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Title: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 12:07:05 AM
Sadly this highly entertaining and popular grade comes to a end this year. The final ever U21 championship commences this Wednesday.

Leinster

1st round
22-2-17

Westmeath v Meath
Wicklow v Louth
Carlow v Wexford

Quarter finals

1-3-17

Dublin v Meath/Westmeath
Kildare v Longford
Carlow/Wexford v Offaly
Laois v Wicklow/Louth

Semi finals

15-3-17

Dublin/Meath/Westmeath v Kildare/Longford
Carlow/Wexford/Offaly v Laois/Wicklow/Louth



Ulster


Preliminary round

8-3-17

Antrim v Monaghan

Quarter finals

15-3-17

Tyrone v Donegal
Fermanagh v Cavan
Armagh v Down
Derry v Antrim/Monaghan

Semi finals

Tyrone/Donegal v Fermanagh/Cavan
Armagh/Down v Derry/Antrim/Monaghan


Munster

Quarter finals
8-3-17

Kerry v Clare
Tipperary v Limerick

Semi finals
15-3-17

Waterford v Kerry/Clare
Cork v Tipperary/Limerick



Connacht

Preliminary round
11-3-17

Galway v Leitrim

Semi finals
22-3-17
Roscommon v Sligo
Galway/Leitrim v Mayo

All Ireland semi finals

15.04.17

Connacht v Munster
Leinster v Ulster

All Ireland final

29.04.17
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on February 21, 2017, 01:22:28 AM
Start to finish, it takes seven weeks to complete this competition.

Maybe we could learn something from this.

Who would be favorites for this, I assume Kerry must be near the top considering they have won the minors for the last few years.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2017, 01:28:55 AM
Kerry with three in a row minor All Ireland winning teams and arguably the best manager the clear favourites.

Galway,Mayo in Connacht will be All Ireland contenders. Kildare Dublin look like the two best in Leinster. Winner of Tyrone v Donegal will probably win Ulster and beat the best in Leinster.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 21, 2017, 08:24:55 AM
Rumour has it that not only do we not fear the Dubs, we're also never beaten.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sam03/05 on February 21, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
Disgrace that this competition is being scrapped.
It produces some of the best / entertaining do or die matches of the GAA calendar - attracting good crowds. All played in 7 weeks which is how things should be done.
It is the best stepping stone for players to step up to senior squads.
It's a disgrace what it's being replaced with- an u20 competition to be played at the height of summer.
How on earth will that work with clubs etc. Also if a player has been in a senior squad then he can't play. Which makes the competition a farce - Donegal will find it hard to even field a team next year.
It will also lead to a lot of player drop out - at 20 years of age it is very difficult to make a senior squad, most are not ready - the u21s was a great bridge for this.
I predict it will be brought. Back in 3 or 4 years time. This was The GAA answer to the fixture problem
Instead of addressing the real issues. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on February 21, 2017, 02:16:05 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on February 21, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
It's a disgrace what it's being replaced with- an u20 competition to be played at the height of summer

How on earth will that work with clubs etc. Also if a player has been in a senior squad then he can't play. Which makes the competition a farce - Donegal will find it hard to even field a team next year.
It will also lead to a lot of player drop out - at 20 years of age it is very difficult to make a senior squad, most are not ready - the u21s was a great bridge for this.
I predict it will be brought. Back in 3 or 4 years time. This was The GAA answer to the fixture problem
Instead of addressing the real issues.
How congress passed the motion with that replacement tournament is a real head scratcher. I hope your prediction is right but I doubt it when you consider Paraic Duffy spent over a decade trying to and finally succeeding to scrap this competition.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on February 21, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Has Mr Duffy overtaken the GPA as the chief bogeyman around here? ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2017, 04:47:24 PM
Whatever about the GPA and their members I think Mr Duffy is hypocrite. A man so against this competition for years and now that its in the final year he came out with these words last week.

Quote
Speaking on behalf of the GAA, Director General Paraic Duffy said: "Since its inception in 1964 the EirGrid U21 Football Championship has been so much more than a stepping stone linking minor and senior, but has always been an outstanding competition in its own right.

"Go down through the list of teams who have carried off the Tim Clarke Cup and it will be dotted with so many of the legends of Gaelic football who signposted their emerging talents with their displays at this grade.

"It remains the case today.  These young stars are the senior heroes of tomorrow and give us great hope and confidence in the future of our Association, while the knockout nature of the competition is a great reward for teams that show consistent high performance

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on February 21, 2017, 05:37:09 PM
Donegal highly tipped the year, but expect Tyrone to catch them in the Quarter Final, seriously talented team coming in a little under the radar.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 21, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
Armagh, Derry and Monaghan should be decent this year as well.

Would Derry have many u21s involved with Slaughtneil? McGuigan would certainly be a starter for Derry.

All the talk last year was of Tyrone and Donegal and in the end it was Monaghan who won it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.

Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.

Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
and while Kerry will be most peoples tip to win both Munster and the All Ireland this year it should be noted they havent won a Munster title at this grade since 2008.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on February 21, 2017, 10:09:04 PM
Tyrone have been going well in challenge games but the fact we pulled out of the Shamrock Cup has meant its hard to know exactly where we are. We've beaten Cork, Dublin, Down and Slaughtneil but lost narrowly to Kildare. We play Donegal in first round which should be a hum dinger in Omagh.
Word on Armagh and Monaghan is good too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 21, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 21, 2017, 10:09:04 PM
Tyrone have been going well in challenge games but the fact we pulled out of the Shamrock Cup has meant its hard to know exactly where we are. We've beaten Cork, Dublin, Down and Slaughtneil but lost narrowly to Kildare. We play Donegal in first round which should be a hum dinger in Omagh.
Word on Armagh and Monaghan is good too.

You'd have to be impressed if Slaughtneil win the Ulster under-21 as well.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: stevecw on February 21, 2017, 11:26:50 PM
My own team Carlow are struggling for this one. Eire Og who are very strong at u-21 level have nobody on the panel. 2 of the better players are out due to illness. Can only see Wexford winning this easily, if you can get any bookies to give you decent odds go for it.
Louth will also hammer Wicklow, home advantage in Baltinglass is no use to them. A very poor side, kinda thrown together really from what I hear and will be well beaten too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on February 22, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
and while Kerry will be most peoples tip to win both Munster and the All Ireland this year it should be noted they havent won a Munster title at this grade since 2008.

One Connacht final in 8 years? Really? Then I stand corrected. In saying that, they are reigning Connacht and All Ireland Champions and will be in the shake up again this year.
Oh and Sligo will beat Rossies.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: blanketattack on February 22, 2017, 09:43:10 AM
I fancy Cork, were unlucky to lose last years u21 final and have most of that team again. Kerry have lost 3 of their best players from their minor team 3 years ago, one to Irish dancing, one to Aussie Rules and one to injury.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on February 22, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Oh and Sligo will beat Roscommon.

Can't wait till the Rossies wake up and read this - 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
They probably will but I wonder do they still remember the laps of honour they were doing before the Connacht Final in 2010  ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Brapbrap on February 22, 2017, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 22, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
They probably will but I wonder do they still remember the laps of honour they were doing before the Connacht Final in 2010  ;)

Shut up you and support your home county.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 22, 2017, 03:27:49 PM
Quote from: Brapbrap on February 22, 2017, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 22, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
They probably will but I wonder do they still remember the laps of honour they were doing before the Connacht Final in 2010  ;)

Shut up you and support your home county.

Larrin, all this anger isn't healthy for you.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Brapbrap on February 22, 2017, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2017, 03:27:49 PM
Quote from: Brapbrap on February 22, 2017, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 22, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
They probably will but I wonder do they still remember the laps of honour they were doing before the Connacht Final in 2010  ;)

Shut up you and support your home county.

Larrin, all this anger isn't healthy for you.

I'm a happy man young cub. I live a blissful existence.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 22, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
and while Kerry will be most peoples tip to win both Munster and the All Ireland this year it should be noted they havent won a Munster title at this grade since 2008.

One Connacht final in 8 years? Really? Then I stand corrected. In saying that, they are reigning Connacht and All Ireland Champions and will be in the shake up again this year.
Oh and Sligo will beat Rossies.

2006 to 2009 Mayo won 4 in a row Connacht titles and one All Ireland. The majority of the Mayo senior panel 2011 to 2015 came from those 4 U21 teams. Last year was Mayos first U21 Connacht final appearance and win since 2009 and they reached that final by beating just Leitrim and only beat Roscommon by one point in the final. Galway I can imagine will be more than a match for Mayo this year afterall they were the best minor team in Connacht by some distance the last two years.

By all accounts Roscommon aren't meant to be strong at U21 level this year and they have lost key players to injury. It's a great opportunity for Sligo to reach the final but hard to see them troubling Galway or Mayo in the final.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 22, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 22, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 22, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
and while Kerry will be most peoples tip to win both Munster and the All Ireland this year it should be noted they havent won a Munster title at this grade since 2008.

One Connacht final in 8 years? Really? Then I stand corrected. In saying that, they are reigning Connacht and All Ireland Champions and will be in the shake up again this year.
Oh and Sligo will beat Rossies.

2006 to 2009 Mayo won 4 in a row Connacht titles and one All Ireland. The majority of the Mayo senior panel 2011 to 2015 came from those 4 U21 teams. Last year was Mayos first U21 Connacht final appearance and win since 2009 and they reached that final by beating just Leitrim and only beat Roscommon by one point in the final. Galway I can imagine will be more than a match for Mayo this year afterall they were the best minor team in Connacht by some distance the last two years.

By all accounts Roscommon aren't meant to be strong at U21 level this year and they have lost key players to injury. It's a great opportunity for Sligo to reach the final but hard to see them troubling Galway or Mayo in the final.

Strong enough to win a bit of tin in the pre-season..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2017, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 22, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 22, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
and while Kerry will be most peoples tip to win both Munster and the All Ireland this year it should be noted they havent won a Munster title at this grade since 2008.

One Connacht final in 8 years? Really? Then I stand corrected. In saying that, they are reigning Connacht and All Ireland Champions and will be in the shake up again this year.
Oh and Sligo will beat Rossies.

2006 to 2009 Mayo won 4 in a row Connacht titles and one All Ireland. The majority of the Mayo senior panel 2011 to 2015 came from those 4 U21 teams. Last year was Mayos first U21 Connacht final appearance and win since 2009 and they reached that final by beating just Leitrim and only beat Roscommon by one point in the final. Galway I can imagine will be more than a match for Mayo this year afterall they were the best minor team in Connacht by some distance the last two years.

By all accounts Roscommon aren't meant to be strong at U21 level this year and they have lost key players to injury. It's a great opportunity for Sligo to reach the final but hard to see them troubling Galway or Mayo in the final.

Strong enough to win a bit of tin in the pre-season..
You do realise that bit of tin was for the loser section of the competition? In the Hastings cup Roscommon played three group games and were well beaten in all 3.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Brapbrap on February 22, 2017, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 22, 2017, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 22, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 22, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: ck on February 21, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: Sleater on February 21, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
Expecting Ulster to be a Donegal v Monaghan final with Donegal favourites. Ususal suspects of Dublin, Corkr, Mayo and Kerry to be there or there abouts in the eventual shake up

Mayo are anything but the usual suspects at U21.


Of course they're usual suspects!! Always in the shake up at this grade. I can't see anyone touching them in Connacht this year.

Someone above said "Kerry are a mess". I assume that is some strange attempt at sarcasm? Kerry are awesome this year. Easily the best talent pool in Ireland and a top manager. Kerry for All Ireland

They've made one Connacht final in eight years. I want what you're smoking.


For once Syferus you have a point.
and while Kerry will be most peoples tip to win both Munster and the All Ireland this year it should be noted they havent won a Munster title at this grade since 2008.

One Connacht final in 8 years? Really? Then I stand corrected. In saying that, they are reigning Connacht and All Ireland Champions and will be in the shake up again this year.
Oh and Sligo will beat Rossies.

2006 to 2009 Mayo won 4 in a row Connacht titles and one All Ireland. The majority of the Mayo senior panel 2011 to 2015 came from those 4 U21 teams. Last year was Mayos first U21 Connacht final appearance and win since 2009 and they reached that final by beating just Leitrim and only beat Roscommon by one point in the final. Galway I can imagine will be more than a match for Mayo this year afterall they were the best minor team in Connacht by some distance the last two years.

By all accounts Roscommon aren't meant to be strong at U21 level this year and they have lost key players to injury. It's a great opportunity for Sligo to reach the final but hard to see them troubling Galway or Mayo in the final.

Strong enough to win a bit of tin in the pre-season..
You do realise that bit of tin was for the loser section of the competition? In the Hastings cup Roscommon played three group games and were well beaten in all 3.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2017, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)
First shock result, Dublin next for Westmeath. Wexford won pulling up against Carlow. Wicklow v Louth was called off with unplayable pitch.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: LilySavage on February 22, 2017, 09:47:57 PM
Royals not great in  a tight finish this past ten year.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)

Time for Westmeath and East Westmeath to be unsplit ?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 10:56:38 PM
We are culturally incompatible.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2017, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 10:56:38 PM
We are culturally incompatible.

Indeed - Westies  are good at football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 12:31:36 AM
Meath beaten by the runners-up for that bit of tin I mentioned..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: on the sideline on February 23, 2017, 12:42:07 AM
Monaghan have lost Barry McGinn for the rest of the year after he did his cruciate against Derry in the Shamrock Cup on Sunday.  That was his third game in three days!!!  He was on the UCD team that played in the Sigerson on Friday and Saturday before lining out for his county on the Sunday.  That is utter madness.  Poor fella.  He was man of the match against Tyrone in the Ulster Final last year.

Did Monaghan really need to play him in a  Shamrock Cup game after he'd already played  games on the two days previous to it? Surely they already knew what he could do from last year.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2017, 01:39:48 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 23, 2017, 12:42:07 AM
Monaghan have lost Barry McGinn for the rest of the year after he did his cruciate against Derry in the Shamrock Cup on Sunday.  That was his third game in three days!!!  He was on the UCD team that played in the Sigerson on Friday and Saturday before lining out for his county on the Sunday.  That is utter madness.  Poor fella.  He was man of the match against Tyrone in the Ulster Final last year.

Did Monaghan really need to play him in a  Shamrock Cup game after he'd already played  games on the two days previous to it? Surely they already knew what he could do from last year.
No Monaghan really should have known better to not have McGinn playing again on Sunday in a pre-season game however as i said before Sigerson/college football is more responsible for burn out and serious injuries than the U21 championship ever was.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)

Time for Westmeath and East Westmeath to be unsplit ?

It's just Eastmeath. And God no. We have over a hundred years of beating them into the ground to catch up on.

Not a night for football by all accounts last night. Wasn't a whole lot expected off these lads but one thing you're guaranteed with Keane and Wilson over them is pride and passion. They kept going right to the end last night and got their just rewards.

Home game against the Dubs next Wednesday, similar conditions might give us a fighting chance against the pros.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: The Subbie on February 23, 2017, 10:33:09 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 

Quote from: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 



Correct, beyond senseless, Dinky McBride is the Monaghan U21 manager, from what I read McGinn was brought on as a sub in a game the Monaghan team won pulling up.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on February 23, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)

Time for Westmeath and East Westmeath to be unsplit ?

It's just Eastmeath. And God no. We have over a hundred years of beating them into the ground to catch up on.

Not a night for football by all accounts last night. Wasn't a whole lot expected off these lads but one thing you're guaranteed with Keane and Wilson over them is pride and passion. They kept going right to the end last night and got their just rewards.

Home game against the Dubs next Wednesday, similar conditions might give us a fighting chance against the pros.

Very little expected for sure. It's hard to imagine any of last night's team playing senior championship this year. Yet they beat a Meath team that had quite a bit expected of them. Another wet day will suit for sure, there is a good level of physicality throughout Westmeath team. Although one of the big men, Finbarr Coyne, got a straight red last night. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 23, 2017, 10:37:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 12:31:36 AM
Meath beaten by the runners-up for that bit of tin I mentioned..

Meath actually won the only real bit of tin in that competition, Syf.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 23, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 23, 2017, 12:42:07 AM
Monaghan have lost Barry McGinn for the rest of the year after he did his cruciate against Derry in the Shamrock Cup on Sunday.  That was his third game in three days!!!  He was on the UCD team that played in the Sigerson on Friday and Saturday before lining out for his county on the Sunday.  That is utter madness.  Poor fella.  He was man of the match against Tyrone in the Ulster Final last year.

Did Monaghan really need to play him in a  Shamrock Cup game after he'd already played  games on the two days previous to it? Surely they already knew what he could do from last year.

Its hard to believe how at a manager at that level could be so idiotic.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)

Time for Westmeath and East Westmeath to be unsplit ?

It's just Eastmeath. And God no. We have over a hundred years of beating them into the ground to catch up on.

Not a night for football by all accounts last night. Wasn't a whole lot expected off these lads but one thing you're guaranteed with Keane and Wilson over them is pride and passion. They kept going right to the end last night and got their just rewards.

Home game against the Dubs next Wednesday, similar conditions might give us a fighting chance against the pros.

Very little expected for sure. It's hard to imagine any of last night's team playing senior championship this year. Yet they beat a Meath team that had quite a bit expected of them. Another wet day will suit for sure, there is a good level of physicality throughout Westmeath team. Although one of the big men, Finbarr Coyne, got a straight red last night.

Heard it got fairly hairy at the end, all 3 reds deserved shark?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: DuffleKing on February 23, 2017, 11:19:32 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 23, 2017, 12:42:07 AM
Monaghan have lost Barry McGinn for the rest of the year after he did his cruciate against Derry in the Shamrock Cup on Sunday.  That was his third game in three days!!!  He was on the UCD team that played in the Sigerson on Friday and Saturday before lining out for his county on the Sunday.  That is utter madness.  Poor fella.  He was man of the match against Tyrone in the Ulster Final last year.

Did Monaghan really need to play him in a  Shamrock Cup game after he'd already played  games on the two days previous to it? Surely they already knew what he could do from last year.

What in the name of Jesus Christ and all that is holy were the Monaghan u21 management playing at. They have now changed the course of one the of brightest young players in Ulster's career. I hope the young fella can come back stronger than ever but McBride should be shot with a ball of his own dung for even having him at the game to watch ffs.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 23, 2017, 11:37:01 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)

Time for Westmeath and East Westmeath to be unsplit ?

It's just Eastmeath. And God no. We have over a hundred years of beating them into the ground to catch up on.

Not a night for football by all accounts last night. Wasn't a whole lot expected off these lads but one thing you're guaranteed with Keane and Wilson over them is pride and passion. They kept going right to the end last night and got their just rewards.

Home game against the Dubs next Wednesday, similar conditions might give us a fighting chance against the pros.

Very little expected for sure. It's hard to imagine any of last night's team playing senior championship this year. Yet they beat a Meath team that had quite a bit expected of them. Another wet day will suit for sure, there is a good level of physicality throughout Westmeath team. Although one of the big men, Finbarr Coyne, got a straight red last night.

Heard it got fairly hairy at the end, all 3 reds deserved shark?

Typical Westmeath.
Can't win playing football...
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:45:57 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 23, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
We lost to Westmeath ffs.  ::)

Time for Westmeath and East Westmeath to be unsplit ?

It's just Eastmeath. And God no. We have over a hundred years of beating them into the ground to catch up on.

Not a night for football by all accounts last night. Wasn't a whole lot expected off these lads but one thing you're guaranteed with Keane and Wilson over them is pride and passion. They kept going right to the end last night and got their just rewards.

Home game against the Dubs next Wednesday, similar conditions might give us a fighting chance against the pros.

Very little expected for sure. It's hard to imagine any of last night's team playing senior championship this year. Yet they beat a Meath team that had quite a bit expected of them. Another wet day will suit for sure, there is a good level of physicality throughout Westmeath team. Although one of the big men, Finbarr Coyne, got a straight red last night.

Heard it got fairly hairy at the end, all 3 reds deserved shark?

The latter two probably were alright. Conlon's red I didn't see, but it was certainly the turning point of the game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on February 23, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on February 23, 2017, 10:33:09 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 

Quote from: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 



Correct, beyond senseless, Dinky McBride is the Monaghan U21 manager, from what I read McGinn was brought on as a sub in a game the Monaghan team won pulling up.

It's madness alright but is there actual cause and effect here? Is a cruciate an injury that is caused or exacerbated by over use, or is it one of those things that can happen at any time, and all you are doing by playing more games is giving more opportunity in an odds sense?

Playing 3 days in a row is beyond the pale, but I'm not sure you can blame a cruciate on that. A hamstring, or a muscle injury of some kind, sure, but a structural issue like a cruciate? Maybe some of the guys in that field of work could clarify?

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2017, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 23, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on February 23, 2017, 10:33:09 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 

Quote from: thewobbler on February 23, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
This disregard for player wellbeing is beyond fucked up.

I don't have a clue who is in charge of Monaghan u21s, but I sincerely hope their season ends quickly they never get another job in football.

Part of me wants "state intervention" to stop this shit happening. But really, all it needs is common sense. The thought of 3 hard training sessions in a row would give managers palpitations, but after back-to-back championship games, sure let's play another. Madness. 



Correct, beyond senseless, Dinky McBride is the Monaghan U21 manager, from what I read McGinn was brought on as a sub in a game the Monaghan team won pulling up.

It's madness alright but is there actual cause and effect here? Is a cruciate an injury that is caused or exacerbated by over use, or is it one of those things that can happen at any time, and all you are doing by playing more games is giving more opportunity in an odds sense?

Playing 3 days in a row is beyond the pale, but I'm not sure you can blame a cruciate on that. A hamstring, or a muscle injury of some kind, sure, but a structural issue like a cruciate? Maybe some of the guys in that field of work could clarify?
Simply put his quad/medial hamstrings didn't contract hard enough or fast enough due to fatigue in his muscles. The load definitely would have affected his ability to turn quickly...land safely. Didn't see the incident obviously but that would have been the likely mechanism.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 23, 2017, 10:37:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 12:31:36 AM
Meath beaten by the runners-up for that bit of tin I mentioned..

Meath actually won the only real bit of tin in that competition, Syf.

Looks like the Shield competition was the higher quality one so. Bit like the big teams at senior, the best usually don't start fast..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on February 23, 2017, 01:52:12 PM
Had my head in my hands when I read that McGinn played 3 games in 3 days but that's mild madness when compared to the incompetence of the Monaghan manager putting him on in a Mickey mouse game. Monaghan are supposed to be a very good side but with actions like this by their manager then I wouldn't be wishing them luck. Sooner they're out the better.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 23, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Unfortunately, we still have people in charge of teams at a so-called 'elite' level in the GAA who know more about astrophysics than they do about human physiology.
It's all about short-term gain.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on February 23, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 23, 2017, 12:42:07 AM
Monaghan have lost Barry McGinn for the rest of the year after he did his cruciate against Derry in the Shamrock Cup on Sunday.  That was his third game in three days!!!  He was on the UCD team that played in the Sigerson on Friday and Saturday before lining out for his county on the Sunday.  That is utter madness.  Poor fella.  He was man of the match against Tyrone in the Ulster Final last year.

Did Monaghan really need to play him in a  Shamrock Cup game after he'd already played  games on the two days previous to it? Surely they already knew what he could do from last year.

Manager should be sacked for that for neglecting player welfare. Total disregard for player having played two tough games on a heavy pitch.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on February 23, 2017, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 23, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Unfortunately, we still have people in charge of teams at a so-called 'elite' level in the GAA who know more about astrophysics than they do about human physiology.
It's all about short-term gain.

And to be fair to them, look at sites like this and dopes like Joe Brolly who savage people if they don't get results. It's not easy sometimes to sacrifice the short term in favour of the long term. As they say in the NFL, you might be drafting the franchise QB for the next coach.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on February 23, 2017, 08:30:59 PM
Galway, Donegal and Cork could be in the mix too. Monaghan likely contenders in Ulster despite a manager who flogs players!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1      
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 23, 2017, 10:22:20 PM
A Cuala win against Slaughtneil should be enough to keep Con O'Callaghan out. Not that it has anything to do with Kildare who need to beat Longford first who are always a tough game at this grade. Dublin and Kerry both beat us well at minor 3 years ago.

Kildare are without Paul Mescal who would have been their best defender as he is focusing on his studies while Rory Feely who is very talented is missing this year due to soccer commitments with St Pats. Jimmy Hyland who was the star forward on the last 2 minor teams is recovering from ACL surgery. So all in all we are not as strong as we might have been but would be hopeful that we are still somewhat competitive.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.

Schools success in Connacht has had feck all correlation with minor county level, though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.

Schools success in Connacht has had feck all correlation with minor county level, though.

True. No Galway school has been doing much good in recent years anyway. Not even Jarlath's.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on February 24, 2017, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.

Obviously.

Whatever about senior, envenitability is not something that exsists at underage, thankfully.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 24, 2017, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 24, 2017, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.

Obviously.

Whatever about senior, envenitability is not something that exsists at underage, thankfully.

Do you mean inevitability?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: moysider on February 24, 2017, 01:01:28 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.

Schools success in Connacht has had feck all correlation with minor county level, though.

True. No Galway school has been doing much good in recent years anyway. Not even Jarlath's.

A lot of Mayo underage players come from all over the place as regards schools. We never had those super schools like Jarlath's used to be. Sligo have 2 super schools now with Attracta's and Summerhill. Most of their minors will come out of those schools. Last year Mayo had a very competitive A colleges team and don't think any of that team even made the minor panel.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on February 24, 2017, 01:13:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 24, 2017, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.

Obviously.

Whatever about senior, envenitability is not something that exsists at underage, thankfully.

I don't mean to belittle anyone's chances, I'd love to see a long shot win of course. But as romantic as your post sounds, I reckon you'd have to go a hell of a long way back to find a 20/1 (or longer) winner of the u21 all-Ireland. I'd make a guess at 1999.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on February 24, 2017, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2017, 01:01:28 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.

Schools success in Connacht has had feck all correlation with minor county level, though.

True. No Galway school has been doing much good in recent years anyway. Not even Jarlath's.

A lot of Mayo underage players come from all over the place as regards schools. We never had those super schools like Jarlath's used to be. Sligo have 2 super schools now with Attracta's and Summerhill. Most of their minors will come out of those schools. Last year Mayo had a very competitive A colleges team and don't think any of that team even made the minor panel.
Speaking of schools football...Mayo has representation in grade this year..Claremorris vs Tubbercurry in the A final. Ballinrobe vs Athenry in the B final next Monday, Ballyhaunis in the C final Saturday....and Belmullet have won the D final already.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2017, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 23, 2017, 10:22:20 PM
A Cuala win against Slaughtneil should be enough to keep Con O'Callaghan out. Not that it has anything to do with Kildare who need to beat Longford first who are always a tough game at this grade. Dublin and Kerry both beat us well at minor 3 years ago.

Kildare are without Paul Mescal who would have been their best defender as he is focusing on his studies while Rory Feely who is very talented is missing this year due to soccer commitments with St Pats. Jimmy Hyland who was the star forward on the last 2 minor teams is recovering from ACL surgery. So all in all we are not as strong as we might have been but would be hopeful that we are still somewhat competitive.

I watched the Kildare minors last summer against Mayo and thought Jack Robinson was the best player on the pitch by a mile, a joy to watch. Is he on the u21's this year or is he still a minor?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 24, 2017, 04:43:16 PM
He played in the McNulty cup already this year so should be on the panel, has great pace and the ability to go past his man but we have a good collection of decent forwards available with good experience so he more than likely won't start. He was a little inconsistent at minor level and Kerry dealt with easily in the semi final last year. 4 of the 6 forwards who started the u21 leinster final are underage again this year with Ben McCormack being the pick of them. He is due to start against Derry Sunday which might be a bit of a risk going into the Longford game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on February 28, 2017, 12:00:22 AM
Challenge match result from last week.
Cavan 3-18 Sligo 1-9

Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on February 28, 2017, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: ck on February 28, 2017, 12:00:22 AM
Challenge match result from last week.
Cavan 3-18 Sligo 1-9

Make of that what you will.

Cavan maybe figured out they need some forwards?

I always laugh at the odds and the giving off about them. The reason Westmeath are lower odds than say Ros could be for a number of reasons. Maybe Ros has an easier route out of Connacht, wont have to face the favourites as early etc. Maybe there are a load of ejits in Ros betting like mad on Ros to win too. The bookies are no fools, its all about managing their risk.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 28, 2017, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.
Odds are based on progression out rather than sheer talent

Connacht this year
Ros are 11/4 vs Galway 3/1
Galway are better than Ros but have to play Mayo

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-football/connach-senior-football-championship
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Games tomorrow.

Leinster U21FC first round
Wicklow v Louth, Baltinglass, 7.30pm

Leinster U21FC quarter-finals
Westmeath v Dublin, Lakepoint Mullingar, 7.30pm
Kildare v Longford, Hawkfield, 7.30pm
Offaly v Wexford, Gracefield, 7.30pm
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on February 28, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 28, 2017, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: shark on February 23, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.
Odds are based on progression out rather than sheer talent

Connacht this year
Ros are 11/4 vs Galway 3/1
Galway are better than Ros but have to play Mayo

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-football/connach-senior-football-championship

That's exactly the point I'm making. Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thewobbler on February 28, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
Interesting that Armagh are 20/1 and Down are 250/1.

They meet in the first round and from what I know of both teams, there'll be no fear in either camp.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Games tomorrow.

Leinster U21FC first round
Wicklow v Louth, Baltinglass, 7.30pm

Leinster U21FC quarter-finals
Westmeath v Dublin, Lakepoint Mullingar, 7.30pm
Kildare v Longford, Hawkfield, 7.30pm
Offaly v Wexford, Gracefield, 7.30pm

For those looking for value Longford could be the bet. Kildare are missing Jimmy Hyland, Ciaran Kelly, Brian McLoughlin, Ethan O'Donoghue, Rory Feely, Tony Archibald, Paul Mescal, Alan Scully, that's a lot of underage talent plus our league star Ben McCormack is a doubt, missed the Derry game with a strain.

Longford have a good underage pedigree in recent seasons probably 3rd behind Kildare and Dublin in Leinster. Home advantage might swing it but expect it will be tight.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on February 28, 2017, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Games tomorrow.

Leinster U21FC first round
Wicklow v Louth, Baltinglass, 7.30pm

Leinster U21FC quarter-finals
Westmeath v Dublin, Lakepoint Mullingar, 7.30pm
Kildare v Longford, Hawkfield, 7.30pm
Offaly v Wexford, Gracefield, 7.30pm

For those looking for value Longford could be the bet. Kildare are missing Jimmy Hyland, Ciaran Kelly, Brian McLoughlin, Ethan O'Donoghue, Rory Feely, Tony Archibald, Paul Mescal, Alan Scully, that's a lot of underage talent plus our league star Ben McCormack is a doubt, missed the Derry game with a strain.

Longford have a good underage pedigree in recent seasons probably 3rd behind Kildare and Dublin in Leinster. Home advantage might swing it but expect it will be tight.

Nonsense. Kildare will easily dispose of Longford tomorrow night and probably go to win Leinster
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 28, 2017, 09:39:50 PM
Kildare will struggle if McCormack isn't right and Mescal is a huge loss.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on February 28, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
I saw Kildare a couple of weeks ago. Was very impressed by them. They'll be hard to stop.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on February 28, 2017, 10:27:39 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 24, 2017, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2017, 01:01:28 AM
[quote aucthor=GalwayBayBoy link=topic=27690.msg1671988#msg1671988 date=1487893023]
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.

Schools success in Connacht has had feck all correlation with minor county level, though.

True. No Galway school has been doing much good in recent years anyway. Not even Jarlath's.

A lot of Mayo underage players come from all over the place as regards schools. We never had those super schools like Jarlath's used to be. Sligo have 2 super schools now with Attracta's and Summerhill. Most of their minors will come out of those schools. Last year Mayo had a very competitive A colleges team and don't think any of that team even made the minor panel.
Speaking of schools football...Mayo has representation in grade this year..Claremorris vs Tubbercurry in the A final. Ballinrobe vs Athenry in the B final next Monday, Ballyhaunis in the C final Saturday....and Belmullet have won the D final already.
[/quote]

St Attractas won the Connacht junior today v jarlaths.  Play the senior this weekend, great story brewing here, has to lead to good u21 and minor soon. We need a boost

Last minor Connacht winners 1968
Last u21  Connacht title - never

Sad story that hopefully will change
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on February 28, 2017, 11:01:49 PM
On paper at least, the dubs look very strong (V Westmeath)

1. Evan Comerford (Ballymun Kickhams)
2. Eoin Murchan (Na Fianna)
3. Cillian O'Shea (Kilmacud Crokes)
4. Darren Byrne (Raheny)
5. Shane Clayton (Ballyboden St Enda's)
6. Sean McMahon (Raheny)
7. Brian Howard (Raheny)
8. Andy Foley (Clontarf)
9. Donal McIlgorm (Skerries Harps)
10. Glenn O'Reilly (Na Fianna)
11. Con O'Callaghan (Cuala)
12. Colm Basquel (Ballyboden St Enda's)
13. Chris Sallier (Thomas Davis)
14. Aaron Byrne (Na Fianna)
15. Tom Fox (Kilmacud Crokes)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 11:29:00 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 28, 2017, 10:27:39 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 24, 2017, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2017, 01:01:28 AM
[quote aucthor=GalwayBayBoy link=topic=27690.msg1671988#msg1671988 date=1487893023]
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Predictions:

Connacht: Mayo or Sligo
Ulster: Tyrone or Armagh
Leinster : Kildare or Dublin
Munster Kerry

All - Ireland: Kerry

Galway were fairly unlucky to lose to Mayo by a point in the 2014 Connacht minor championship. Were completely in control of the game in the first half. Mayo got a penalty on the stroke of half-time and then Galway's best player, Michael Daly, got a dubious red card early in the second half. I know they really felt they left that one behind them on the day.

http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/ (http://connachttribune.ie/galway-minor-footballers-agony/)

Galway have subsequently won the last 2 Connacht minor titles so that likely rematch with Mayo looks like a humdinger. Sligo I know like the look of their team as well. Have been doing well at schools level in recent years.

