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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10065 on: January 13, 2022, 02:43:18 AM »
The 1922 Committee needs 54 signatures to trigger a leadership election.

No, to trigger a vote of confidence, which BJ could well win. Needs 180+ against him to be usurped.

Tories really in a bind here. Smart play would be to jettison him and give the new leader time to bed in and become known to voters. New leader unlikely though to be as popular at the election booth as BJ was, particularly in red wall seats (and especially if it's a 'furriner '/ 'Pakistani' like Sunak). Leave Johnson in situ and the opposition become stronger and more vocal and in control of the moral high ground. This is what I think will happen, just about. Cabinet will hope that Sue Gray's report takes so long to compile that the whole issue will cool and public anger will fade away. In the meantime, cue another outbreak of hostilities with France re: fishing and the EU re: NIP.  God knows what Joe Biden makes of it.

The thoroughly ridiculous Rees-Mogg calling Scottish Tory MP Douglas Ross a 'political lightweight' on Newsnight won't do much for trying to preserve the Union north of the border. Even knocked a start out of the normally unflappable Kirsty Wark!

Rees-Mogg is certainly ridiculous. But he's 100% right about Ross. Have you ever seen that Hun bastard ref a Celtic game. A man even more odious than Rees-Mogg.

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« Reply #10066 on: January 13, 2022, 08:31:40 AM »
The 1922 Committee needs 54 signatures to trigger a leadership election.

No, to trigger a vote of confidence, which BJ could well win. Needs 180+ against him to be usurped.

Tories really in a bind here. Smart play would be to jettison him and give the new leader time to bed in and become known to voters. New leader unlikely though to be as popular at the election booth as BJ was, particularly in red wall seats (and especially if it's a 'furriner '/ 'Pakistani' like Sunak). Leave Johnson in situ and the opposition become stronger and more vocal and in control of the moral high ground. This is what I think will happen, just about. Cabinet will hope that Sue Gray's report takes so long to compile that the whole issue will cool and public anger will fade away. In the meantime, cue another outbreak of hostilities with France re: fishing and the EU re: NIP.  God knows what Joe Biden makes of it.

The thoroughly ridiculous Rees-Mogg calling Scottish Tory MP Douglas Ross a 'political lightweight' on Newsnight won't do much for trying to preserve the Union north of the border. Even knocked a start out of the normally unflappable Kirsty Wark!

The arrogance of Rees-Mogg is something to behold and irrespective of whether he's right about Douglas Ross or not you just don't say things like that on national TV. I'm sure the Scottish Tory's are feeling loved by their "betters" in London now..

As for Boris, he's apologising for not realising it was a party in his back garden and doing something about it. That is all. He's even trying to suggest it legally wasn't outside the rules at the time. He's a charlatan of the highest order.

There's no doubt going to be another drip feed of another party or indiscretion on its way

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« Reply #10067 on: January 13, 2022, 08:38:30 AM »
It's like an apology from a toddler then you see the glint in their eye and they do the same thing again. It's not an apology at all.

I don't think there are many more odious than Rees-Mogg. Johnson probably is but that is about it.

Yes it's like someone said too. There surely can't be any worse but we say that about every secretary of state here and every Brexit negotiator and they all get worse when you think it's impossible... If anyone can the tories can.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10068 on: January 13, 2022, 10:13:44 AM »

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« Reply #10069 on: January 13, 2022, 10:39:08 AM »
Whoever is releasing all of this info is playing a blinder so far.

Releasing everything at the right time to cause maximum damage to Boris.

No doubt more to come - this is the reason why they are so afraid to say anything - they havent a f**king clue what will come out next.

If the past releases are anything to go by it will go quiet for a few days/week and then the next bombshell will be dropped

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« Reply #10070 on: January 13, 2022, 11:42:26 AM »
Meanwhile back in the utopia that is Brexit, lorry drivers face 20 km tailbacks at Dover as full customs controls take effect from the beginning of this year. This gets drowned out with the current Tory pantomime. 

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« Reply #10071 on: January 13, 2022, 12:28:32 PM »
Whoever is releasing all of this info is playing a blinder so far.

Releasing everything at the right time to cause maximum damage to Boris.

No doubt more to come - this is the reason why they are so afraid to say anything - they havent a f**king clue what will come out next.

If the past releases are anything to go by it will go quiet for a few days/week and then the next bombshell will be dropped

It has to be Cummings. I didn't think that was a boy that it would be in the interests of any of them to screw over. He seems quite bitter too which tbh is great lol.

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« Reply #10072 on: January 13, 2022, 12:42:48 PM »
It's 100% Cummings!!

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« Reply #10073 on: January 13, 2022, 12:48:44 PM »
Whoever is releasing all of this info is playing a blinder so far.

Releasing everything at the right time to cause maximum damage to Boris.

No doubt more to come - this is the reason why they are so afraid to say anything - they havent a f**king clue what will come out next.

If the past releases are anything to go by it will go quiet for a few days/week and then the next bombshell will be dropped

Allegedly Boris couldn't/wouldn't give assurances to some back benchers that this was the end of the party scandals at No.10.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't more.

It's also interesting that these leaks are being given to ITV now as its also alleged that the BBC knew about this and failed to do anything with the information.

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« Reply #10074 on: January 13, 2022, 12:55:39 PM »
It's 100% Cummings!!

It's great though. He's another horrible one but at least he had his medicine so he can be supported till be sinks a few people and then we can go back to hating him again  ;D

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10075 on: January 13, 2022, 12:57:15 PM »

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« Reply #10076 on: January 13, 2022, 01:04:56 PM »
Also to come out of this... I thought Michael Fabricant was a spoof tory MP with a spectacular blonde wig. Turns out he's a real politician  ;D

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« Reply #10077 on: January 13, 2022, 01:28:44 PM »
Also to come out of this... I thought Michael Fabricant was a spoof tory MP with a spectacular blonde wig. Turns out he's a real politician  ;D

And he claims the 'wig' is his real hair!! He was on First dates show once, so him and this ordinary girl (though she was fecking nuts) sat down for dinner and she just came out with it about his wig, he denied it lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHsP0Sxvlps     about 2.2
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #10078 on: January 13, 2022, 09:43:32 PM »
Tony Diver tweet, Daily Telegraph. Ironic if they deliver the death blow

"Number 10 held two boozy parties the night before the Queen mourned Prince Philip alone.

Staff drank and at points danced until the early hours of the night of April 16.

Hours later, the Queen went to a socially-distanced funeral for Philip. https://t.co/sWrFcOrplE"

Oh dear Bojo, this could be the one - Prince Philip's funeral the day after the party.

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« Reply #10079 on: January 13, 2022, 09:53:24 PM »
Boris will survive it, surrounded by his  minions. The Cabinet are only there because of his fronting Brexit, they owe him absolutely everything.  The local elections in May are a different matter.