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armaghniac

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If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10142 on: May 12, 2022, 04:20:44 PM »

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10143 on: May 12, 2022, 04:34:19 PM »
I think this whole thing will work out in the North's favour. I can't see any way the EU put up a border between North and South.

I think the EU will just make it very difficult for the UK to get anything into mainland Europe and the UK will either have to suffer or cave to some degree.

Either way I think business in NI will still be able to have the best of both worlds and may find the friction between it and GB lessened.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10145 on: May 13, 2022, 11:21:48 AM »
Attended a very interesting debate on the implications of a Brexit, in Newry last Thursday morning.Bertie was one of the speakers.Few eye openers, not least of which is the absolute dread of the free state business community and political parties of a Brexit.Independance? Celebrating 1916 centenary? My Arse.
When Tony started this thread and mentioned this first here, It was pretty much news to me and I thought it was a nonsense and never going to happen.  How things have developed...

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10146 on: May 13, 2022, 04:36:17 PM »
Much noise about article 16 and diversion of trade and that if there is diversion of trade in NI due to the protocol, then article 16 can be invoked.
Basically if there are negative side effects of the protocol on the NI economy that's interpreted as  diversion of trade.
But no matter how many times  Unionists  deceptively  misinterpret that narrow survey of NI economy and magnify the importance of  cost increases elsewhere, it cannot change the facts that NI economy  has not suffered due to the protocol, in fact the opposite is more true.
The diversion of trade mantra is a red herring.

 Not having a clue what diversion of trade meant, I sought help found this web site,
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/glossary/trade-diversion/

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10147 on: May 13, 2022, 08:06:29 PM »
The Tories never let facts get in the way of anything though.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10148 on: May 13, 2022, 09:31:21 PM »
I think this whole thing will work out in the North's favour. I can't see any way the EU put up a border between North and South.

I think the EU will just make it very difficult for the UK to get anything into mainland Europe and the UK will either have to suffer or cave to some degree.

Either way I think business in NI will still be able to have the best of both worl100%ds and may find the friction between it and GB lessened.
100%. The vast majority of the brits trade to EU goes through Dover. That's where they have been hit and will continually to be hit. Delays there is not sustainable for them.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10149 on: May 14, 2022, 07:29:23 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1525162346825515009On Article 16, Pascal Lamy former WTO head and EU trade commissioner tells BBCPM: “If UK acts unilaterally saying there will be no border… it is the UK saying we negate Brexit. The very decision to Brexit entails the existence of a border. You cannot have your cake and eat it.”
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10150 on: May 14, 2022, 07:39:48 AM »
ewis Goodall

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Lamy: “If this is about is about how many toothbrushes [should be subject to checks] this is solvable. If it’s about there shouldn’t be a border between the EU and Ireland then this isn’t negotiable because this is what the British people decided when they decided Brexit.”

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10151 on: May 14, 2022, 01:34:28 PM »
ewis Goodall

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Lamy: “If this is about is about how many toothbrushes [should be subject to checks] this is solvable. If it’s about there shouldn’t be a border between the EU and Ireland then this isn’t negotiable because this is what the British people decided when they decided Brexit.”

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Is this guy an elected politician from somewhere that has sway in brexit?

If no, his ramblings are a bit like yours, pointless
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10152 on: May 14, 2022, 02:08:58 PM »
ewis Goodall

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Lamy: “If this is about is about how many toothbrushes [should be subject to checks] this is solvable. If it’s about there shouldn’t be a border between the EU and Ireland then this isn’t negotiable because this is what the British people decided when they decided Brexit.”

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Is this guy an elected politician from somewhere that has sway in brexit?

If no, his ramblings are a bit like yours, pointless
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10153 on: May 14, 2022, 08:57:50 PM »
ewis Goodall

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Lamy: “If this is about is about how many toothbrushes [should be subject to checks] this is solvable. If it’s about there shouldn’t be a border between the EU and Ireland then this isn’t negotiable because this is what the British people decided when they decided Brexit.”

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Is this guy an elected politician from somewhere that has sway in brexit?

If no, his ramblings are a bit like yours, pointless
Former trade commissioner

So no? Ok let’s move on then and listen to someone who actually has real input than someone who is former something
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10154 on: May 14, 2022, 09:04:46 PM »
ewis Goodall

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Lamy: “If this is about is about how many toothbrushes [should be subject to checks] this is solvable. If it’s about there shouldn’t be a border between the EU and Ireland then this isn’t negotiable because this is what the British people decided when they decided Brexit.”

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Is this guy an elected politician from somewhere that has sway in brexit?

If no, his ramblings are a bit like yours, pointless
Former trade commissioner

So no? Ok let’s move on then and listen to someone who actually has real input than someone who is former something


Lamy is a former Director-General of the World Trade Organization a position he held for 8 years. He’s the person who described Britain’s brexit trade deal as moving from being a premier league team to a lower league 2 side. He has a good understanding of trade deals and knew what Britain had signed up to was crap.