Schools success in Connacht has had feck all correlation with minor county level, though.

True. No Galway school has been doing much good in recent years anyway. Not even Jarlath's.

A lot of Mayo underage players come from all over the place as regards schools. We never had those super schools like Jarlath's used to be. Sligo have 2 super schools now with Attracta's and Summerhill. Most of their minors will come out of those schools. Last year Mayo had a very competitive A colleges team and don't think any of that team even made the minor panel.
Speaking of schools football...Mayo has representation in grade this year..Claremorris vs Tubbercurry in the A final. Ballinrobe vs Athenry in the B final next Monday, Ballyhaunis in the C final Saturday....and Belmullet have won the D final already.

St Attractas won the Connacht junior today v jarlaths.  Play the senior this weekend, great story brewing here, has to lead to good u21 and minor soon. We need a boost

Last minor Connacht winners 1968
Last u21  Connacht title - never

Sad story that hopefully will change
[/quote]
Man of the match today for Attactas is a Mayo minor this year...due to play vs Colmans on Saturday. Plays for Charlestown.
Attactas favourites to beat Colmans.
Ballinrobe won B title last night. Ballyhaunis lost C last Saturday.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 01, 2017, 10:06:41 AM
Quote from: ck on February 28, 2017, 11:01:49 PM
On paper at least, the dubs look very strong (V Westmeath)

1. Evan Comerford (Ballymun Kickhams)
2. Eoin Murchan (Na Fianna)
3. Cillian O'Shea (Kilmacud Crokes)
4. Darren Byrne (Raheny)
5. Shane Clayton (Ballyboden St Enda's)
6. Sean McMahon (Raheny)
7. Brian Howard (Raheny)
8. Andy Foley (Clontarf)
9. Donal McIlgorm (Skerries Harps)
10. Glenn O'Reilly (Na Fianna)
11. Con O'Callaghan (Cuala)
12. Colm Basquel (Ballyboden St Enda's)
13. Chris Sallier (Thomas Davis)
14. Aaron Byrne (Na Fianna)
15. Tom Fox (Kilmacud Crokes)

Con O'Callaghan straight in the team, would he have done many/any training sessions with the Dubs consdering Cualas run?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 07:49:20 PM
Kildare getting hammered, disappointing but not the end of the world.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 01, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 07:49:20 PM
Kildare getting hammered, disappointing but not the end of the world.
only half time Kildare have the strong wind now.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 08:17:54 PM
I suspected there was a wind involved, Hawkfield is rather open to the elements. Still to only score the 1 point in a half of football is terrible. The goals will probably be enough for Longford given the conditions.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 08:31:03 PM
2-3 to 6 now with Paddy Woodgate scoring everything, very much back in the game. Ben McCormack went off at half time for Jack Robinson.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
Level now, fair play to them. I've yet to see a Brian Murphy trained Kildare team lack heart.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
And they're gone, Longford finished strong by the looks of it but the 1st half goals won it for them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 01, 2017, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Games tomorrow.

Leinster U21FC first round
Wicklow v Louth, Baltinglass, 7.30pm

Leinster U21FC quarter-finals
Westmeath v Dublin, Lakepoint Mullingar, 7.30pm
Kildare v Longford, Hawkfield, 7.30pm
Offaly v Wexford, Gracefield, 7.30pm

For those looking for value Longford could be the bet. Kildare are missing Jimmy Hyland, Ciaran Kelly, Brian McLoughlin, Ethan O'Donoghue, Rory Feely, Tony Archibald, Paul Mescal, Alan Scully, that's a lot of underage talent plus our league star Ben McCormack is a doubt, missed the Derry game with a strain.

Longford have a good underage pedigree in recent seasons probably 3rd behind Kildare and Dublin in Leinster. Home advantage might swing it but expect it will be tight.

I take it all back. Well called. I know a well connected coach in Dublin who said Kildare would win Leinster. Is this a massive upset or are Longford decent?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 09:19:39 PM
Great win. Game of two halves with the wind.

Dubs next. No fear
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: The Insider on March 01, 2017, 09:22:44 PM
Great result for us. Revenge for the minor in 2014. The Dubs next who we also should have beaten in 2014. Could not handle O Callaghan then.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 09:23:07 PM
I don't think many in Kildare would have expected to beat Dublin in the semis had they gotten over Longford. Especially with all the players missing coupled with the fact that the 2014 minor team was well beaten by Dublin and Kerry so was a good bit off. The midfield pairing was weak in comparison to last years while Paul Mescal being missing in defence was a massive loss. He is the player I had highest hopes for from last years team as Kildare have not been in the habit of producing quality backs in recent years.

Next years u20 team should be reasonable enough especially if the likes of Jimmy Hyland return in good form.

Best of luck to Longford and hopefully Con O'Callaghan rests for the Cuala match.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2017, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: ck on March 01, 2017, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Games tomorrow.

Leinster U21FC first round
Wicklow v Louth, Baltinglass, 7.30pm

Leinster U21FC quarter-finals
Westmeath v Dublin, Lakepoint Mullingar, 7.30pm
Kildare v Longford, Hawkfield, 7.30pm
Offaly v Wexford, Gracefield, 7.30pm

For those looking for value Longford could be the bet. Kildare are missing Jimmy Hyland, Ciaran Kelly, Brian McLoughlin, Ethan O'Donoghue, Rory Feely, Tony Archibald, Paul Mescal, Alan Scully, that's a lot of underage talent plus our league star Ben McCormack is a doubt, missed the Derry game with a strain.

Longford have a good underage pedigree in recent seasons probably 3rd behind Kildare and Dublin in Leinster. Home advantage might swing it but expect it will be tight.

I take it all back. Well called. I know a well connected coach in Dublin who said Kildare would win Leinster. Is this a massive upset or are Longford decent?

Us Kildalre folks know our football ☺ McCormack wasn't right at all. Level.with 14 to go but when you expend that much energy to get back you leave yourself open to the sucker punch. Well done Longford, best of luck in the semi.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 10:47:06 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 01, 2017, 11:04:22 PM
Not surprised in the slightest. The 2014 minor team were moderate enough and needed extra time to beat Longford. The standout player on that team was clearly not right tonight and had to be taken off injured. Most of the better players from the 2015 and 2016 Leinster minor winning sides were unavailable due to injury (Jimmy Hyland), studies (Paul Mescal, Brian McLoughlin, Ciaran Kelly) or other sports (Rory Feely). Feel bad for Murph that he couldn't land another Leinster at this grade. Probably deserved one from the 2015 or 2016 finals.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 01, 2017, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?

Are you serious? Thats absolutely ridiculous. I dont see Derry u21s getting their games off due to Slaughtneil
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 01, 2017, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: ck on March 01, 2017, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?

Are you serious? Thats absolutely ridiculous. I dont see Derry u21s getting their games off due to Slaughtneil

Derry aren't Dublin.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2017, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?

Ha! If Longford agreed fair play. If they didn't...
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 01, 2017, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2017, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?

Ha! If Longford agreed fair play. If they didn't...

Can't see Longford agreeing to that. Why would they?
Dublin will piss through Leinster regardless
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: macdanger2 on March 01, 2017, 11:52:51 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?

I wouldn't be happy with it
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 02, 2017, 09:29:48 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Semi v Dublin moved back a week to suit Cuala's Con O'Callaghan

Not so sure I am happy with this.......or should fair play prevail?

It's not O'Callaghan I'd be worried about, he looked like a man last night who hadn't picked up a football in ages. Aaron Byrne on the other hand was dynamite, destroyed us in the first half, another diamond of a footballer. Boidu did a decent job on him in the second half but still oozed quality. Comerford will be a decent successor to Cluxton on the kickouts, invariably found his man.

After a decent opening we quickly lost our way. Dublin were more composed in the middle third and kept possession better. Giles was too isolated as well any time balls did make it in to him. Missing a couple of frees that would have kept us in touch didn't help but we kept competing on a horrible night for football. Dublin put a bit of gloss on it in the end.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mad tan on March 02, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
Where is the Dublin v Longford fixed for?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 02, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
Either Loman's in Mullingar or Parnell Park.

May as well have it in Parnell to give the Dubs further advantage!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 03, 2017, 09:40:01 AM
Ok - definitely in Loman's in Mullingar.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 10:26:27 AM
Weird that there's two intercounty goalkeepers call Evan Comerford.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 03, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 10:26:27 AM
Weird that there's two intercounty goalkeepers call Evan Comerford.

And that they're both lethal from kickouts. Has anyone ever seen them in the same place together?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2017, 11:08:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 10:26:27 AM
Weird that there's two intercounty goalkeepers call Evan Comerford.

My u16 goalkeeper is called Evan Comerford too, trialing with the County 15s currently.........
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 03, 2017, 11:13:52 AM
A lot of babies born in the mid-nineties were named Evan after this man.

(http://hoganstand.com/common/features/meath/evankelly/kellyb.jpg)

Thought we'd have a lot more 'Hanks' by now tbh.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
We do, but they are all playing in the Hazel Hotel in Monasterevin.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2017, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
We do, but they are all playing in the Hazel Hotel in Monasterevin.

Typical Syrians, Kildare names not good enough for them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 11:31:31 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2017, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
We do, but they are all playing in the Hazel Hotel in Monasterevin.

Typical Syrians, Kildare names not good enough for them.

Ah, I forgot :) Damn it, an open goal missed.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 03, 2017, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2017, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
We do, but they are all playing in the Hazel Hotel in Monasterevin.

Typical Syrians, Kildare names not good enough for them.

Any handy footballers, or are they all shiite?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 03, 2017, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2017, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
We do, but they are all playing in the Hazel Hotel in Monasterevin.

Typical Syrians, Kildare names not good enough for them.

Any handy footballers, or are they all shiite?

:D

Their first game was against Kill GAA, I think that might have put them off.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Galway play Leitrim on Saturday. There's a bit of expectancy with this group but we've been here before.

Winners to play Mayo 2 weeks tomorrow.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 07, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Galway play Leitrim on Saturday. There's a bit of expectancy with this group but we've been here before.

Winners to play Mayo 2 weeks tomorrow.
Connacht final in all but name...soz syferus
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 07, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 07, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Galway play Leitrim on Saturday. There's a bit of expectancy with this group but we've been here before.

Winners to play Mayo 2 weeks tomorrow.
Connacht final in all but name...soz syferus

Last one I heard that ye lost to a poor Galway side in McHale..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on March 07, 2017, 05:34:31 PM
If galway beat Leitrim where would they be playing Mayo?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 07, 2017, 05:45:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 07, 2017, 05:34:31 PM
If galway beat Leitrim where would they be playing Mayo?
Galway are due a home game against Mayo so Tuam or Salthill.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 07, 2017, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 07, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 07, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Galway play Leitrim on Saturday. There's a bit of expectancy with this group but we've been here before.

Winners to play Mayo 2 weeks tomorrow.
Connacht final in all but name...soz syferus

Last one I heard that ye lost to a poor Galway side in McHale..
I wouldn't say it was a poor Galway side in 2015.
Not our finest for sure but there were plenty of good footballers on it.
Certainly Ros did not have it all their own way in the Connacht final that year.
If Galway win in Saturday - which they should - the Mayo game will be at a Galway venue.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 07, 2017, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 07, 2017, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 07, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 07, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Galway play Leitrim on Saturday. There's a bit of expectancy with this group but we've been here before.

Winners to play Mayo 2 weeks tomorrow.
Connacht final in all but name...soz syferus

Last one I heard that ye lost to a poor Galway side in McHale..
I wouldn't say it was a poor Galway side in 2015.
Not our finest for sure but there were plenty of good footballers on it.
Certainly Ros did not have it all their own way in the Connacht final that year.
If Galway win in Saturday - which they should - the Mayo game will be at a Galway venue.

I meant the seniors last year. The 2015 Connacht U21 final was one of the best advertisements for the grade and the sport I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 08, 2017, 09:18:41 AM
It's a pity the game is on a Wednesday evening.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on March 08, 2017, 10:56:16 AM
It's a pity TG4 or someone doesn't show these games or even highlights of them later on.
I would imagine lots of people would want to see good U21 games on Wed nights.
I realise it might clash with Champions League games but maybe a deferred coverage after 10'oclock perhaps
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 08, 2017, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 07, 2017, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 07, 2017, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 07, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 07, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Galway play Leitrim on Saturday. There's a bit of expectancy with this group but we've been here before.

Winners to play Mayo 2 weeks tomorrow.
Connacht final in all but name...soz syferus

Last one I heard that ye lost to a poor Galway side in McHale..
I wouldn't say it was a poor Galway side in 2015.
Not our finest for sure but there were plenty of good footballers on it.
Certainly Ros did not have it all their own way in the Connacht final that year.
If Galway win in Saturday - which they should - the Mayo game will be at a Galway venue.

I meant the seniors last year. The 2015 Connacht U21 final was one of the best advertisements for the grade and the sport I've seen in a long time.
Agreed. Was there that day - fantastic game of football. It's a brilliant sport when played like that.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 08, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
2017 Ulster U21 Football Championship Preliminary Round: Antrim v Monaghan, Tonight @ 8pm, Queens University - The Dub

Referee: Margaret Farrelly

Not to be missed!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 08, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 08, 2017, 10:56:16 AM
It's a pity TG4 or someone doesn't show these games or even highlights of them later on.
I would imagine lots of people would want to see good U21 games on Wed nights.
I realise it might clash with Champions League games but maybe a deferred coverage after 10'oclock perhaps

They used to show highlights on Monday I think, maybe not on the earlier rounds.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 08, 2017, 02:09:02 PM
Kerry U21s have a few injuries and are missing the Dr Crokes players tonight. Clare could be a banana skin for them as Clare had a good pre season winning the Laois run McNulty cup.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on March 08, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 08, 2017, 02:09:02 PM
Kerry U21s have a few injuries and are missing the Dr Crokes players tonight. Clare could be a banana skin for them as Clare had a good pre season winning the Laois run McNulty cup.

Clare missing a good few lads with injuries. I'm afraid Kerry could win this by a cricket score
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on March 08, 2017, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 08, 2017, 10:56:16 AM
It's a pity TG4 or someone doesn't show these games or even highlights of them later on.
I would imagine lots of people would want to see good U21 games on Wed nights.
I realise it might clash with Champions League games but maybe a deferred coverage after 10'oclock perhaps

Agree its a pity games not live as they show the u21 hurling in summer
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on March 08, 2017, 03:39:39 PM
Excuse my ignorance on international women's day but does she referee many men's games?
Is she the only female referee who refs men's GAA games?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 08, 2017, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 08, 2017, 03:39:39 PM
Excuse my ignorance on international women's day but does she referee many men's games?
Is she the only female referee who refs men's GAA games?

She was certainly the first, and I think she is still the only. She officiates at quite a few, I've seen her on the line a bit. I know she has reffed senior games too, but I'm not sure how many.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 08, 2017, 08:03:47 PM
Clare holding their own against the All Ireland favorites so far. Kerry 1-8 Clare 1-5 half time.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 08, 2017, 08:24:55 PM
Antrimholding their own too, currently 0-07 to 1-03 up at 22mins.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 08, 2017, 08:37:16 PM
Antrim 0-09 Mon 1-06 HT

Kerry 1-14 Clare 2-07 13 mins to go
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 08, 2017, 08:50:23 PM
Kerry 1-17 Clare 2-8 FT
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 08, 2017, 09:10:10 PM
Tipperary 0-10 Limerick 0-10 FT
Limerick leveled it with the last kick of the game to force extra-time.
Tipp were down to 13 men.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Helix on March 08, 2017, 09:30:42 PM
Laois 2.13
Louth 1.8

Laois played with 14 men for 45 minutes. Should have won by more. Offaly next Wednesday in Carlow.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 08, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
Limerick 0-16 Tipperary 0-14 (AET)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: timmyot501 on March 08, 2017, 10:07:02 PM
Monaghan  2-14 Antrim 0-16.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 08, 2017, 11:12:43 PM
Munster Semi-Finals set for Wednesday 15 March at 7:30pm.

Waterford v Kerry in Dungarvan

Cork v Limerick in Pairc Ui Rinn

Final on 29 March
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 09, 2017, 10:37:02 AM
Were Limerick fancied for an upset last night?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: tippabu on March 09, 2017, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
Limerick 0-16 Tipperary 0-14 (AET)

Poor first half, brilliant entertainment after that. Jack Kennedy was outstanding for us last night, have to give limericks their dues though
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 09, 2017, 01:25:11 PM
Quote from: tippabu on March 09, 2017, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
Limerick 0-16 Tipperary 0-14 (AET)

Poor first half, brilliant entertainment after that. Jack Kennedy was outstanding for us last night, have to give limericks their dues though

Yeah Kennedy looks a serious player. For the Tipp seniors, the fact that the U21s are finished is surely in a boost in terms of promotion.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: PW Nally on March 09, 2017, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: tippabu on March 09, 2017, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 08, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
Limerick 0-16 Tipperary 0-14 (AET)

Poor first half, brilliant entertainment after that. Jack Kennedy was outstanding for us last night, have to give limericks their dues though
Does he hurl?!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 09, 2017, 01:36:34 PM
He does, but I think he's opted for the big ball.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 09, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Kerry odds on favs for All Ireland despite struggling over Clare last night. Interesting.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 09, 2017, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 09, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Kerry odds on favs for All Ireland despite struggling over Clare last night. Interesting.

Kerry have minor winners all over their team. Dublin or Donegal could possibly beat them in a one-off, Roscommon next best nationally, but on paper they are well worth those odds.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 09, 2017, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 09, 2017, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 09, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Kerry odds on favs for All Ireland despite struggling over Clare last night. Interesting.

Kerry have minor winners all over their team. Dublin or Donegal could possibly beat them in a one-off, Roscommon next best nationally, but on paper they are well worth those odds.

The Rossies are only 3rd favourites in their own province.

Galway 11/8
Mayo 7/4
Roscommon 4/1
Sligo 6/1
Leitrim 28/1
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 10, 2017, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 09, 2017, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 09, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Kerry odds on favs for All Ireland despite struggling over Clare last night. Interesting.

Kerry have minor winners all over their team. Dublin or Donegal could possibly beat them in a one-off, Roscommon next best nationally, but on paper they are well worth those odds.

Donegal are down five players for our trip to Healy Park next week, including midfielder Jason McGee, who's been playing very well for the seniors in the league, and Kieran Gillespie, who broke into the seniors in the Ulster games against Monaghan last year.

Let's worry about Tyrone first!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 10, 2017, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 09, 2017, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 09, 2017, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 09, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Kerry odds on favs for All Ireland despite struggling over Clare last night. Interesting.

Kerry have minor winners all over their team. Dublin or Donegal could possibly beat them in a one-off, Roscommon next best nationally, but on paper they are well worth those odds.

The Rossies are only 3rd favourites in their own province.

Galway 11/8
Mayo 7/4
Roscommon 4/1
Sligo 6/1
Leitrim 28/1
And proper order too.
Our 14 and 15 minors were pretty weak and there are injuries and unavailabilitity of some players.
We'll be pleasantly surprised to overcome the Shliigos  :-\
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dire Ear on March 10, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
Donegal 10-1,  Tyrone 12-1,  to win outright.  Armagh 25 Derry 28.  Favourites Kerry 11-10 , Dubs 7-2  PP odds
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 10, 2017, 11:44:40 AM
Dublin will be every bit as strong as Kerry this year, they weren't far off last year with an awful lot of players underage again this year. Dublin also improve their players more than anyone else between minor and u21 grades so I wouldn't read too much into the minor results.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 10, 2017, 03:42:16 PM
Kerry are far too short in the odds, if as expected they play Cork in the Munster Final they have to go to Cork. Think their record in Cork at this level isn't great and there was hardly much between these sides at minor level the last few years.

Whoever prevails from the provinces I'm expecting 2 tight semi finals.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 10, 2017, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 10, 2017, 11:44:40 AM
Dublin will be every bit as strong as Kerry this year, they weren't far off last year with an awful lot of players underage again this year. Dublin also improve their players more than anyone else between minor and u21 grades so I wouldn't read too much into the minor results.
Dublin weren't anywhere as strong at U21 level last year as they were in 2012 or 2014. Last year they had one excellent forward carrying the team. Kerry against Clare were missing the Dr Crokes players and had other lads injured if they win Munster and have a full strength team for the All Ireland series it's hard to see anyone beating them. Kerry also have arguably the best U21 manager in Ireland.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 10, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
Galway team named v Leitrim

1. Ronan O'Beolain (Micheal Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spideal)
3. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
6. Sean Andy Kelly (Leitir Mor)
7. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
10. Colin Brady (Corofin)
11. Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough - capt)
12. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 10, 2017, 05:28:56 PM
This was a very tidy Leitrim team at minor three years ago..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 10, 2017, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 10, 2017, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 10, 2017, 11:44:40 AM
Dublin will be every bit as strong as Kerry this year, they weren't far off last year with an awful lot of players underage again this year. Dublin also improve their players more than anyone else between minor and u21 grades so I wouldn't read too much into the minor results.
Dublin weren't anywhere as strong at U21 level last year as they were in 2012 or 2014. Last year they had one excellent forward carrying the team. Kerry against Clare were missing the Dr Crokes players and had other lads injured if they win Munster and have a full strength team for the All Ireland series it's hard to see anyone beating them. Kerry also have arguably the best U21 manager in Ireland.

I know Dublin weren't brilliant last year but there was pretty much nothing between them and Mayo in the semi final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mrhardyannual on March 11, 2017, 12:37:12 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 10, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
Galway team named v Leitrim

1. Ronan O'Beolain (Micheal Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spideal)
3. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
6. Sean Andy Kelly (Leitir Mor)
7. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
10. Colin Brady (Corofin)
11. Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough - capt)
12. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)
Has all football died out in North Galway. No Tuam, Milltown, Dunmore, Glenamaddy etc, etc
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 11, 2017, 01:13:35 AM
Sligo beat Donegal tonight in a challenge game. Apparently Donegal have 12 injured players. Thats our 2nd win over Donegal at this grade this year.

Im not sure if we have enough to win Connacht but we'll beat Rossies on Wed week.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2017, 01:54:11 AM
Quote from: ck on March 11, 2017, 01:13:35 AM
Sligo beat Donegal tonight in a challenge game. Apparently Donegal have 12 injured players. Thats our 2nd win over Donegal at this grade this year.

Im not sure if we have enough to win Connacht but we'll beat Rossies on Wed week.

Ye will in yer dreams.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 11, 2017, 04:04:18 AM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on March 11, 2017, 12:37:12 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 10, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
Galway team named v Leitrim

1. Ronan O'Beolain (Micheal Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spideal)
3. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
6. Sean Andy Kelly (Leitir Mor)
7. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
10. Colin Brady (Corofin)
11. Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough - capt)
12. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)
Has all football died out in North Galway. No Tuam, Milltown, Dunmore, Glenamaddy etc, etc

A lot of the underage teams in recent years have been dominated by west Galway clubs. Defintely been a big swing away from the tradtional heartland although that team is almost 50/50 between west and north.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dire Ear on March 11, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
Donegal now 12 and Tyrone 14-1,  from a few days ago,  both out 2
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 11, 2017, 03:24:55 PM
Galway strolling. 4 goals scored 19 points ahead and not half time yet.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: MayoBuck on March 11, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 11, 2017, 03:24:55 PM
Galway strolling. 4 goals scored 19 points ahead and not half time yet.

Comeback is on. Leitrim have cut the gap to 8
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 11, 2017, 04:23:48 PM
Galway hang on to win by 4.  Must have been some strong breezes there.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 11, 2017, 04:24:23 PM
4-8 to 0-2 points up at half time & very nearly threw it away.
A dreadful second half performance.
Mayo won't be losing too much sleep over playing us next.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2017, 05:37:37 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 11, 2017, 04:24:23 PM
4-8 to 0-2 points up at half time & very nearly threw it away.
A dreadful second half performance.
Mayo won't be losing too much sleep over playing us next.

Leitrim were good coming up the last few years. The result was relatively predictable despite their poor start. Doesn't really tell you anything about how the Mayo-Galway match will go.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 11, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
Sounded like a bizarre game. Galway couldn't stop scoring in the first half. Took 26 minutes to get their first score in the second half. Best you could say is they might have been better off getting a boot up the arse today than if they had won the game by 25 points which looked possible at one point.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 11, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 11, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
Sounded like a bizarre game. Galway couldn't stop scoring in the first half. Took 26 minutes to get their first score in the second half. Best you could say is they might have been better off getting a boot up the arse today than if they had won the game by 25 points which looked possible at one point.

Completely bizarre. Ball barely passed midfield in the first half but the second half was like a different game. Kieran Molloy's sending off led to Cillian McDaid going to wing back which was a daft notion to begin with, nothing went right for McDaid today, any ball he touched seemed to go astray or hit off him and back to a Leitrim man. Molloys tackle for his second yellow was reckless, even more so when you consider he was already on a yellow, he should have been watching himself. Having said that, don't know what his first one was for? The team lost all shape in the second half and that wasn't helped by the amount of substitutions made. 2 points in the second half with the amount of forward talent on show was a seriously poor return. They have a lot of work to do.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht
The kiss of death from CK  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht
The kiss of death from CK  ;D

I hope so! Genuinely cant see Mayo beaten though
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 12, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht

If Galway are excellent but Mayo are the pick in Connacht by a long way that must mean Mayo are some side.

There was very little between these sides at minor level in 2014. Mayo only took the lead for the first time in the game in the last minute of the match. And that was against 14 men for most of the second half. Should be a cracker though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 12, 2017, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 12, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht

If Galway are excellent but Mayo are the pick in Connacht by a long way that must mean Mayo are some side.

There was very little between these sides at minor level in 2014. Mayo only took the lead for the first time in the game in the last minute of the match. And that was against 14 men for most of the second half. Should be a cracker though.

Semantics. Galway were very good at minor alright and remain strong. Mayo ahead of them though.

Anyone know the front runners in Ulster? Im on Bet365 here!! Cavan hammered Sligo a few weeks ago so should beat Fermanagh, but i coukd call any of the other games. All look 50/50
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 12, 2017, 11:44:55 PM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 12, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht

If Galway are excellent but Mayo are the pick in Connacht by a long way that must mean Mayo are some side.

There was very little between these sides at minor level in 2014. Mayo only took the lead for the first time in the game in the last minute of the match. And that was against 14 men for most of the second half. Should be a cracker though.

Semantics. Galway were very good at minor alright and remain strong. Mayo ahead of them though.

Anyone know the front runners in Ulster? Im on Bet365 here!! Cavan hammered Sligo a few weeks ago so should beat Fermanagh, but i coukd call any of the other games. All look 50/50

Do you base predictions on challenges and pre season competitions instead of minor championship results and the pick of quality that each panel may have?

Mayo U21s are only ahead of Galway in one way and thats a very important part, management.

Front runners in Ulster is Tyrone,Donegal. Don't ever place money on a side based on challenge results would be my tip.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 13, 2017, 12:14:09 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 12, 2017, 11:44:55 PM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 12, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: ck on March 12, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Galway are an excellent side. The pick in Connacht is Mayo by a long way. They cruised to win the north west cup and bear Dublin and Cork in recent weeks. Theyll win connacht

If Galway are excellent but Mayo are the pick in Connacht by a long way that must mean Mayo are some side.

There was very little between these sides at minor level in 2014. Mayo only took the lead for the first time in the game in the last minute of the match. And that was against 14 men for most of the second half. Should be a cracker though.

Semantics. Galway were very good at minor alright and remain strong. Mayo ahead of them though.

Anyone know the front runners in Ulster? Im on Bet365 here!! Cavan hammered Sligo a few weeks ago so should beat Fermanagh, but i coukd call any of the other games. All look 50/50

Do you base predictions on challenges and pre season competitions instead of minor championship results and the pick of quality that each panel may have?

Mayo U21s are only ahead of Galway in one way and thats a very important part, management.

I'd definitely agree with that. I've never been a fan of Gerry Fahy personally and many good talented underage sides have been sunk by poor management.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mouview on March 13, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 13, 2017, 12:14:09 AM

I'd definitely agree with that. I've never been a fan of Gerry Fahy personally and many good talented underage sides have been sunk by poor management.

+1

Nothing against the man, but Fahy has long had the habit of nearly managing teams out of winning positions. AI minor semi-final v Cork a few years back a good case in point when Galway led by 10 at one stage only to lose late on.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 13, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 13, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 13, 2017, 12:14:09 AM

I'd definitely agree with that. I've never been a fan of Gerry Fahy personally and many good talented underage sides have been sunk by poor management.

+1

Nothing against the man, but Fahy has long had the habit of nearly managing teams out of winning positions. AI minor semi-final v Cork a few years back a good case in point when Galway led by 10 at one stage only to lose late on.

You can hardly blame the manager for losing a ten point lead and not credit him with getting it in the first place. If a team blows a ten point lead I'd be looking at the Maroon buckeens on the field and not the ones on the line.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mouview on March 13, 2017, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 13, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 13, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 13, 2017, 12:14:09 AM

I'd definitely agree with that. I've never been a fan of Gerry Fahy personally and many good talented underage sides have been sunk by poor management.

+1

Nothing against the man, but Fahy has long had the habit of nearly managing teams out of winning positions. AI minor semi-final v Cork a few years back a good case in point when Galway led by 10 at one stage only to lose late on.

You can hardly blame the manager for losing a ten point lead and not credit him with getting it in the first palace. If a team blows a ten point lead I'd be looking at the Maroon buckeens on the field and not the ones on the line.

No, but leading by 10 in the closing stages of a match shouldn't be overturned. The game was too open at that stage; Fahy should have made a couple of tactical changes to close it down. Bad game management by him.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 13, 2017, 02:26:45 PM
Who was the Galway U21 manager a few years ago when as defending All Ireland champions lost to Leitrim?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 13, 2017, 02:35:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 13, 2017, 02:26:45 PM
Who was the Galway U21 manager a few years ago when as defending All Ireland champions lost to Leitrim?
Alan Flynn
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2017, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 13, 2017, 02:35:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 13, 2017, 02:26:45 PM
Who was the Galway U21 manager a few years ago when as defending All Ireland champions lost to Leitrim?
Alan Flynn
And underage winning team never get to defend their title.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 13, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 13, 2017, 02:26:45 PM
Who was the Galway U21 manager a few years ago when as defending All Ireland champions lost to Leitrim?

The man who won them the All-Ireland.. tut tut.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 13, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
Who is Gerry Fahy? I know hes managing Galway but who has he managed previously?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 13, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Ulster Cship starts this week. Predictions.

Monaghan v Derry / Monaghan have a game played
Tyrone v Donegal / 50/50 Draw Donegal have 9 starters inj
Cavan v Fermanagh / Cavan dark horses in Ulster
Armagh v Down / Armagh easy. Down are not good
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: LeoMc on March 14, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 13, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Ulster Cship starts this week. Predictions.

Monaghan v Derry / Monaghan have a game played
Tyrone v Donegal / 50/50 Draw Donegal have 9 starters inj
Cavan v Fermanagh / Cavan dark horses in Ulster
Armagh v Down / Armagh easy. Down are not good
9 men missing and away from home and you still don't think Tyrone will win?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 14, 2017, 08:50:23 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 14, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 13, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Ulster Cship starts this week. Predictions.

Monaghan v Derry / Monaghan have a game played
Tyrone v Donegal / 50/50 Draw Donegal have 9 starters inj
Cavan v Fermanagh / Cavan dark horses in Ulster
Armagh v Down / Armagh easy. Down are not good
9 men missing and away from home and you still don't think Tyrone will win?

Cute hoorism Tyrone style
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 14, 2017, 09:11:49 PM
Would all those Donegal injuries suggest it wasn't wise to enter U21 team instead of a senior team into the McKenna cup?

Galway was my tip to win Connacht but I'm having my doubts now especially about their manager. Mayo v Kerry Tyrone v Dublin looks odds on to be the senior semi finals in August what odds on the same semi finals at U21 level in April.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: rodney trotter on March 14, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
More like Gallagher shouldn't have played a load of them in the League.

That was only half strength  doengal u21 team in Mckenna Cup. They had players playing with Sligo it. DCU, Dit, Ucd in O Byrne and Fbd.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 14, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 14, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
More like Gallagher shouldn't have played a load of them in the League.

