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cavan and Roscommon contrive to a mutually beneficial draw.#
laois hammer Fermanagh by 15 points, the nordies having thrown in the towel before the start.
Kildare scramble a win against Westmeath.
Armagh outclass the limited Clare opponents.

the two diddy teams Fermanagh and clare get relegated.
in 2021 division 2 will be a bloodbath and horrid division with cork, down meath and one other in the stew.

It is indeed a complete farce regarding the schedule for the remainder of the senior football championship.
We were in lockdown at the same time as OY and KE, yet they finished their championships in Football this weekend.
Of course, Laois county board instead of opting for a different format, continued with the convoluted system and now in early October, we find ourselves with two rounds remaining.
If memory serves, when  Arles Kilcruise won the championship in Laois, did they not play the following day in the Leinster Club?.

Given the rising Covid numbers, there has to be a possibility of a second national lockdown, and such an occurrence  may kill all gaa action for the rest of the year.
I feel sorry for the 4 clubs, they should play  the semis next weekend, Friday night and Saturday if needs be, and then have the final on Saturday week.

With a likely short lived effort in the Leinster Championship for the county footballers, if you were a current county panellist from one of the four clubs, the temptation must be to drop off the county panel and focus on the club, if the November date for the semi finals is an immovable object(Covid permitting).



Here is a simple question.....if you were told that the virus is spreading too dangerously and a nationwide lockdown is imminent, by the end of this month......if you were from one of the 4 clubs.....would you be happy to play the semi finals and final inside the next 14 days, or opt to wait until next March or April to complete the championship?.

if that is the truth Clonadmad, and that is what I am also hearing, then this one fellow should have had the cop on to self isolate. If you are in a potentially hazardous environment, be it home or work, then you have no business getting involved in any multi group setting.

for instance if someone from one of the senior club football panels, has just returned from a holiday in Spain/France/Portugal, then he has no business joining his club squad this weekend.

my understanding from an active member of national executive is that the leagues will be voided. furthermore inter county challenge games will be actively discouraged.  the road map will be to get club championships going in mid july and get them finished by end of august and then hope that some sort of crowds(500 to 2000) are allowed for a knockout championship in September and October.  If there is spare dates later in the year it will be for under 20s intercounty and and not leagues.

given that corporate gaa is now all about the cash flow, the idea of intercounty games behind closed doors is not likely.

as I see it, with a recommencement in june or even july and trying to keep intercounty and club life alive in 2020.

1--the leagues will be voided.

2- the football championship will revert to the old style knock out...run the provincial series as drawn, then the winners into all Ireland semis....no backdoor..straight knock out...probably no London or New York in 2020.

3-- the hurling my need a ne knockout draw for munster and leinster....and then either let the 2 winners contest an all Ireland final...or allow all Ireland semis with the munster winner v leinster final loser etc.

4--you can finish the all irealand under 20s football,only 3 games left....the hurling equivalent cancelled.

5- most club games at senior level will not commence until late July or August and this will force most counties to revert to straight knock out championships.

6- forget about the club provincial and all Ireland series for 2020.

given that we are without 3 or 4 of our best players from recent years and the new manager has been forced to try younger lads, you have to be happy about 5 points from 5 games. Admittedly we were poxxed to get a draw in Roscommon and very lucky to nudge a win in Ennis.
With a relatively novice side you tend to get inconsistency from game to game, and Laois have kept to that script.
We may need a point to survive the drop. Our fate is in our own hands. Lady luck could also visit us, because it is quite feasible that Fermanagh could already be relegated by the time we travel to Enniskillen.

Five points there is no point debating with most of the posters here...they are all globalists of the Labour London brand. Their poster boy in the upcoming election is Amadan O Riordain, naturally the last person I want to see win a seat.

On the Green Party....they do have genuine environmental issues....alas most of the global issues stem from shoddy practices in the likes of China and Asian countries where they have the sweat shops and pollute freely to produce goods for Western consumers.
However if you scratch under the surface of the Greens you find too many anomalies.
The Greens have pushed successfully with their bed fellows, An Taisce, to  get the peat powered stations closed in the midlands.  These stations were a lifeline to rural midlands communities providing solid jobs. The 12-15% of power these stations supplied to the national grid is lost....and what is it being replaced by? power from France, and that power is nuclear produced.  So the Greens want Peat stations closed and they will take the replacement from elsewhere and like real NIMBY's as long as the nuclear is not Irish, they will accept it.

The second big flaw in the Green case is attached to population and demographics. Obviously if you have a world population booming to record levels, especially rising to unprecedented levels in third world countries, then the extra bodies need more resources to be produced to fuel them and there is then extra demands on the environment. Now much of the population growth indirectly can be blamed on the advance in science, because medical advancement now translates to child/infant mortality rates reduced significantly and hence populations figures mushrooming.  Many of these poorer countries cannot sustain the level of population growth....in a cold way, one could reason the populations need to be capped......what is the Greens answer to this taxing issue?...not a dickie  bird about the record demographics, instead we have the Greens in the EU advancing their Globalist theory, that wealthy European countries should help out these poorer African/Asian nations and take in the excess, and with birth rates within European countries of the natives very low, the big game in town with the Greens is the great replacement.

to save you the drama, and you can take this to paddypower and earn from it.

ff a minimum of 50
fg a maximum of 42....will be savaged in rural seats.
independents will surprise again, 25+

sf about 18/19
labour may return with 7...lose a couple and gain elsewhere
aontu 1...peadar retains.
greens a max of 10.

big name casualties....eoghan murphy(nap...one of the two fgs in DBS will lose and kate o Connell could be more transfer friendly), Regina Doherty,  and in my own heartland, Charlie Tanagan is in trouble as FG might only take 1 of the 5 and the territorial make up of Laois/Offaly does not favour him.

on the gaa front, the new chairman of Louth, Peter Fitz could prove a surprise packet and return again as an independent and confound the pundits who are dismissing him.


and in case Seafoid is asking, the above prediction is neutral because no party in Ireland represent my politics, the governing PIS party in Poland is my currency. My vote will therefore be going to a GAA man and Offaly Indo John Leahy, a man with the balls to question the new plantation of Ireland.

the only people who want to establish the "it was all not black and white" are the likes of yourself, a self confessed west brit. there are few british/irish left in the south and if you are so attached to your british heritage why don't your sling your hook and move back to the mainland?. the people of german heritage who found themselves in a newly designed Poland post WW2 soon accepted the reality and today few of german descent would describe themselves as German/Polish, they are now happy Poles and proud of it.

this whole episode is fantastic as it revives Irish history and makes it a hot topic, and unknowingly FG with this own goal, have further lit a fire for a real nationalist(irish blood) party of right wing leaning to emerge sooner rather than later, as is happening throughout the rest of Europe.

this reason why this event has been scheduled is because FG has most support from legacy RIC/ Brit leaning families and being in power, this was a means of doffing the cap to these families. by trying to normalise and celebrate RIC membership, and therefore removing the shame, FG may suit a tiny segment of the community, whilst raising the ire of the majority.....letting sleeping dogs lie, comes to mind.

I called correctly the result of the British General Election(sorry Seafoid!,), with this debacle, you can be 100% certain FF will win most seats in the 2020 Ge, and FG now sitting on 48/49, will fall below 40....take this prediction and earn from it.

the RIC were regarded as British Quislings.

the members of the RIC can be viewed through rose tinted lenses as mere civic police, the truth is from the mid 19th century to 1922, the Irishmen who joined the force, were deemed as traitors to the local community because they choose to better themselves by taking the coin from an occupying force rather than resisting like most of the natives. They were then on the wrong side of history when independence was achieved(with no help from them) and when the RIC was disbanded, for years after former RIC men were detested and for their families there was an element of shame attached to the RIC assocaiation.

now we have the west brit leaning element within FG trying to erase that "family shame" with this lamentable commemoration lark. another nail in the coffin of the outgoing fg administration, certain to rise the blood of even mild nationalists come election time, but par for the course now, as fgare   globo/multiculturalist cheerleaders, and the "forgive all" fits with that narrative.

