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#10321
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 13, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
Stew, why all the ranting and raging and venom against anything that isn't a Republican?

And where is the link I asked you for?

I am not a republican, never have been, I would prefer them over that other shower, and the main reason is because too many on here side with the democrats and since they have been shite for 7 years I want to see change.

Who the f**k are you to ask me for anything?

You side with the GOP because of people on this site?

Seriously?

Indirectly I suppose! I post how I feel because all I see is a bunch of automatons spewing a liberal agenda and denouncing any conservative thought or opinion, that does not sit well with me.

I have yet to find anyone on here that sees any good in any conservative way of thinking, and that tells me a lot about the posters, they have no balance whatsoever and I think that is a dangerous train of thought!

Stew, the US conservative movement has gone off the deep end since Obama was elected. Chirst, even Pete King and Tom Cole, about as far from a liberal as you could find, are basically calling their colleagues unreasonable, deluded morons in the current panic over finding a Speaker of the House. If there are policies and positions they offer that are still reasonable, please present them.

And not that I need to impress you or anyone else by embracing a conservative position, but I personally would side with them in their opposition to abortion.
#10322
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 13, 2015, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 13, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: heganboy on October 13, 2015, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
Maybe they see the democrats as eroding the nation with their policies at the peoples expense.

Fair point!

Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
At least there might be some trickle down benefit on the rich getting richer

unfortunately not-  no trickle down benefit at all- evidence disproves this theory

Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
cos there's certainly none in crack cocaine sales.
again fair point!

In a 2 horse election you don't have many options.
Some of my US friends who were democrats have switched sides mainly because they can't align with the Kenyan lads policies of pandering to the freeloaders and minority pressure groups at the expense of the good honest hard working yanks. They feel he's taken down the standards a notch to try even things out.

Yeah, your US friends sound like really thoughtful and educated people.

What a load of bollocks! ;D

So just because his friends changed their political stance, having actually lived through Obama's  Presidency, you deem them thick?

You are some pup, I mean you have the ability to ascertain a persons intelligence based solely on the fact they defected from the democrats!

What exactly is a load of bollocks?

I can only go on the info he gave i.e. the "Kenyan lad" pandering to freeloaders and minority groups at the expense of "good honest hard working yanks".

Which is utter shite.

Which is another way of saying "a load of bollocks".

It is not utter shite to them, and they live here, it is the way they feel and they are entitled to their opinion, especially as they live here, in the states there is no excuse for being on the dole for years on end, the president is an enabler!

Who is on the dole for years on end? Unemployment benefits, administered by the states, NOT the feds, generally run out after 26 weeks. The emergency federal program, which then covered people through 99 weeks (a total of less than two years), in a time of high unemployment, ended two years ago.

That aside, the idea that poor people and minorities are making out like thieves while "genuine hard working yanks" are fucked over is utter shite. Oh, Fox News and talk radio and the Tea Party may bang on about this shit and influence Foxcommander's friends, but that doesn't make it true.
#10323
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 13, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: heganboy on October 13, 2015, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
Maybe they see the democrats as eroding the nation with their policies at the peoples expense.

Fair point!

Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
At least there might be some trickle down benefit on the rich getting richer

unfortunately not-  no trickle down benefit at all- evidence disproves this theory

Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
cos there's certainly none in crack cocaine sales.
again fair point!

In a 2 horse election you don't have many options.
Some of my US friends who were democrats have switched sides mainly because they can't align with the Kenyan lads policies of pandering to the freeloaders and minority pressure groups at the expense of the good honest hard working yanks. They feel he's taken down the standards a notch to try even things out.

Yeah, your US friends sound like really thoughtful and educated people.

What a load of bollocks! ;D

So just because his friends changed their political stance, having actually lived through Obama's  Presidency, you deem them thick?

You are some pup, I mean you have the ability to ascertain a persons intelligence based solely on the fact they defected from the democrats!

What exactly is a load of bollocks?

I can only go on the info he gave i.e. the "Kenyan lad" pandering to freeloaders and minority groups at the expense of "good honest hard working yanks".

Which is utter shite.

Which is another way of saying "a load of bollocks".
#10324
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
Stew, why all the ranting and raging and venom against anything that isn't a Republican?

And where is the link I asked you for?

I am not a republican, never have been, I would prefer them over that other shower, and the main reason is because too many on here side with the democrats and since they have been shite for 7 years I want to see change.

Who the f**k are you to ask me for anything?

You side with the GOP because of people on this site?

Seriously?
#10325
Quote from: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2015, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: Declan on October 13, 2015, 02:25:28 PM
Interesting read
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/13/the-hard-right-swerve-of-the-super-rich.html?via=desktop&source=twitter

Not particularly surprising though.

I have always wondered how the Republicans ever got votes from anyone with a net worth less than $10,000,000. Turkeys voting for massively wealthy turkey producers.

Really? people are sick and tired of this namby pamby President who has done next to nothing for the poor, in fact there are more homeless people now than when he took office!

Instead of going after the wealthy and taxing them fairly he sat on his hands, he has done feck all on gun control and the national debt is absolutely incredible under this arsehole! He is a fantastically ungifted person, he has nothing good to offer the country and his presidency is a nightmare!

This country needs a third option in the worst way, and a fourth and the sad thing with people like you muppet is that you cannot see that there are good people in both parties, with good idea's.

When Walker became Governor of Wisconsin some newly elected liberal asswipes actually fled, scurried like rats to Illinois because he was going after the Unions, they only came back under threat of jail time, that is the sort of shite the liberals were up to in the State I lived in for 20 years! They then went after him, tried to impeach him and he beat them again, I have no use for Walker but I loved it that he stuck it to those gutless liberal w**k stains!

Nice rant.

You must have missed where he got the higher rate of tax for high earners a couple of years back after the election,  and McConnell vowed "no more!" And the various times he asked for increases to fund stuff like infrastructure.  Not much he can with the Congress that exists, which would rather do nothing than give Obama even a hint of a victory,  even if it is something they themselves might ordinarily agree with.

As for guns,  what exactly would you have him do? Same with what happened to the debt. There was a major,  major recession, in case you didn't notice.
#10326
Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: heganboy on October 13, 2015, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
Maybe they see the democrats as eroding the nation with their policies at the peoples expense.

Fair point!

Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
At least there might be some trickle down benefit on the rich getting richer

unfortunately not-  no trickle down benefit at all- evidence disproves this theory

Quote from: foxcommander on October 13, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
cos there's certainly none in crack cocaine sales.
again fair point!

In a 2 horse election you don't have many options.
Some of my US friends who were democrats have switched sides mainly because they can't align with the Kenyan lads policies of pandering to the freeloaders and minority pressure groups at the expense of the good honest hard working yanks. They feel he's taken down the standards a notch to try even things out.

Yeah, your US friends sound like really thoughtful and educated people.

What a load of bollocks! ;D
#10327
GAA Discussion / Re: Humble Bernard Brogan
October 13, 2015, 03:16:07 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 10, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
Since Berno came on the scene as a regular, about 2007 or so, he has been incredibly consistent. even on bad days he chips in with a score or two and on good days he is unplayable at full forward. This year he has been a real team player - unselfish, making space for others. Even the day of the final, when nothing was sticking for him personally, he still got 0-2, and two other Dublin points were set up directly from turnovers he engineered.

To paraphrase the Ronan Clarke thread, if he played for Kerry you'd never hear the end of him. Legend.

Why was he so (relatively) late making the breakthrough to the Dubs first 15?
#10328
They want to "take their country back"... apparently to the 1950s.
#10329
Wedge issues.  Guns, god and gays.
Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2015, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: Declan on October 13, 2015, 02:25:28 PM
Interesting read
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/13/the-hard-right-swerve-of-the-super-rich.html?via=desktop&source=twitter

Not particularly surprising though.