That was only half strength  doengal u21 team in Mckenna Cup. They had players playing with Sligo it. DCU, Dit, Ucd in O Byrne and Fbd.
It all adds up I suppose and little common sense used between the managers with U21 players.
Title: Under 21
Post by: FermGael on March 14, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Fermanagh under 21 team includes two players who play their club football for Trillick in Tyrone and Clones in Momaghan. Now to get the two Brennan's and Donnelly's signed up ...
Title: Re: Under 21
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 14, 2017, 11:34:27 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 14, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Fermanagh under 21 team includes two players who play their club football for Trillick in Tyrone and Clones in Momaghan. Now to get the two Brennan's and Donnelly's signed up ...

How did that happen?
Title: Re: Under 21
Post by: LeoMc on March 15, 2017, 09:11:16 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 14, 2017, 11:34:27 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 14, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Fermanagh under 21 team includes two players who play their club football for Trillick in Tyrone and Clones in Momaghan. Now to get the two Brennan's and Donnelly's signed up ...

How did that happen?
Trillick poaching from Coa?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: FermGael on March 15, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 15, 2017, 09:11:16 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 14, 2017, 11:34:27 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 14, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Fermanagh under 21 team includes two players who play their club football for Trillick in Tyrone and Clones in Momaghan. Now to get the two Brennan's and Donnelly's signed up ...

How did that happen?
Trillick poaching from Coa?

They still have not landed the big fish in Coa but they are still trying I believe...

Apparently the young lad lives in Ballinamallard (known Gaa stronghold).
He has a Fermanagh address but his nearest club is Trillick.
Not to sure about the lad from Clones.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: FarneyMan on March 15, 2017, 02:18:43 PM
The clones lad apparently lives within a couple of miles of clones and initially joined them, i believe his address is in fermanagh though.
Apparently he was called up to numerous underage fermanagh squads on the provision that he change to a fermanagh club...he kept refusing, fermangh took it to ulster council and i think the lad was even threatened with a ban. 
However i think the ulster council relented when evidence was presented to them about the can of worms they would bring upon themselves regarding players all over the province living in border areas that are representing the club closest to them...
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: armaghniac on March 15, 2017, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: FarneyMan on March 15, 2017, 02:18:43 PM
The clones lad apparently lives within a couple of miles of clones and initially joined them, i believe his address is in fermanagh though.
Apparently he was called up to numerous underage fermanagh squads on the provision that he change to a fermanagh club...he kept refusing, fermangh took it to ulster council and i think the lad was even threatened with a ban. 
However i think the ulster council relented when evidence was presented to them about the can of worms they would bring upon themselves regarding players all over the province living in border areas that are representing the club closest to them...

As Clones parish is in both Monaghan and Fermanagh, is there a Fermanagh club formally representing the Fermanagh bit?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: FarneyMan on March 15, 2017, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 15, 2017, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: FarneyMan on March 15, 2017, 02:18:43 PM
The clones lad apparently lives within a couple of miles of clones and initially joined them, i believe his address is in fermanagh though.
Apparently he was called up to numerous underage fermanagh squads on the provision that he change to a fermanagh club...he kept refusing, fermangh took it to ulster council and i think the lad was even threatened with a ban. 
However i think the ulster council relented when evidence was presented to them about the can of worms they would bring upon themselves regarding players all over the province living in border areas that are representing the club closest to them...



As Clones parish is in both Monaghan and Fermanagh, is there a Fermanagh club formally representing the Fermanagh bit?

Aghadrumsee id say...
Roslea and Newtownbutler also very close..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 15, 2017, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: FarneyMan on March 15, 2017, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 15, 2017, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: FarneyMan on March 15, 2017, 02:18:43 PM
The clones lad apparently lives within a couple of miles of clones and initially joined them, i believe his address is in fermanagh though.
Apparently he was called up to numerous underage fermanagh squads on the provision that he change to a fermanagh club...he kept refusing, fermangh took it to ulster council and i think the lad was even threatened with a ban. 
However i think the ulster council relented when evidence was presented to them about the can of worms they would bring upon themselves regarding players all over the province living in border areas that are representing the club closest to them...



As Clones parish is in both Monaghan and Fermanagh, is there a Fermanagh club formally representing the Fermanagh bit?

Aghadrumsee id say...
Roslea and Newtownbutler also very close..

Yes, it's Aghadrumsee. St. Macartan's church there is part of Clones parish.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: cluaineois on March 15, 2017, 06:42:51 PM
The majority of Clones parish is in Fermanagh. There is part of Clones parish that four different clubs draw from Clones, Aghadrumsee, Currin and Newtownbutler . An odd dispute arises from time to time over different players but it works both ways, a few years ago a lad that played for Aghadrumsee but came from an area that Currin in Monaghan would claim ended up on the Fermanagh minor team.
In reply to an earlier question there are now 29 clubs in Monaghan ever since the Ferghal o'Hanlons disbanded. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on March 15, 2017, 07:52:56 PM
Is the Tyrone v Donegal on Teamtalkmag.com?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rois on March 15, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Yes it is.

Did you actually go to the bother of going on the internet to post that question on here and not bother going onto their website to check?  If this wasn't an anonymous forum, I'd grass you up to Damian Harvey and get him to call you out on air  :P

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 15, 2017, 08:28:41 PM
Limerick 0-10 Cork 1-8 41 mins

Limerick missed a penalty
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
Tyrone 0-04 Donegal 0-05. Donegal well on top and have had (I think) 10 wides in first half. Tyrone been much more efficient in front of posts but need a significantly better second half.

On another note, Donegal made 7 changes to their named team prior to throw in. What sort of shite is that?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 15, 2017, 08:55:37 PM
Munster Semi-Finals Results:

Cork 2-10 Limerick 0-10

Kerry 1-18 Waterford 0-7

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on March 15, 2017, 09:08:11 PM
Monaghan 0-10  and Derry 1-7  level (obviously) in Inniskeen 
Monaghan missed penalty but doing well according to the neutrals on Northern Monaghan Sound
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on March 15, 2017, 09:10:05 PM
Cavan 1-17  Fermanagh 0-3

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 15, 2017, 09:18:10 PM
Excellent win for Offaly against Laois below in Carlow. Had to hold off a very late Laois rally but won by a point 2-9 to 2-8. First Leinster Final since 2007 I think.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 09:27:50 PM
Tyrone and Donegal finish level on 11 points. Tyrone had a chance to win it but went for goal when a tap over ppint was enough!!!!

Extra to be played!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: oakleaflad on March 15, 2017, 09:31:04 PM
Derry beat Monaghan 3-10 to 1-11
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 15, 2017, 09:34:27 PM
Armagh far from convincing with two late goals. Big improved need to progress further. Cavan hammered Fermanagh and Derry knocked out the defending Ulster champions Monaghan
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 15, 2017, 09:41:54 PM
Ulster U21FC Result
Cavan 2-19 Fermanagh 0-4
Monaghan 1-11 Derry 3-10
Armagh 2-13 Down 0-12

Tyrone and Donegal in extra-time.

Donegal kicked 15 wides to Tyrone's three wides in total in normal time!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 15, 2017, 09:43:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 28, 2017, 12:00:22 AM
Challenge match result from last week.
Cavan 3-18 Sligo 1-9

Make of that what you will.

Looks like Cavan might be the team to beat, especially after hammering Fermanagh tonight.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 15, 2017, 09:44:29 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
Tyrone 0-04 Donegal 0-05. Donegal well on top and have had (I think) 10 wides in first half. Tyrone been much more efficient in front of posts but need a significantly better second half.

On another note, Donegal made 7 changes to their named team prior to throw in. What sort of shite is that?

Wonder if you could claim for a refund back on the programme based on that?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2017, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 15, 2017, 09:43:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 28, 2017, 12:00:22 AM
Challenge match result from last week.
Cavan 3-18 Sligo 1-9

Make of that what you will.

Looks like Cavan might be the team to beat, especially after hammering Fermanagh tonight.

Whoever wins between Donegal and Tyrone will be well hardened and hot favourites to win it out
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 15, 2017, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 15, 2017, 09:44:29 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
Tyrone 0-04 Donegal 0-05. Donegal well on top and have had (I think) 10 wides in first half. Tyrone been much more efficient in front of posts but need a significantly better second half.

On another note, Donegal made 7 changes to their named team prior to throw in. What sort of shite is that?

Wonder if you could claim for a refund back on the programme based on that?
That reminds me of one time I was roped into looking after the local Hurling lads as they played football. It's a bit more serious now, but back then football was only played if it didn't interfere with hurling, drinking, or maybe even a good lie in. Anyway we were in a county quarter final, but there was a local wedding the day before. As I fumed out on the pitch putting out cones, the announcer in Sean Treacy Park in Tipp Town announced to the assembled 'crowd'. " Arravale Rovers line out as selected. There are 13 changes to the Newport team. "
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 15, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Tyrone 13 Donegal 13 HT in ET.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 15, 2017, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
Tyrone 0-04 Donegal 0-05. Donegal well on top and have had (I think) 10 wides in first half. Tyrone been much more efficient in front of posts but need a significantly better second half.

On another note, Donegal made 7 changes to their named team prior to throw in. What sort of shite is that?

I saw someone mentioned a couple of pages back that Donegal were missing nine starters through injury. Did the program show them all replaced and they miraculously recovered to start, or did the program show them starting and they were, actually, injured?

Also, I saw some journo complaining on Twitter during the week that he contacted the team management for a starting lineup and was told No.

Getting a bit ridiculous really
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 15, 2017, 10:06:01 PM
Replay to be played, Donegal Tyrone 14 each.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 15, 2017, 10:09:38 PM
Replay probably falls into the "a right nuisance" for the Donegal seniors.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Feck!! We had chances to win that. Fergal Meenagh will have nightmares about that last effort in normal time. Donegal surely can't be as bad in front of the posts next week, we had our chance tonight.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Watcher on March 15, 2017, 10:12:39 PM
Advantage Donegal with home advantage now
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on March 15, 2017, 10:14:46 PM
Sounds like the Tyrone goal phobia has gone viral.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 15, 2017, 10:14:46 PM
Sounds like the Tyrone goal phobia has gone viral.

It appears the Monaghan being defeated virus has spread to the u21s, too. ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 16, 2017, 12:23:02 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 15, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
Tyrone 0-04 Donegal 0-05. Donegal well on top and have had (I think) 10 wides in first half. Tyrone been much more efficient in front of posts but need a significantly better second half.

On another note, Donegal made 7 changes to their named team prior to throw in. What sort of shite is that?

So were the injured lads named in the team and didn't play?

Or did it turn out they were not injured or made late recoveries and so did line out?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: reddgnhand on March 16, 2017, 07:21:05 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Yes fair play to the ref for letting play continue.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gaffer on March 16, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.


  Correct.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: lenny on March 16, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Have to say that's disgusting behaviour. I have said before the ref should have the power to punish cynical play by awarding a 20m free in front of the goals and for cynical play preventing a goal he should award a penalty. The donegal sideline would not have behaved in this manner if they thought it would be punished in the form of a simple free kick in front of goals. The way to punish cynicism is on the scoreboard.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thewobbler on March 16, 2017, 07:35:48 AM
Quote from: lenny on March 16, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Have to say that's disgusting behaviour. I have said before the ref should have the power to punish cynical play by awarding a 20m free in front of the goals and for cynical play preventing a goal he should award a penalty. The donegal sideline would not have behaved in this manner if they thought it would be punished in the form of a simple free kick in front of goals. The way to punish cynicism is on the scoreboard.

There's currently dozens of jumped up managers in club and county teams across the country scratching their chins and wondering when best to use this "tactic".


Donegal Management team should be banned from entering the ground for the replay.

Needs knocked on its head.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 16, 2017, 08:10:37 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

One they may have learned from the Tyrone senior management. First time I saw such behaviour was last year in Celtic Park.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: vallankumous on March 16, 2017, 08:31:02 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 16, 2017, 08:10:37 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

One they may have learned from the Tyrone senior management. First time I saw such behaviour was last year in Celtic Park.

I seen it elsewhere the day before.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on March 16, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
What sort of a match was it lads. I was just following the scores on Twitter.
I mean was it very defensive and tense as there never seemed more than a point in it at any time.

Was it cynical and cagey or just very competitive?

There seems to be huge tension between the counties at the moment since McGuinness changed the mindset of the Donegal people.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: lenny on March 16, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Have to say that's disgusting behaviour. I have said before the ref should have the power to punish cynical play by awarding a 20m free in front of the goals and for cynical play preventing a goal he should award a penalty. The donegal sideline would not have behaved in this manner if they thought it would be punished in the form of a simple free kick in front of goals. The way to punish cynicism is on the scoreboard.

Is it any worse than the craic Tyrone U21s and minors do be at? I remember in the 2013 minor AISF when when we had a kickout late on the Tyrone buckeen came up and kicked away the goalie's kickout just to delay the game ala Donaghy.

Those in glass houses..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: reddgnhand on March 16, 2017, 11:04:11 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 16, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
What sort of a match was it lads. I was just following the scores on Twitter.
I mean was it very defensive and tense as there never seemed more than a point in it at any time.

Was it cynical and cagey or just very competitive?

There seems to be huge tension between the counties at the moment since McGuinness changed the mindset of the Donegal people.

Was a typical Tyrone v Donegal game. If you got a score you earned it. Donegal missed a lot and had a lot of possession at the start. Tyrone seemed to get better as the game progressed as well as a good few changes at half time. Some excellent displays on show. The Donegal no.s 5,4 & 8 as well as Tyrones 11,12 ,24 & especially 23 when he came on really stood out.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: LeoMc on March 16, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 14, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 13, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Ulster Cship starts this week. Predictions.

Monaghan v Derry / Monaghan have a game played
Tyrone v Donegal / 50/50 Draw Donegal have 9 starters inj
Cavan v Fermanagh / Cavan dark horses in Ulster
Armagh v Down / Armagh easy. Down are not good
9 men missing and away from home and you still don't think Tyrone will win?

And now having seen the u-21's in action I can see why you would be reluctant to back them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: reddgnhand on March 16, 2017, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: lenny on March 16, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Have to say that's disgusting behaviour. I have said before the ref should have the power to punish cynical play by awarding a 20m free in front of the goals and for cynical play preventing a goal he should award a penalty. The donegal sideline would not have behaved in this manner if they thought it would be punished in the form of a simple free kick in front of goals. The way to punish cynicism is on the scoreboard.

Is it any worse than the craic Tyrone U21s and minors do be at? I remember in the 2013 minor AISF when when we had a kickout late on the Tyrone buckeen came up and kicked away the goalie's kickout just to delay the game ala Donaghy.

Those in glass houses..

Take a day off would ye?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 12:04:03 PM
Quote from: reddgnhand on March 16, 2017, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: lenny on March 16, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Have to say that's disgusting behaviour. I have said before the ref should have the power to punish cynical play by awarding a 20m free in front of the goals and for cynical play preventing a goal he should award a penalty. The donegal sideline would not have behaved in this manner if they thought it would be punished in the form of a simple free kick in front of goals. The way to punish cynicism is on the scoreboard.

Is it any worse than the craic Tyrone U21s and minors do be at? I remember in the 2013 minor AISF when when we had a kickout late on the Tyrone buckeen came up and kicked away the goalie's kickout just to delay the game ala Donaghy.

Those in glass houses..

Take a day off would ye?

The truth is too diffcult to face so the ad hominem attacks fly.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 16, 2017, 12:09:24 PM
You have to laugh at Tyrone people complaining about cynical Donegal tactics when the whole country knows Tyrone are the kings of cynicism!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: tiempo on March 16, 2017, 12:13:38 PM
Quote from: reddgnhand on March 16, 2017, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: lenny on March 16, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Have to say that's disgusting behaviour. I have said before the ref should have the power to punish cynical play by awarding a 20m free in front of the goals and for cynical play preventing a goal he should award a penalty. The donegal sideline would not have behaved in this manner if they thought it would be punished in the form of a simple free kick in front of goals. The way to punish cynicism is on the scoreboard.

Is it any worse than the craic Tyrone U21s and minors do be at? I remember in the 2013 minor AISF when when we had a kickout late on the Tyrone buckeen came up and kicked away the goalie's kickout just to delay the game ala Donaghy.

Those in glass houses..

Take a day off would ye?

Awful voyeur streak about the shires of Roscommon.

Nice bus though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: scout on March 16, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
Knew looking at the team that started, wouldnt be too long for a few boys to be found out and get the hook. No idea why it takes to the first competitive game for this to be the case.

McLernon, McNabb both should be starting from what i can see. Podge McAnenly?? another that has more to offer. Thought midfield was quite poor. and Lee Brennan really was poor, bar few frees. No surprise why he's barely featured for tyrone, despite being in the squad for nearly 4 years. DD Mulgrew looked twice the player imo.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2017, 01:01:00 PM
Suffering Syferus and his usual verbal syphilis. Still, where would we be without his comical contributions :) ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2017, 01:01:00 PM
Suffering Syferus and his usual verbal syphilis. Still, where would we be without his comical contributions :) ;)

Ad hominem nonsense.

If you're disagreeing and saying the ladeen didn't kick the ball away you're a liar, if you're not you're admitting vilifying other teams for the doing the same thing is a little hypocritical.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2017, 01:01:00 PM
Suffering Syferus and his usual verbal syphilis. Still, where would we be without his comical contributions :) ;)

As hominem nonsense. If you're disagreeing the ladeen didn't kick the ball away you're a liar, if you're not you're admitting about other teams doing the same thing is a little nonsensical.

Your apples and oranges nonsensical contribution in comparing the actions of a player on the park and a management team on the sidelines is par for your crazy course.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2017, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on March 16, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.


  Correct.

I wasnt at the last Tyrone v Cavan match in the league but I was told that Cavans kick outs were excellent in 1st half and poor in the 2nd and that one reason for that was whenever Cavan had a kick out 2 balls were thrown onto the field by Tyrone to slow the kicks down. Anyone see that? Maybe its a new tactic, pretty cynical stuff and ref needs to deal with it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2017, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2017, 01:01:00 PM
Suffering Syferus and his usual verbal syphilis. Still, where would we be without his comical contributions :) ;)

As hominem nonsense. If you're disagreeing the ladeen didn't kick the ball away you're a liar, if you're not you're admitting about other teams doing the same thing is a little nonsensical.

Your apples and oranges nonsensical contribution in comparing the actions of a player on the park and a management team on the sidelines is par for your crazy course.
This is one way to handle Devlin, Tyrone's mad bulldog on the sidelines  ;D

(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF459/1038839.jpg)



Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 16, 2017, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 16, 2017, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on March 16, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.


  Correct.

I wasnt at the last Tyrone v Cavan match in the league but I was told that Cavans kick outs were excellent in 1st half and poor in the 2nd and that one reason for that was whenever Cavan had a kick out 2 balls were thrown onto the field by Tyrone to slow the kicks down. Anyone see that? Maybe its a new tactic, pretty cynical stuff and ref needs to deal with it.

Somebody clearly forgot their glasses that day as this didn't occur once. First question is why would Tyrone sidelinw being throwing a ball on for a restart when keepers have a supply of balls behind the net?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mrdeeds on March 16, 2017, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2017, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 16, 2017, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on March 16, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.


  Correct.

I wasnt at the last Tyrone v Cavan match in the league but I was told that Cavans kick outs were excellent in 1st half and poor in the 2nd and that one reason for that was whenever Cavan had a kick out 2 balls were thrown onto the field by Tyrone to slow the kicks down. Anyone see that? Maybe its a new tactic, pretty cynical stuff and ref needs to deal with it.

Somebody clearly forgot their glasses that day as this didn't occur once. First question is why would Tyrone sidelinw being throwing a ball on for a restart when keepers have a supply of balls behind the net?

It did happen but must have being someone from crowd and happened in both halves at same goals. Affected Galligan a good few times.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: greatpoint on March 16, 2017, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Sorry to burst the Throne ciorcaljerk but this isn't accurate.

Tyrone were going forward and there was a ball kicked in to the goalkeeper for the quick kickout.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 04:37:52 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on March 16, 2017, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Sorry to burst the Throne ciorcaljerk but this isn't accurate.

Tyrone were going forward and there was a ball kicked in to the goalkeeper for the quick kickout.

Oh dear.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: The Bearded One on March 16, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on March 16, 2017, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Watched the game on Periscope so don't take this as gospel. However in thr last Tyrone attack of ET did I see right? Tyrone attacking and the Donegal sideline boot 2 or 3 balls onto the field to disrupt the attack?
No wonder the management team are despised in their own County.

Sorry to burst the Throne ciorcaljerk but this isn't accurate.

Tyrone were going forward and there was a ball kicked in to the goalkeeper for the quick kickout.

Horseshit. Both balls were kicked into play, the keeper had two balls at the post.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 16, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
As someone who was actually at the game maybe a few facts would be useful instead of the exaggeration and speculation included in previous posts.

Firstly, the game was played in great spirit and in a very sporting manner. There were two black cards. Both Tyrone.
The sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout which was dealt with quickly by the officials. I would never condone these types of antics. On the Donegal side there was definitely something going on here. Balls were coming in from behind the goals as keeper was taking his kickout. From where I was it looked like kids but hard to tell. What I can state was the final Tyrone attack was met by two mystery balls rolled on by their water man around the 20m line. It was ignored by the ref and didn't impact on play however this is poor and unsporting behaviour. Yes Tyrone also kicked a ball down into an attack to their keeper for quick kickout at one stage but it looked very innocent.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
QuoteThe sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout

You're talking about thee Brian Dooher? the player for the ages? the once masterly gaa player Dooher, now reduced to being told to run in front of the opposition kick outs?
That's how once in a millennium legends are treated in Tyrone?  How the mighty are humiliated by being ordered to enact such a cheap and obvious trick. 

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
QuoteThe sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout

You're talking about thee Brian Dooher? the player for the ages? the once masterly gaa player Dooher, now reduced to being told to run in front of the opposition kick outs?
That's how once in a millennium legends are treated in Tyrone?  How the mighty are humiliated by being ordered to enact such a cheap and obvious trick.

A county of cynics has no room for sentimentalism.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: reddgnhand on March 16, 2017, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
QuoteThe sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout

You're talking about thee Brian Dooher? the player for the ages? the once masterly gaa player Dooher, now reduced to being told to run in front of the opposition kick outs?
That's how once in a millennium legends are treated in Tyrone?  How the mighty are humiliated by being ordered to enact such a cheap and obvious trick.

I thought Monaghan's dick had retired.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2017, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 16, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
As someone who was actually at the game maybe a few facts would be useful instead of the exaggeration and speculation included in previous posts.

Firstly, the game was played in great spirit and in a very sporting manner. There were two black cards. Both Tyrone.
The sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout which was dealt with quickly by the officials. I would never condone these types of antics. On the Donegal side there was definitely something going on here. Balls were coming in from behind the goals as keeper was taking his kickout. From where I was it looked like kids but hard to tell. What I can state was the final Tyrone attack was met by two mystery balls rolled on by their water man around the 20m line. It was ignored by the ref and didn't impact on play however this is poor and unsporting behaviour. Yes Tyrone also kicked a ball down into an attack to their keeper for quick kickout at one stage but it looked very innocent.

Jesus Christ they're hiring kids now to do their underhand stuff.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 16, 2017, 10:49:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 16, 2017, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 16, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
As someone who was actually at the game maybe a few facts would be useful instead of the exaggeration and speculation included in previous posts.

Firstly, the game was played in great spirit and in a very sporting manner. There were two black cards. Both Tyrone.
The sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout which was dealt with quickly by the officials. I would never condone these types of antics. On the Donegal side there was definitely something going on here. Balls were coming in from behind the goals as keeper was taking his kickout. From where I was it looked like kids but hard to tell. What I can state was the final Tyrone attack was met by two mystery balls rolled on by their water man around the 20m line. It was ignored by the ref and didn't impact on play however this is poor and unsporting behaviour. Yes Tyrone also kicked a ball down into an attack to their keeper for quick kickout at one stage but it looked very innocent.

Jesus Christ they're hiring kids now to do their underhand stuff.

Best to start 'em young! ;) ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2017, 11:35:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
QuoteThe sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout

You're talking about thee Brian Dooher? the player for the ages? the once masterly gaa player Dooher, now reduced to being told to run in front of the opposition kick outs?
That's how once in a millennium legends are treated in Tyrone?  How the mighty are humiliated by being ordered to enact such a cheap and obvious trick.

A county of cynics has no room for sentimentalism.
I still can't quite get the picture of that insult to one of the greatest captains ever to grace the modern game. It's just beyond the pale.The great, the legendary Brian Dooher, now reduced to the ignominy of being ordered to run out in front of the kick out as part of a tactic in order to gain a cynical advantage.


Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: skeog on March 17, 2017, 09:16:53 AM
Brian Dooher is a fine motivator and nobody tells a man of his professional ability what to do.Over hyped nonsense game was played in a competitive but fair manner.Looking forward to the replay.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 17, 2017, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 17, 2017, 10:45:10 AM
The Armagh captain is only after getting released from Jail after last night. Young rafferty is in a serious hanlin'.

What happened the lad?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 18, 2017, 01:29:56 PM
Great to see Brian Dooher still has the energy to cover every blade of grass on the field.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 21, 2017, 09:20:29 PM
Great to see tg4 will be showing all 4 provincial finals online for everyone in Ireland those of us who are overseas, at least one of the broadcasters are listening to his audience.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Any news on the sligo or roscommon teams for tomorrow nights game.  I'm assuming Roscommon are heavy favorites- but you never know.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gaffer on March 22, 2017, 12:01:18 AM
TeamtalkMag not allowed to do radio commentary of the Tyrone/Donegal replay tomorrow night. 😡😡
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Any news on the sligo or roscommon teams for tomorrow nights game.  I'm assuming Roscommon are heavy favorites- but you never know.
No word that I heard anyway. Ros missing a few better players through long term injuries. Also some lads can't commit and lack of funds means Sligo at 7/4 are v good odds for those of ye who are into betting.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Any news on the sligo or roscommon teams for tomorrow nights game.  I'm assuming Roscommon are heavy favorites- but you never know.
No word that I heard anyway. Ros missing a few better players through long term injuries. Also some lads can't commit and lack of funds means Sligo at 7/4 are v good odds for those of ye who are into betting.

You're a bad bastàrd to be trying to get people to waste money on a losing proposition.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 22, 2017, 01:58:52 AM
Quote from: Syferus on December 22, 2016, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 22, 2016, 07:12:27 PM
Two of Roscommons best minors of 2014 was Luke Carty and Noel Gately. Carty has been lost to rugby and Gately injured his ACL twice.

Gately should be fit for the Hastings let alone the championship.

Am i right in saying Gately didn't play in the hastings and won't play in the championship.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 07:50:00 PM
13 minutes before there was a score in the Dublin v Longford game.

a Point a piece after 16 minutes both from frees. Sounds like cracking stuff.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 07:52:08 PM
Ros 0-4 Sligo 0-3 22nd minutes.

Ros 6 wides Sligo 2 wides
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 08:02:24 PM
Ros 0-6 Sligo 0-4 HT

Dublin 0-4 Longford 0-3 HT
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 22, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
Tyrone 1-05 Donegal 0-06 24mins gone
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 08:32:42 PM
Con O'Callaghan turning it on 2-2 in the 2nd half

Dublin 2-7 Longford 1-4
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 08:33:59 PM
Donegal 0-8 v Tyrone 1-5 Half-time!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 08:34:33 PM
16mins 2nd Half
Roscommon: 0-8(8)
Sligo: 1-11(14) Jodie O'Reilly goal
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 22, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
Roscommon: 0-13(13)
Sligo: 1-13(16) FT

Dublin: 2-10(16)
Longford: 0-9(9) FT
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 22, 2017, 08:55:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Any news on the sligo or roscommon teams for tomorrow nights game.  I'm assuming Roscommon are heavy favorites- but you never know.
No word that I heard anyway. Ros missing a few better players through long term injuries. Also some lads can't commit and lack of funds means Sligo at 7/4 are v good odds for those of ye who are into betting.

You're a bad bastàrd to be trying to get people to waste money on a losing proposition.

What can you say, Sligo win by a goal, Sphillis looks like a plonker again
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 22, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Any news on the sligo or roscommon teams for tomorrow nights game.  I'm assuming Roscommon are heavy favorites- but you never know.
No word that I heard anyway. Ros missing a few better players through long term injuries. Also some lads can't commit and lack of funds means Sligo at 7/4 are v good odds for those of ye who are into betting.

You're a bad bastàrd to be trying to get people to waste money on a losing proposition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fc52FlDAm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fc52FlDAm0)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Tubberman on March 22, 2017, 09:08:12 PM
Hard not to laugh when Syferus' arrogance makes a gobshite of him yet again
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: vallankumous on March 22, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
Donegal 4 ahead going into last 10 minutes
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:16:56 PM
2 points in it with five minutes left
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:18:27 PM
0-15 to 1-9 with four minutes left.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 22, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 22, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Any news on the sligo or roscommon teams for tomorrow nights game.  I'm assuming Roscommon are heavy favorites- but you never know.
No word that I heard anyway. Ros missing a few better players through long term injuries. Also some lads can't commit and lack of funds means Sligo at 7/4 are v good odds for those of ye who are into betting.

You're a bad bastàrd to be trying to get people to waste money on a losing proposition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fc52FlDAm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fc52FlDAm0)
Yes!!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:20:37 PM
0-16 to 1-9 with a minute plus injury time left.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
0-17 to 1-9
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:24:41 PM
0-18 to 1-9

Donegal adding a few points at the end.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Roscommon football is at low tide this spring to say the least. Been a long time now since I've seen a primrose team win a match.

Basic errors, particularly when it came to kicking and when to kick let us down. Not unlike two years ago at minor against the same. Can't be too surprised by the result but this and the form of the minors indicating they may not do much better should serve as a wake up call to the CB about penny pinching at the grades that were the platform for most of our best players to be developed.

I was pulling the piss out of CK's confidence but this was always going to be a touch-and-go match. Well done to Sligo. They'll be up against it in the final but you never know. It would be some time for them to win their first and last U21 Connacht title.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on March 22, 2017, 09:26:44 PM
Donegal just a better side, Tyrone needed to do the job the first time around.

Have Donegal still many players to come back in?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:27:32 PM
0-18 to 1-9 FT

O'Neill sent off at the end for striking O'Donnell (no, really!). ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on March 22, 2017, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Roscmmion football is at low tide this spring to say the least. Been a long time now since I've seen a primrose team win a match.

Basic errors, particularly when it came to kicking and when to kick let us down. Not unlike two years ago at minor against the same. Can't be too surprised by the result but this and the form of the minors indicating they may not do much better should serve as a wake up call to the CB about penny pinching at the grades that were the platform for most of our best players to be developed.

I was pulling the piss out of CK's confidence but this was always gonig to be a touch-and-go match. Well done to Sligo. They'll be up against it in the final but you never know. It would be some time for them to win their first and last U21 Connacht title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H34ukFe8g
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on March 22, 2017, 09:26:44 PM
Donegal just a better side, Tyrone needed to do the job the first time around.

Have Donegal still many players to come back in?

Think Jason McGee was the main one missing tonight. Ciaran Gillespie was back for his first game of the season.

A few of the lads who've been featuring for the seniors had very good games from the sounds of it (Langan, Brennan, Mulligan).

Cavan next.

Apparently we looked a bit dodgy under the high ball.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 09:48:10 PM
Big game by Darragh Cummings in midfield, kicked 4 points in a row in the second half.  Good to see Eddie Mcguinness back.

Listened to the game on shannonside, that hegarty lad is funny but nuts.  He spent more time talking about tea and other stuff rather than the match itself.

Great to have a final to look forward to, we know it will be tough but it would absolutely be brilliant to win our first and only u21 title in the last year of the competition.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: magpie seanie on March 22, 2017, 09:57:49 PM
Well done Sligo. People more in the know than me were pretty confident we'd win but going up to Kiltoom is never easy for us. Glad we're through and I'd expect we'll not be a million miles away the next day. Up Sligo.

Kudos to CK for putting his neck on the block all along on this one. Most people who aren't shitheads give credit where it's due.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: StephenC on March 22, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
Good win for Donegal. Finished what they should have done last week.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rois on March 22, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:27:32 PM


O'Neill sent off at the end for striking O'Donnell (no, really!). ;D

This made me laugh out loud
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: trileacman on March 22, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 22, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 22, 2017, 09:27:32 PM


O'Neill sent off at the end for striking O'Donnell (no, really!). ;D

This made me laugh out loud

Me too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 22, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
So what about Cavan v Donegal? Is it a home game for Cavan? Donegal would be hot favourites nonetheless, especially after two strong battle-hardenings against Tyrone, whereas Cavan barely had a had put on them against Fermanagh. I'm not familiar with either side beyond there, what do those of you in the know think about it?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
I had seen both teams and Sligo were miles ahead in terms of gameplan. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up. Sligo will test Mayo
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 01:11:21 AM
The great run of good Ros U21 teams has come to an end in this last year of the grade.
Sligo deserved their win tonight in a game of 2 average sides.
A 3rd quarter scoring burst of 1-7 against our 2 points put them on the high road but they were stuttery enough when we tried to salvage the game in the last ten.
Impressed by Sligo's no 8.
We paid the price of cut price penny pinching.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up.
And nice poor oul devil called Aidan  Dockery. I won't go into details here but the whole set up was fairly amateurish.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:14:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Roscmmion football is at low tide this spring to say the least. Been a long time now since I've seen a primrose team win a match.

Basic errors, particularly when it came to kicking and when to kick let us down. Not unlike two years ago at minor against the same. Can't be too surprised by the result but this and the form of the minors indicating they may not do much better should serve as a wake up call to the CB about penny pinching at the grades that were the platform for most of our best players to be developed.

I was pulling the piss out of CK's confidence but this was always going to be a touch-and-go match. Well done to Sligo. They'll be up against it in the final but you never know. It would be some time for them to win their first and last U21 Connacht title.

I accept your apology Syferous.  8)
Tonight was no flash in the pan. A lot of good work has gone into this team. We have beaten big scalps already this year including Mayo, Tyrone and Donegal twice!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2017, 01:58:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up.
And nice poor oul devil called Aidan  Dockery. I won't go into details here but the whole set up was fairly amateurish.

Sure the CB set the tone. Lots of candidates walked when they heard the draconian budgeting the CB wanted them to accept. Wouldn't attach too much blame to the poor fecker who had the thankless job of dealing with them. Management team included experienced heads like Wally Burke so it's not like they were useless.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 23, 2017, 02:05:04 AM
I think Roscommon only scored one point from play in the second half - can't figure out if or backs are great or just prefer to give away frees.

Was someone injured in the second half?  I didn't hear anything on the radio. If they kept switching over to the Longford match.  6 minutes is a huge amount of extra time to play and I was afraid the ref was trying to steal it from us.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2017, 01:58:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up.
And nice poor oul devil called Aidan  Dockery. I won't go into details here but the whole set up was fairly amateurish.

Sure the CB set the tone. Lots of candidates walked when they heard the draconian budgeting the CB wanted them to accept. Wouldn't attach too much blame to the poor fecker who had the thankless job of dealing with them. Management team included experienced heads like Wally Burke so it's not like they were useless.
They still got a nice night out in Monaghan though a weeks ago....the video of about 5 of the team getting decked by one local lad outside the nightclub is hilarious, county board could definitely make a few bob selling the rights to it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 09:18:41 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 23, 2017, 02:05:04 AM
I think Roscommon only scored one point from play in the second half - can't figure out if or backs are great or just prefer to give away frees.

Was someone injured in the second half?  I didn't hear anything on the radio. If they kept switching over to the Longford match.  6 minutes is a huge amount of extra time to play and I was afraid the ref was trying to steal it from us.
Our goalie was injured when Sligo got the goal but that only took a minute or so. There was a hold up when we lost a free over some schemozzling over on the terrace side.
Most were amazed at the 6 minutes but aren't Refs adding on time for substitutions now?  There were 11 or 12 of them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rudi on March 23, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2017, 01:58:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up.
And nice poor oul devil called Aidan  Dockery. I won't go into details here but the whole set up was fairly amateurish.

Sure the CB set the tone. Lots of candidates walked when they heard the draconian budgeting the CB wanted them to accept. Wouldn't attach too much blame to the poor fecker who had the thankless job of dealing with them. Management team included experienced heads like Wally Burke so it's not like they were useless.
They still got a nice night out in Monaghan though a weeks ago....the video of about 5 of the team getting decked by one local lad outside the nightclub is hilarious, county board could definitely make a few bob selling the rights to it.

Another Mayo man kicking us when we are down. Is it any wonder we laugh when Mayo fail miserably in another All Ireland Final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: FarneyMan on March 23, 2017, 11:58:01 AM

They still got a nice night out in Monaghan though a weeks ago....the video of about 5 of the team getting decked by one local lad outside the nightclub is hilarious, county board could definitely make a few bob selling the rights to it.
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Link!?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 23, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
I had seen both teams and Sligo were miles ahead in terms of gameplan. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up. Sligo will test Mayo

really?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2017, 12:41:30 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 23, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 23, 2017, 01:58:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 23, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: ck on March 23, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 22, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Like I said you never know.  Sligo win by a goal.  6 minutes of extra time played?

Great call CK. 

Any comments or betting advice syf?

Thanks!!
. Not sure who manages Roscommon but they werent overly well set up.
And nice poor oul devil called Aidan  Dockery. I won't go into details here but the whole set up was fairly amateurish.

Sure the CB set the tone. Lots of candidates walked when they heard the draconian budgeting the CB wanted them to accept. Wouldn't attach too much blame to the poor fecker who had the thankless job of dealing with them. Management team included experienced heads like Wally Burke so it's not like they were useless.
They still got a nice night out in Monaghan though a weeks ago....the video of about 5 of the team getting decked by one local lad outside the nightclub is hilarious, county board could definitely make a few bob selling the rights to it.

Another Mayo man kicking us when we are down. Is it any wonder we laugh when Mayo fail miserably in another All Ireland Final.
I'll whatsapp you the video....it'll cheer you up.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rudi on March 23, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
A ride wouldn't cheer me up today  :(
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Man Marker on March 23, 2017, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: Rudi on March 23, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
A ride wouldn't cheer me up today  :(

if you got the right woman who knows what she is doing, I would argue it would do more than cheer you up
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2017, 02:40:10 PM
Not sure what players get up to in their private time has to do with this thread ballinaman.

Not a surprise to see Sligo win last night I called it months ago eventhough Syferus disagreed giving the final kiss of death. Like the seniors Roscommon had many of their better players watching this game instead of playing it. Yes injury prevented plenty from playing but others opted out or bizarrely weren't given starts or even named on the 24.

Well done Sligo on reaching the final I'd say that was their target at the beginning of the year. Next they face All Ireland contender and if it's Mayo they will be full strength and fully focused unlike the North west cup and Galway on the other hand beat Sligo comfortably at minor level 3 years ago and gave them a trimming in the 2015 minor final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2017, 02:52:27 PM
Minor final of 2015 went to a replay. Tut tut.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 23, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2017, 02:40:10 PM
Not sure what players get up to in their private time has to do with this thread ballinaman.

Not a surprise to see Sligo win last night I called it months ago eventhough Syferus disagreed giving the final kiss of death. Like the seniors Roscommon had many of their better players watching this game instead of playing it. Yes injury prevented plenty from playing but others opted out or bizarrely weren't given starts or even named on the 24.

Well done Sligo on reaching the final I'd say that was their target at the beginning of the year. Next they face All Ireland contender and if it's Mayo they will be full strength and fully focused unlike the North west cup and Galway on the other hand beat Sligo comfortably at minor level 3 years ago and gave them a trimming in the 2015 minor final.

I think the "trimming" you refer to was in a replay which means the first game was a draw....  so maybe not as big a difference as you think.

Delighted with the result yesterday, last u21 game we played in Kiltoon we got bet by about 30 points, which was 2 years ago.

No illusions as to the magnitude of the task against either Mayo or Galway.  Anyone know who has home advantage in the various scenarios?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 23, 2017, 02:54:39 PM

I think the "trimming" you refer to was in a replay which means the first game was a draw....  so maybe not as big a difference as you think.
A draw isn't much use if you get a trimming in the replay. Roscommon seniors last July a prime example.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2017, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2017, 02:40:10 PM
Not sure what players get up to in their private time has to do with this thread ballinaman.

Challenge match and team bonding weekend they were on, Sounds like county duty to me.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2017, 09:51:14 PM
Manager Mike Solan has named a number of last years U21 winning team in his starting team for Saturday. Matthew Flanagan, Eoin O'Donoghue, Shairoze Akram, Matthew Ruane & Jame Kelly all started the 2016 final win over Cork while James Carr came off the bench.

Throw in at Tuam Stadium  is 5pm.
1. Matthew Flanagan (Balla)
2. Stephen Brennan (Claremorris)
3. Eoin O Donoghue (Belmullet)
4. Sean Conlon (Castlebar Mitchels)
5. Marcus Park (Knockmore)
6. Dylan Cannon (Breaffy)
7. Shairoze Akram (Ballaghaderreen)
8. Matthew Ruane (Breaffy)
9. Mikey Murray (Ballina Stephenites)
10. James McCormack (Claremorris)
11. Gerry Canavan (Mayo Gaels)
12. James Kelly (Belmullet)
13. James Lyons (Aghamore)
14. Brian Reape (Bohola Moy Davitts, Captain)
15. James Carr (Ardagh)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 23, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
Galway team to play Mayo in the Connacht U-21 semi-final on Saturday

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Colm Ó Braonain (Oileáin Árann)
10. Antaine Ó Laoi (An Spidéal)
11. Micheal Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Colin Brady (Corofin)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: magpie seanie on March 24, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 23, 2017, 02:54:39 PM

I think the "trimming" you refer to was in a replay which means the first game was a draw....  so maybe not as big a difference as you think.
A draw isn't much use if you get a trimming in the replay. Roscommon seniors last July a prime example.

True but we were much the better team the first day but didn't get over the line. Second day was a disaster but I wouldn't say we're a million miles off.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Lone Shark on March 25, 2017, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 23, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
Galway team to play Mayo in the Connacht U-21 semi-final on Saturday

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Colm Ó Braonain (Oileáin Árann)
10. Antaine Ó Laoi (An Spidéal)
11. Micheal Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Colin Brady (Corofin)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)

A serious amount of west Galway in that team. Is this a one off, or is this a trend that's likely to continue for a few years? I remember covering their minors against Laois last year and it was something similar.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 25, 2017, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 23, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
Galway team to play Mayo in the Connacht U-21 semi-final on Saturday

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Colm Ó Braonain (Oileáin Árann)
10. Antaine Ó Laoi (An Spidéal)
11. Micheal Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Colin Brady (Corofin)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)

A serious amount of west Galway in that team. Is this a one off, or is this a trend that's likely to continue for a few years? I remember covering their minors against Laois last year and it was something similar.

Pretty much been a common trend over the last 5 or more years I'd say. Lot more players coming through the west board clubs compared to the past. 9 on this team which would be unusually high but there's been a definite swing away from the north. At underage at least.

Of course though not all west clubs are Gaeltacht clubs. The city clubs (and environs) play in the west board so it's often Gaeltacht v Galway city clubs.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Lone Shark on March 25, 2017, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 25, 2017, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 23, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
Galway team to play Mayo in the Connacht U-21 semi-final on Saturday

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Colm Ó Braonain (Oileáin Árann)
10. Antaine Ó Laoi (An Spidéal)
11. Micheal Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Colin Brady (Corofin)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)

A serious amount of west Galway in that team. Is this a one off, or is this a trend that's likely to continue for a few years? I remember covering their minors against Laois last year and it was something similar.

Pretty much been a common trend over the last 5 or more years I'd say. Lot more players coming through the west board clubs compared to the past. 9 on this team which would be unusually high but there's been a definite swing away from the north. At underage at least.

Of course though not all west clubs are Gaeltacht clubs. The city clubs (and environs) play in the west board so it's often Gaeltacht v Galway city clubs.

Don't I know - played a small handful of games for Fr Griffins/Éire Óg a few years ago when I was living in the city, well aware of the regular treks out to the sticks that come with the territory there!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 25, 2017, 04:38:55 PM
Couldn't ask for better weather for a Connacht semi final in March. Galway minors beat Mayo by 4 points in the opening game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 25, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 25, 2017, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 25, 2017, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 23, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
Galway team to play Mayo in the Connacht U-21 semi-final on Saturday

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Colm Ó Braonain (Oileáin Árann)
10. Antaine Ó Laoi (An Spidéal)
11. Micheal Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Colin Brady (Corofin)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)

A serious amount of west Galway in that team. Is this a one off, or is this a trend that's likely to continue for a few years? I remember covering their minors against Laois last year and it was something similar.

Pretty much been a common trend over the last 5 or more years I'd say. Lot more players coming through the west board clubs compared to the past. 9 on this team which would be unusually high but there's been a definite swing away from the north. At underage at least.

Of course though not all west clubs are Gaeltacht clubs. The city clubs (and environs) play in the west board so it's often Gaeltacht v Galway city clubs.

Don't I know - played a small handful of games for Fr Griffins/Éire Óg a few years ago when I was living in the city, well aware of the regular treks out to the sticks that come with the territory there!
Nothing wrong with seeing a bit of the world while your young LS!! 😜
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on March 25, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
Galway 0.05 Mayo 0.02  13 min gone .Galway dominating midfield
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 25, 2017, 05:23:20 PM
8-2 to Galway. A mayo goal against run of play 0-8 to 1-2 now
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on March 25, 2017, 05:30:05 PM
0.09 to 1.04. 2 min. to HT.Paul Mannion the star so far at FF
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 25, 2017, 05:35:00 PM
Galway 0-10 Mayo 1-5 HT.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 25, 2017, 05:37:34 PM
Galway the better side kicked 10 scores and kicked 9 wides. Mayo hanging there the goal a real lifeline.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2017, 05:46:31 PM
Very similar to the minor game 3 years ago so far. Galway totally dominant for most of the first half but very wasteful as well. Mayo then get a couple scores including a goal just before the break to leave only 2 between the sides.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 25, 2017, 05:54:08 PM
Galway 1-11 Mayo 1-7 the latest.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on March 25, 2017, 06:06:16 PM
2.13 to 1.09.Hard to see a way back for mayo;13 min to go
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 25, 2017, 06:08:02 PM
Bad error on that 2nd Galway goal. Galway should close the game out now.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on March 25, 2017, 06:25:40 PM
The favourites live up to their expectations.  Galway 2-13 Mayo 1-10. Straight red for James Kelly of Mayo late on.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 25, 2017, 06:39:04 PM
Bad tempered poor second half. Galway good value for their 6 point win.

Galway football taking over in Connacht again? Connacht minor champions 2015,16,Connacht senior champions 2016,Corofin the best senior club in Connacht and now they should add a Connacht U21 title to their recent honours list.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2017, 06:46:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 25, 2017, 06:39:04 PM
Bad tempered poor second half. Galway good value for their 6 point win.

Galway football taking over in Connacht again? Connacht minor champions 2015,16,Connacht senior champions 2016,Corofin the best senior club in Connacht and now they should add a Connacht U21 title to their recent honours list.

Minors beat Mayo as well today before the U-21s. Only the league though. Yeah given the quality of the recent minor sides, Galway maybe look set for a period of dominance at underage in the province. Then again Sligo might have something to say about that next week. Plus these things tend to go in swings and roundabouts. Not so long ago we went 5 full years without winning a single minor game in the province.

Peter Cooke got motm today for those wondering.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 25, 2017, 08:27:00 PM
This crew (lads who were minor 3 years ago) showed a lot of promise all the way up.
The two Galway teams played each other in the 2012 u16 Ted Webb final.
By the time they reached minor the star forwards on each of those teams - Ryan Manning from Claregalway (now with QPR) & Padraic Cunningham from Headford (Galway United) had been lost to soccer.
I was at that Mayo minor game in 2014 and Galway should have been out the gate by the time Daly was sent off.
It would be nice to see them win Connacht now though Sligo will not be an easy game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: moysider on March 25, 2017, 10:20:43 PM

With a couple of notable exceptions Mayo underage has been ordinary for quite a while now.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 26, 2017, 04:05:53 AM
Anyone know where the Connacht final will be played?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 26, 2017, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 26, 2017, 04:05:53 AM
Anyone know where the Connacht final will be played?

Sligo.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2017, 09:03:37 AM
I hear it's Saturday 6pm in Markiewicz.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 26, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2017, 09:03:37 AM
I hear it's Saturday 6pm in Markiewicz.
That's correct. Minors on before it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on March 26, 2017, 06:42:31 PM
Our u21 team might be better than our senior team based on the result today.

Best of luck lads, what a boost a win would be for us.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 27, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
Apart from the 2 midfielders any other stand out performers for Galway?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 27, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 27, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
Apart from the 2 midfielders any other stand out performers for Galway?
I thought it was a good solid all round team performance with Cooke probably a deserving MOTM.  The most pleasing aspect was that mostly all the subs had a very positive impact and our lads seemed well equipped to deal with the physical stuff when required.  On the negative side, we didn't convert enough of our chances in the first half - think we had about 8 or 9 wides to Mayo's 2 and we really should have been at least 6 point up instead of level.  A similar performance will be required up in Sligo next Sat eve.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 27, 2017, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 27, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
Apart from the 2 midfielders any other stand out performers for Galway?

Liam Kelly was excellent at the back I thought. McDaid made a number of powerful surging runs forward. Mannion was very slick when he was getting a lot of ball in the first half. The service to him dried up a little after half time. Maybe a good sign for the team that Daly didn't even have to produce any heroics for them to win relatively handily.

Cooke and Brennan in midfield are a powerful pair though. Can fetch high ball but both athletic and mobile as well. They also are the spit of each other with their shock of red hair.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2017, 08:15:35 PM
Huge game in Enniskillen. I believe Cavan are a talented bunch of players with some top forwards for a change and a lot of big mobile men. They are up against a battle hardened Donegal with some top senior squad players. This cavan panel has always underachieved down through the years but I think they can run Donegal close tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: rodney trotter on March 27, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Wednesday the game. A good bunch of the team won the MacRory Cup, wouldn't say they underachieved.  Minor football is unpredictable anyway. It was a poor enough Minor management.

Gallagher doing his best to run the Donegal u21s into the ground, so Cavan should be fresher at least.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2017, 08:48:08 PM
Donegal 1/4 and Cavan 7-2. That's crazy stuff.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 27, 2017, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 27, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Gallagher doing his best to run the Donegal u21s into the ground, so Cavan should be fresher at least.

6 U21s played in the game against Monaghan. 

With my tin-foil hat on, someone from Donegal winning an Ulster U21 (or even going further) is the last thing Gallagher needs if he wants to hold on to the senior job long-term.

Wonder if any journo has asked Declan Bonnar what he thinks of Gallagher's use of the U21s?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 28, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
Lads, just what options do you think are available in Donegal?

These are the best players in the county and will be on the senior squad and first fifteen come the summer. In case you missed it, we lost half a team since last year. If older players were there, they would have played over the past couple of seasons.

Lacey and McElhinney and McBrearty came on yesterday on their way back from injury. Ciaran Gillespie as well, although he did play in the midweek U-21 game. Ryan McHugh could be out for a while now, depending on how bad that ankle injury he was carried off with turns out to be. Jason McGee, another U-21, will be playing for the seniors this summer too, although he's out at the moment.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 28, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on March 27, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 27, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
Apart from the 2 midfielders any other stand out performers for Galway?
I thought it was a good solid all round team performance with Cooke probably a deserving MOTM.  The most pleasing aspect was that mostly all the subs had a very positive impact and our lads seemed well equipped to deal with the physical stuff when required.  On the negative side, we didn't convert enough of our chances in the first half - think we had about 8 or 9 wides to Mayo's 2 and we really should have been at least 6 point up instead of level.  A similar performance will be required up in Sligo next Sat eve.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 27, 2017, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 27, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
Apart from the 2 midfielders any other stand out performers for Galway?

Liam Kelly was excellent at the back I thought. McDaid made a number of powerful surging runs forward. Mannion was very slick when he was getting a lot of ball in the first half. The service to him dried up a little after half time. Maybe a good sign for the team that Daly didn't even have to produce any heroics for them to win relatively handily.

Cooke and Brennan in midfield are a powerful pair though. Can fetch high ball but both athletic and mobile as well. They also are the spit of each other with their shock of red hair.

Cheers fella's. Watched the highlights last night on tg4 although they didn't show much.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 28, 2017, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2017, 08:15:35 PM
Huge game in Enniskillen. I believe Cavan are a talented bunch of players with some top forwards for a change and a lot of big mobile men. They are up against a battle hardened Donegal with some top senior squad players. This cavan panel has always underachieved down through the years but I think they can run Donegal close tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

I have money on Cavan. Bookies giving ridiculous odds!
I watched Cavan this year and let me tell you they are a serious outfit. Very very defensive and well organised. Donegal could be in for the shock of their lives here.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on March 28, 2017, 12:25:14 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on March 28, 2017, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2017, 08:15:35 PM
Huge game in Enniskillen. I believe Cavan are a talented bunch of players with some top forwards for a change and a lot of big mobile men. They are up against a battle hardened Donegal with some top senior squad players. This cavan panel has always underachieved down through the years but I think they can run Donegal close tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

I have money on Cavan. Bookies giving ridiculous odds!
I watched Cavan this year and let me tell you they are a serious outfit. Very very defensive and well organised. Donegal could be in for the shock of their lives here.

I have 50e on them at 9-1 to win Ulster,  I think whoever wins this game will win it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Westside on March 28, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
What's the handicap on Donegal? I don't think Cavan will win, just don't think there's enough steel in the side when the going gets tough, but I think 7/2 is long odds all the same.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 28, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 28, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
Lads, just what options do you think are available in Donegal?

These are the best players in the county and will be on the senior squad and first fifteen come the summer. In case you missed it, we lost half a team since last year. If older players were there, they would have played over the past couple of seasons.

Lacey and McElhinney and McBrearty came on yesterday on their way back from injury. Ciaran Gillespie as well, although he did play in the midweek U-21 game. Ryan McHugh could be out for a while now, depending on how bad that ankle injury he was carried off with turns out to be. Jason McGee, another U-21, will be playing for the seniors this summer too, although he's out at the moment.

No-one is saying that Donegal shouldn't be playing any U21s or anything like that but surely things aren't that bad in Donegal that they could manage things in the squad even a smidge better ?


Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Esmarelda on March 28, 2017, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 28, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
What's the handicap on Donegal? I don't think Cavan will win, just don't think there's enough steel in the side when the going gets tough, but I think 7/2 is long odds all the same.
+4
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 28, 2017, 10:52:18 PM
Kerry, Dublin and Donegal treble is even money.
Tempting but Cavan worry me. They gave Sligo a tanking a few weeks ago
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 28, 2017, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 28, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 28, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
Lads, just what options do you think are available in Donegal?

These are the best players in the county and will be on the senior squad and first fifteen come the summer. In case you missed it, we lost half a team since last year. If older players were there, they would have played over the past couple of seasons.

Lacey and McElhinney and McBrearty came on yesterday on their way back from injury. Ciaran Gillespie as well, although he did play in the midweek U-21 game. Ryan McHugh could be out for a while now, depending on how bad that ankle injury he was carried off with turns out to be. Jason McGee, another U-21, will be playing for the seniors this summer too, although he's out at the moment.

No-one is saying that Donegal shouldn't be playing any U21s or anything like that but surely things aren't that bad in Donegal that they could manage things in the squad even a smidge better ?

Sure its widely known that there's bad blood between the Donegal u21 management and senior. There's no need for Rory Gallagher to be playing so many young lads but he persists regardless. I'd say Gallagher can't wait to see the 21s out of the championship.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on March 29, 2017, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 28, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 28, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
Lads, just what options do you think are available in Donegal?

These are the best players in the county and will be on the senior squad and first fifteen come the summer. In case you missed it, we lost half a team since last year. If older players were there, they would have played over the past couple of seasons.

Lacey and McElhinney and McBrearty came on yesterday on their way back from injury. Ciaran Gillespie as well, although he did play in the midweek U-21 game. Ryan McHugh could be out for a while now, depending on how bad that ankle injury he was carried off with turns out to be. Jason McGee, another U-21, will be playing for the seniors this summer too, although he's out at the moment.

No-one is saying that Donegal shouldn't be playing any U21s or anything like that but surely things aren't that bad in Donegal that they could manage things in the squad even a smidge better ?

How though? Have an extra five to ten players in the squad to cover the last two league games to give the U-21s a rest?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on March 29, 2017, 11:46:43 AM
An awful lot of oul cobblers being spoken about the Donegal U21's being out on their feet paying 2 games a week.

These young lads can't wait for the next game with both Donegal teams going so well, besides which if they weren't playing midweek they would be training instead & injuries can be picked up in training as easily as playing. Momentum & confidence are huge factors in the success of any outfit & Declan Bonner should be delighted that so many of his players have had exposure to senior football & done well. It can only add to them as players.

As far as Rory is concerned, he is trying to meld a squad of rookies & old hands into a championship team that has Ulster in it's sights. He won't be able to do that if he can't play his key players week in week out.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: magpie seanie on March 29, 2017, 12:50:15 PM
Going to miss Saturday due to a long standing commitment as I understand one of our most committed Sligo contributors on here is. It will be very tough. Mayo were a good side and Galway disposed of them quite comprehensively. It's a disgrace we've never won a provincial title at this grade, had good enough teams a few times but fecked up in our own inimitable way. Hope we can right that wrong at the final time of asking.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
Any Galway posters know why Evan Murphy isn't on the U-21 team this year? Was probably the stand out player on last year's minors and his teammates Robert Finnerty and Dessie Conneely are on the team but he isn't. I'm guessing that he has soccer commitments of some sort but not sure.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2017, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

He's fit in perfectly on the Mayo senior team so.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2017, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

He's fit in perfectly on the Mayo senior team so.
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Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

Did he? I thought I saw the team online and he wasn't on it but there could have been late changes in usual GAA fashion. He scored a fair bit in the Connacht championship last year but didn't have a great final against Kerry. Put a few early shots wide and the head dropped a little I think. Took a bad belt in the semi final if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

Did he? I thought I saw the team online and he wasn't on it but there could have been late changes in usual GAA fashion. He scored a fair bit in the Connacht championship last year but didn't have a great final against Kerry. Put a few early shots wide and the head dropped a little I think. Took a bad belt in the semi final if I remember correctly.
Yeah, he delivered some quality ball to inside line....Darragh Silke from Corofin looks like a player, good left peg. He is anything to Ray? April 29th in Castlebar is set up nicely.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 29, 2017, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

Did he? I thought I saw the team online and he wasn't on it but there could have been late changes in usual GAA fashion. He scored a fair bit in the Connacht championship last year but didn't have a great final against Kerry. Put a few early shots wide and the head dropped a little I think. Took a bad belt in the semi final if I remember correctly.
Yeah, he delivered some quality ball to inside line....Darragh Silke from Corofin looks like a player, good left peg. He is anything to Ray? April 29th in Castlebar is set up nicely.

He's Ray's nephew, brother of Liam that plays with the seniors. He started the year as captain last year but got a bump on the head and missed nearly all of the championship with concussion.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 29, 2017, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

Well he scored heavily last year for the minors apart from the final.
2-4(1-2 from play) against Ros, 0-2 from play against Mayo, 1-3 from play against Laois and 0-2(1 from play) against Donegal.
Granted his game is a lot about distribution though.
He would be a big loss if the minors had to play without him this year.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 29, 2017, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 29, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 29, 2017, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 29, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Is he not still underage for minor this year?

Could be alright although I don't think he's been playing for the minors in the league. Again not sure what his soccer commitments are.

Actually just did some digging. He's been playing for Ireland in the Centenary Cup. Playing Scotland on April 6. Match report from game against the North. Looks like he was captain too.

http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north (http://www.faischools.ie/international/news/2017/mar/thu/centenary-shield-republic-late-flourish-edge-north)
He started last Saturday vs Mayo in Minor league. Dangerous at delivering long ball to inside line, peels off well to the wing and is a playmaker from there. Doesn't threaten the scoreborard any time I've seen him however.

Well he scored heavily last year for the minors apart from the final.
2-4(1-2 from play) against Ros, 0-2 from play against Mayo, 1-3 from play against Laois and 0-2(1 from play) against Donegal.
Granted his game is a lot about distribution though.
He would be a big loss if the minors had to play without him this year.
Hadn't seen those scores...only saw him in Connacht final last year and last Saturday vs Mayo.
On a side note, what's the story with the Galway selector shouting THERE every 5 seconds...one of the most booming/irritating voices I've ever heard at a match  ;D from where I was sitting in the stand, he dominated the game ..haha
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mrdeeds on March 29, 2017, 07:32:34 PM
Cavan Donegal off. Pitch unplayable.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 29, 2017, 07:42:45 PM
Kerry 0-4- Cork 0-0 after 10 minutes

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
Fecking Brewester Park and Omagh.. can't hold any water.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2017, 07:45:47 PM
3 points in a row for Cork 4-3 now.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 29, 2017, 08:01:49 PM
Kerry 1-6 Cork 0-3 at half time.


Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2017, 08:02:53 PM
Cork would be closer but lack a decent free taker.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 29, 2017, 08:06:08 PM
Ref being fairly strict on the tackle given the conditions.

Cork struggled to get out of their own half for long periods. Probably a bit lucky that Kerry aren't further ahead .

Dublin: 0-10 Offaly: 0-5 at HT
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Estimator on March 29, 2017, 08:13:42 PM
Derry / Armagh game off. Pitch unplayable at Healy Park.
Refixed for next week at Celtic Park - Derry won the toss.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 29, 2017, 08:35:03 PM
Cork have been abject - beaten all off the field. The fact that both Clare and Waterford gave Kerry more of a game says it all.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 29, 2017, 08:42:57 PM
Kerry 9 year famine at U21 level over. Last time they won Munster they went on to win the All Ireland history should repeat itself this year.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on March 29, 2017, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 29, 2017, 08:42:57 PM
Kerry 9 year famine at U21 level over. Last time they won Munster they went on to win the All Ireland history should repeat itself this year.

Wouldn't bet against it - however tough to know how good exactly Kerry are on the basis of tonight Cork were so poor.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 29, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
4 in a row for Dublin, the future is bright for Leinster football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2017, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 29, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
4 in a row for Dublin, the future is bright for Leinster football.
In 2008 Dublin had won only 7 Leinsters U21 titles. 2009 to 2017 they have won another 7...
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2017, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 29, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
4 in a row for Dublin, the future is bright for Leinster football.

We'll be told (by the blind) that this is only a phase and will pass! Of the last 9 Leinster under 21 titles available, Dublin have won 7! Dublin previously to this won Leinster titles sporadically! This is not a phase this is turning into total domination.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 29, 2017, 09:56:52 PM
In fairness Kildare were the better team in 2016 and really should have won while our under 20s next year should be stronger than theirs if we have everyone available. It is still going to need something close to a miracle to close the gap though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2017, 10:29:21 PM
The thing is that at under 21, Senior intercounty and Senior Club. Dublin are dominating! They have their House(s) in order. Heavily funded and have the population. As long as they continue with the current template this domination will continue.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on March 29, 2017, 11:34:40 PM
Just watched Kerry on TG4. They look AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Hound on March 30, 2017, 07:55:14 AM
Giving Dublin credit for winning this Leinster title is like giving Galway credit for winning a Connacht hurling title. The way the draw worked out, if Dublin had been replaced in Leinster by Galway, Kerry, Cavan, Donegal, Tyrone, (etc.) that team would have won Leinster just as easily.

Likely to be very tight games in most of the remaining matches, but Kerry seem to have the best panel of players.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 30, 2017, 08:38:04 AM
It's going to be a very difficult task for ourselves or Sligo to topple that Kerry side.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 30, 2017, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: galwayman on March 30, 2017, 08:38:04 AM
It's going to be a very difficult task for ourselves or Sligo to topple that Kerry side.
I recall similar said about the Cork U21 team in 2011 before Galway beat them. Connacht has been very strong at U21 the last few years I think only one defeat for the Connacht champions in Al semi final from 2011 to 2016.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 10:08:23 AM
There are no 'sure things' when it comes to underage football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ashman on March 30, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2017, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 29, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
4 in a row for Dublin, the future is bright for Leinster football.
In 2008 Dublin had won only 7 Leinsters U21 titles. 2009 to 2017 they have won another 7...

To be fair that stat is a little misleading as Dublin didn't compete in the grade for a good number of years in the eighties and early nineties .  Someone might confirm the years ??
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 30, 2017, 10:10:45 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 10:08:23 AM
There are no 'sure things' when it comes to underage football.
nurses
Coppers
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: heffo on March 30, 2017, 10:20:25 AM
Quote from: ashman on March 30, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2017, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 29, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
4 in a row for Dublin, the future is bright for Leinster football.
In 2008 Dublin had won only 7 Leinsters U21 titles. 2009 to 2017 they have won another 7...

To be fair that stat is a little misleading as Dublin didn't compete in the grade for a good number of years in the eighties and early nineties .  Someone might confirm the years ??

Really? I don't remember that if it was the case. They were thrown out in '97 and banned (then let back in) in '98
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 30, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
Kerry were very good but Cork were appalling. How many Kerry players got the black card? There was no way they were letting Cork in for a goal in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: AZOffaly on March 30, 2017, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

Tipp won two, in 2010 and 2015 as well. Mad that Tipp have as many as Kerry since 2008.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mouview on March 30, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 30, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
Kerry were very good but Cork were appalling. How many Kerry players got the black card? There was no way they were letting Cork in for a goal in the 2nd half.

Kerry footballers wouldn't do that would they?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on March 30, 2017, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 30, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 30, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
Kerry were very good but Cork were appalling. How many Kerry players got the black card? There was no way they were letting Cork in for a goal in the 2nd half.

Kerry footballers wouldn't do that would they?

No way Kerry footballers would get involved in that kind of disgraceful carry on.

He must have meant Tyrone or Donegal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on March 30, 2017, 07:04:28 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on March 30, 2017, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 30, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 30, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
Kerry were very good but Cork were appalling. How many Kerry players got the black card? There was no way they were letting Cork in for a goal in the 2nd half.

Kerry footballers wouldn't do that would they?

No way Kerry footballers would get involved in that kind of disgraceful carry on.

He must have meant Tyrone or Donegal.

+1

Kerry footballers would never do that, they focus on the skills and pleasing aspects of the game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on March 30, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.

The manager issue has been a bit ridiculous. But this has been a long standing problem in Cork GAA. From the outside looking in it seemed that Ephie Fitzgerald was an obvious candidate for the past few years.
Also there is a certain level of not caring. I have family down there who are huge GAA people. But it's all about club. They wouldn't bother going to Croke Park to see Cork play if they were paid. The very idea of it is crazy to them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.

The manager issue has been a bit ridiculous. But this has been a long standing problem in Cork GAA. From the outside looking in it seemed that Ephie Fitzgerald was an obvious candidate for the past few years.
Also there is a certain level of not caring. I have family down there who are huge GAA people. But it's all about club. They wouldn't bother going to Croke Park to see Cork play if they were paid. The very idea of it is crazy to them.

The real answer is their players are a bit shite. I remember Indiana or someone salivating over Hurley three or four years ago..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: shark on March 30, 2017, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.

The manager issue has been a bit ridiculous. But this has been a long standing problem in Cork GAA. From the outside looking in it seemed that Ephie Fitzgerald was an obvious candidate for the past few years.
Also there is a certain level of not caring. I have family down there who are huge GAA people. But it's all about club. They wouldn't bother going to Croke Park to see Cork play if they were paid. The very idea of it is crazy to them.

The real answer is their players are a bit shite. I remember Indiana or someone salivating over Hurely three or four years ago..

He wasn't the only one. Hurley hasn't even played 10 championship games for Cork, so I don't know what you're judging him on. Quite possible he will never even make it to 10 due to the state of his hamstring. You picked a poor example. There are others for sure who have had chances to live up to their underage billing and have failed to do so. It is hard for young players to come in and preform in an unstable environment though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on March 30, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
It's only Syfīn excreting as usual ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2017, 10:15:39 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.

The manager issue has been a bit ridiculous. But this has been a long standing problem in Cork GAA. From the outside looking in it seemed that Ephie Fitzgerald was an obvious candidate for the past few years.
Also there is a certain level of not caring. I have family down there who are huge GAA people. But it's all about club. They wouldn't bother going to Croke Park to see Cork play if they were paid. The very idea of it is crazy to them.

The real answer is their players are a bit shite. I remember Indiana or someone salivating over Hurely three or four years ago..

He wasn't the only one. Hurley hasn't even played 10 championship games for Cork, so I don't know what you're judging him on. Quite possible he will never even make it to 10 due to the state of his hamstring. You picked a poor example. There are others for sure who have had chances to live up to their underage billing and have failed to do so. It is hard for young players to come in and preform in an unstable environment though.

There are 2 younger brothers who look handy too. Cork don't look like they care very much any more. James loughrey from antrim went there and i am sure was expecting to be playing in July august every year and probably hasn't seen football then once. So much talent in the county too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on March 30, 2017, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.

The manager issue has been a bit ridiculous. But this has been a long standing problem in Cork GAA. From the outside looking in it seemed that Ephie Fitzgerald was an obvious candidate for the past few years.
Also there is a certain level of not caring. I have family down there who are huge GAA people. But it's all about club. They wouldn't bother going to Croke Park to see Cork play if they were paid. The very idea of it is crazy to them.

The real answer is their players are a bit shite. I remember Indiana or someone salivating over Hurely three or four years ago..

He wasn't the only one. Hurley hasn't even played 10 championship games for Cork, so I don't know what you're judging him on. Quite possible he will never even make it to 10 due to the state of his hamstring. You picked a poor example. There are others for sure who have had chances to live up to their underage billing and have failed to do so. It is hard for young players to come in and preform in an unstable environment though.

Cork dominating Munster football over 8 years means nothing other than they are better than Kerry during that period. With the slight exception of Tipp, the rest are fodder for the big two year in year out!

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 30, 2017, 11:03:22 PM
Galway name unchanged team for Connacht final

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)
2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)
5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)
8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Colm Ó Braonain (Oileáin Árann)
10. Antaine Ó Laoi (An Spidéal)
11. Micheal Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Colin Brady (Corofin)
13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 31, 2017, 12:23:48 AM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: shark on March 30, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 30, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
It's actually nuts that that before last night, 2008 was the last time Kerry won a munster u-21.
How could Cork be that dominant and not see any real progression at senior level?

A succession of poor to very poor managers, poor training facilities and I suspect Kerry Group's money makes a difference too. A culture of mediocrity has crept in there in recent years too.

The manager issue has been a bit ridiculous. But this has been a long standing problem in Cork GAA. From the outside looking in it seemed that Ephie Fitzgerald was an obvious candidate for the past few years.
Also there is a certain level of not caring. I have family down there who are huge GAA people. But it's all about club. They wouldn't bother going to Croke Park to see Cork play if they were paid. The very idea of it is crazy to them.

The real answer is their players are a bit shite. I remember Indiana or someone salivating over Hurely three or four years ago..

He wasn't the only one. Hurley hasn't even played 10 championship games for Cork, so I don't know what you're judging him on. Quite possible he will never even make it to 10 due to the state of his hamstring. You picked a poor example. There are others for sure who have had chances to live up to their underage billing and have failed to do so. It is hard for young players to come in and preform in an unstable environment though.
The bit shit comment is typical of Syferus, he should know Roscommon have the same problems whereby their underage players may never fulfil their potential due to their continued unstable environment at senior level.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on March 31, 2017, 11:00:06 PM
Big day for Sligo tomorrow. We will tighten Galway but itll be a stretch to beat them. Galway are likely to be the only team that could question Kerry
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: magpie seanie on April 01, 2017, 12:06:41 AM
Yeah. Hoping we can somehow do it but fully aware this is a really good Galway side. We're not bad and actually have a wee bit of depth so if things aren't going well we can and should act quickly. Raging to be missing it but can't be helped.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on April 01, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Will this game be on ocean fm?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 01, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Will this game be on ocean fm?

TG4 streaming it online
Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on April 01, 2017, 02:02:29 PM
Should be able to watch the game here from 6-00pm.
Go about half way down the page.


http://www.tg4.ie/ga/beo/connacht-f21/
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on April 01, 2017, 03:58:56 PM
Thanks lads, hopefully we can give them a decent game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
Stream not working yet for me, anyone get it going
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EFdQt6Kuzs

TG4 falling down on the job

https://www.oceanfm.ie/live-stream/

Sligo 0-3 Galway 0-0 after 5 minutes
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EFdQt6Kuzs

TG4 falling down on the job

https://www.oceanfm.ie/live-stream/

Sligo 0-3 Galway 0-0 after 5 minutes

Not like TG4 to balls things up.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
GAABoard's golden child falling on its face, on April Fool's of all days. Perfect.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 01, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
GAABoard's golden child falling on its face, on April Fool's of all days. Perfect.
Do you feel better for spouting that bile.
You should be more worried about your hero's falling on his face and dragging Ros football down with him.
You really are an annoying individual.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 01, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
GAABoard's golden child falling on its face, on April Fool's of all days. Perfect.
Do you feel better for spouting that bile.
You should be more worried about your hero's falling on his face and dragging Ros football down with him.
You really are an annoying individual.

I know it's hard for you, but try to stay on topic.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:27:06 PM
Sligo 0.05 Galway 0.02.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 06:27:15 PM
Disappointing they didn't even stick something up on twitter or their page to say they were having problems.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:28:44 PM
Goal for Sligo
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Looks like we pissed away another Connacht title..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 06:31:05 PM
Sligo 1-07 Galway 0-02


Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Crete Boom on April 01, 2017, 06:31:12 PM
Sounds like Galway didn't learn from the Mayo game and the fullback line been roasted by direct ball in. Sounds like Sligo got away with a black card!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 06:31:27 PM
Sligo 1-7 Galway 0-2

Sligo have the wind but they are making good use of it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:33:09 PM
It would be something very special if Sligo won their first Connacht U21 at the very last chance.

Hopefully they can hold their nerve against the wind. They'll be battling history and the elements.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:33:53 PM
Sounds like a cracker with Sligo ahead 1.07 to 0.05 at HT
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Looks like we pissed away another Connacht title..

No ye were bet by a better team by all accounts, why can you not accept that?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 06:36:00 PM
O'Laoi off injured for Galway. Daly apparently injured too but he's trying to play on.They won't want to take him off unless he's completely banjaxed.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Looks like we pissed away another Connacht title..

No ye were bet by a better team by all accounts, why can you not accept that?
You may as well argue with a rock as argue with Syfin.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Looks like we pissed away another Connacht title..

No ye were bet by a better team by all accounts, why can you not accept that?
You may as well argue with a rock as argue with Syfin.

Mayo produced the most pitiful performance of all the Connacht counties this year despite returning the Super Solans and half an AI winning squad..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
https://twitter.com/sligogaa  is good for updates

Match is live here
http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-tv/live-watch-the-eirgrid-u21-connacht-football-final-throw-6pm/
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:43:39 PM
I know I shouldnt but who is talking about Mayo or  Ros for that matter.Galway with the breeze for the 2ind half.I hope Sligo go for it and not try to shut up shop and  hold what they already have.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 01, 2017, 06:45:30 PM
link up and running
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 06:46:04 PM
Sligo getting numbers behind the ball and hitting on the break. Effectively. Can't see that game plan changing against the wind.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 06:47:30 PM
Link is back up on Tg4
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 06:55:46 PM
Galway have scored 1-1 in a minute
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 06:56:48 PM
Level
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 01, 2017, 06:56:56 PM
Level now and Seàn Bàn getting very excited.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:06:18 PM
Galway by a point now
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:06:23 PM
Sligo 1-10 Galway 1-11

Score for score at the moment

Michael Daly been superb the 2nd half.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
7 point turnaround is pretty decent
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:17:47 PM
Penalty for Sligo. Some controversy.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:19:08 PM
Galway keeper off injured.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:20:34 PM
Sligo 2-12 Galway 1-14

Galway completely on top the 2nd half but a quick 1-2 from Sligo has them ahead.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:21:58 PM
Haslem is Galway last sub with about ten mins left to go, the gang on the sideline really aren't helping matters. Taking off Colin Brady after scoring a point was also ridiculous.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:21:58 PM
Haslem is Galway last sub with about ten mins left to go, the gang on the sideline really aren't helping matters. Taking off Colin Brady after scoring a point was also ridiculous.

60 minutes game at U21
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:21:58 PM
Haslem is Galway last sub with about ten mins left to go, the gang on the sideline really aren't helping matters. Taking off Colin Brady after scoring a point was also ridiculous.

60 minutes game at U21

Yes and there was about 5 mins normal time to go and about 5 mins injury time.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:26:17 PM
Daly is excellent but shur where would he lave it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:28:55 PM
Talk about playing for a draw. Ref was waiting for it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
A draw.
Sligo didn't deserve it really
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 01, 2017, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
A draw.
Sligo didn't deserve it really

Deserve has nothing to do with it (take it from a Mayo man)!.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 01, 2017, 07:32:22 PM
ET to be played.Sligo deserved the draw but still hard to see past Galway
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:32:54 PM
What a stupid, cheap free to give away. On another point, why is there always so much confusion about extra time when it comes to games like these?!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 01, 2017, 07:33:31 PM
He must have given Sligo 3 times as many free's as he did Galway in that 2nd half.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: blanketattack on April 01, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
I expect the winners after extra time will beat Kerry. Kerry will be going into AI Semi completely untested while Galway or Sligo will have gained huge experience after today.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 01, 2017, 07:34:20 PM
Thought we kinda did, mind you considering all the times we lost finals we should have won at various levels then it'd be nice to see it turned around. Fair play to the lads for not giving up especially after such a bad start to the second half and being four down late on.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: UpMeeyo on April 01, 2017, 07:34:52 PM
Why are we getting rid of this competition with games like this...
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Crete Boom on April 01, 2017, 07:35:44 PM
Good game.Kyle Cawley and Michael Daly are top class.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 01, 2017, 07:33:31 PM
He must have given Sligo 3 times as many free's as he did Galway in that 2nd half.

Galway's can't really blame the ref imo - their tackling/defending was shocking -


Based on the Cork game, Kerry's forwards would make mincemeat out of the Galway defence.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: UpMeeyo on April 01, 2017, 07:34:52 PM
Why are we getting rid of this competition with games like this...

Paudric Duffy.

Gwan Sligo.. end the grade on the high note it deserves.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:39:00 PM
Michael Daly and Cillian McDaid were fantastic but yet again our defence is a huge problem area. Wouldn't have taken off Paul Mannion or Colin Brady either. Hopefully they do it in extra time.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: UpMeeyo on April 01, 2017, 07:34:52 PM
Why are we getting rid of this competition with games like this...
Cos minor has become under 17
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 07:46:34 PM
Goal for Galway
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:49:57 PM
Wind has died down

Sligo 2-14 Galway 3-18
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 01, 2017, 07:52:40 PM
And that's that.  :'(
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 07:55:34 PM
Mirror of the minor final two years ago - drawn and then in the replay (or extra time in this case) Galway drive on. Sad end to one of the best championships in football at any grade.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?

Son.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?

Son.

Nothing to Pete, we got him from Mayo, Anthony Finnerty's son!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:57:46 PM
2-3 without reply from Galway seems to have finally decided it bar a huge Sligo comeback.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?

Son.

Nothing to Pete, we got him from Mayo, Anthony Finnerty's son!

Feck it I knew that  :-[
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 01, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
Galway walking away with it now.

Don't think they can have much complaints about the ref in the second half, brought it on themselves with poor tackles, cynical fouls and trying to kill the clock.

Galway should give Kerry a good game from what I've seen.

Feel Donegal will give it a great crack if they get out of Ulster, I'd say they have the most physically developed side of the teams in it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
Amazing. The genes never lie. (even if its a different code !)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
Quote from: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?

Son of Anthony Finnerty of Mayo fame.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: MayoBuck on April 01, 2017, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?

Rob finnerty, number 13, is son of Anthony.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 08:00:31 PM
Ahh ! That explains it better. (sorry, genuinely didn't know) the da Anthony could finish too mind.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:01:42 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
Quote from: dúnros on April 01, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
The two forwards for Galway, with the luminous boots, are some ballers.
Micháel Daly son of Val, is very like his Da, hugely skillful but intelligent with it. The Finnerty lad is hardly anything to Pete I take it ?

Son of Anthony Finnerty of Mayo fame.
Larry Og
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Galway will be well battle hardened going into the Kerry game anyway. Lot of talented footballers in that team but they haven't put a consistent 60 minutes together yet. Mayo game was probably the closest they got. Have spells where they look irresistible and spells where they switch off. Needless to say will need more of the former against Kerry.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 01, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
Galway walking away with it now.

Don't think they can have much complaints about the ref in the second half, brought it on themselves with poor tackles, cynical fouls and trying to kill the clock.

Galway should give Kerry a good game from what I've seen.

Feel Donegal will give it a great crack if they get out of Ulster, I'd say they have the most physically developed side of the teams in it.

I can't see Galway being secure enough at the back to beat Kerry - the Sligo attack looks ordinary enough and Sligo have been a good bit behind Galway in terms of the amount of possession they have, yet still scored 2-14. I think if Kerry are to be beaten it will be in the final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 01, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 01, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
Galway walking away with it now.

Don't think they can have much complaints about the ref in the second half, brought it on themselves with poor tackles, cynical fouls and trying to kill the clock.

Galway should give Kerry a good game from what I've seen.

Feel Donegal will give it a great crack if they get out of Ulster, I'd say they have the most physically developed side of the teams in it.

I can't see Galway being secure enough at the back to beat Kerry - the Sligo attack looks ordinary enough and Sligo have been a good bit behind Galway in terms of the amount of possession they have, yet still scored 2-14. I think if Kerry are to be beaten it will be in the final.
u21 is quite unpredictable. In either 2011 or 2013 Cork were unbackable as favourites and Galway beat them in the semi.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 08:12:00 PM
Hard luck Sligo. Thought ye had it at one point there.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Young Finnerty is an example of how the economic situation is influencing the game. Co. Galway has had population growth in the last 20 years. Mayo has recently had population decline. Sligo has a much smaller population. The son of a Mayo footballer plays for Galway but not as easy to see the reverse happening. There are more jobs in Galway.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Young Finnerty is an example of how the economic situation is influencing the game. Co. Galway has had population growth in the last 20 years. Mayo has recently had population decline. Sligo has a much smaller population. The son of a Mayo footballer plays for Galway but not as easy to see the reverse happening. There are more jobs in Galway.

Why are Galway shite, then?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 01, 2017, 08:19:32 PM
McDaid was outstanding, he kicked points of both feet. He looked very comfortable playing in the half back line, lets hope he stays away from the aussie rules.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 01, 2017, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 01, 2017, 08:19:32 PM
McDaid was outstanding, he kicked points of both feet. He looked very comfortable playing in the half back line, lets hope he stays away from the aussie rules.

Yeah him, Daly, Finnerty and Cooke look the pick of the bunch. All should be top class players for Galway further down the line. Well Daly is getting there already.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on April 01, 2017, 08:24:10 PM
Very good game and commiserations to Sligo, put up a great battle there through the 2nd half of normal time to eek out a draw.

Improvement needed for the semi but we seem to go into most of them as underdogs anyway and usually surprise a few people!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Crete Boom on April 01, 2017, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Young Finnerty is an example of how the economic situation is influencing the game. Co. Galway has had population growth in the last 20 years. Mayo has recently had population decline. Sligo has a much smaller population. The son of a Mayo footballer plays for Galway but not as easy to see the reverse happening. There are more jobs in Galway.

Yeah it's tough for the time being Seafoid but maybe one day we might have a government who actually implements the national spatial strategy!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on April 01, 2017, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Young Finnerty is an example of how the economic situation is influencing the game. Co. Galway has had population growth in the last 20 years. Mayo has recently had population decline. Sligo has a much smaller population. The son of a Mayo footballer plays for Galway but not as easy to see the reverse happening. There are more jobs in Galway.

Yeah it's tough for the time being Seafoid but maybe one day we might have a government who actually implements the national spatial strategy!
Or a new economic system
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 09:15:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Young Finnerty is an example of how the economic situation is influencing the game. Co. Galway has had population growth in the last 20 years. Mayo has recently had population decline. Sligo has a much smaller population. The son of a Mayo footballer plays for Galway but not as easy to see the reverse happening. There are more jobs in Galway.

Why are Galway shite, then?
Both teams reached 2 finals recently

2014
Dublin 1-21
Roscommon 3-6

2013
Galway 1-14
Cork 1-11

2012
Dublin 2-12
Roscommon 0-11

2011
Galway 2-16
Cavan 1-9
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 01, 2017, 09:48:09 PM
Credit to both teams on a cracking final, wouldn't have begrudged Sligo in the slightest if they'd won it but I think the marginally better overall team took home the cup.
Don't think they'll beat Kerry unless there's a big improvement in keeping the opposition score down but they'll be huge underdogs against one of the most fancied teams at this level for a long while, so nothing to lose at this stage either.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Crete Boom on April 01, 2017, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on April 01, 2017, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Young Finnerty is an example of how the economic situation is influencing the game. Co. Galway has had population growth in the last 20 years. Mayo has recently had population decline. Sligo has a much smaller population. The son of a Mayo footballer plays for Galway but not as easy to see the reverse happening. There are more jobs in Galway.

Yeah it's tough for the time being Seafoid but maybe one day we might have a government who actually implements the national spatial strategy!
Or a new economic system

That's coming down the line soon as well Seaf.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on April 01, 2017, 10:27:16 PM
Good effort from our lads - tired of moral victories but we are on the up and the future is brighter than it has been for a long time. Congrats to galway
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 01, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Just in from the game. Gutted by the result but very proud of the boys. We had it in normal time but let it slip and in fairness we were lucky to snatch the draw only for a silly foul by the Galway no.2.
Our lack of strength in depth showed in extra time. Some of our lads were dead on their feet.

Based on tonight Galway were not the best team we've played this year. That was Cavan, who are a very very good side. We beat Donegal twice and beat Dublin Mayo and Tyrone. The future is bright.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 01, 2017, 10:37:17 PM
William Finnerty who came on as a sub near the end of extra time is a brother of Rob also.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 01, 2017, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: ck on April 01, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Just in from the game. Gutted by the result but very proud of the boys. We had it in normal time but let it slip and in fairness we were lucky to snatch the draw only for a silly foul by the Galway no.2.
Our lack of strength in depth showed in extra time. Some of our lads were dead on their feet.

Based on tonight Galway were not the best team we've played this year. That was Cavan, who are a very very good side. We beat Donegal twice and beat Dublin Mayo and Tyrone. The future is bright.

You need to stop judging a team on what happens in challenge games, a pointless exercise. Sligo weren't favourites to reach Connacht final and few fancied them to be competitive today but Sligo achieved both.

As for Galway they won a provincial title with average manager however Fahy v O Connor next looks like a total mismatch.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Seamus on April 01, 2017, 11:29:44 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned No 5 Kieran Molloy, I thought he was outstanding. Who got man of the match
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: Seamus on April 01, 2017, 11:29:44 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned No 5 Kieran Molly, I thought he was outstanding. Who got man of the match

He was fantastic, he's had a great year with Corofin too. Cillian McDaid got man of the match.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2017, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: Seamus on April 01, 2017, 11:29:44 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned No 5 Kieran Molly, I thought he was outstanding. Who got man of the match

He was fantastic, he's had a great year with Corofin too. Cillian McDaid got man of the match.

Seen him play for NUIG v Mayo in the FBD and Corofin v Mitchels. He looks so relaxed on the ball and a great reader of the game. Always looks like there is no panic and plays the game simple and very well.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 02, 2017, 12:57:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 02, 2017, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 01, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: Seamus on April 01, 2017, 11:29:44 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned No 5 Kieran Molly, I thought he was outstanding. Who got man of the match

He was fantastic, he's had a great year with Corofin too. Cillian McDaid got man of the match.

Seen him play for NUIG v Mayo in the FBD and Corofin v Mitchels. He looks so relaxed on the ball and a great reader of the game. Always looks like there is no panic and plays the game simple and very well.

And to top all that he also has fabulous hair!  :P
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:48:30 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 01, 2017, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: ck on April 01, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Just in from the game. Gutted by the result but very proud of the boys. We had it in normal time but let it slip and in fairness we were lucky to snatch the draw only for a silly foul by the Galway no.2.
Our lack of strength in depth showed in extra time. Some of our lads were dead on their feet.

Based on tonight Galway were not the best team we've played this year. That was Cavan, who are a very very good side. We beat Donegal twice and beat Dublin Mayo and Tyrone. The future is bright.

You need to stop judging a team on what happens in challenge games, a pointless exercise. Sligo weren't favourites to reach Connacht final and few fancied them to be competitive today but Sligo achieved both.

As for Galway they won a provincial title with average manager however Fahy v O Connor next looks like a total mismatch.

My biggest fear to be honest.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Quote from: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player

Ah yeah Daly is a mighty bit of stuff alright. He didn't lick it off a stone.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
Very small crowd there, entertaining game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 02, 2017, 10:04:04 AM
Under 21 is much more open than senior intercounty
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 02, 2017, 10:28:08 AM
There's a lot of good footballers on that Galway u21 team.
I would nearly fancy us against any of the remaining teams apart from the Kingdom.
I don't think we'll have enough to trouble them.
McDaid was exceptional yesterday.
He was very good against my own club in the championship last year.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 02, 2017, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Quote from: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player

Ah yeah Daly is a mighty bit of stuff alright. He didn't lick it off a stone.

He's a bit of a looper on the field, though?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 02, 2017, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 01, 2017, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: ck on April 01, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Just in from the game. Gutted by the result but very proud of the boys. We had it in normal time but let it slip and in fairness we were lucky to snatch the draw only for a silly foul by the Galway no.2.
Our lack of strength in depth showed in extra time. Some of our lads were dead on their feet.

Based on tonight Galway were not the best team we've played this year. That was Cavan, who are a very very good side. We beat Donegal twice and beat Dublin Mayo and Tyrone. The future is bright.

You need to stop judging a team on what happens in challenge games, a pointless exercise. Sligo weren't favourites to reach Connacht final and few fancied them to be competitive today but Sligo achieved both.

As for Galway they won a provincial title with average manager however Fahy v O Connor next looks like a total mismatch.

I think you'll find that I predicted a connacht final for Sligo. This was based on challenge matches and Hastings/NW Cup results. Challenge matches are very revealing at this level and results are very much in line with championship match results.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 02, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Is it try that the Ulster final winners will have to play the AI semi 3 days after their Ulster final due to all the replays and cancellations? That happened to cavan I think 5 yrs ago, it was actually the only semi we won. It is very unfair on the players.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 02, 2017, 09:03:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 02, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Is it try that the Ulster final winners will have to play the AI semi 3 days after their Ulster final due to all the replays and cancellations? That happened to cavan I think 5 yrs ago, it was actually the only semi we won. It is very unfair on the players.

Replays didnt impact. The only delay was Ulster semis being postposed last week, leaving Ulster a week behind the rest. Ulster council appear to have planned it all very badly cos even without last weeks farce, they were always going to be behind. Advantage, Kerry and Dublin!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 02, 2017, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 02, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
Very small crowd there, entertaining game.
A lot of Sligo people tend to opt for the terrace where the camera was situated, especially with the decent evening that it was. That stand doesn't provide the greatest of views either to be honest. Disappointing in the end but they gave it everything, but the better team got through I guess.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 02, 2017, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: ck on April 02, 2017, 09:03:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 02, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Is it try that the Ulster final winners will have to play the AI semi 3 days after their Ulster final due to all the replays and cancellations? That happened to cavan I think 5 yrs ago, it was actually the only semi we won. It is very unfair on the players.

Replays didnt impact. The only delay was Ulster semis being postposed last week, leaving Ulster a week behind the rest. Ulster council appear to have planned it all very badly cos even without last weeks farce, they were always going to be behind. Advantage, Kerry and Dublin!

Yup it was shocking planning by the Ulster council.
Will probably be more to Dublin's advantage as there is 2 weeks between the semi-final and the final and the winners of Ulster are playing Connacht
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 03, 2017, 07:07:10 AM
Ulster playing Leinster I thought
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: magpie seanie on April 03, 2017, 08:35:34 AM
Absolutely gutted that we came so close and yet again missed out on a provincial title at this grade. Well done to our lads though who gave it everything. This is a good group of players we have coming through and I'm looking forward to their development. There is a lot of good work being done in Sligo at underage and I think that should be acknowledged. Paul Taylor had a lot of doubters in Sligo but seems to have done a good job with this side....hope he can also develop as a manager because I think we need a Sligo man at the helm to progress.

Congrats to Galway. Ye seem to have an uncanny knack of having a really good team when we have good sides ourselves. Should be a cracking semi against Kerry.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 03, 2017, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: ck on April 02, 2017, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 01, 2017, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: ck on April 01, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Just in from the game. Gutted by the result but very proud of the boys. We had it in normal time but let it slip and in fairness we were lucky to snatch the draw only for a silly foul by the Galway no.2.
Our lack of strength in depth showed in extra time. Some of our lads were dead on their feet.

Based on tonight Galway were not the best team we've played this year. That was Cavan, who are a very very good side. We beat Donegal twice and beat Dublin Mayo and Tyrone. The future is bright.


You need to stop judging a team on what happens in challenge games, a pointless exercise. Sligo weren't favourites to reach Connacht final and few fancied them to be competitive today but Sligo achieved both.

As for Galway they won a provincial title with average manager however Fahy v O Connor next looks like a total mismatch.

I think you'll find that I predicted a connacht final for Sligo. This was based on challenge matches and Hastings/NW Cup results. Challenge matches are very revealing at this level and results are very much in line with championship match results.


As you can see here I was more or less predicting a Sligo v Galway final with the tribesmen winning it back in December. Wouldnt shout it from the roof tops though as it was fairly predictable

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27578.msg1654521#msg1654521

I was basing it on minor championship results the last few years and the strength of each panel. The Roscommon team Sligo beat a few weeks ago were missing the majority of their 2014 minor team (the only decent minor team they had the last three years) so drawing with Galway in normal time was a far more impressive performance.

Challenge games are pointless teams would be better off playing A V B games in training than playing any challenge.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on April 03, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on April 02, 2017, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 02, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
Very small crowd there, entertaining game.
A lot of Sligo people tend to opt for the terrace where the camera was situated, especially with the decent evening that it was. That stand doesn't provide the greatest of views either to be honest. Disappointing in the end but they gave it everything, but the better team got through I guess.
I was at it. Small crowd on that terrace, shame. More entertainment there than we might see for a good few months of the summer.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 03, 2017, 04:21:31 PM
D'Arcy made a huge impact when he came on, you'd have to think he'll start the next day after a performance like that.

Is Dylan Wall injured?

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Westside on April 03, 2017, 05:57:22 PM
The Ulster Final is fixed for next Monday night. So the Ulster teams have to win 3 games in 10 days to get to an All Ireland Final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thebackbar1 on April 04, 2017, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 02, 2017, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Quote from: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player

Ah yeah Daly is a mighty bit of stuff alright. He didn't lick it off a stone.

He's a bit of a looper on the field, though?
Sees to have quieten down a lot this year.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 04, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on April 04, 2017, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 02, 2017, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Quote from: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player

Ah yeah Daly is a mighty bit of stuff alright. He didn't lick it off a stone.

He's a bit of a looper on the field, though?
Sees to have quieten down a lot this year.

Got red carded in a few big games down the years but he was very young. In fairness I think he was unlucky on a couple of occasions. The sending off in the 2014 Connacht minor final was meant to have been fairly harsh. You'd imagine (and hope) it's something he'll grow out of with maturity.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: PW Nally on April 04, 2017, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 04, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on April 04, 2017, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 02, 2017, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Quote from: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player

Ah yeah Daly is a mighty bit of stuff alright. He didn't lick it off a stone.

He's a bit of a looper on the field, though?
Sees to have quieten down a lot this year.

Got red carded in a few big games down the years but he was very young. In fairness I think he was unlucky on a couple of occasions. The sending off in the 2014 Connacht minor final was meant to have been fairly harsh. You'd imagine (and hope) it's something he'll grow out of with maturity.
On a yellow that day and never calmed down, don't think was harsh. Was through few times for goals and pulled wide or great saves from Flanagan in goals. Big win for Mayo against the head that day, Galway traditionally the team that won with less possession. Daly has serious ability, his brother John is younger?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 04, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on April 04, 2017, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 04, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on April 04, 2017, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 02, 2017, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Quote from: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
Would agree  with everyone about Molloy.Would see him as a definite senior player,so athletic and  unruffled on the ball.Looks like Michael Daly will be tormenting us here in Mayo for the next few years.A very impressive player

Ah yeah Daly is a mighty bit of stuff alright. He didn't lick it off a stone.

He's a bit of a looper on the field, though?
Sees to have quieten down a lot this year.

Got red carded in a few big games down the years but he was very young. In fairness I think he was unlucky on a couple of occasions. The sending off in the 2014 Connacht minor final was meant to have been fairly harsh. You'd imagine (and hope) it's something he'll grow out of with maturity.
On a yellow that day and never calmed down, don't think was harsh. Was through few times for goals and pulled wide or great saves from Flanagan in goals. Big win for Mayo against the head that day, Galway traditionally the team that won with less possession. Daly has serious ability, his brother John is younger?
Yes he's younger, generally a defender too I think. Did his cruciate last year as far as I know, hopefully he'll come back from that alright.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 04, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
Yeah John would have been on that minor team last year for sure were it not for injury.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 08:11:46 PM
Donegal 0-6 Cavan 0-3 after 10 minutes!

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 08:18:10 PM
9-3 Donegal after 16
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 08:24:08 PM
11-3 after 20.

9 unanswered points for Donegal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 08:36:12 PM
13-6 at the half. Cavan get a couple of late points.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 08:52:24 PM
Donegal get 1-1 to start the second half.

1-14 to 0-6
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ardchieftain on April 05, 2017, 08:56:44 PM
Armagh 1.06 Derry 0.8 HT

Oisin O'Neil with the goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
1-16 to 0-7 13 mins into second.

Poor showing from Cavan so far.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 09:07:10 PM
2-16 to 0-8

A goal each from the Gaoth Dobhair men Carroll and Mulligan.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ardchieftain on April 05, 2017, 09:09:34 PM
Armagh 1.09 to Derry 0.10 15mins gone in 2nd
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
Cavan team has a history of bottlers and so it proves again. Embarrassing score line.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 05, 2017, 09:25:24 PM
Finishes 3-17 to 0-13.

Double scores.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ardchieftain on April 05, 2017, 09:29:12 PM
Armagh v Derry - a draw
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ardchieftain on April 05, 2017, 09:31:42 PM
extra time
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Estimator on April 05, 2017, 10:08:37 PM
All over
Derry 0-21 Armagh 1-15
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: angermanagement on April 05, 2017, 10:22:37 PM
So do the Ulster Council fix the final for Omagh and risk another postponement.

Maybe best if teams tossed for home advantage.
Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on April 05, 2017, 10:22:57 PM
Monday night (10th April) for the Final it seems.
Don't be picking prone to water pitches for Semi Finals.
(Won't happen again anyway.)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: screenexile on April 05, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
Would the Dub not be an option??
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 05, 2017, 10:44:08 PM
Jesus SE you couldn't ask Donegal to come to Belfast. I think they'd prefer Celtic park or Owenbeg to the Dub. Likely be in Brewster.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: macdanger2 on April 06, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.

