Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[seafoid]

The Cork County Board has Frank Murphy but it doesn't have cash

Some history :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1irc_U%C3%AD_Chaoimh
"Finance
The Cork County Board were faced with a bill of £650,000 to cover the first stage of the development, which at the time was the biggest undertaken by any sports organisation in Ireland.[citation needed] In addition to grants from the GAA's Central and Munster Councils, finance for the project was raised by the sale of the Board's 45 acre property at Model Farm Road,[12] and a sizeable part of 49 acres on the north side of the city.[citation needed] The Board's offices on Cook Street were also sold, while further funds were raised through Coiste Gael and commercial and private subscriptions. Additional funds were raised through the sale of 88 advertising spaces within the stadium and the sale of 3,000 five-year stand tickets at £30 each.[citation needed]

Official opening

Páirc Uí Chaoimh prior to redevelopment pictured here at halftime between Cork vs Kerry 2012
Páirc Uí Chaoimh was officially opened on 6 June 1976.[15] by Con Murphy, then president of the GAA. On the opening day the Cork hurlers played Kilkenny while the Cork footballers took on Kerry.[9]

Concerts
The 1970s oil shocks increased interest rates and the Cork County Board was unable to repay the loan on stadium's building cost.[16] Local promoter Oliver Barry instigated the Siamsa Cois Laoi (Irish for 'Fun by the [River] Lee'), a weekend festival of country, folk, and Irish traditional music held annually in the stadium from 1977 to 1987.[17][18] Opposition from GAA traditionalists was overcome by the need for the organisation to clear mounting debts.[18][16] Each Siamsa programme featured international stars supported by Irish acts. Headliners included Glen Campbell (1979[19] and 1983[20]), Don McLean (1979[21] and 1984[22]), Joan Baez (1980),[23] Kate & Anna McGarrigle,[17] Leo Sayer (1984),[24] Loudon Wainwright III (1985),[25] Kris Kristofferson (1985),[26] John Denver (1986),[27] Status Quo,[17] and The Pogues (1987).[17] Support included acts managed by Barry like the Wolfe Tones, Stockton's Wing, and Bagatelle,[18] and others including the Dubliners and Christy Moore.[17]



The modern iteration. Same link

Demolition and construction works

East side of redeveloped Páirc Uí Chaoimh
In April 2014, Cork County Board and Cork City Council announced that they had been given the green light to proceed with the redevelopment project of the stadium.[57][58]

In May 2014, the Government sanctioned a €30 million grant to help fund the regeneration of the stadium.[59]
By December 2018, stadium commercial director Peter McKenna declared that the final cost of rebuilding Páirc Uí Chaoimh could be as high as €110m, which is €24m higher than the €86m quoted when works were completed in 2017"


So a lot of it was loans

[AustinPowers]

Would Ulster GAA accept if it became a municipal stadium (for all sports/events) or is that a non runner? Profits dished out on a percentage basis?

That was the proposal  for the   long Kesh site.  That option went when  each sporting organisation got  separate monies for their respective stadia

[Dreadnought]

Would Ulster GAA accept if it became a municipal stadium (for all sports/events) or is that a non runner? Profits dished out on a percentage basis?

That was the best option. And as it was for all 3, it'd have long been built as DUP/TUV wouldn't object etc. However it was turned down by others, Windsor and Ravenhill got their money and got their upgrades. That's what sticks in the craw here. they got theirs, but want to stop this further. Municipal stadium is no longer an option now. Casement is now the only option on the table

[Walter Cronc]

Would Ulster GAA accept if it became a municipal stadium (for all sports/events) or is that a non runner? Profits dished out on a percentage basis?

That was the best option. And as it was for all 3, it'd have long been built as DUP/TUV wouldn't object etc. However it was turned down by others, Windsor and Ravenhill got their money and got their upgrades. That's what sticks in the craw here. they got theirs, but want to stop this further. Municipal stadium is no longer an option now. Casement is now the only option on the table

Aw I know that and in fairness to Ulster Rugby I think they were open to a municipal stadium. Those IFA cretins and their vermin support were the issue.

I mean regarding this build. If they didn't have full ownership as such. To get it over the line. Maybe similar to what's happening in Cork. Would that be palatable? All profits say from GAA but other events given to government etc.

[Eire90]

i would like to see all 4 all ireland quarter finals played in 4 provinces would Connaught need a new stadium

[seafoid]

i would like to see all 4 all ireland quarter finals played in 4 provinces would Connaught need a new stadium

This wouldn't work if there were no teams from Connnacht in the quarter final to be played in Connacht.

[AustinPowers]

i would like to see all 4 all ireland quarter finals played in 4 provinces would Connaught need a new stadium

This wouldn't work if there were no teams from Connnacht in the quarter final to be played in Connacht.

True.

Arm v Mon would  work for an Ulster venue last year.  But do  you take Ker v Tyr (or Cork v Der) to Galway/Castlebar? Logistically,  Dublin for both is more sensible  with  the road/train network.

Plus,  you either have ALL QF's at Croker or none. 

