Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Ronnie

Brexit's hardly been mentioned all week. You think the public's bored stiff?  Has anybody considered how it compromises the constitutional law of Northern Ireland? Like GB we aren't fortunate to have a written constitution, not that that matters much.  EU law and the Belfast Agreement have become woven into our law over the last 30-40 yrs.  We mightn't have had much of a legislative assembly but we certainly had a functioning executive and a rigorous judiciary.  Plenty of talk of 'prerogative power'.  Wonder what our friends in the U.S. would make of our checks and balances?  Is Trump's democracy lesser or greater than ours?

heganboy

#3781
Well, as Napoleon said, glory is fleeting and obscurity is forever.

The world has turned, the global economy recovers, the seeds of growth are evident everywhere.

Well not quite everywhere, while the US economy is looking at a 2.7% growth and the EU is looking at 2.2%, the UK is shaping up for a not so mighty 1.5% versus a very hefty 3% inflation rate.

With the UK not legally able to negotiate trade deals on their own until they exit the EU the British prime minister spoke to an empty room at Davos, while Macron's session had folks lining up for an hour to get in.

When do you draw the line between the will of the people and the good of the people?

The UK is not yet facing the harsh dividing line of the US, but it must be clear to those who care to look, that the EU exit may well put the final nail in the Empires coffin. In doing so they are consigning their youth to the economic conditions suffered by the Irish for centuries. Will be interesting to see whether the English attitudes start to change when they start losing their best and brightest to the growing economies of the world. In what diminished state will they implore the EU to rejoin?

While there is a temptation to spitefully wish ill on the English, the ramifications for Ireland of their nearest trading partner's economic road to ruin will be significant. The short sighted will clamour to leave also, without seeing the implications in the long term of getting on a sinking ship. Preparations should be made for decreased UK trade and a significant investment made in direct trading routes with continental ports. The status of the North will remain in flux for 20 years until a generation passes and the economic implications of reunification are plain to all.

Welcome to the brave New world...

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

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Quote from: heganboy on January 26, 2018, 02:21:06 AM
Well, as Napoleon said, glory is fleeting and obscurity is forever.

The world has turned, the global economy recovers, the seeds of growth are evident everywhere.

Well not quite everywhere, while the US economy is looking at a 2.7% growth and the EU is looking at 2.2%, the UK is shaping up for a not so mighty 1.5% versus a very hefty 3% inflation rate.

With the UK not legally able to negotiate trade deals on their own until they exit the EU the British prime minister spoke to an empty room at Davos, while Macron's session had folks lining up for an hour to get in.

When do you draw the line between the will of the people and the good of the people?

The UK is not yet facing the harsh dividing line of the US, but it must be clear to those who care to look, that the EU exit may well put the final nail in the Empires coffin. In doing so they are consigning their youth to the economic conditions suffered by the Irish for centuries. Will be interesting to see whether the English attitudes start to change when they start losing their best and brightest to the growing economies of the world. In what diminished state will they implore the EU to rejoin?

While there is a temptation to spitefully wish ill on the English, the ramifications for Ireland of their nearest trading partner's economic road to ruin will be significant. The short sighted will clamour to leave also, without seeing the implications in the long term of getting on a sinking ship. Preparations should be made for decreased UK trade and a significant investment made in direct trading routes with continental ports. The status of the North will remain in flux for 20 years until a generation passes and the economic implications of reunification are plain to all.

Welcome to the brave New world...

DragHi can't raise interest rates. This is more important than an expected growth rate . We are not in business as usual.

Re the US the thing now is to have growth that does not benefit ordinary people. It happens when a minority owns a majority of assets.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

heganboy

Now the two main political parties in the UK are trying to get their act together. This last week has seen the Labour party pull together to decide whether they are going to grab the bull by the horns and go full anti Brexit. On the other hand may is facing a vote of no confidence if she doesn't clarify her position. Both sides of her party starting to push her around...