That's a seriously young team, will be interesting to see how they fare come the summer. On a somewhat related note, I was listening to the Crossmaglen piece on OTB podcast from last week - ten of their 1997 team were U21.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.

Blimey, that would be some going. Galway at most will only have one u21 starting come the summer and I'm not convinced Michael Daly is a certain starter. tg4 will be showing the Ulster final online, when is it?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on April 06, 2017, 11:38:24 AM
And we were all wondering was it crazy for Donegal to play their U21s in the McKenna cup and so many in the league.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Estimator on April 06, 2017, 11:45:54 AM
Looks like the U21 final is set for Armagh on Monday night.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 06, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.

That's a seriously young team, will be interesting to see how they fare come the summer. On a somewhat related note, I was listening to the Crossmaglen piece on OTB podcast from last week - ten of their 1997 team were U21.

The biggest issue for them would be the physical nature of championship football at the top level. Some of these lads will need another year or two before they are at full physical strength & the way Mayo bullied them in the second half last Sunday would lead me to believe that this summer might be a bit too soon for them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: StephenC on April 06, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
Disgraceful decision to bring the game to Armagh. How are people from Donegal supposed to finish up work and get there for 8pm?

Coin toss offered to Derry by Donegal but they refused to take it.  ::)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
They are obsessed with having all the finals in Armagh.  Ulster Club,  MacRrory,u21.

It might be fairly new, doesn't mean all finals should be there.  Cavan played Donegal there in 2014, out of the way for both teams.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on April 06, 2017, 01:17:54 PM
Some display by Donegal. Unreal to think that if the Tyrone player in the last minute of normal time in the drawn game had of fisted the ball over the bar rather than go for goal and miss then Donegal would more than likely have gone out and that would have been it for the underage career of many of their players. All about the inches.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: armaghniac on April 06, 2017, 02:00:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 06, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
They are obsessed with having all the finals in Armagh.  Ulster Club,  MacRrory,u21.

It might be fairly new, doesn't mean all finals should be there.  Cavan played Donegal there in 2014, out of the way for both teams.

Healy Park is the obvious location, but a shower of rain and it is under water.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 06, 2017, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 06, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.

That's a seriously young team, will be interesting to see how they fare come the summer. On a somewhat related note, I was listening to the Crossmaglen piece on OTB podcast from last week - ten of their 1997 team were U21.

The biggest issue for them would be the physical nature of championship football at the top level. Some of these lads will need another year or two before they are at full physical strength & the way Mayo bullied them in the second half last Sunday would lead me to believe that this summer might be a bit too soon for them.

I would think so. But from I've read and heard, most people are fairly patient and while hoping for a serious tilt at Ulster, aren't expecting too much this year.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Armamike on April 06, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 06, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.

That's a seriously young team, will be interesting to see how they fare come the summer. On a somewhat related note, I was listening to the Crossmaglen piece on OTB podcast from last week - ten of their 1997 team were U21.

I remember being at the final in 97 and on the way home someone mentioning that 10 of them were due to play an under 21 match the following week in the county championship. And that was excluding Oisin i think who just missed the grade by a few months i think (could be wrong).

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 06, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 06, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 06, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 06, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 06, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
Very impressive result from Donegal, how many of those u21's would expect to be in the starting 15 come the summer?

Hard to know how many will start but 16 of them featured at some stage during the league campaign & I'd say 5 or 6 of them would be nailed on starters with a number more on the bench.

That's a seriously young team, will be interesting to see how they fare come the summer. On a somewhat related note, I was listening to the Crossmaglen piece on OTB podcast from last week - ten of their 1997 team were U21.

I remember being at the final in 97 and on the way home someone mentioning that 10 of them were due to play an under 21 match the following week in the county championship. And that was excluding Oisin i think who just missed the grade by a few months i think (could be wrong).

Of the team that started the final there were 8 of us who had played in the u21s in that dames season but it was over before the final. Paddy McKeown, Francie, the twins, Anthony Cunningham, Cathal Short, Oisin and myself. Francie had 1 more year u21 the twins had 2. Of the squad itself there were 12 who were u21 that season
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 07, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Joe Brolly was in the stand the other night with an ear piece in and speaking to the Derry sideline via radio. Any Derry gaels on here can confirm if hes involved with the team?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on April 10, 2017, 08:32:28 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 06, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
They are obsessed with having all the finals in Armagh.  Ulster Club,  MacRrory,u21.

It might be fairly new, doesn't mean all finals should be there.  Cavan played Donegal there in 2014, out of the way for both teams.

Ulster Council love putting finals in Armagh for some reason. To bring Derry and Donegal to Armagh seems a crazy decision. What was wrong with Omagh?

Both Derry and Donegal have 4 or 5 seniors from NFL so should be a tight game
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: armaghniac on April 10, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on April 10, 2017, 08:32:28 AM

Ulster Council love putting finals in Armagh for some reason. To bring Derry and Donegal to Armagh seems a crazy decision. What was wrong with Omagh?

This is the problem with Omagh
(http://www.northernsound.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/Healyparkwet-300x198.jpg)

Now today might be dry, but that could not be easily predicted when setting the fixture and this fixture cannot be postponed.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
What does Ómaigh mean?
Flooding in Cork is logical cos the Irish, Corcaigh, means marshy.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 10, 2017, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 10, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on April 10, 2017, 08:32:28 AM

Ulster Council love putting finals in Armagh for some reason. To bring Derry and Donegal to Armagh seems a crazy decision. What was wrong with Omagh?

This is the problem with Omagh
(http://www.northernsound.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/Healyparkwet-300x198.jpg)

Now today might be dry, but that could not be easily predicted when setting the fixture and this fixture cannot be postponed.

Someone in Tyrone GAA needs to give Prunty a ring.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 10, 2017, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: ck on April 07, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Joe Brolly was in the stand the other night with an ear piece in and speaking to the Derry sideline via radio.

I'd say the mute button got plenty of use.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 10, 2017, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 10, 2017, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: ck on April 07, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Joe Brolly was in the stand the other night with an ear piece in and speaking to the Derry sideline via radio.

I'd say the mute button got plenty of use.

Joe Brolly was in the stand the other night with an ear piece in and was pretending to speak to the Derry sideline via radio.

;)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 10, 2017, 08:22:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBgHiADjZ1c

Link to the Ulster final
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on April 10, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
Some goal! What a run and control by Brennan!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 10, 2017, 08:34:52 PM
Cracking half of football.

McGee is a monster of a young lad.

Great stuff from Brennan for the goal.

Niall Keenan and McGuigan have been excellent for Derry.

Derry slightly unfortunate to find themselves 4 down, magic stuff from Brennan though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 10, 2017, 08:36:46 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on April 10, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
Some goal! What a run and control by Brennan!

No substitute for pace.

Last Derry defender made a bad choice to leave Connor unmarked - made the finish very easy for him.

Was very little between the two up until then - maybe Donegal looked a smidge better but the goal immediately followed by the point put Donegal in the box seat now.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
No harm to you all but that is not cracking football. Donegal have pace and strength and are catching Derry on the break. This crap of playing everyone behind the ball will destroy the game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on April 10, 2017, 08:39:09 PM
This looks like a cracking Donegal team, hard to believe that Tyrone should have dumped them out first day out in Omagh if Meenagh had have taken a certain point instead of going for goal!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 10, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
No harm to you all but that is not cracking football. Donegal have pace and strength and are catching Derry on the break. This crap of playing everyone behind the ball will destroy the game.

There's been some excellent scores and played at a great tempo.

1-15 between two sides in an even 30 minute a side half is very good going.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 10, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
A goal and point before the break gives Donegal a four point lead at half time.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 10, 2017, 08:43:14 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 10, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
No harm to you all but that is not cracking football. Donegal have pace and strength and are catching Derry on the break. This crap of playing everyone behind the ball will destroy the game.

There's been some excellent scores and played at a great tempo.

1-15 between two sides in an even 30 minute a side half is very good going.

I thought some of the marking overall was a bit loose especially in terms of pressure on the shooter. The intensity was a little below what I expected, but overall a very enjoyable watch.

However watching a game of ball on Monday is a rare treat - Could get used to it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 10, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
Derry not helping themselves with the amount of basic errors they are making in this second half.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:19:15 PM
Donegal strolling it now. Some quality sides left in the U-21 championship this year. The Dubs might actually be the weakest of the four left but hard to judge. No doubt Kerry and Donegal will be big favourites next Saturday though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:23:41 PM
F/T Donegal 3-17 Derry 0-13

Dubs next ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
Like Dublin in the Leinster final or Kerry in the Munster final that was a very comfortable provincial final win for Donegal. The four favourites won their provincial titles which goes to show again that bookies don't ride around on bicycles.

The 2014 minor All Ireland final was Kerry v Donegal it shouldn't come as any surprise if that's the same U21 final pairing in a few weeks.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
No harm to you all but that is not cracking football. Donegal have pace and strength and are catching Derry on the break. This crap of playing everyone behind the ball will destroy the game.

The crap of putting up posts like this is what is killing me.

Any game that has over 30 scores is fine by me & I suspect it is fine with the vast majority of GAA people.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 10, 2017, 09:31:10 PM
Donegal are a serious side.

Physically they are huge for an u21 squad, will Gillespie make the semi final?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 10, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
Like Dublin in the Leinster final or Kerry in the Munster final that was a very comfortable provincial final win for Donegal. The four favourites won their provincial titles which goes to show again that bookies don't ride around on bicycles.

The 2014 minor All Ireland final was Kerry v Donegal it shouldn't come as any surprise if that's the same U21 final pairing in a few weeks.

Are you taking the piss or are you not aware of how many bookies have hit the wall in recent years?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 10, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
Fair play Donegal. Serious side but jesus that is depressing to watch. It's just sprinters and recycle.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 10, 2017, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:19:15 PM
Donegal strolling it now. Some quality sides left in the U-21 championship this year. The Dubs might actually be the weakest of the four left but hard to judge. No doubt Kerry and Donegal will be big favourites next Saturday though.
The quality much higher this year.
From what i seen of Dublin they don't seem to have improved much from last year Leinster for one got weaker however such was the lower quality that they could easily have won the All Ireland last year.
The two All Ireland U21 semi finals last year were two of the best games i seen across all grades in 2016 i hope the two semi finals are just as good this weekend.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: StephenC on April 10, 2017, 09:48:17 PM
Great win for Donegal against a good Derry side. Derry were right in it but the first goal and the then red card made all the difference. Lightening pace across the whole Donegal team and a really, really high skill level. Will be very difficult to face Dublin with only 5 days of a break but hopefully they'll be able to get a good recovery done this week.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 10, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
Fair play Donegal. Serious side but jesus that is depressing to watch. It's just sprinters and recycle.

Honest to God I don't know what some people want.

Ye complain at defensive low scoring games, fair enough.

Now Donegal's last two games have had a combined scoreline of 6-34 to 0-26, that's 66 scores in two games & guess what ye are still complaining.

What exactly is it that ye want?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on April 10, 2017, 09:52:35 PM
Some amount of senior material in that Donegal team, big hoors!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
No harm to you all but that is not cracking football. Donegal have pace and strength and are catching Derry on the break. This crap of playing everyone behind the ball will destroy the game.

The crap of putting up posts like this is what is killing me.

Any game that has over 30 scores is fine by me & I suspect it is fine with the vast majority of GAA people.

This is where i totally disagree. Donegal probably have better players than Derry but persist in playing in such a setup. If Derry were to win they either had to get ahead to force Dinegal out or mirror their system and hope to sneak a win. A bit like the Tyrone v Donegal game last year. As it is Donegal got ahead and Derry had to key men blackcarded and continuously got caught on the break.

As for scoring. Armagh had 28 scores against Offaly last month. Was not much of a game though.

My opinion may annoy you but i still think it is valid.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 10, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
Like Dublin in the Leinster final or Kerry in the Munster final that was a very comfortable provincial final win for Donegal. The four favourites won their provincial titles which goes to show again that bookies don't ride around on bicycles.

The 2014 minor All Ireland final was Kerry v Donegal it shouldn't come as any surprise if that's the same U21 final pairing in a few weeks.

Are you taking the piss or are you not aware of how many bookies have hit the wall in recent years?

The bookies i require my odds from have a healthy surplus per year. Now run along onto some other thread where someone bored actually might entertain you some more with your with your know it all and tedious attitude
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 10:07:54 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 10, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
No harm to you all but that is not cracking football. Donegal have pace and strength and are catching Derry on the break. This crap of playing everyone behind the ball will destroy the game.

The crap of putting up posts like this is what is killing me.

Any game that has over 30 scores is fine by me & I suspect it is fine with the vast majority of GAA people.

This is where i totally disagree. Donegal probably have better players than Derry but persist in playing in such a setup. If Derry were to win they either had to get ahead to force Dinegal out or mirror their system and hope to sneak a win. A bit like the Tyrone v Donegal game last year. As it is Donegal got ahead and Derry had to key men blackcarded and continuously got caught on the break.

As for scoring. Armagh had 28 scores against Offaly last month. Was not much of a game though.

My opinion may annoy you but i still think it is valid.

I have no problem at all with you not enjoying the game, what I take issue with is this nonsense about the game being "destroyed".

Yesterday's league final between Dublin & Kerry was between two teams who got lots of players behind the ball & yet everyone is rhapsodizing about it today. The facts of the matter are that unless you get players behind the ball you are not going to win any game played at a serious level so every serious team does it.

Unless the rules are changed this is the way the game is going to be played. Yesterday was great entertainment, in fact the whole Div 1 this year was great with record crowds.

Destroyed? I don't think so.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 10, 2017, 11:20:48 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 10, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
Like Dublin in the Leinster final or Kerry in the Munster final that was a very comfortable provincial final win for Donegal. The four favourites won their provincial titles which goes to show again that bookies don't ride around on bicycles.

The 2014 minor All Ireland final was Kerry v Donegal it shouldn't come as any surprise if that's the same U21 final pairing in a few weeks.

Are you taking the piss or are you not aware of how many bookies have hit the wall in recent years?

The bookies i require my odds from have a healthy surplus per year. Now run along onto some other thread where someone bored actually might entertain you some more with your with your know it all and tedious attitude

Acquire. You're welcome.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Ball Hopper on April 11, 2017, 12:52:57 AM
Some info on minor All-Ireland Final teams and how they got on at U21 three years later...the 2014 minor final saw Kerry beat Donegal.



Since the U21 grade began in 1964, only 9 minor winning teams won the U21 three years later...Derry (1965-1968), Cork ('67-'70, '68-'71, '81-'84, and '91-'94), Mayo ('71-'74 and 2013-2016), Meath ('90-'93) and Tyrone (1998-2001).

Only twice did the same teams contest the minor and U21 three years later with the same team winning...1990/1993 (Meath beating Kerry) and 1991/1994 (Cork beating Mayo)

Only 5 times did the losing minor team win the U21 three years later...the year of U21 win listed here...1973 Kerry, 1986 and 1989 Cork, 2000 Tyrone and 2014 Dublin.

Only once did a minor losing finalist beat the team that they lost to in the minor final in the U21 final three years later...that being Cork beating Galway in 1989 U21 final after Galway beat Cork in the minor final of 1986.


Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 11, 2017, 09:07:37 AM
Bluestack - apologies if it came across as sour grapes. Certainly not. My only gripe will be how Hughes managed to see Shane McGuigan from the far sideline, but as we know Hughes has previous for these kind of calls.

Look Donegal are a serious side - hope they go on to win the A.I but I just wouldn't be a huge fan of their style of play. It's all runners and coming off shoulders, but hey its the way of the world nowadays so who am I to judge.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 11, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 10, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 10, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
Fair play Donegal. Serious side but jesus that is depressing to watch. It's just sprinters and recycle.

Honest to God I don't know what some people want.

Ye complain at defensive low scoring games, fair enough.

Now Donegal's last two games have had a combined scoreline of 6-34 to 0-26, that's 66 scores in two games & guess what ye are still complaining.

What exactly is it that ye want?

Like several other posters have commented they play turgid football and it is not enjoyable to watch. Surely you can understand that scoring heavily doesn't necessarily mean they play entertaining football?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 11, 2017, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 10, 2017, 09:31:10 PM
Donegal are a serious side.

Physically they are huge for an u21 squad, will Gillespie make the semi final?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/euro2m-worth-of-anabolic-steroids-seized-in-donegal-780915.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/euro2m-worth-of-anabolic-steroids-seized-in-donegal-780915.html)

???
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: yellowcard on April 11, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
Justy because Donegal have scored heavily does not mean that they play entertaining football. It is not an enjoyable style watching that safety first possession based game where the ball is constantly carried through the hand. However they are just better at it than most. It helps when the players carrying out the gameplan are good players. They are capable of running up big scores from fast counter attacks provided the opposition are not at a similar level and do not decide to engage in an arm wrestle. I think we will see another Kerry v Donegal U-21 final with a similar result to that at the minor grade 3 years ago. Donegal football appear to have managed the transition from the lossof so many key players at senior level really well and is in a good place though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: johnneycool on April 11, 2017, 11:04:48 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 11, 2017, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 10, 2017, 09:31:10 PM
Donegal are a serious side.

Physically they are huge for an u21 squad, will Gillespie make the semi final?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/euro2m-worth-of-anabolic-steroids-seized-in-donegal-780915.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/euro2m-worth-of-anabolic-steroids-seized-in-donegal-780915.html)

???


Other medicines, including human growth hormone and products for erectile dysfunction, were also found.

I suppose it never hampered Pele :)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 11, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
Justy because Donegal have scored heavily does not mean that they play entertaining football. It is not an enjoyable style watching that safety first possession based game where the ball is constantly carried through the hand. However they are just better at it than most. It helps when the players carrying out the gameplan are good players. They are capable of running up big scores from fast counter attacks provided the opposition are not at a similar level and do not decide to engage in an arm wrestle. I think we will see another Kerry v Donegal U-21 final with a similar result to that at the minor grade 3 years ago. Donegal football appear to have managed the transition from the lossof so many key players at senior level really well and is in a good place though.

Fair enough yellowcard, point taken & everyone to their own.

Its just that Donegal have taken huge flak over the years about being a "negative" & "defensive" team & now that we are playing a faster more positive & expansive game, guess what, we are still getting it in the neck.

Granted, Donegal teams don't engage in long foot passes to the same extent as Kerry do, Donegal teams never did & I have a feeling if we did try to do it we would be brutal at it. Its just not our way to play that style, but to criticise a super young team over one small aspect of their play when they do everything else so well is a bit much.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

I take it you didn't watch last night's game then.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 11, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Isn't Mayo's game about breaking lines and handpasses too? If anything Mayo play that game better than Donegal because their older and more physical players haven't retired yet.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

I take it you didn't watch last night's game then.

No I wasn't. Did I miss something new
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

I take it you didn't watch last night's game then.

No I wasn't. Did I miss something new

Its just that since this thread is about the U21 championship I thought you might at least have watched them before making derogatory comments.

All I can say is that Mayo must have some U21 team if scoring 6-34 in a provincial semi final & final can be regarded as "dung".
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: greatpoint on April 11, 2017, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

And here was me thinking 2013 and the two matches last year would have made the 2012 All-Ireland easier to get over!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 11, 2017, 07:54:06 PM
Semi finals this Saturday, April 15, 2017

Kingspan Breffni Pk
Dublin v Donegal
2:30pm
Referee: James Bermingham

Cusack Park, Ennis
Galway v Kerry
4:30pm
Referee: Brendan Cawley


Extra time if needed and both games will be live on TG4.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 11, 2017, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

I take it you didn't watch last night's game then.

No I wasn't. Did I miss something new

Its just that since this thread is about the U21 championship I thought you might at least have watched them before making derogatory comments.

All I can say is that Mayo must have some U21 team if scoring 6-34 in a provincial semi final & final can be regarded as "dung".

Where you at it
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 11, 2017, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

And here was me thinking 2013 and the two matches last year would have made the 2012 All-Ireland easier to get over!

Youre quoting me in this. You'll have to explain.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

Ignorant. Really. I bow to your superior knowledge. I think its pretty obvious from the scoreline Donegal were attacking last night. I never said they weren't but its not true to say they leave a lot of men up
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

Ignorant. Really. I bow to your superior knowledge. I think its pretty obvious from the scoreline Donegal were attacking last night. I never said they weren't but its not true to say they leave a lot of men up

Sorry but I actually watched the game. Did you? Yes they get a lot of men back at times but at others I counted 5 men ahead of the ball. They seem to rotate their gameplan well.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

Ignorant. Really. I bow to your superior knowledge. I think its pretty obvious from the scoreline Donegal were attacking last night. I never said they weren't but its not true to say they leave a lot of men up

Sorry but I actually watched the game. Did you? Yes they get a lot of men back at times but at others I counted 5 men ahead of the ball. They seem to rotate their gameplan well.

Wow. 5 ahead of the ball. No way. They've really come on since I last saw them. Don't get me wrong. I know some people may enjoy this kinda thing. Sure the Irish rugby team could attract 82000 into croke park. It's just not my cup of tea. Doesn't mean my opinion is ignorant.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:51:38 PM
Ignorant means making statements without knowing the facts. Exactly as you have done.
I hate defensive football and everything about it but was surprised to be entertained last night. The fact was that when Donegal attacked, by god they attacked. So did Derry in fairness.
Really looking firward to both semi finals.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: RedHandTom on April 12, 2017, 08:32:04 AM
I was at the Ulster final the other night and the difference in the teams was less than people might think. Derry had an attacking tactic that almost worked but Donegal were better organised and every player seemed to know exactly what they had to do. Donegal most certainly are going to be tough to beat but knowing Ulster underage football over past few years I think we are the weakest province in this age group. Tyrone did test Donegal but no-one else has. Dublin will ask bigger questions of them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 12, 2017, 09:00:10 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

Ignorant. Really. I bow to your superior knowledge. I think its pretty obvious from the scoreline Donegal were attacking last night. I never said they weren't but its not true to say they leave a lot of men up

Sorry but I actually watched the game. Did you? Yes they get a lot of men back at times but at others I counted 5 men ahead of the ball. They seem to rotate their gameplan well.

Wow. 5 ahead of the ball. No way. They've really come on since I last saw them. Don't get me wrong. I know some people may enjoy this kinda thing. Sure the Irish rugby team could attract 82000 into croke park. It's just not my cup of tea. Doesn't mean my opinion is ignorant.

Fair enough, but what is silly is to brand something as "dung" just because it is "not my cup of tea" & that is when you haven't even watched them!!

I'm not a great fan of sean nos singing, badminton or gymnastics, not my cup of tea if you like, but that doesn't mean I have to slag them off.  Every man to his own.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: greatpoint on April 12, 2017, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

Ignorant. Really. I bow to your superior knowledge. I think its pretty obvious from the scoreline Donegal were attacking last night. I never said they weren't but its not true to say they leave a lot of men up

Sorry but I actually watched the game. Did you? Yes they get a lot of men back at times but at others I counted 5 men ahead of the ball. They seem to rotate their gameplan well.

Wow. 5 ahead of the ball. No way. They've really come on since I last saw them. Don't get me wrong. I know some people may enjoy this kinda thing. Sure the Irish rugby team could attract 82000 into croke park. It's just not my cup of tea. Doesn't mean my opinion is ignorant.

Astounding ignorance. You surely must be trying to wind people up?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: DuffleKing on April 12, 2017, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: ck on April 11, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

They categorically do not "leave a lot of men up". Before anyone asks - I've seen them plenty. This is not a criticism in itself, just plain fact that they attack onto a single out and put forward in case anyone ever decided to kick the ball - which they don't.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.

Mayo for this League campaign have been one of the Market leaders in the foot pass. Under Roachford last year Mayo were encouraged to foot pass more. The goal against Tyrone in the league was from foot passing the ball.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.

Mayo for this League campaign have been one of the Market leaders in the foot pass. Under Roachford last year Mayo were encouraged to foot pass more. The goal against Tyrone in the league was from foot passing the ball.

Have you an actual quantifiable measure for that or is it a subjective opinion?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.

Mayo for this League campaign have been one of the Market leaders in the foot pass. Under Roachford last year Mayo were encouraged to foot pass more. The goal against Tyrone in the league was from foot passing the ball.

Have you an actual quantifiable measure for that or is it a subjective opinion?

Observation from all the games I have been at, there has been a lot (mountains of kick passes into Andy Moran). Also players like McLoughlin, Kirby, Boland, Nally, Durcan, Coen, Cillian are good foot Passers (kickers).

To our detriment we tried to play open foot passing game v Monahan and Cavan. They just set up the blanket and just picked us off!  It' was the right thing to do during the League. That's the time to find out what system tactics work for later on in the year. I think Management under-rated both teams to a degree, but hopefully the lessons learned can be used.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.

Mayo for this League campaign have been one of the Market leaders in the foot pass. Under Roachford last year Mayo were encouraged to foot pass more. The goal against Tyrone in the league was from foot passing the ball.

Have you an actual quantifiable measure for that or is it a subjective opinion?

Observation from all the games I have been at, there has been a lot (mountains of kick passes into Andy Moran). Also players like McLoughlin, Kirby, Boland, Nally, Durcan, Coen, Cillian are good foot Passers (kickers).

To our detriment we tried to play open foot passing game v Monahan and Cavan. They just set up the blanket and just picked us off!  It' was the right thing to do during the League. That's the time to find out what system tactics work for later on in the year. I think Management under-rated both teams to a degree, but hopefully the lessons learned can be used.

Most teams will utilise kick passes when they're on but putting a ball into a place it's likely to come straight back at you. The thing that annoys me about the commentary around defensive styles and negative tactics in the game is that it consistently neglects the route cause - the negativity and athleticism of modern day players. Teams will use kick passing but only as much as those they play against allow them to do so.

Players are so much fitter, faster, stronger now. If you play your traditional six defenders, two midfielders and six forwards today you will be destroyed. Imagine trying to defend a guy like Aidan O'Shea running through the middle at momentum with that much space, it's a goal chance every time. A guy with momentum on the run who has speed, size and power is going to just run through. Defensive football is a necessity now for competitiveness and to be honest there is not much between the top sides in the way they play the game, they just do it to varying levels of their attack/defence balance.

It's unfortunate in many ways but that's just a product of the times, it's a product of all sports really. How wold someone like George Best get on in football today against a whack of African lads chasing him all over the pitch.

Give me the 2011 AI semi-final between Dublin and Donegal over the massacres like the Tyrone - Cavan replay last year or the 2015 Connacht final between Mayo and Sligo. That is the kind of thing that will happen when weaker teams go out and try and play open football against a stronger team.

Kind of deviated off point but the reason the game has gone the way it is has not been down to defensive football, defensive football is the reaction to the dominance of pace, power and size - it's the only way certain teams can keep themselves competitive. You look at some players today who would have been top class 10-15 years ago. I look at lads like McCurry and Bradley for us and the talent is there to see but they're really going to struggle due to their size whereas in the past they would have lit big games up. It's no surprise that the best forwards around now are 6ft+ strong lads who can win their own ball - think of the likes of Geaney, McManus, McBrearty, Quinlavin etc.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on April 12, 2017, 11:45:30 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 12, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on April 12, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.

Mayo for this League campaign have been one of the Market leaders in the foot pass. Under Roachford last year Mayo were encouraged to foot pass more. The goal against Tyrone in the league was from foot passing the ball.

Have you an actual quantifiable measure for that or is it a subjective opinion?

Observation from all the games I have been at, there has been a lot (mountains of kick passes into Andy Moran). Also players like McLoughlin, Kirby, Boland, Nally, Durcan, Coen, Cillian are good foot Passers (kickers).

To our detriment we tried to play open foot passing game v Monahan and Cavan. They just set up the blanket and just picked us off!  It' was the right thing to do during the League. That's the time to find out what system tactics work for later on in the year. I think Management under-rated both teams to a degree, but hopefully the lessons learned can be used.

Most teams will utilise kick passes when they're on but putting a ball into a place it's likely to come straight back at you. The thing that annoys me about the commentary around defensive styles and negative tactics in the game is that it consistently neglects the route cause - the negativity and athleticism of modern day players. Teams will use kick passing but only as much as those they play against allow them to do so.

Players are so much fitter, faster, stronger now. If you play your traditional six defenders, two midfielders and six forwards today you will be destroyed. Imagine trying to defend a guy like Aidan O'Shea running through the middle at momentum with that much space, it's a goal chance every time. A guy with momentum on the run who has speed, size and power is going to just run through. Defensive football is a necessity now for competitiveness and to be honest there is not much between the top sides in the way they play the game, they just do it to varying levels of their attack/defence balance.

It's unfortunate in many ways but that's just a product of the times, it's a product of all sports really. How wold someone like George Best get on in football today against a whack of African lads chasing him all over the pitch.

Give me the 2011 AI semi-final between Dublin and Donegal over the massacres like the Tyrone - Cavan replay last year or the 2015 Connacht final between Mayo and Sligo. That is the kind of thing that will happen when weaker teams go out and try and play open football against a stronger team.

Kind of deviated off point but the reason the game has gone the way it is has not been down to defensive football, defensive football is the reaction to the dominance of pace, power and size - it's the only way certain teams can keep themselves competitive. You look at some players today who would have been top class 10-15 years ago. I look at lads like McCurry and Bradley for us and the talent is there to see but they're really going to struggle due to their size whereas in the past they would have lit big games up. It's no surprise that the best forwards around now are 6ft+ strong lads who can win their own ball - think of the likes of Geaney, McManus, McBrearty, Quinlavin etc.

So Peter Canavan the best forward you have seen play the game would also struggle in todays defensive minded and lack of space football?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on April 13, 2017, 12:03:45 AM
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Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
No, I'm not on the wind up and I cant understand why you are getting so hot under the collar. Like you've never heard anyone suggest that Donegal play shite football before. Now you may find this hard to believe but there are actually people in Donegal that agree with me. Yes they are happy to endure this kind of football if it brings a sniff of success but lets be honest. This is a bastardised version of rugby. Sometimes we have high scoring rugby matches, sometimes defensive games, but  no matter what, if you arent into rugby you wont give a damn if a team puts up 50 points.

But there are people in Donegal and also people around the country (mainly Tyrone) who disagree with me and that's fine too. Different people get enjoyment from different things. I believe that rules should have been brought in a few years ago to change the game and stop it turning out like this. People in more powerful positions then me have decided to leave things as they are. And that's also fine, it is doesn't change my opinion and it doesn't make my opinion ignorant just because its not the same as yours

And for those who want to say these comments are ignorant because I didn't see last nights game. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen the last couple of years but in particular the 2 times I've seen Donegal u21's this year and the 2 times I've seen Donegal seniors this year. I simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it. 

But I'm sure Declan Bonner or Rory Gallagher couldnt give two hoots about what I think and I suggest the sensitive souls on here have the same attitude and keep on enjoying it if its your things

For what it's worth, Mayo don't exactly use a lot of foot passing. They might be a bit more adventurous in leaving more attackers in the opposition half but they mainly rely on running the ball and fist passing. The key to their relative success in the past few years has been their physicality and athleticism. They only seem to have two players in their team who are comfortable with taking shots on with their weaker foot - Andy Moran and Lee Keegan.

So if you're wanting to come across as a purveyor of the game's skills and the way it should be played then look closer to home.

Mayo for this League campaign have been one of the Market leaders in the foot pass. Under Roachford last year Mayo were encouraged to foot pass more. The goal against Tyrone in the league was from foot passing the ball.

Have you an actual quantifiable measure for that or is it a subjective opinion?

Observation from all the games I have been at, there has been a lot (mountains of kick passes into Andy Moran). Also players like McLoughlin, Kirby, Boland, Nally, Durcan, Coen, Cillian are good foot Passers (kickers).

To our detriment we tried to play open foot passing game v Monahan and Cavan. They just set up the blanket and just picked us off!  It' was the right thing to do during the League. That's the time to find out what system tactics work for later on in the year. I think Management under-rated both teams to a degree, but hopefully the lessons learned can be used.

Most teams will utilise kick passes when they're on but putting a ball into a place it's likely to come straight back at you. The thing that annoys me about the commentary around defensive styles and negative tactics in the game is that it consistently neglects the route cause - the negativity and athleticism of modern day players. Teams will use kick passing but only as much as those they play against allow them to do so.

Players are so much fitter, faster, stronger now. If you play your traditional six defenders, two midfielders and six forwards today you will be destroyed. Imagine trying to defend a guy like Aidan O'Shea running through the middle at momentum with that much space, it's a goal chance every time. A guy with momentum on the run who has speed, size and power is going to just run through. Defensive football is a necessity now for competitiveness and to be honest there is not much between the top sides in the way they play the game, they just do it to varying levels of their attack/defence balance.

It's unfortunate in many ways but that's just a product of the times, it's a product of all sports really. How wold someone like George Best get on in football today against a whack of African lads chasing him all over the pitch.

Give me the 2011 AI semi-final between Dublin and Donegal over the massacres like the Tyrone - Cavan replay last year or the 2015 Connacht final between Mayo and Sligo. That is the kind of thing that will happen when weaker teams go out and try and play open football against a stronger team.

Kind of deviated off point but the reason the game has gone the way it is has not been down to defensive football, defensive football is the reaction to the dominance of pace, power and size - it's the only way certain teams can keep themselves competitive. You look at some players today who would have been top class 10-15 years ago. I look at lads like McCurry and Bradley for us and the talent is there to see but they're really going to struggle due to their size whereas in the past they would have lit big games up. It's no surprise that the best forwards around now are 6ft+ strong lads who can win their own ball - think of the likes of Geaney, McManus, McBrearty, Quinlavin etc.

So Peter Canavan the best forward you have seen play the game would also struggle in todays defensive minded and lack of space football?

Every forward will struggle in today's game but the bigger guys have a much better chance. Canavan was a fighter though and I don't think it would deter him or knock his confidence the way it might others, he'd find it more difficult but Canavan nearly always found a way, he nearly carried a team on his back to an All Ireland in 95.

If you're using it as a comparison to Gooch. I would say the mass defence game started with Donegal in 2011 and didn't really feed through to other counties until 2013 when others saw it could work so you're really looking at 3 years of Gooch's career where he may have had to intermittently deal with it. Kerry also made the decision in that time to withdraw him out the pitch and use him at 11 where he had more space and access to impact on the game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: J70 on April 13, 2017, 02:21:55 AM
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Quote from: criostlinn on April 11, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
Donegal style of football is absolute dung to watch. Its like a form of rugby league. Team moving up the field with ball in hand trying to break lines, recycling the ball, try to break the next line or force the opposition into giving away a cheap penalty. Yes, its getting them results but its horrid to watch and it forces teams they play against into a defensive system so they don't get caught on the break.

Bit of an ignorant statement this criostlinn. I watched the game on-line and thought Donegal were very attacking. They leave a lot of men up and attack with serious pace. Ok they get back but unlike the McGuinness era they get back rather than stay back. This u21 side is a very well organised unit but I can't see them having enough to stop the Dubs.

You think?

They had enough to stop them three years ago in the minor semi, albeit by the narrowest of margins.

We didn't "stay back" in the McGuinness era BTW, at least not after that first season. That team charged forward after turnovers, with backs constantly popping up with scores and assists, especially the likes of McGlynn and Anthony Thompson. Some of that football was a joy to watch, most notably the two AI semis they won.

As a gameplan, it became much less effective over the past two years as other teams adopted similar tactics and the players aged and lost much of their speed and fitness. Last year's Ulster Final was the nadir, when Tyrone simply sat on their 45 and watched us recycle endless, futile, handpassing exercises  back and forth across the field in the zone between the 45s before eventually turning the ball over and hitting US on the break. Hopefully now, with all these speedy, skillful youngsters, who are used to a bit of success from underage, the seniors will become a bit more expansive and potent. Rory Gallagher is on record this year as saying he wanted to get away from the defensive stuff a bit, as we weren't scoring enough to win these games anyway. He should use this year to work on that first and foremost.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.

So instead you start addressing points I didn't even make.
Right so ted. Stuggling a bit ? Not to worry. You'll get the hang of it
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 13, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.

So instead you start addressing points I didn't even make.
Right so ted. Stuggling a bit ? Not to worry. You'll get the hang of it

It's your use of the word "dung" to describe a style of play that you later refer to as "not my cup of tea" that marks your post out as silly.

If you had used the latter initially then there would have been no problem at all but using pejorative terms always leads to a negative reaction & that is what you got.

Being from Mayo you should be well aware of how this works. Your senior teams inability to get across the line in recent years has made them an object of ridicule with terms like "chokers" being used to describe all Mayo footballers.  Everyone knows this is unfair & I'm sure it must rankle, it would if it was me, so Mayo people like yourself should be careful with their careless, dismissive & yes ignorant comments.

Whatever about senior Donegal teams of the past this U21 team are most certainly not playing "dung" football, you might wish for more foot passing, fair enough, but that does not make it dung.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mrdeeds on April 13, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
Our club put up 2 18 the weekend in a league game. It was all quick handpassing of the shoulder and running good lines. Not a whole pile of kickpassing. But it was great to watch done at speed and precision.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 13, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.

So instead you start addressing points I didn't even make.
Right so ted. Stuggling a bit ? Not to worry. You'll get the hang of it

It's your use of the word "dung" to describe a style of play that you later refer to as "not my cup of tea" that marks your post out as silly.

If you had used the latter initially then there would have been no problem at all but using pejorative terms always leads to a negative reaction & that is what you got.

Being from Mayo you should be well aware of how this works. Your senior teams inability to get across the line in recent years has made them an object of ridicule with terms like "chokers" being used to describe all Mayo footballers.  Everyone knows this is unfair & I'm sure it must rankle, it would if it was me, so Mayo people like yourself should be careful with their careless, dismissive & yes ignorant comments.

Whatever about senior Donegal teams of the past this U21 team are most certainly not playing "dung" football, you might wish for more foot passing, fair enough, but that does not make it dung.

Jesus lads, ye are like the football team, so bloody defensive

I'll say it again. IN MY OPINION I think Donegal play a "dung" style of football. I could call it shite, boring, puke have your pick, but this is only my opinion. I've watched this U21 side and the way they play is no different to the senior team at the moment who IN MY OPINION play a "dung style of football. I don't like watching football been played so defensive and with so much hand passing and little kicking. IN MY OPINION Donegal are the worst offenders at this at the moment,  I feel as the years pass by and this style continues to morph we might as well drop the foot from the name and instead of heading to Australia for the compromise rules we might as well play in the Aviva against our D4 cousins

Great for you. You like watching GAA been played in this way and it has brought success to Donegal which no doubt increases your love for it but it doesn't mean we all have to like it.  I find it hilarious to see the boys from the hills getting so sensitive about the word dung like its the worst thing you've ever heard said about the style of football ye have been playing the last 6 years and continue to play at the moment at both senior and U21. Its fine defending your team and honour and make up bullshit at how great it is to see GAA been turned into a form of rugby but please spare use the false outrage over the term "dung"

But then again the logic across this board seems to be the same as social media in general. If I dont agree with you, get in a flap over something stupid and maybe mention the  amount of All Irelands your county has won or the length of time since they won one as this somehow decides how seriously your opinion can be taken.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 13, 2017, 09:34:28 PM
Fair enough criost, people see what they want to see I suppose. One man's dung is another man's feather pillow ...or something.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duckquay on April 13, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
If you have the players, it's fantastic to watch as mrdeeds alludes to above. Each to their own however it's amazing how much influence the media has on people's mindsets.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on April 13, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
If you have the players, it's fantastic to watch as mrdeeds alludes to above. Each to their own however it's amazing how much influence the media has on people's mindsets.

Each to there own indeed but I'll have a snipe at the lad who doesn't agree with me.  ::)
Yep. Its the meeja. They are the ones that are convincing us that we should prefer the kick to be kept in FOOTball
But as you said some people find FOOTball in its current guise fantastic. Maybe a change in the shape of the ball would convince me.
If Ireland gets the World Cup in 2023 we may as well just join the two codes.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 13, 2017, 11:10:22 PM
A fast hand passing movement the length of the field can be great to watch but if that's all a team ever does then it usually isn't entertaining as there's no variation. The problem with the massed defence is that it rules out kicking at all and now that teams have copped on to it, they don't ever kick and just hand pass laterally around it and that is awful to watch.

It was brilliant to watch Dublin and Kerry kick the ball in to their forward lines last Sunday even though some of it was easily turned over as it was adventurous and risky which is what makes football great. Last Sunday married the best of both the modern and past game and resulted in a brilliant spectacle. We need more teams to do that.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 13, 2017, 11:34:43 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 13, 2017, 11:10:22 PM
A fast hand passing movement the length of the field can be great to watch but if that's all a team ever does then it usually isn't entertaining as there's no variation. The problem with the massed defence is that it rules out kicking at all and now that teams have copped on to it, they don't ever kick and just hand pass laterally around it and that is awful to watch.

It was brilliant to watch Dublin and Kerry kick the ball in to their forward lines last Sunday even though some of it was easily turned over as it was adventurous and risky which is what makes football great. Last Sunday married the best of both the modern and past game and resulted in a brilliant spectacle. We need more teams to do that.

It's all a question of degree surely. To say that about any team that they never kick & just endlessly handpass laterally is simply factually not true & certainly isn't true of this Donegal U21 team.

As to the notion that a massed defence means no kicking, I don't know where you got that idea as the present Dublin team employ a massed defence to match anyone & Kerry, by your own admission kicked the ball into their forward line on many occasions last Sunday. The trick is that it has to be done at speed & that I believe is where many of the top counties, Donegal included are heading now.

Donegal showed Dublin that you need a proper defence in 2014 & Dublin have shown everyone else since how to marry mass defence & great attack together.

The game is evolving all the time & the notion of gong back to man to man defending is dead in the water. Nobody from U14 up does it anymore. I agree that last Sunday's game was great & I expect that that is the way the top teams will all try to play from here on in.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 13, 2017, 11:51:17 PM
Sorry BluestackBoy, I haven't seen much of Donegal's U21 team so nothing I say refers specifically to them. Of course all teams kick sometimes and of course massed defences doesn't mean it's never kicked but I think you know that I meant massed defences mean a kicking it into the forwards is much less common or successful.

However, I don't agree that Dublin employ the massed defence. I think supporters of teams who employ an extreme version of the massed defence want to claim everyone else does it when it's not true. Yes, the day of the 6 v 6 is over but that was never true anyway as midfielders and the odd half forward were often in defence since the 1970's anyway, just not in the organised way they are now. All teams certainly get more players back but Dublin played four up for a lot of the league final and Kerry played plenty up too. There was lots of one on one contests and the game was all the better for it.

I hate seeing teams dropping back into their own half, short kickouts and interminable handpassing. We saw some great high fielding, scores, defending and physicality last weekend and hopefully more teams will start trusting their defenders more. It's nonsense to say isolating defenders means you will concede huge scores. The game is the best in the world when played right.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 14, 2017, 12:17:11 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 13, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 13, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on April 13, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.

So instead you start addressing points I didn't even make.
Right so ted. Stuggling a bit ? Not to worry. You'll get the hang of it

It's your use of the word "dung" to describe a style of play that you later refer to as "not my cup of tea" that marks your post out as silly.

If you had used the latter initially then there would have been no problem at all but using pejorative terms always leads to a negative reaction & that is what you got.

Being from Mayo you should be well aware of how this works. Your senior teams inability to get across the line in recent years has made them an object of ridicule with terms like "chokers" being used to describe all Mayo footballers.  Everyone knows this is unfair & I'm sure it must rankle, it would if it was me, so Mayo people like yourself should be careful with their careless, dismissive & yes ignorant comments.

Whatever about senior Donegal teams of the past this U21 team are most certainly not playing "dung" football, you might wish for more foot passing, fair enough, but that does not make it dung.

Jesus lads, ye are like the football team, so bloody defensive

I'll say it again. IN MY OPINION I think Donegal play a "dung" style of football. I could call it shite, boring, puke have your pick, but this is only my opinion. I've watched this U21 side and the way they play is no different to the senior team at the moment who IN MY OPINION play a "dung style of football. I don't like watching football been played so defensive and with so much hand passing and little kicking. IN MY OPINION Donegal are the worst offenders at this at the moment,  I feel as the years pass by and this style continues to morph we might as well drop the foot from the name and instead of heading to Australia for the compromise rules we might as well play in the Aviva against our D4 cousins

Great for you. You like watching GAA been played in this way and it has brought success to Donegal which no doubt increases your love for it but it doesn't mean we all have to like it.  I find it hilarious to see the boys from the hills getting so sensitive about the word dung like its the worst thing you've ever heard said about the style of football ye have been playing the last 6 years and continue to play at the moment at both senior and U21. Its fine defending your team and honour and make up bullshit at how great it is to see GAA been turned into a form of rugby but please spare use the false outrage over the term "dung"

But then again the logic across this board seems to be the same as social media in general. If I dont agree with you, get in a flap over something stupid and maybe mention the  amount of All Irelands your county has won or the length of time since they won one as this somehow decides how seriously your opinion can be taken.

Youre embarressing yourself again. You say their u21s and seniors play the same style. I would disagree with this as i have seen both sides play and they contrast greatly. I saw u21s twice against my own county and saw their ability to change tactics midgame.
When have you seen them play exactly? Im genuinely interested to see how youve formed your opinion.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 12:29:53 AM
Quote from: Zulu on April 13, 2017, 11:51:17 PM
Sorry BluestackBoy, I haven't seen much of Donegal's U21 team so nothing I say refers specifically to them. Of course all teams kick sometimes and of course massed defences doesn't mean it's never kicked but I think you know that I meant massed defences mean a kicking it into the forwards is much less common or successful.

However, I don't agree that Dublin employ the massed defence. I think supporters of teams who employ an extreme version of the massed defence want to claim everyone else does it when it's not true. Yes, the day of the 6 v 6 is over but that was never true anyway as midfielders and the odd half forward were often in defence since the 1970's anyway, just not in the organised way they are now. All teams certainly get more players back but Dublin played four up for a lot of the league final and Kerry played plenty up too. There was lots of one on one contests and the game was all the better for it.

I hate seeing teams dropping back into their own half, short kickouts and interminable handpassing. We saw some great high fielding, scores, defending and physicality last weekend and hopefully more teams will start trusting their defenders more. It's nonsense to say isolating defenders means you will concede huge scores. The game is the best in the world when played right.

As I said Zulu, it is all a question of degree. I personally witnessed Dublin with a massed defence in Ballybofey & saw it again on t.v. against Monaghan. One of the things I give Jim Gavin credit for is that he learns from his mistakes & the semi final in 2014 where Dublin were torn apart was a huge learning experience  & they have been a far more formidable unit since. Neither might I add has there been any more guff from them about "playing the game as it should be played".
I agree that Donegal were at the extreme end of the defensive philosophy under JMcG, to the detriment of their attack, but Rory Gallagher has changed things quite a bit this year & they are a more balanced team now.
They will never be a big foot passing team, that is not how football is played in Donegal, but in all the other attributes of Gaelic football they will lay second to no one.
Here's looking forward to a great game on Sat & a big summer of good football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Throw ball on April 14, 2017, 12:46:18 AM
It may not be entirely relevant but during Geezers first 2 years managing Armagh for the most part played a very defensive system. To quote another poster it was ' dung' to watch. The team and management got the message that it wasn't very popular with supporters. They were also not very good at it! For the most part this year they have played a more offensive game with more kicking. Again it hasn't brought success so far but it has been entertaining. Funnily even though they failed to gain promotion criticism has been more limited.
I can honestly say that as a neutral I did not enjoy the way Donegal played on Monday. They are efficient at what they do and I will be supporting them on Saturday but it is not the type of Gaelic football I enjoy.

Well at least I didn't see any diving!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 14, 2017, 12:47:57 AM
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Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.

So instead you start addressing points I didn't even make.
Right so ted. Stuggling a bit ? Not to worry. You'll get the hang of it

It's your use of the word "dung" to describe a style of play that you later refer to as "not my cup of tea" that marks your post out as silly.

If you had used the latter initially then there would have been no problem at all but using pejorative terms always leads to a negative reaction & that is what you got.

Being from Mayo you should be well aware of how this works. Your senior teams inability to get across the line in recent years has made them an object of ridicule with terms like "chokers" being used to describe all Mayo footballers.  Everyone knows this is unfair & I'm sure it must rankle, it would if it was me, so Mayo people like yourself should be careful with their careless, dismissive & yes ignorant comments.

Whatever about senior Donegal teams of the past this U21 team are most certainly not playing "dung" football, you might wish for more foot passing, fair enough, but that does not make it dung.

Jesus lads, ye are like the football team, so bloody defensive

I'll say it again. IN MY OPINION I think Donegal play a "dung" style of football. I could call it shite, boring, puke have your pick, but this is only my opinion. I've watched this U21 side and the way they play is no different to the senior team at the moment who IN MY OPINION play a "dung style of football. I don't like watching football been played so defensive and with so much hand passing and little kicking. IN MY OPINION Donegal are the worst offenders at this at the moment,  I feel as the years pass by and this style continues to morph we might as well drop the foot from the name and instead of heading to Australia for the compromise rules we might as well play in the Aviva against our D4 cousins

Great for you. You like watching GAA been played in this way and it has brought success to Donegal which no doubt increases your love for it but it doesn't mean we all have to like it.  I find it hilarious to see the boys from the hills getting so sensitive about the word dung like its the worst thing you've ever heard said about the style of football ye have been playing the last 6 years and continue to play at the moment at both senior and U21. Its fine defending your team and honour and make up bullshit at how great it is to see GAA been turned into a form of rugby but please spare use the false outrage over the term "dung"

But then again the logic across this board seems to be the same as social media in general. If I dont agree with you, get in a flap over something stupid and maybe mention the  amount of All Irelands your county has won or the length of time since they won one as this somehow decides how seriously your opinion can be taken.

Youre embarressing yourself again. You say their u21s and seniors play the same style. I would disagree with this as i have seen both sides play and they contrast greatly. I saw u21s twice against my own county and saw their ability to change tactics midgame.
When have you seen them play exactly? Im genuinely interested to see how youve formed your opinion.

Donegal u-21's and Donegal Senior play exactly the same style. Exactly the same. If you say different, its you who is embarrassing yourself and id suspect if you have seen them twice as you say you must be watching with your eyes closed. I've seen the u21's live twice, against Mayo and Cavan and just out of interest after all this ohhing and ahhing about this great attacking force I had a look at the Ulster Final. Guess what CK. No difference. It may as well be the same team that played against Mayo in Castlebar in the league.

I have no idea how Donegal set up against Sligo but your claims about how fantastic they were against Derry are complete nonsense. 

It would seem you've finally converted to this type of football and thats grand but don't be dressing it up as something it isn't. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: DuffleKing on April 14, 2017, 08:41:05 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 14, 2017, 12:47:57 AM
Quote from: ck on April 14, 2017, 12:17:11 AM
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Quote from: criostlinn on April 12, 2017, 05:44:07 PMI simply don't like this style of football and I don't like how the sport is turning out because of it.

It pains me to see so many words written with such little thought put into them.

So if it was just Donegal playing this style of football that you're morally opposed to you wouldn't have a problem with it?

As you've admitted yourself it's clearly prevalent with all the top teams, so can you explain why it's only Donegal that are damaging the sport? It must absolutely break you heart to see your own county forced to resort to that "style" to stay competitive.

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist just read my posts properly before compiling your response. You might find the experience a little less "painful"

I read it. If I was to address all the inconsistencies I'd be here till the next time Mayo win the All-Ireland.

So instead you start addressing points I didn't even make.
Right so ted. Stuggling a bit ? Not to worry. You'll get the hang of it

It's your use of the word "dung" to describe a style of play that you later refer to as "not my cup of tea" that marks your post out as silly.

If you had used the latter initially then there would have been no problem at all but using pejorative terms always leads to a negative reaction & that is what you got.

Being from Mayo you should be well aware of how this works. Your senior teams inability to get across the line in recent years has made them an object of ridicule with terms like "chokers" being used to describe all Mayo footballers.  Everyone knows this is unfair & I'm sure it must rankle, it would if it was me, so Mayo people like yourself should be careful with their careless, dismissive & yes ignorant comments.

Whatever about senior Donegal teams of the past this U21 team are most certainly not playing "dung" football, you might wish for more foot passing, fair enough, but that does not make it dung.

Jesus lads, ye are like the football team, so bloody defensive

I'll say it again. IN MY OPINION I think Donegal play a "dung" style of football. I could call it shite, boring, puke have your pick, but this is only my opinion. I've watched this U21 side and the way they play is no different to the senior team at the moment who IN MY OPINION play a "dung style of football. I don't like watching football been played so defensive and with so much hand passing and little kicking. IN MY OPINION Donegal are the worst offenders at this at the moment,  I feel as the years pass by and this style continues to morph we might as well drop the foot from the name and instead of heading to Australia for the compromise rules we might as well play in the Aviva against our D4 cousins

Great for you. You like watching GAA been played in this way and it has brought success to Donegal which no doubt increases your love for it but it doesn't mean we all have to like it.  I find it hilarious to see the boys from the hills getting so sensitive about the word dung like its the worst thing you've ever heard said about the style of football ye have been playing the last 6 years and continue to play at the moment at both senior and U21. Its fine defending your team and honour and make up bullshit at how great it is to see GAA been turned into a form of rugby but please spare use the false outrage over the term "dung"

But then again the logic across this board seems to be the same as social media in general. If I dont agree with you, get in a flap over something stupid and maybe mention the  amount of All Irelands your county has won or the length of time since they won one as this somehow decides how seriously your opinion can be taken.

Youre embarressing yourself again. You say their u21s and seniors play the same style. I would disagree with this as i have seen both sides play and they contrast greatly. I saw u21s twice against my own county and saw their ability to change tactics midgame.
When have you seen them play exactly? Im genuinely interested to see how youve formed your opinion.

Donegal u-21's and Donegal Senior play exactly the same style. Exactly the same. If you say different, its you who is embarrassing yourself and id suspect if you have seen them twice as you say you must be watching with your eyes closed. I've seen the u21's live twice, against Mayo and Cavan and just out of interest after all this ohhing and ahhing about this great attacking force I had a look at the Ulster Final. Guess what CK. No difference. It may as well be the same team that played against Mayo in Castlebar in the league.

I have no idea how Donegal set up against Sligo but your claims about how fantastic they were against Derry are complete nonsense. 

It would seem you've finally converted to this type of football and thats grand but don't be dressing it up as something it isn't.

Correct and it is not a coincidence - so do their minors, 17s, 16s, etc. It's not a coincidence - it's called "strategic thinking" and essential for any county that isn't Dublin to maximise resources.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 09:00:01 AM
Donegal u-21's and Donegal Senior play exactly the same style. Exactly the same. If you say different, its you who is embarrassing yourself and id suspect if you have seen them twice as you say you must be watching with your eyes closed. I've seen the u21's live twice, against Mayo and Cavan and just out of interest after all this ohhing and ahhing about this great attacking force I had a look at the Ulster Final. Guess what CK. No difference. It may as well be the same team that played against Mayo in Castlebar in the league.

I have no idea how Donegal set up against Sligo but your claims about how fantastic they were against Derry are complete nonsense. 

It would seem you've finally converted to this type of football and thats grand but don't be dressing it up as something it isn't.


You really are an amazing man. For someone who proclaims his distaste for any Donegal football team you sure seem to go out of your way to watch them a lot. Maybe you are a secret dung lover, the love that dare not breath it's name ;D ;D ;D

I will take it as a compliment that the U21 team play the same style as the senior team who have been widely welcomed as a breath of fresh air in the league this year. I know it is all a matter of taste but comparing Donegal to Mayo in Div 1 this year I would much rather have watched freewheeling Donegal than the "dung" Mayo served up. Who will ever forget the horror of the Dublin game?

I suppose we should be grateful in a way that you are keeping the purists flag flying, longing for the day when man to man marking comes back, Blackthorn boots are worn by all true Gaels & the Archbishop throws the ball in before the game.

Dung lovers of the world unite!!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: rosnarun on April 14, 2017, 09:17:52 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 09:00:01 AM
Donegal u-21's and Donegal Senior play exactly the same style. Exactly the same. If you say different, its you who is embarrassing yourself and id suspect if you have seen them twice as you say you must be watching with your eyes closed. I've seen the u21's live twice, against Mayo and Cavan and just out of interest after all this ohhing and ahhing about this great attacking force I had a look at the Ulster Final. Guess what CK. No difference. It may as well be the same team that played against Mayo in Castlebar in the league.

I have no idea how Donegal set up against Sligo but your claims about how fantastic they were against Derry are complete nonsense. 

It would seem you've finally converted to this type of football and thats grand but don't be dressing it up as something it isn't.


You really are an amazing man. For someone who proclaims his distaste for any Donegal football team you sure seem to go out of your way to watch them a lot. Maybe you are a secret dung lover, the love that dare not breath it's name ;D ;D ;D

I will take it as a compliment that the U21 team play the same style as the senior team who have been widely welcomed as a breath of fresh air in the league this year. I know it is all a matter of taste but comparing Donegal to Mayo in Div 1 this year I would much rather have watched freewheeling Donegal than the "dung" Mayo served up. Who will ever forget the horror of the Dublin game?

I suppose we should be grateful in a way that you are keeping the purists flag flying, longing for the day when man to man marking comes back, Blackthorn boots are worn by all true Gaels & the Archbishop throws the ball in before the game.

Dung lovers of the world unite!!!
A thoughtful piece
your confusing playioing dung . which is negative 15 man behind the ball keep possession at all costs football that Donegal play  with playing badly which is what Mayo did during the league match against dublin or indeed Donegal did when Aidain o Se came on in Castlebar and Schooled murphy .
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: criostlinn on April 14, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 09:00:01 AM
Donegal u-21's and Donegal Senior play exactly the same style. Exactly the same. If you say different, its you who is embarrassing yourself and id suspect if you have seen them twice as you say you must be watching with your eyes closed. I've seen the u21's live twice, against Mayo and Cavan and just out of interest after all this ohhing and ahhing about this great attacking force I had a look at the Ulster Final. Guess what CK. No difference. It may as well be the same team that played against Mayo in Castlebar in the league.

I have no idea how Donegal set up against Sligo but your claims about how fantastic they were against Derry are complete nonsense. 

It would seem you've finally converted to this type of football and thats grand but don't be dressing it up as something it isn't.


You really are an amazing man. For someone who proclaims his distaste for any Donegal football team you sure seem to go out of your way to watch them a lot. Maybe you are a secret dung lover, the love that dare not breath it's name ;D ;D ;D

I will take it as a compliment that the U21 team play the same style as the senior team who have been widely welcomed as a breath of fresh air in the league this year. I know it is all a matter of taste but comparing Donegal to Mayo in Div 1 this year I would much rather have watched freewheeling Donegal than the "dung" Mayo served up. Who will ever forget the horror of the Dublin game?

I suppose we should be grateful in a way that you are keeping the purists flag flying, longing for the day when man to man marking comes back, Blackthorn boots are worn by all true Gaels & the Archbishop throws the ball in before the game.

Dung lovers of the world unite!!!

I think the fact that you find it amazing that someone would actually attend a match in which Donegal are playing says it all but fret not I did not go out of my way to much and it most certainly wasn't to see the "free wheeling"  ;D ;D style of Donegal. Well maybe when I watched the ulster u21 final on youtube I was expecting some revolutionary form of attacking play which they'd developed in a week after the way some folk on here built it up. But no. It transpires that some people just see a scoreline and cant wait to get on the keyboard to proclaim that this is the new Donegal. 

You can take it as a compliment if you want when I said the u21 and seniors play the same style. It most certainly wasn't meant to be a criticism. It was more of an observation and a reply to that other eagit  who tells me I'm embarrassing myself by saying it. Of course they are going to play the same. Half the senior team is made up of u21's. The way some people have taken to this style, Donegal certainly wont be changing any time soon so of course they are going to be playing the same.

You seem to be amazed that someone would be actually critical of the way Donegal play. Like really. You've never heard it said before. You talk about "widely accepted as a breath of fresh air" and "free wheeling". What the hell are ye smoking up in the hills.
The way Donegal are playing at the moment is actually more defensive then 2012 when they got a lot of unfair criticism because of what they did to the Dubs the year before.

And back we go to a pop at Mayo to try and rubbish what I am saying. Its like a child. " My daddy is better then your daddy". If you want to pick a league match between Dublin and Mayo in March as some sort of justification for how Donegal play the game so be it, truck on, what ever it takes to convince yourself but it just gives me the impression that you haven't looked much at Mayo or Donegal this year

I think best leave it at that. You seem to be taking any criticism of Donegal's style of football from a Mayo man as a personal dig. This started with me describing Donegal's u21 style of play as "dung" after some people started using a scoreline to in some way justify the way they play the game. I'm in no way suggesting we should go back to man to man but I fear the way things are going if teams who play this style keep on been successful we  will just end up with a version of rugby without the egg as everyone else follows. A few simple rule changes could improve things but some people's blind loyalty to the county winning over how the game is played will always be an obstacle for any change

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on April 14, 2017, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I would imagine the bookies have taken a lot on Kerry to win the All-Ireland out so aren't offering attractive odds as they want to limit their exposure - plus the fact that Kerry absolutely took Cork apart in the last game whereas Galway needed extra-time to get past Sligo who have never even won a Connacht title at U21.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Galway taking a biggish beating here - their backs look very average imo (even when they had numbers back against Sligo they weren't defending as a solid unit but as individuals) and if the Kerry forwards hit form it could get ugly.

Dublin will be hoping for goals and that the league games and condensed schedule catches up with the Donegal lads.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on April 14, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 09:00:01 AM
Donegal u-21's and Donegal Senior play exactly the same style. Exactly the same. If you say different, its you who is embarrassing yourself and id suspect if you have seen them twice as you say you must be watching with your eyes closed. I've seen the u21's live twice, against Mayo and Cavan and just out of interest after all this ohhing and ahhing about this great attacking force I had a look at the Ulster Final. Guess what CK. No difference. It may as well be the same team that played against Mayo in Castlebar in the league.

I have no idea how Donegal set up against Sligo but your claims about how fantastic they were against Derry are complete nonsense. 

It would seem you've finally converted to this type of football and thats grand but don't be dressing it up as something it isn't.


You really are an amazing man. For someone who proclaims his distaste for any Donegal football team you sure seem to go out of your way to watch them a lot. Maybe you are a secret dung lover, the love that dare not breath it's name ;D ;D ;D

I will take it as a compliment that the U21 team play the same style as the senior team who have been widely welcomed as a breath of fresh air in the league this year. I know it is all a matter of taste but comparing Donegal to Mayo in Div 1 this year I would much rather have watched freewheeling Donegal than the "dung" Mayo served up. Who will ever forget the horror of the Dublin game?

I suppose we should be grateful in a way that you are keeping the purists flag flying, longing for the day when man to man marking comes back, Blackthorn boots are worn by all true Gaels & the Archbishop throws the ball in before the game.

Dung lovers of the world unite!!!

I think the fact that you find it amazing that someone would actually attend a match in which Donegal are playing says it all but fret not I did not go out of my way to much and it most certainly wasn't to see the "free wheeling"  ;D ;D style of Donegal. Well maybe when I watched the ulster u21 final on youtube I was expecting some revolutionary form of attacking play which they'd developed in a week after the way some folk on here built it up. But no. It transpires that some people just see a scoreline and cant wait to get on the keyboard to proclaim that this is the new Donegal. 

You can take it as a compliment if you want when I said the u21 and seniors play the same style. It most certainly wasn't meant to be a criticism. It was more of an observation and a reply to that other eagit  who tells me I'm embarrassing myself by saying it. Of course they are going to play the same. Half the senior team is made up of u21's. The way some people have taken to this style, Donegal certainly wont be changing any time soon so of course they are going to be playing the same.

You seem to be amazed that someone would be actually critical of the way Donegal play. Like really. You've never heard it said before. You talk about "widely accepted as a breath of fresh air" and "free wheeling". What the hell are ye smoking up in the hills.
The way Donegal are playing at the moment is actually more defensive then 2012 when they got a lot of unfair criticism because of what they did to the Dubs the year before.

And back we go to a pop at Mayo to try and rubbish what I am saying. Its like a child. " My daddy is better then your daddy". If you want to pick a league match between Dublin and Mayo in March as some sort of justification for how Donegal play the game so be it, truck on, what ever it takes to convince yourself but it just gives me the impression that you haven't looked much at Mayo or Donegal this year

I think best leave it at that. You seem to be taking any criticism of Donegal's style of football from a Mayo man as a personal dig. This started with me describing Donegal's u21 style of play as "dung" after some people started using a scoreline to in some way justify the way they play the game. I'm in no way suggesting we should go back to man to man but I fear the way things are going if teams who play this style keep on been successful we  will just end up with a version of rugby without the egg as everyone else follows. A few simple rule changes could improve things but some people's blind loyalty to the county winning over how the game is played will always be an obstacle for any change

Ah no criost, I don't take what you say personally at all. I am just enjoying a bit of banter with a man who is well fit for it.

See you in Cavan tomorrow ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 14, 2017, 01:33:02 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 14, 2017, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I would imagine the bookies have taken a lot on Kerry to win the All-Ireland out so aren't offering attractive odds as they want to limit their exposure - plus the fact that Kerry absolutely took Cork apart in the last game whereas Galway needed extra-time to get past Sligo who have never even won a Connacht title at U21.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Galway taking a biggish beating here - their backs look very average imo (even when they had numbers back against Sligo they weren't defending as a solid unit but as individuals) and if the Kerry forwards hit form it could get ugly.

Dublin will be hoping for goals and that the league games and condensed schedule catches up with the Donegal lads.
u21 isnt as predictable as senior
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 14, 2017, 01:37:55 PM
Indeed.
Mayowestros didn't look all that hectic in Connacht last year yet went all the way.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 14, 2017, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 14, 2017, 01:37:55 PM
Indeed.
Mayowestros didn't look all that hectic in Connacht last year yet went all the way.

I think it was in 2011 that Cork were red hot favourites only to be beaten by Galway in the semi
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 14, 2017, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 14, 2017, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I would imagine the bookies have taken a lot on Kerry to win the All-Ireland out so aren't offering attractive odds as they want to limit their exposure - plus the fact that Kerry absolutely took Cork apart in the last game whereas Galway needed extra-time to get past Sligo who have never even won a Connacht title at U21.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Galway taking a biggish beating here - their backs look very average imo (even when they had numbers back against Sligo they weren't defending as a solid unit but as individuals) and if the Kerry forwards hit form it could get ugly.


