Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018

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Captain Obvious

Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
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For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don't think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I'd say they're probably number 2 at the moment. We'll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.

seafoid

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Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galway's first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed
2011, Mayo win Connacht and get to semi final beating reigning champions Cork.
2012, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Dublin.
2013, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Donegal.
2014, Mayo win Connacht and lose semi final replay against Kerry after extra time.

2016, Galway win Connacht and lose heavily in quarter final to Tipperary.
2017, Galway lose heavily to Ross in Connacht final and go out with a whimper to Kerry in quarter final.
2018, Galway win Connacht, beat Kerry in Croke park but end the season with heavy defeats to Monaghan and Dublin.
2019?
I took the first semi as year 1. Could have included 2010 v Longford as well I suppose
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GaillimhIarthair

Well done to the Dubs, much stronger and clinical that us today and deserved victors.   Considering we are just up from D2 it's been a progressive year overall - a few lads out of their depth today but hopefully a few ready replacements will be available next year.  We go again in 2019 with much more optimism than we had entering 2018!

Well done to the minors, great win today.


sid waddell

Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don't think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I'd say they're probably number 2 at the moment. We'll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

trileacman

Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don't think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I'd say they're probably number 2 at the moment. We'll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry surrendered very meekly against Galway in Croke Park so I don't know what your basing this on.
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Gmac

Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I'm sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

sid waddell

Quote from: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don't think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I'd say they're probably number 2 at the moment. We'll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry surrendered very meekly against Galway in Croke Park so I don't know what your basing this on.
Tradition has a lot to do with it.

Kerry were definitely a bit green this year but Kerry teams always, always, always believe they can beat Dublin.

Do Galway teams?




Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:10:01 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don't think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I'd say they're probably number 2 at the moment. We'll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry surrendered very meekly against Galway in Croke Park so I don't know what your basing this on.
Tradition has a lot to do with it.

Kerry were definitely a bit green this year but Kerry teams always, always, always believe they can beat Dublin.

Do Galway teams?

It's been a few years since they actually have though
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

trileacman

Another shit show analysis from TSG today again. Imagine how lucky Dublin are. They're unbeaten in about 20 championship matches because the opposition forgot to "go for it".

Really hope Spillane pops into the Kerry changing the next day they face Dublin and reminds the lads to win they've only really to "let loose" and "give it a lash".
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sid waddell

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 09:11:25 PM


It's been a few years since they actually have though
Maybe, but they've always run them very close, and they've always believed they would win.

Also, Kerry beat Dublin in a league final 16 months ago.

Belief is your starting point if you want to beat Dublin.

That's why, almost inevitably, when Dublin are beaten, it will be Kerry who do it.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry without a doubt they were a shambles in defence. Mayo as pointed out already had so many issues going on that they wouldn't be competitive v Dublin this year either. Dublin's lack of competition has got even weaker this year with Kerry and Mayo in transition.

sambostar

Dubs are good.

But Kilkenny overcarrying is a joke. He does it nearly every time he's on the ball. His point just before HT he gets ball takes 4 steps jinks past his man takes another 4 steps and taps over the bar. Not even a hint of a bounce or solo!?

sid waddell

Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don't think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I'd say they're probably number 2 at the moment. We'll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry without a doubt they were a shambles in defence. Mayo as pointed out already had so many issues going on that they wouldn't be competitive v Dublin this year either. Dublin's lack of competition has got even weaker this year with Kerry and Mayo in transition.
Kerry were also a shambles in defence in 2013, 2015 and 2016. Yet Dublin found it very difficult to put them away all three times.

Mayo are not yet "in transition" (a great GAA cliche). The 2018 Mayo panel was basically the same as the 2017 one, with only Alan Dillon retiring in the interim. Barry Moran may well be the only retirement before next year. Dillon and Moran had become very much peripheral players in recent years.


RedHand88

Quote from: Gmac on August 11, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I'm sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.

larryin89

The power pace fitness strength & conditioning of Dublin is surreal . Mayo could near enough match them a few times over the last few years , Galway were nowhere near that level today. Maybe it will come I dunno but I'm not so sure it's just a matter of training for all the above ,is it not about the men too. These Dublin guys are exceptional athletes and tough as nails .

Also I'm actually not as convinced Mayo won't be back challenging as soon as next year as I was .That Mayo squad are a very determined bunch who still believe they have it in them for a lash in 2019 . Time will tell but banjaxed might prove to be a term a tad premature. (I've been saying we're cooked since 2014 btw , just get a feeling from what ya hear in the aftermath of newbridge )
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