Is the penny about to drop...
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

Quote from: heganboy on January 29, 2018, 02:14:25 AM
Now the two main political parties in the UK are trying to get their act together. This last week has seen the Labour party pull together to decide whether they are going to grab the bull by the horns and go full anti Brexit. On the other hand may is facing a vote of no confidence if she doesn't clarify her position. Both sides of her party starting to push her around...

Is the penny about to drop...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/28/brexit-passions-tory-theresa-may
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

armaghniac

The future is bright shіte in the sunny uplands of Brexit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42867668
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

screenexile

Quote from: armaghniac on January 30, 2018, 10:44:53 AM
The future is bright shіte in the sunny uplands of Brexit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42867668

More experts??!! Yeah jog on mate we'll be grand!

Can't wait for my blue passport.

AQMP

Quote from: screenexile on January 30, 2018, 10:55:32 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 30, 2018, 10:44:53 AM
The future is bright shіte in the sunny uplands of Brexit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42867668

More experts??!! Yeah jog on mate we'll be grand!

Can't wait for my blue passport.

Some incredible stuff from Brexit ministers today, saying these forecasts are wrong because every Treasury forecast is wrong...

The Treasury saying Brexit will be a complete f**k up whereas the Brexiteers are saying that wrong, it'll just be a normal f**k up.

Franko

This is the part where MR2 steps in to tell us all we have to stop talking about it cos a bottle of Lambrini is still a fiver in Winemark  ::)

AQMP

Now May is saying that the impact forecasts leaked this week are preliminary analyses and besides, ministers haven't signed off on them yet.  As a commentator has said "I thought you based policy on the evidence, not based the evidence on your policy".

Brexiteers really can't see beyond the dogma.  They're like party apparatchiks in the old Soviet Union.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Franko on January 31, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
This is the part where MR2 steps in to tell us all we have to stop talking about it cos a bottle of Lambrini is still a fiver in Winemark  ::)

Wouldnt drink that stuff, this is the bit were I step in and say, I didnt vote for brexit, Ive no control over it and neither do you or seafoid, its happened and thats that! moaning and complaining and worrying over it wont make it go away

Nobody in Government actually thought this was a good idea, thats why Cameron threw it out there, not thinking there was enough stupid cnuts who'd actually believe it would work out better..

The cost of living is still raising and hasnt really went down since the banks fcuked up and that was way before brexit, but hey you've managed to live through that balls up.. so dry your eyes roll up your sleeves and get on with it..

Oh and Tesco is doing 25% off when you buy 6 or more bottles  ::)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Rossfan

And ye'll be able to get blue passports as well (for those who want them of course)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on February 01, 2018, 10:55:17 AM
And ye'll be able to get blue passports as well (for those who want them of course)

https://youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc

Expat Rossies can paint the inside pages primrose
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Franko

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2018, 10:26:54 AM
Quote from: Franko on January 31, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
This is the part where MR2 steps in to tell us all we have to stop talking about it cos a bottle of Lambrini is still a fiver in Winemark  ::)

Wouldnt drink that stuff, this is the bit were I step in and say, I didnt vote for brexit, Ive no control over it and neither do you or seafoid, its happened and thats that! moaning and complaining and worrying over it wont make it go away

Nobody in Government actually thought this was a good idea, thats why Cameron threw it out there, not thinking there was enough stupid cnuts who'd actually believe it would work out better..

The cost of living is still raising and hasnt really went down since the banks fcuked up and that was way before brexit, but hey you've managed to live through that balls up.. so dry your eyes roll up your sleeves and get on with it..

Oh and Tesco is doing 25% off when you buy 6 or more bottles  ::)

Ah right.

Well now comes the part where everyone ignores you and talks about it anyway.

So maybe you should just get over it, because hey, it's happened and is going to continue to happen and all your whinging and moaning about people discussing the topic hasn't changed that one iota.

Sound familiar? Cheers.

PS... the bit in bold... who are you trying to kid...  :D

Milltown Row2

It's just a thought! Beats going on about it. Soft or hard Brexit! This expert says this and that one says that Zzzzzzzzzz

I've lost interest, so is there a timeline when it actually happens and have they sorted out the Irish problem?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea