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General discussion / Re: The North East 200
« on: December 11, 2017, 06:52:51 PM »
Last time I checked catholic teaching regards homosexuality as sinful,and the Church opposes gay marriage and any amendment to current abortion legislation as it applies in the North

General discussion / The North East 200
« on: December 11, 2017, 05:56:16 PM »
What do you make of the 200 Northern signatories to the letter to Leo Varadkar asking him to stand up for the rights of Irish Citizens in the North? I am totally confused I have to say.

I thought Sinn Fein were more than capable of lobbying on behalf of Northern nationalists,uniquely with members elected to Stormont,The Dail and Westminster.

Secondly there is a portion in the letter referring to the denial of "human rights" here which are "enjoyed" in all other parts of these islands.This is an obvious reference to allowing gay marriage and relaxing strict abortion legislation,in the North.Does this mean the two prominent priests that have signed this letter,Fr Joe Mc Veigh and Fr Gary Donegal support the introduction of gay marriage and a relaxation of abortion laws here???

General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: December 11, 2017, 04:24:08 PM »
Has anyone told Posh Paws about Keith Chegwin's death yet? I suppose Delia Smith will take care of the catering at the funeral?

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 11, 2017, 09:11:55 AM »
It's because of letters like this that I came to the realisation that Irish nationalist aspirations are senseless when they are not shared by Dublin Govts.Leo's grovelling to Unionists will lose him no votes because his electorate do not want a United Ireland

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 11, 2017, 08:48:35 AM »
I see Leo has written a comfort letter to Unionists in Belfast Telegraph today assuring them he has no ulterior motives (ie no United Ireland) in taking a hard stance over Brexit.

Can you imagine Unionists or the British Govt grovelling to Nationalists in a similar fashion?

General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 08:42:18 PM »
I think Brendan is facing his most challenging period now.The Champions League Campaign cannot be in any way regarded as successful,thank God we were fortunate to meet an Anderlecht side out of sorts in Belgium.Over the last few league games the invincible domestic record has been seriously threatened.Celtic a couple of months ago would not have surrendered a two goal lead at Hibs.

Brendan's stock will not be raised by winning trophies in Scotland,it will only be by doing things in Europe and that has been an abject failure,and I think he knows this.Another heavy defeat in the Europa League,where they are unseeded,could well see things unravel.It would be hard for the support to have much enthusiasm for the remainder of the domestic season,even if another treble is secured.

Celtic were well beaten by Anderlecht at home,even though the score was only one nil,and while there is an excuse for PSG and Bayern Munich doing this,there is none for being outclassed by Anderlecht at home.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:25:13 PM »
Amazed by the number of Southern accents in Newry shops just now boosting the British Exchequer! Patriotic to the core! Then there are still people who think they would willingly subsidise taking the North on by ending partition!😂😂😂

General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:27:51 PM »
Ambrose causes an opposition goal agsinst Celtic! How many times?😂😂

General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:08:11 PM »
I'll bet Max will still be spinning in his grave for the next ten years.

Obviously in border areas there's going to be considerable symmetry.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 09, 2017, 09:47:23 PM »
I don't accept there was institutional discrimination.The likes of Maurice Hayes reached the highest echelons of the Civil Service.I think in the heavy industries in Belfast Catholics were intimidated by Protestant workers,and Management may have been negligent in not tackling this.

In any event you have to look at what motivated Protestant/unionists.Northern Catholics never at any stage showed allegiance to the Northern state,and this led to Protestant/Unionist mistrust which manifested itself in exclusion.I am not saying Catholics were right or wrong not to show allegiance to the Northern statelet,but undoubtedly this did contribute to Unionist mistrust,from which exclusion and some discrimination ensued. Paisley often referred to the lack of catholic support for and loyalty to the new Northern statelet and contrasted this with Protestant support for or at least willingness to co operate in the new independent state in the South from those Protestants who lived there.

I guess this thread proves my theory that the differences between North and UK are huge as are the differences between North and South.Therefore should our politics in the North not change to emphasise our uniqueness instead of the current emphasis on allegiances to two other states with whom we have enormous differences?

And the differences between North and South are plentiful too

Northern Nationalists not allowed vote in Irish  Presidential election

Difference Measures, KM V Miles

Different Currencies

Northern nationalists forbidden from doing Irish Lotto on line

Dublin allegedly nationalist  parties will not enter coalition with SF unlike Unionist Northern parties

13 evening rate parking fees in Dublin City Centre v 4 in Belfast

No ice hockey in South

North doesn't deal with South via a Foreign Affairs Dept

Same sex marriage illegal in North

No Irish language tv channel in North

No road tolls (after already paying Road tax) in North.

No TV toy shows in North.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 08, 2017, 02:53:31 PM »
What about the Catholic Professional classes? They seemed to do alright in the leafy suburbs.I knew of a Senior Catholic Servant back in the day who seemed to do nothing else only try and work out the religious affiliation of each new staff member and boasted he could do this in an hour.There was always Catholic businesses in Portadown town centre.They couldn't have survived without the support of all sections.

Did the people of the Shankhill Road benefit from having a perpetual Unionist government? I think not.Not so long ago there were houses in the loyalist village area of Belfast still with outside toilets.

Grossly exaggerated and not a barrier at all to those who were determined and willing to work to make the most of opportunities.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:55:55 AM »
Demographics mean nothing.Unionists are getting ready to celebrate their 100th birthday.Expect to see a pledge to reach 200.Then again there is the issue that very few in the South want a United Ireland.None of us will ever see it.

Again I ask the question,what makes anyone think a United Ireland is viable when the South went bankrupt despite its love affair with the EU? What is the difference in swapping sovereign govt by Britain for that of the EU? Or as I suspect is everyone just politically motivated by outcomes that will annoy the prods?

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