With a future vote on the six counties re-uniting likely to happen inside 10/20 years, a key subset of voters in that referendum would be the comfortable castle catholics in the north.  In their hearts they want a united Ireland, but I wonder if just like the RIC, will they choose to vote with their pockets especially if they are earning their corn working for the British government in some capacity or other.

In essence, within war zones, as in the fight for Irish independence, they will be casualties and nasty conflict as part of the territory. One of the rawest aspects of war  is when some of what are regarded as "your own"  fight against you for the other side. The RIC, well the catholic members of it, were Irish natives happy to take the side of the Brits against the locals. Anyone sympathising with the RIC should be ashamed to call themselves Irish.

A fantastic result for democracy and Brexit will be complete and the start of the collapse of the EU commences.

A great day for English Nationalism and Scottish Nationalism.

reading this board and other media feed, it appears the "Irish" Nationalists up north are not happy.....if a United Ireland is to materialise it will come as a cost and there will be victims along the way.....trouble is I think the "Nationists" in the north are Me Feiners as opposed to Sinn Feiners...in that they only want a smooth transition to a UI and anything the involves pain, count them out.

The UK ballot box has put the champagne socialists, the multi culturalists, the open border campaigners and the anti-nation staters out on their arses.

the significance of the title does have an impact.

clubs deemed to be senior pay a bigger annual premium to the county board, as there is a tiered payment/levy structure for junior/intermediate/senior clubs.

boris won that debate easily....the electorate that count in the key constituencies heard a clear message from boris and more utopian bluster from jerry.

everytime dear old jerry is on the plinth, I simply think Venezuela and looks what socialism achieved in that country.

what shocks me even more is the posters on this forum who are in denial and think a miracle will happen next Thursday....afraid not, brexit stage one will be done and dusted by January.

Dear Seafoid,

I would make an educated guess, you voted against Brexit and lost. You were for Clinton and hated the idea of Trump winning. Now you are going to get the treble up, as you cannot see the Tories are going to swot away Labour, you are grasping at straws thinking a miracle will occur in the next fortnight.
Also Finucane will not beat Dodds, too much riding on it for the latter....can you call one election correctly?.

Brace yourself for Brexit, and as I have written previously on this thread, it accelerates the prospect of a border poll and then the possibility of a United Ireland.


One other item that Left/labour fans fail to answer, if the Labour party were discriminating against its Islamic members in the manner in which it is systematically doing so against the Jewish brethren, I am certain all the leftist/socialist/Marxists would be up in arms.....why all the denial, ignore the elephant in the room stuff?. the policy is an underhand one of banish the jews, welcome with open arms the Muslims, now seen as the safest voting block for the Labour.   
What is puzzling is that Labour advocates all this snowflake social policy of pro choice abortion, same sex marriage, whatever you want gender wise and liberal education.....yet their Islamic friends are totally against these policies, look at what is happening in education in Birmingham for example, when the policy/religion clash occurs.

when they build up sufficient numbers, the muslims will abandon Labour and set up their own fundamentalist party in Britain and then Labour will be as relevant as the Labour party in the south of Ireland.

listening to john curtice on the radio last night and he was concentrating on many less published regional polls, he is predicting a significant tory majority.

my read is that the Libs have crashed under a moan-pot leader and they will be lucky to reach 20 seats.

for now, I see the tories reaching 370, a 40-50 majority, the only thing that could stop them is if labour pull the stunt of trying to rob some marginal via postal voting.

much better a big tory majority and getting brexit done and dusted than a tiny majority or another tory minority propped up by DUP.