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tyrone08

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10095 on: January 14, 2022, 10:18:36 AM »
Yeah Patel would be a worry. A terrible terrible person.

She would be terrible but she wouldn't last long either.

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« Reply #10096 on: January 14, 2022, 12:36:37 PM »
Yeah Patel would be a worry. A terrible terrible person.

There is no f**king way Priti Stupid would get the job.

She'd be demolished by the likes of Gove in any kind of head to head.
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« Reply #10097 on: January 14, 2022, 01:33:16 PM »
It is a farce that nothing will come of.

I'd have agreed with you until last nights further revelations about the parties in Downing Street the night before Prince Philips funeral where the Queen sat alone in Westminster Abbey.

As much as Boris may not have attended this one where his childs play swing was broken he's ultimately responsible for the culture of his office/home when they thought it was OK to do such a thing.

Cummings is killing him by a thousand cuts it seems.

Sue Grey has yet another party to investigate so expect a delay on that report.

That video of him dancing with the woman holding the light sabre  :o

I hope you're right and presumably Cummings just keeps sinking the boot in. It will only be funny if it ends well. I still have my doubts.

Had to go looking for it and by god he's even a lecherous dancer with his bump and grind going on.. Wonder when this was?

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« Reply #10098 on: January 14, 2022, 01:41:10 PM »
He was Mayor of London so it's a few years ago...........

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« Reply #10099 on: January 14, 2022, 02:03:31 PM »
I know politicians tell lies but has there ever been anyone told as many lies as this boy? Basically it just seems a given that if he says something it's a lie or if he says something is going to happen it won't.

The Economist are arguing that Boris has never hidden his utter cynicism, lack of principles and complete dedication to transactional politics. People just voted for him anyway.

https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/01/15/what-did-you-expect-from-boris-johnson

Trump lies with impunity as well, also with the purpose of bolstering his own, personal position and interests above all else.

Trump scares the f**k out of me. Boris doesn't. But then I'm personally far removed from him.

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« Reply #10100 on: January 14, 2022, 02:17:53 PM »
I know politicians tell lies but has there ever been anyone told as many lies as this boy? Basically it just seems a given that if he says something it's a lie or if he says something is going to happen it won't.

The Economist are arguing that Boris has never hidden his utter cynicism, lack of principles and complete dedication to transactional politics. People just voted for him anyway.

https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/01/15/what-did-you-expect-from-boris-johnson

Trump lies with impunity as well, also with the purpose of bolstering his own, personal position and interests above all else.

Trump scares the f**k out of me. Boris doesn't. But then I'm personally far removed from him.

There's many similarities and the lying is the obvious one.
Both self serving and obvious with it.
Both grifters and lining their own pockets with it
Both tacked towards a nationalist, populist agenda as it cut through with a lot of the electorate ably assisted by years of complicit media feeding this hysteria. MAGA, Get Brexit Done. Slogans cut from the same anti immigrant cloth IMO.
Both fúcked up the Covid response as both initially belittled it due to ingrained exceptionalism and both have far too high of death rates per capita even with their "best in class" Health services.
Both have connections to Russian money men.
Both initially laughed off as jokes but still made it and both had money men behind them who're actually pulling the strings.

The US still haven't got over their Trump hangover and the UK will suffer for as long as well as for as much as the party scandal is headlines what the Torys are doing to law, security, immigration and the much beloved Health service being carved out from the inside for US private medical firms assisted by dishy Rishi will be a stain for years to come..








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« Reply #10101 on: January 14, 2022, 02:21:14 PM »
I know politicians tell lies but has there ever been anyone told as many lies as this boy? Basically it just seems a given that if he says something it's a lie or if he says something is going to happen it won't.

The Economist are arguing that Boris has never hidden his utter cynicism, lack of principles and complete dedication to transactional politics. People just voted for him anyway.

https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/01/15/what-did-you-expect-from-boris-johnson

Trump lies with impunity as well, also with the purpose of bolstering his own, personal position and interests above all else.

