kill one unsuspecting adult, those who planted the bomb were prepared to put the lives of innocent children at risk.
After all that, how can anyone expect her not to be bitter?
What she did by going to the Harte funeral and also turning up at a Gaelic football game made her few friends on the nationalist side but made her countless enemies on her side of the fence.
I admire her for that and I  don't give two flying fiddlesticks if anybody wants to disagree with me.

Maybe I am missing your point but if you tried making it in a few concise sentences instead of rambling post it might be easier. Can I paraphrase, you admire Arlene as she had a difficult childhood being brought up in the troubles to such an extent she hated catholics and should be admired for setting that aside to attend a funeral of an innocent Catholic lady.

I think that's total bollox, as per the fine post written above.

If I wrote what I have to say on the back of a postage stamp or I filled out 50 ages, you wouldn't see a word of it!
But I am just hoping that there are some broad-minded nationalists who realise that there is an Edwin Poots for every Itchy and there will be no peace on this island until their pernicious influence is somehow curbed.
I disagree with maybe 95%, or even more, of what she says or does but I accept that she is not 100% intolerant or bigoted.
As for future comments from me on this subject, please refer to the last sentence of my last post.

If you think I'm the other side of the Poots coin your even more stupid than I thought.

For the record I would ban religion in school, all schools would be mixed religion, I'd be open to a change of flag and anthem and indeed a devolved ulster parliament. That's my vision of what a 32 county Ireland could look like, a hell of a lot more generous than what Arlene and her ilk gave to nationalists in the north. I imagine quite a few nationalists would not agree with me on that either. So again more poor judgement from you.

[Itchy]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

I really admire the man

[Lar Naparka]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

I really admire the man

??
But not Arlene Foster? What's the difference between one Unionist bigot or another?
So you'd ban all religion in schools? You'd run into trouble with Poots then since he believes all in says in the Bible.
I never knew he attended any sort of a GAA match.
Well, far play to him for doing so. He can't be, same as Foster, a totally bitter anti-Taig then.

[armaghniac]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

I really admire the man

??
But not Arlene Foster? What's the difference between one Unionist bigot or another?
So you'd ban all religion in schools? You'd run into trouble with Poots then since he believes all in says in the Bible.
I never knew he attended any sort of a GAA match.
Well, far play to him for doing so. He can't be, same as Foster, a totally bitter anti-Taig then.

Poots as minister attended that game. I don't admire him, but he is somewhat willing to do his job.
Foster as First Minister and Fermanagh MLA should have attended on the same basis, perhaps Stalford who attended with her deserves more credit

[Farrandeelin]

I admire Angelo for his ability to keep an argument going for about 50 pages or so.

[Itchy]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

I really admire the man

??
But not Arlene Foster? What's the difference between one Unionist bigot or another?
So you'd ban all religion in schools? You'd run into trouble with Poots then since he believes all in says in the Bible.
I never knew he attended any sort of a GAA match.
Well, far play to him for doing so. He can't be, same as Foster, a totally bitter anti-Taig then.

Seems sarcasm is way over your head every bit as much as northern issues. Even Poot's mother wouldn't admire him.

[From the Bunker]

I admire Angelo for his ability to keep an argument going for about 50 pages or so.

I admire anyone who keeps up with Angelo's arguments!

[Lar Naparka]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

I really admire the man

??
But not Arlene Foster? What's the difference between one Unionist bigot or another?
So you'd ban all religion in schools? You'd run into trouble with Poots then since he believes all in says in the Bible.
I never knew he attended any sort of a GAA match.
Well, far play to him for doing so. He can't be, same as Foster, a totally bitter anti-Taig then.

Poots as minister attended that game. I don't admire him, but he is somewhat willing to do his job.
Foster as First Minister and Fermanagh MLA should have attended on the same basis, perhaps Stalford who attended with her deserves more credit

I don't follow you ...
Do you mean that she wasn't a state minister at the time, so it was no big deal. I never thought of it that way.
In any event, she was taking an infinitely greater political risk by attending the Harte funeral. That was a double whammy, religious  and cultural, for the extremists on her side of the community divide.
Incidentally, the man Itchy admires wouldn't dream of attending a Catholic ceremony of any sort. Creationists regard Catholics as idolators and all pre-doomed to everlasting damnation in the fires of hell   

[Lar Naparka]

Poots attended a McKenna football match in 2008, becoming the first DUP minister to attend a GAA fixture, long before Arlene Foster did.

Do I win a prize?

I really admire the man

??
But not Arlene Foster? What's the difference between one Unionist bigot or another?
So you'd ban all religion in schools? You'd run into trouble with Poots then since he believes all in says in the Bible.
I never knew he attended any sort of a GAA match.
Well, far play to him for doing so. He can't be, same as Foster, a totally bitter anti-Taig then.

Seems sarcasm is way over your head every bit as much as northern issues. Even Poot's mother wouldn't admire him.

Yeah? If that's your best attempt at sarcasm it's as undercooked as your political maturity.

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Attending a football match should be part of their job and not something to be "admired". The GAA is an apolitical organisation and by allowing Unionists to think they are on some sort of outreach program normalises the thought that the GAA is anti protestant or even anti British. It is not. It is a sporting organisation like Golf Ireland or IRFU.