Plus, no county should get a provincial advantage either. So, it's not as simple  as it seems

[Sandy Hill]

i would like to see all 4 all ireland quarter finals played in 4 provinces would Connaught need a new stadium

I'd imagine the players involved would much prefer to play in
Croke Park!

[Rossfan]

Dont worry, HQ will be keeping the Football Quarter Finals.
No Ground rental, keeping the Corporates and Premiums happy, sale of drink, food etc.

[trailer]

Would Ulster GAA accept if it became a municipal stadium (for all sports/events) or is that a non runner? Profits dished out on a percentage basis?

Frustrating to read these type of comments

Huge problem this. Public have very little understanding of knowledge of the situation.

[Wildweasel74]

Here, they had the chance 15yrs ago to go with a massive stadium for all at the maze. Belfast folk couldnt be bothered driving 8 mile out the road where as Country folk been driving everywhere for years.DUP too worried about a wee shrine in their head and not the sense to See the big picture.

[Armagh18]

i would like to see all 4 all ireland quarter finals played in 4 provinces would Connaught need a new stadium

This wouldn't work if there were no teams from Connnacht in the quarter final to be played in Connacht.

True.

Arm v Mon would  work for an Ulster venue last year.  But do  you take Ker v Tyr (or Cork v Der) to Galway/Castlebar? Logistically,  Dublin for both is more sensible  with  the road/train network.

Plus,  you either have ALL QF's at Croker or none. 

Plus, no county should get a provincial advantage either. So, it's not as simple  as it seems

Is provincial advantage that big a deal as long as distance is fairly even? If theres an all ulster qf and the way theres 5 teams in Ulster who'll quite possibly be in qf's draw dependent this year then its should be looked at when Casement is built.

[AustinPowers]

i would like to see all 4 all ireland quarter finals played in 4 provinces would Connaught need a new stadium

This wouldn't work if there were no teams from Connnacht in the quarter final to be played in Connacht.

True.

Arm v Mon would  work for an Ulster venue last year.  But do  you take Ker v Tyr (or Cork v Der) to Galway/Castlebar? Logistically,  Dublin for both is more sensible  with  the road/train network.

Plus,  you either have ALL QF's at Croker or none. 

Plus, no county should get a provincial advantage either. So, it's not as simple  as it seems

Is provincial advantage that big a deal as long as distance is fairly even? If theres an all ulster qf and the way theres 5 teams in Ulster who'll quite possibly be in qf's draw dependent this year then its should be looked at when Casement is built.

Well , if you're going by fairness then  there shouldn't be provincial familiarity

Do you think Armagh and Monaghan would agree to play a QF in  Ulster  while the other 3 QFs are in Croke Park?  Surely they'd want  game time in Croke Park ,  even if it meant  further cost to fans?

[RadioGAAGAA]

Alright then non lunatic. What's your grand plan? Corrigan Park forever?

Already said it many, many times on the thread. But for your benefit.

- Replace the old main stand with a new one, covered seating. All the facilities they could ever want could be placed underneath this as the new structure could be far more significantly hollowed out relative to old, and the back of it could be extended over the road to add further floor space. No big difference to light on houses to the West of Casement as the existing stand already blocks it.
- Stick a roof over the (renewed) terrace on the far side of the pitch. The back end of this structure can hold the badly needed amenities. It'd be relatively low profile though.
- Renew the terraces at both ends of the pitch. Don't cover them. If there is sufficient demand - as determined by polls, one of the ends could be uncovered seats.

Capacity of 30-40k for the one or two times a year it may be needed - which would be during the summer. Comfortably sufficient covered capacity for during the autumn/winter/spring. 3 or 4 significantly different price tiers.

Basically the stadium that the GAA needs at a cost that will benefit all in the long-run.

Instead we're getting an expensive to build, expensive to maintain milestone, which will come with astronomical ticket prices.


But hey - the Ulster Council might be able to hold a few concerts. That's what this is about right? Otherwise it makes no sense to build what they are trying to build.

[Dougal Maguire]

Alright then non lunatic. What's your grand plan? Corrigan Park forever?

Already said it many, many times on the thread. But for your benefit.

- Replace the old main stand with a new one, covered seating. All the facilities they could ever want could be placed underneath this as the new structure could be far more significantly hollowed out relative to old, and the back of it could be extended over the road to add further floor space. No big difference to light on houses to the West of Casement as the existing stand already blocks it.
- Stick a roof over the (renewed) terrace on the far side of the pitch. The back end of this structure can hold the badly needed amenities. It'd be relatively low profile though.
- Renew the terraces at both ends of the pitch. Don't cover them. If there is sufficient demand - as determined by polls, one of the ends could be uncovered seats.

Capacity of 30-40k for the one or two times a year it may be needed - which would be during the summer. Comfortably sufficient covered capacity for during the autumn/winter/spring. 3 or 4 significantly different price tiers.

Basically the stadium that the GAA needs at a cost that will benefit all in the long-run.

Instead we're getting an expensive to build, expensive to maintain milestone, which will come with astronomical ticket prices.


But hey - the Ulster Council might be able to hold a few concerts. That's what this is about right? Otherwise it makes no sense to build what they are trying to build.

Great idea. Windsor all covered all seated, Ravenhill something similar. Casement as suggested above. Croppy lie down