Trump scares the f**k out of me. Boris doesn't. But then I'm personally far removed from him.

I think there's a lot more to him than you might think tbh. I don't like the way the met aren't investigating this at all. It kind of feels like he, or someone, has a lot of power and people in power can do what they want. I mean to be honest in the UK I think the politics have got out of hand. You used to laugh at Italy and Berlusconi for example and the corruption was that rife and blatant. It's the same in the UK now.

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« Reply #10102 on: January 14, 2022, 03:43:36 PM »
I firmly believe Boris' plan was

- "Get Brexit done"
- Spend a couple of years partying and glad handing around the world signing trade deals
- When Brexit began to actually bite, hand the baton over to someone else and retire to some column writing and after-dinner speaking

He was never prepared for actually doing any serious 'work'

Covid fcuked it up for him completely in that he actually had a proper issue to deal with

The only surprise in any of this is that people are surprised

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« Reply #10103 on: January 14, 2022, 04:21:15 PM »
There was a suggestion in the paper that Theresa May was enjoying 2022. Somehow, I cannot see a big party in No. 10 in breach of Covid regulations while she was there, if only because she is in a vulnerable category.
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« Reply #10104 on: January 14, 2022, 04:32:34 PM »

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« Reply #10105 on: January 14, 2022, 04:51:59 PM »
I firmly believe Boris' plan was

- "Get Brexit done"
- Spend a couple of years partying and glad handing around the world signing trade deals
- When Brexit began to actually bite, hand the baton over to someone else and retire to some column writing and after-dinner speaking

He was never prepared for actually doing any serious 'work'

Covid fcuked it up for him completely in that he actually had a proper issue to deal with

The only surprise in any of this is that people are surprised

I know we have had spats on this in the past but BJ is only the driver on the bus, I blame Cameron who brought the idea to light!
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« Reply #10106 on: January 14, 2022, 06:10:53 PM »
I firmly believe Boris' plan was

- "Get Brexit done"
- Spend a couple of years partying and glad handing around the world signing trade deals
- When Brexit began to actually bite, hand the baton over to someone else and retire to some column writing and after-dinner speaking

He was never prepared for actually doing any serious 'work'

Covid fcuked it up for him completely in that he actually had a proper issue to deal with

The only surprise in any of this is that people are surprised

I know we have had spats on this in the past but BJ is only the driver on the bus, I blame Cameron who brought the idea to light!
The idea has been about for decades, and grew during the late 00s early 10s. Cameron was unfortunate to be PM when it boiled over.


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« Reply #10108 on: January 14, 2022, 07:52:37 PM »
I firmly believe Boris' plan was

- "Get Brexit done"
- Spend a couple of years partying and glad handing around the world signing trade deals
- When Brexit began to actually bite, hand the baton over to someone else and retire to some column writing and after-dinner speaking

He was never prepared for actually doing any serious 'work'

Covid fcuked it up for him completely in that he actually had a proper issue to deal with

The only surprise in any of this is that people are surprised

I know we have had spats on this in the past but BJ is only the driver on the bus, I blame Cameron who brought the idea to light!
The idea has been about for decades, and grew during the late 00s early 10s. Cameron was unfortunate to be PM when it boiled over.
They've never been happy Europeans, there was a Membership Referendum in the 1970s.  The data of the 1975 referendum is interesting. Scotland has become very pro-EU in comparison to the 70s data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_1975_United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum?wprov=sfla1

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« Reply #10109 on: January 14, 2022, 10:39:53 PM »
I think the funny thing about the Brits in Europe is that they’ve always seen this Franco-German axis as leading the EU, and they either agree or disagree with whatever proposals come forth. It seems to me they never tried to drive the agenda. Our (Irish) interests often coincide with UK interests and the Scandinavians could also have been in the same corner. The Benelux guys seem to always line up with Germany/France, but most of the rest were moveable. 

There’s plenty not right with the EU, but changing it from the inside would have been a far better idea than forcing themselves out of it altogether