I have always wondered how the Republicans ever got votes from anyone with a net worth less than $10,000,000. Turkeys voting for massively wealthy turkey producers.

Wedge issues. Guns,  god, gays,  immigrants, science etc. etc.
#10330
Quote from: heganboy on October 09, 2015, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 09, 2015, 01:17:23 PM
Consider whose votes he has to win.

It's called "pandering"

in the next 13 months he needs the majority of the electoral colleges, He's already done enough to make that impossible

Its a trend though.  Romney did it last time and could not recover. He tried moving to the centre,  especially in the first debate when Obama was completely listless and unprepared,  but the damage was done.

Unfortunately for them, the deranged lunatics who vote in GOP primaries bear little resemblance to the general electorate.

Even in Congress,  no one outside of the Tea Party crew wants to be Speaker of the House. These types do not get the concept of compromise and the realities of politics in an evenly divided country.
#10331
Awful. RIP
#10332
Consider whose votes he has to win.

It's called "pandering"
#10333
General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture
October 07, 2015, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 07, 2015, 03:36:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on October 06, 2015, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 06, 2015, 09:20:51 PM
This guy and the Newtown guy (and quite a few of the other shooters) were taking some type of anti psychotic medication-usually Ritalin or some such drug, which gets completely over prescribed over here.

Its the easy way out for the schools and parents who often dont have the resources to work through minor behavioral issues (thats a generalization, but true for the most part)

Many of the shooters were/are also "on the spectrum", ie suffering from some form of Autism.

Why anyone would think giving someone like thata gun, is beyond me.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32858/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414/

I didn't realise that about medication and these shooters.

That opens up a few issues, not least the issuing of guns (6!) as you mentioned. I spent a summer in the States in my teens and one of the family I stayed with was (as it was called then) moderately mentally handicapped. I  know we are talking about a different part of the spectrum, and probably a different spectrum, but I was very impressed with the organisation of his life and the routine that his family and wider community had made for him.

My impression of the States, as a result, was that the community offered great support to those in need. But maybe this was not that widespread?

Well the problem is, you cant legislate for stupidity.  Who would give a gun (of any description) to someone suffering from mental problems? 

Theres great support for the disabled in the States.....50 times better than what youd find in Ireland The wealthier the state and the town, the better it gets. ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) provides for all sorts of support that is legally mandated.

The question is....where does someones RIGHT to own a gun end?

It used to end with assault weapons until the NRA-owned congress allowed the ban to lapse.
#10334
General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture
October 06, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
90% of Americans own guns??

Sounds like bullshit to me.

What's the source Stew?
#10335
General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture
October 06, 2015, 02:07:59 PM
Quote from: Declan on October 06, 2015, 07:42:38 AM
An 11-year-old boy in the US state of Tennessee has been held on suspicion of shooting dead an eight-year-old neighbour in a row over a puppy.
The boy has been charged with first-degree murder as a juvenile.
According to police, he shot the girl on Saturday evening with his father's shotgun after she refused to let him see her puppy.
The girl has been identified as McKayla Dyer. Her mother Latasha said that the two children went to the same school.
"He was making fun of her, calling her names, just being mean to her. He quit for a while and then all of a sudden yesterday he shot her," Ms Dyer told WATE-TV.
I want her back in my arms," she said.
McKayla Dyer's mother Latasha said that the boy had previously been bullying her daughter
Neighbour Chastity Arwood told WBIR News that she heard the shot ring out and saw McKayla lying on the grass.
"Trying to comfort her mama and her aunt and her grandma and her grandpa and her sister and her brother was the hardest thing I ever had to do," Ms Arwood said.
The boy is scheduled to appear in court again on 28 October.

The Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit organisation that compiles data on gun violence in the US, says 559 children aged 11 or under have been killed or injured in the United States in gun violence so far this year.


You see, that child might not be dead if she had been carrying a firearm to protect herself. ::)