There is also the possibility that Cork were not actually that good this year. They were fortunate enough to beat Limerick in the Munster semi in large part thanks to a missed Limerick penalty.

Also the possibility that Sligo actually had quite a decent team this year. They beat Roscommon relatively handy and their school sides have been doing very well in Connacht in the past couple years so they obviously have talent coming through.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 14, 2017, 02:42:55 PM
Galway team v Kerry

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)

2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)

5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)

8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)

10. Séan Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Michael Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)

13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew/Moylough)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)

Kerry

1. Shane Ryan Rathmore

2. Tom (Leo) O'Sullivan Dingle
3. Jason Foley Ballydonoghue
4. Tom O'Sullivan Dingle

5. Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht
6. Andrew Barry Na Gaeil
7. Gavin White Dr Crokes

8.Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue
9.Barry O'Sullivan Dingle

10. Brandon Barrett Ardfert
11. Sean O'Shea Kenmare
12. Matthew Flaherty Dingle

13. Killian Spillane Templenoe
14. Matthew O'Sullivan St Michaels-Foilmore
15. Conor Geaney Dingle


Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 14, 2017, 03:17:19 PM
If Dingle don't win an All Ireland club in the next 5 years I'll eat my hat!!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 14, 2017, 05:04:39 PM
Looking forward to tomorrows game against an unchanged Dublin team. No word on the Donegal team but I'm sure it will be more or less the same as the team that started the Ulster final.

The weather forecast is good which will suit two good footballing teams who put the emphasis on scoring to win games & I'm sure there will be a big crowd there as many neutrals will want to see this game as well.

The Magees jersey is aired, the sausages & bacon are in for the pre match fry up & God is in his heaven.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I gave the semi finals fixtures and venues on page 41 of this thread.

Donegal favourites isn't a surprise. Dublin are not at the level of their 2012,2014 U21 teams and if you do decent marking job on O'Callaghan you will go a long way to beating them. This is the best Donegal U21 team since 2010 only thing going against them is having to play this semi final so soon after the Ulster final.

In the other semi final the way Galway are written off might fire them up to produce a top performance they haven't showed thus far but I think Jack O Connor will be too cute to any ambush.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 14, 2017, 08:57:03 PM
If you're from Kerry and your name is Tom O'Sullivan, you are legally required to play corner back only.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 14, 2017, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 14, 2017, 08:57:03 PM
If you're from Kerry and your name is Tom O'Sullivan, you are legally required to play corner back only.
They also have a Spillane from Templenoe .  I expect him to play with intinsity. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mayoaremagic on April 15, 2017, 12:11:48 PM
Expect Kerry to give Galway a good trimming. Only 10/1 for Kerry to win by 16 points or more. Kerry love play Galway as they play open traditional football and fear Kerry. Expect to win by 20+. Could do with a tough game going into final against Donegal

Winning Margin   Hide
Kerry U21 1-3 pts 10/3   
Kerry U21 4-6 pts 10/3   
Kerry U21 7-9 pts 7/2   
Kerry U21 10-12 pts 11/2   
Kerry U21 13-15 pts 17/2   
Kerry U21 16 pts or more 10/1
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 12:26:47 PM
The last time Galway and Kerry played each other at U-21 level was the 2002 All-Ireland semi-final. Colm Cooper and Declan O'Sullivan started for Kerry that day.

Result Galway 0-17 Kerry 2-6

Strangely enough I can't remember that game for the life of me. Just saw it was mentioned in the paper today. I have no memory of it at all.

Although it was obviously a very handy Galway side as they subsequently hammered Dublin in the final. I was at that game.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: bannside on April 15, 2017, 02:31:30 PM
Any links to the games today?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
Con O'Callaghan black carded after 3 minutes. Jaysus.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
Dublins best player gone after 3 minutes to a black card. A yellow was surely a more sensible option by the ref?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 02:41:37 PM
Donegal very inaccurate.
Dublin more direct going forward.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 15, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
Donegal have been terrible in the opening twenty minutes if they don't wake up soon this contest will be over.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: DuffleKing on April 15, 2017, 02:53:39 PM

This is very hard to look at
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 03:01:42 PM
Bonner has created a monster!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 03:03:37 PM
Not the greatest game of football to say the least.

Black card was technically the right decision under the rules but really a yellow card would have sufficed there. It was more clumsy than cynical.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Well that was awful.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:04:47 PM
Is this just the way Donegal play now?
At all levels?
Forever?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2017, 02:53:39 PM

This is very hard to look at
Poor half indeed more wides than scores. Donegal can be thankful Dublin aren't at the level they once were at U21.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:04:47 PM
Is this just the way Donegal play now?
At all levels?
Forever?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: joemamas on April 15, 2017, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2017, 02:53:39 PM

This is very hard to look at

On 24 mins, Donegal have a three on two 30 yards out running at goal. Donegal player gets pass , he is open, running straight at goal, does not have either confidence or approval from coaches to shoot.
He inexplicably stops his progress, Dublin, player disposes him, 20 seconds later a good point for Dublin.

TBH , I have not watched any u21 this year, but whoever thinks that this Donegal effort at "Football"
is doing anybody any good except a manager who may be resume building or stat building is dilusional.

Horrible horrible shit.





Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2017, 02:53:39 PM

This is very hard to look at
Hopefully the pure footballing aristocrats will give us a classic later.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
To be fair Dublin are hardly much better though I don't know if that's just because they're playing Donegal or if they set up very defensively too. It's brutal viewing though and coaches need to wise up and start get their teams to play football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Estimator on April 15, 2017, 03:11:10 PM
Strange that the ref allowed the Dublin No20 to come in and contest the 'up ball' when the nominated players were Dublin No19 and Donegal No33
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: skeog on April 15, 2017, 03:14:57 PM
What crap game is turgid stuff.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
To be fair Dublin are hardly much better though I don't know if that's just because they're playing Donegal or if they set up very defensively too. It's brutal viewing though and coaches need to wise up and start get their teams to play football.

Donegal coming into it now. You have to play this way against Donegal. If you set up relatively conventionally you are toast!!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
Exactly.
It always bugs me when the team playing Donegal are apportioned an equal share of the blame for how soul-destroying the game is.
If Dublin were playing Kerry or Galway it would be completely different.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:25:50 PM
That said, no. 33 for Donegal is some man to catch a ball.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: SouthDublinBro on April 15, 2017, 03:41:37 PM
Ulster football in general is shockingly dull to watch at all levels.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 03:42:11 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on April 15, 2017, 03:41:37 PM
Ulster football in general is shockingly dull to watch at all levels.

Give over you clown.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: bannside on April 15, 2017, 03:44:30 PM
What's the score?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
Dublin up 1-12 to 6. Far better in every department
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
Is the short turnaround much of a factor here?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: joemamas on April 15, 2017, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
Is the short turnaround much of a factor here?

More to do with turning back to your own goals.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 15, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
No 11 and 12 very good for Dublin but overall a disappointing game with Dublin always in control
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Redhand Santa on April 15, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
Exactly.
It always bugs me when the team playing Donegal are apportioned an equal share of the blame for how soul-destroying the game is.
If Dublin were playing Kerry or Galway it would be completely different.

I'd give Dublin the benefit of the doubt if Farrell wasn't managing. I remember being at the Dublin Meath minor final in 2012 and it was awful defensive stuff from both teams. The finals in the previous years had been good open games but that year 2012 two Leinster teams brought a real defensive attitude to croke park.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 15, 2017, 03:50:42 PM
Basquil very disappionting for Dublin.For a player who was close to making the senior team he has regressed quite a lot
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 15, 2017, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
Is the short turnaround much of a factor here?

Hasn't helped. Donegal were terrible on the day, failing to score for 25 minutes and only scoring 9 points in total. Dublin were nothing special but good value for their margin of victory.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: dublin7 on April 15, 2017, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 15, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
No 11 and 12 very good for Dublin but overall a disappointing game with Dublin always in control

Any game involving Donegal is horrible to watch. Like watching a bad game of basketball. How anyone could watch that s***e every game is beyond me. Donegal refused to kick the ball even with a strong breeze behind them in the 1st half. Not a great Dublin team but at least they try to play football.

Whatever about senior level, but to see such defensive set ups at underage is a joke. Someone in Donegal co board needs to grow a pair and put a stop to such negative tactics at underage.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: skeog on April 15, 2017, 04:04:47 PM
Standard in Ulster has dropped which is very worrying.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Throw ball on April 15, 2017, 04:07:00 PM
At half time in Ulster final I posted how crap football is and got slated. Be prepared for a backlash!
On saying that to play the way they do you have to be at peak fitness. Being the 3rd game in 11 days cannot have helped them. Add the that the number that played national league.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: The Hill is Blue on April 15, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
With Kerry and Galway about to lock horns will the two Spillane cousins be meeting in the final?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 15, 2017, 04:07:00 PM
At half time in Ulster final I posted how crap football is and got slated. Be prepared for a backlash!
On saying that to play the way they do you have to be at peak fitness. Being the 3rd game in 11 days cannot have helped them. Add the that the number that played national league.
A number of the Donegal players looked leg weary today alright. Rory Gallagher overpaying U21s eventually caught up with them today.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: on the hop on April 15, 2017, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on April 15, 2017, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 15, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
No 11 and 12 very good for Dublin but overall a disappointing game with Dublin always in control

Any game involving Donegal is horrible to watch. Like watching a bad game of basketball. How anyone could watch that s***e every game is beyond me. Donegal refused to kick the ball even with a strong breeze behind them in the 1st half. Not a great Dublin team but at least they try to play football.

Whatever about senior level, but to see such defensive set ups at underage is a joke. Someone in Donegal co board needs to grow a pair and put a stop to such negative tactics at underage.

Dublin played with a lot of men behind the ball as well,
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 04:33:30 PM
Galway goal after 20 seconds.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
We have a football match on our hands here.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 04:40:58 PM
Flying start for Galway. 1-7 to 0-1 ahead 10 mins gone.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 04:42:48 PM
Kerry can't get out of their own half.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 15, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
This is some start from Galway.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 04:44:52 PM
Kerry getting ate in midfield. Galway do have the wind though.

1-7 and Galway have just messed up 2 other goal chances.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 04:47:09 PM
Kerry are awful at running the ball out of their half. Passing across the field with no pace or variation.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 04:48:39 PM
Strong enough looking breeze in fairness.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 15, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on April 15, 2017, 12:11:48 PM
Expect Kerry to give Galway a good trimming. Only 10/1 for Kerry to win by 16 points or more. Kerry love play Galway as they play open traditional football and fear Kerry. Expect to win by 20+. Could do with a tough game going into final against Donegal

Winning Margin   Hide
Kerry U21 1-3 pts 10/3   
Kerry U21 4-6 pts 10/3   
Kerry U21 7-9 pts 7/2   
Kerry U21 10-12 pts 11/2   
Kerry U21 13-15 pts 17/2   
Kerry U21 16 pts or more 10/1

Looking forward to the Kerry comeback to win by 20 points!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 04:50:18 PM
Galway now making a few mistakes here, otherwise they'd be a lot further ahead.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 04:50:29 PM
Galway have had 3 goal chances now that they've messed up with the last pass.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
Kerry playing like a team that turned up expecting Galway to roll over. The amount of Kerry lads that have lost possession in a tackle is a joke. In saying that Galway might live to regret not being more clinical.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: maigheo on April 15, 2017, 04:52:47 PM
Galway should be out the gate.Missing a lot of chances
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 04:53:47 PM
Galway could be count cost of those missed chances yet. Game should be over as contest already.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 04:54:39 PM
Kerry only have 2 Tom O'Sullivans in the FB line. They need another one.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I gave the semi finals fixtures and venues on page 41 of this thread.

Donegal favourites isn't a surprise. Dublin are not at the level of their 2012,2014 U21 teams and if you do decent marking job on O'Callaghan you will go a long way to beating them. This is the best Donegal U21 team since 2010 only thing going against them is having to play this semi final so soon after the Ulster final.

In the other semi final the way Galway are written off might fire them up to produce a top performance they haven't showed thus far but I think Jack O Connor will be too cute to any ambush.

lol
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: longballin on April 15, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I gave the semi finals fixtures and venues on page 41 of this thread.

Donegal favourites isn't a surprise. Dublin are not at the level of their 2012,2014 U21 teams and if you do decent marking job on O'Callaghan you will go a long way to beating them. This is the best Donegal U21 team since 2010 only thing going against them is having to play this semi final so soon after the Ulster final.

In the other semi final the way Galway are written off might fire them up to produce a top performance they haven't showed thus far but I think Jack O Connor will be too cute to any ambush.

lol

Most people would have thought the same...
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:00:07 PM
6 wides in a row for Galway now and an easy one just dropped into the keepers arms.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 15, 2017, 05:02:16 PM
Galway are kicking this away
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:02:37 PM
Kerry have reached the pitch of the game better and look like they could do damage in the second half. Be interesting to see if Galway play lots of bodies back in the second half as I don't think they can keep Kerry at bay if they play conventional enough.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 15, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I gave the semi finals fixtures and venues on page 41 of this thread.

Donegal favourites isn't a surprise. Dublin are not at the level of their 2012,2014 U21 teams and if you do decent marking job on O'Callaghan you will go a long way to beating them. This is the best Donegal U21 team since 2010 only thing going against them is having to play this semi final so soon after the Ulster final.

In the other semi final the way Galway are written off might fire them up to produce a top performance they haven't showed thus far but I think Jack O Connor will be too cute to any ambush.

lol

Most people would have thought the same...

Donegal and Dublin were neck and neck three years ago at minor and Dublin have an U21 set-up swimming in money. You do the math. There's not been a Dublin team that wasn't fully capable of winning the AI since at least 2009 imho. Production line stuff.

Connacht U21 has been at a pretty high level consistently for the last decade. This year alone Leitrim and Sligo were near matches for that Galway side but people wrote it off as Galway being shite rather than looking at previous years and seeing close games in Connacht are common place and don't reflect a team's capability of challenging for the AI. Just the the other provinces get the hype machines behind them, which really matters for nothing at underage.

What about them bookies, eh Cunny Funt?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Another goal could finish off Kerry
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:05:23 PM
Galway 8 up at the break (probably should be at least 12). Significant enough breeze so far from over.

The usually reliable Rob Finnerty is having a day to forget. Could easily have had 2-1.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 15, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I gave the semi finals fixtures and venues on page 41 of this thread.

Donegal favourites isn't a surprise. Dublin are not at the level of their 2012,2014 U21 teams and if you do decent marking job on O'Callaghan you will go a long way to beating them. This is the best Donegal U21 team since 2010 only thing going against them is having to play this semi final so soon after the Ulster final.

In the other semi final the way Galway are written off might fire them up to produce a top performance they haven't showed thus far but I think Jack O Connor will be too cute to any ambush.

lol

Most people would have thought the same...

Syferus with is fabulous hindsight thoughts expected from a WUM like him.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: macdanger2 on April 15, 2017, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: Estimator on April 15, 2017, 03:11:10 PM
Strange that the ref allowed the Dublin No20 to come in and contest the 'up ball' when the nominated players were Dublin No19 and Donegal No33

The amount of refs who don't seem to know this rule is unbelievable. Dublin got away with one in the drawn final last year. It's not like it's a difficult infringement to detect.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:14:54 PM
Kerry have a goal before the TV pictures are even back Jaysus.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 15, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: StephenC on April 14, 2017, 09:39:28 AM
If only there were 2 massive games being played tomorrow to distract us all from this pearl-clutching.

Donegal are (surprisingly IMO) slight favourites on PP. 4/6 vs 13/8 for Dublin. 15/2 the draw.
Kerry are 7/1 on which seems crazy versus a decent Galway team. I know that this is an exceptional Kerry team but those odds seem mad.

Both games are on TG4
Dublin v Donegal 2.30pm in Breffni Park
Kerry v Galway 4.30pm in Cusack Park Ennis.

I gave the semi finals fixtures and venues on page 41 of this thread.

Donegal favourites isn't a surprise. Dublin are not at the level of their 2012,2014 U21 teams and if you do decent marking job on O'Callaghan you will go a long way to beating them. This is the best Donegal U21 team since 2010 only thing going against them is having to play this semi final so soon after the Ulster final.

In the other semi final the way Galway are written off might fire them up to produce a top performance they haven't showed thus far but I think Jack O Connor will be too cute to any ambush.

lol

Most people would have thought the same...

Syferus with is fabulous hindsight thoughts expected from a WUM like him.

The only one who sounds wound up here is you..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:14:54 PM
Kerry have a goal before the TV pictures are even back Jaysus.
What was going on there? Should the goal have been allowed??

Interesting game now 20 mins to play Kerry 1-6 Galway 1-11
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
Didn't even see the Kerry goal. Some saying it should have been disallowed alright.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
Finnerty could have settled it there.
He has the father's curls!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: joemamas on April 15, 2017, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
Finnerty could have settled it there.
He has the father's curls!

He has wasted a ton of scoring opportunities today
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:30:48 PM
Cooke and Darcy in midfield for Galway are both having stormers.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:31:13 PM
Kerry midfielder gone on a 2nd yellow.
That seemed very harsh to me.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Jesus that was very very harsh.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Jesus that was very very harsh.

+1
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:33:46 PM
Bye Barry. By pulling the arm like that on a yellow he's putting it on a plate for the ref. No sympathy.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Bite looks gone out of Kerry! ATM
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:34:40 PM
Whatever chance they had of clawing their way back is gone now anyway.
Galway will go full fancy dan in the last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
That'll do it for Galway I'd say. Kerry don't seem capable of penetrating Galway at pace so won't get the scores they need.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:35:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Bite looks gone out of Kerry! ATM

The only thing better than Kerry losing is a Jack O'Connor managed Kerry losing..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:36:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2017, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: joemamas on April 15, 2017, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
Finnerty could have settled it there.
He has the father's curls!

He has wasted a ton of scoring opportunities today
I've only been watching bits & pieces but he appears useless in front of goal.

Not usually but had a horror show today.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
The Kerry players have let Jack down big-time.  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 15, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Jesus that was very very harsh.

+1

Crazy, he didn't even see the Galway man coming. Poor poor decision.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
Th'oul 4 step rule not apply in U21???
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
The Kerry players have let Jack down big-time.  ;D

Jacko to get a dig in at the ref after the match.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:40:38 PM
Kerry only able to hoof a few balls in around the square. Very poor performance from them and Galway deserving winners.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Throw ball on April 15, 2017, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 15, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Jesus that was very very harsh.

+1

Crazy, he didn't even see the Galway man coming. Poor poor decision.

Agree.
Second game the better football match. Thought referee had a fairly good game in first match
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:41:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2017, 10:08:23 AM
There are no 'sure things' when it comes to underage football.

+1
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:42:51 PM
Never happier to see Galway run up the score.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: joemamas on April 15, 2017, 05:44:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
The Kerry players have let Jack down big-time.  ;D

It has been a bad week for the bollocks.

After last Sunday, I thought to myself the only Kerryman that might be less than happy with the victory would be him, now this.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
Galway very wasteful at the same time.
Plenty of room to improve.
One thing's for sure though... they won't fear Dublin.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
There goes Jack O'Connor's chance of managing the seniors again. In the long run this might be the best thing ever happened these players.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
There goes Jack O'Connor's chance of managing the seniors again. In the long run this might be the best thing ever happened these players.

Eh? Unless he steps down he's another shot next year. Dislike him as much as the next person but premature much?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: dublin7 on April 15, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch

Galway were 8/9 points the better team.  Only poor finishing and the late Kerry goal kept it close.  Far better game than the 1st game with two teams who at least tried to play football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Flying start set the tone for Galway. Well done to Dublin and Galway two big underdogs coming into today's semi finals but both had their homework done and fully deserved their victories. It's shocks like that makes underage football so great pity the shock results are less likely at senior level nowadays.

First Galway v Dublin U21 final since 2002 I believe.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
There goes Jack O'Connor's chance of managing the seniors again. In the long run this might be the best thing ever happened these players.

Eh? Unless he steps down he's another shot next year. Dislike him as much as the next person but premature much?
I don't think you realise how badly this is going to go down in Kerry. It sounds harsh, it is harsh, but nothing less than an All-Ireland would have been expected.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
From a Galway perspective and looking to the future we should get a good few seniors from this bunch. Daly has already made an impact at senior level. Cooke and McDaid look to have big futures. Thought Séan Andy Ó'Ceallaigh had a powerful game at full-back. Big, strong and athletic. Cein Darcy in midfield as well wasn't far behind Cooke. Rob Finnerty too although the poor lad had a shocker today. Molloy has a chance of making it too once he has a haircut.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ashman on April 15, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
A fella would have paid for the weekends porter and a nice meal with herself if he did a €20 double .
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
There goes Jack O'Connor's chance of managing the seniors again. In the long run this might be the best thing ever happened these players.

Eh? Unless he steps down he's another shot next year. Dislike him as much as the next person but premature much?
I don't think you realise how badly this is going to go down in Kerry. It sounds harsh, it is harsh, but nothing less than an All-Ireland would have been expected.

Kerry have always put little stock in underage AIs and if they did the minor AIs would be plenty of a fireguard for Jacko. You're coming for a strange place on this one.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 15, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Syferus like a minor rash is annoyance pity there is no cream to get rid of that yoke  ;D

Got both semi finals wrong and man enough to admit I was wrong. Kerry and Donegal poor on day but that shouldn't take away from Galway and Dublin who fully deserved their wins. I agree with the above Galway have plenty of strong athletic players that should be top senior footballers in the years ahead. Hopefully the last ever U21 final is one remember a real shame this grade is coming to its conclusion and replaced by diluted version.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
So much for the bookies. Galway have 5 or 6 class players.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 06:50:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 15, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Syferus like a minor rash is annoyance pity there is no cream to get rid of that yoke  ;D

Got both semi finals wrong and man enough to admit I was wrong. Kerry and Donegal poor on day but that shouldn't take away from Galway and Dublin who fully deserved their wins. I agree with the above Galway have plenty of strong athletic players that should be top senior footballers in the years ahead. Hopefully the last ever U21 final is one remember a real shame this grade is coming to its conclusion and replaced by diluted version.

The big man who gets the digs in first. Maybe time for a name change? Captain Go with the Prevailing Wind? Maybe Captain Wind for short?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 15, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 15, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Syferus like a minor rash is annoyance pity there is no cream to get rid of that yoke  ;D

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:42:51 PM
Never happier to see Galway run up the score.

Your Rhubarb love thrown overboard as you jump on a new bandwagon.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
So much for the bookies. Galway have 5 or 6 class players.

What odds were Galway to win today?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Flying start set the tone for Galway. Well done to Dublin and Galway two big underdogs coming into today's semi finals but both had their homework done and fully deserved their victories. It's shocks like that makes underage football so great pity the shock results are less likely at senior level nowadays.

First Galway v Dublin U21 final since 2002 I believe.

Since 2002 Galway and Dublin have won 4 u21 All irelands each.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
So much for the bookies. Galway have 5 or 6 class players.

What odds were Galway to win today?
During the week Kerry were 7/1 on. I think Galway were 3/1.
Sligo would have beaten Cork.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
So much for the bookies. Galway have 5 or 6 class players.

What odds were Galway to win today?
During the week Kerry were 7/1 on. I think Galway were 3/1.
Sligo would have beaten Cork.

Sligo would have beaten Kerry based on what we saw today.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
From a Galway perspective and looking to the future we should get a good few seniors from this bunch. Daly has already made an impact at senior level. Cooke and McDaid look to have big futures. Thought Séan Andy Ó'Ceallaigh had a powerful game at full-back. Big, strong and athletic. Cein Darcy in midfield as well wasn't far behind Cooke. Rob Finnerty too although the poor lad had a shocker today. Molloy has a chance of making it too once he has a haircut.

Did Galway have many players from last years minor team playing today?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 07:54:29 PM
Kerry thought all they had to do was tog out. So did Kildare about 20 years ago. And Meath a few years after.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 08:05:16 PM
All the talk of Kerry dominating at this grade. The Golden generation and what not! Crazy expectation to be put on a bunch of players at such an early stage of their development.

The Mad thing is Dublin's recent dominance at underage has been dismissed, while Kerry's couple of Minor titles out of no where have been seen as a pre-requisite to future success.

The denial of where Dublin football is at is Scary! This is no fad of temporary dominance.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 15, 2017, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
From a Galway perspective and looking to the future we should get a good few seniors from this bunch. Daly has already made an impact at senior level. Cooke and McDaid look to have big futures. Thought Séan Andy Ó'Ceallaigh had a powerful game at full-back. Big, strong and athletic. Cein Darcy in midfield as well wasn't far behind Cooke. Rob Finnerty too although the poor lad had a shocker today. Molloy has a chance of making it too once he has a haircut.

Did Galway have many players from last years minor team playing today?

D'Arcy (9), Conneely (15) & Finnerty (13) D'Arcy was outstanding again, made a huge difference when he came on against Sligo kicking 3 points from play. Along with Cooke makes for Galway having a very strong midfield.



Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 08:10:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 07:54:29 PM
Kerry thought all they had to do was tog out. So did Kildare about 20 years ago. And Meath a few years after.

Mayo 2016

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 15, 2017, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
From a Galway perspective and looking to the future we should get a good few seniors from this bunch. Daly has already made an impact at senior level. Cooke and McDaid look to have big futures. Thought Séan Andy Ó'Ceallaigh had a powerful game at full-back. Big, strong and athletic. Cein Darcy in midfield as well wasn't far behind Cooke. Rob Finnerty too although the poor lad had a shocker today. Molloy has a chance of making it too once he has a haircut.

Did Galway have many players from last years minor team playing today?

D'Arcy (9), Conneely (15) & Finnerty (13) D'Arcy was outstanding again, made a huge difference when he came on against Sligo kicking 3 points from play. Along with Cooke makes for Galway having a very strong midfield.



Was Connelly centre forward on that minor team?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Flying start set the tone for Galway. Well done to Dublin and Galway two big underdogs coming into today's semi finals but both had their homework done and fully deserved their victories. It's shocks like that makes underage football so great pity the shock results are less likely at senior level nowadays.

First Galway v Dublin U21 final since 2002 I believe.

Since 2002 Galway and Dublin have won 4 u21 All irelands each.

Yes I know and you can make it 5 v 4 in U21 All Irelands won now. What they won previously didn't count much for their U21 teams this year though. Tyrone and Mayo won the last two All Irelands at this grade even though both went a good number of years without winning a province title.

Galway were 11/2 before the game when did a semi finalists win at those long odds before?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Flying start set the tone for Galway. Well done to Dublin and Galway two big underdogs coming into today's semi finals but both had their homework done and fully deserved their victories. It's shocks like that makes underage football so great pity the shock results are less likely at senior level nowadays.

First Galway v Dublin U21 final since 2002 I believe.

Since 2002 Galway and Dublin have won 4 u21 All irelands each.

Yes I know and you can make it 5 v 4 in U21 All Irelands won now. What they won previously didn't count much for their U21 teams this year though. Tyrone and Mayo won the last two All Irelands at this grade even though both went a good number of years without winning a province title.

Galway were 11/2 before the game when did a semi finalists win at those long odds before?

You probably would have got long odds on Tipperary to beat Dublin in 2015. I cant see us winning too many u21 titles even at Leinster for next few years. This group won Leinster at minor in 2014 however we were very poor at minor the last 2 years.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: BluestackBoy on April 15, 2017, 08:25:15 PM
No complaints at all about today's defeat, we were outclassed everywhere & Dublin fully deserved their win.

5 games in 17 days may well have caught up with our lads in the end as they looked very lethargic & sluggish & Donegal's style of play demands high levels of energy otherwise it doesn't work & it didn't work today.

Fair dues as well to Galway in beating well fancied Kerry. I'd say there were good odds to be had on that double!!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
My grandmother's brother died about 15 years ago but he always said the footballers knew how to win when they had the players. The hurlers, on the other hand.....
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on April 15, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 08:05:16 PM
All the talk of Kerry dominating at this grade. The Golden generation and what not! Crazy expectation to be put on a bunch of players at such an early stage of their development.

The Mad thing is Dublin's recent dominance at underage has been dismissed, while Kerry's couple of Minor titles out of no where have been seen as a pre-requisite to future success.

The denial of where Dublin football is at is Scary! This is no fad of temporary dominance.
Can hardly be called a Dublin dominance at underage if Galway end up winning win this final and end up with more underage All Irelands than Dublin the last decade.

Kerry have won 3 minors All Irelands in a row the minor team to beat again this year and they won the last 4 Hogan cups it won't be a brave prediction to say they will be back with Jack O Connor (written off by some on here) to win U20 All Ireland.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: johnpower on April 15, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
Well done Galway much the better team , great start from Galway from a kerry point of view very disappointing did not function at all. it should be a good final.

I am wondering how many u21 players that played today will featrure in the senior championship?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 08:34:52 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 15, 2017, 08:25:15 PM
No complaints at all about today's defeat, we were outclassed everywhere & Dublin fully deserved their win.

5 games in 17 days may well have caught up with our lads in the end as they looked very lethargic & sluggish & Donegal's style of play demands high levels of energy otherwise it doesn't work & it didn't work today.

Fair dues as well to Galway in beating well fancied Kerry. I'd say there were good odds to be had on that double!!

Was tough on Donegal to play so many games in a short time though why did Rory Gallagher play the young lads in Mayo game?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 08:34:52 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 15, 2017, 08:25:15 PM
No complaints at all about today's defeat, we were outclassed everywhere & Dublin fully deserved their win.

5 games in 17 days may well have caught up with our lads in the end as they looked very lethargic & sluggish & Donegal's style of play demands high levels of energy otherwise it doesn't work & it didn't work today.

Fair dues as well to Galway in beating well fancied Kerry. I'd say there were good odds to be had on that double!!

Was tough on Donegal to play so many games in a short time though why did Rory Gallagher play the young lads in Mayo game?

Would it be that Rory was feeling a bit intimidated by a successful Under 21 manager?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 15, 2017, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 15, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
From a Galway perspective and looking to the future we should get a good few seniors from this bunch. Daly has already made an impact at senior level. Cooke and McDaid look to have big futures. Thought Séan Andy Ó'Ceallaigh had a powerful game at full-back. Big, strong and athletic. Cein Darcy in midfield as well wasn't far behind Cooke. Rob Finnerty too although the poor lad had a shocker today. Molloy has a chance of making it too once he has a haircut.

Did Galway have many players from last years minor team playing today?

D'Arcy (9), Conneely (15) & Finnerty (13) D'Arcy was outstanding again, made a huge difference when he came on against Sligo kicking 3 points from play. Along with Cooke makes for Galway having a very strong midfield.



Was Connelly centre forward on that minor team?

Corner forward on last year's minor team that lost the final to Kerry. Think Galway had 3 of that team starting today. Connelly, R Finnerty and D'Arcy.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2017, 08:40:49 PM
Kerry were disappointing. They didn't look like they had the appetite for a fight. In saying that no red card and the game couldhave went to the wire. I thought the sending off was harsh but the guy was fouling from the first minute and if he wasn't sent off then he would probably still have been sent off. I suspect kerry were also sorry they did't bring the wee boy who scored the goal on much earlier.

Hard to believe how bad donegal were. I don't think you could even say one player stood out. Tiredness is bound to have been a factor as i find it hard to believe they could be that bad. Dublin were better everywhere and to be honest the scoreline almost flattered donegal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: skeog on April 15, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
Tiredness only comes into the equation on a defeat.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on April 15, 2017, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 15, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
Tiredness only comes into the equation on a defeat.
If there is some validity in the "tired out" explanation, the tiredness generally comes into the equation in the last quarter of a game and it can only reasonably be a factor if the game was still in the balance. In this game, Dublin dominated the game from the first minute.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 15, 2017, 09:22:57 PM
Quote from: johnpower on April 15, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
Well done Galway much the better team , great start from Galway from a kerry point of view very disappointing did not function at all. it should be a good final.

I am wondering how many u21 players that played today will featrure in the senior championship?
Michael Daly is the only definite.
I think McDaids last 2 performances will put him right in the frame to feature.
Outside of that Cooke, Molloy & Sean Kelly are on the panel as well but probably won't feature.
I could see Darcy getting a call up when u21 campaign finishes
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 09:28:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 15, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
Didn't even see the Kerry goal. Some saying it should have been disallowed alright.

Just saw it on the News.
Looked to be illegal in my opinion.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
I thought it was fine. Did he not lose control of the ball and then flick the loose ball into the net?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 15, 2017, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 15, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
Tiredness only comes into the equation on a defeat.
If there is some validity in the "tired out" explanation, the tiredness generally comes into the equation in the last quarter of a game and it can only reasonably be a factor if the game was still in the balance. In this game, Dublin dominated the game from the first minute.

They were much the better team by miles al over.I just was surprised how poor donegal were and doubt they are generally that poor.

Is con o'callaghan in the dublin senior squad?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
I thought it was fine. Did he not lose control of the ball and then flick the loose ball into the net?
Possibly or did he go to pass it and then knocked it in?
Anyway the Ref allowed ito.
Can't understand why Kerry were such absolute raging favourites.
55/45 I could understand but total mad favourites.......

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 15, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 15, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
I thought it was fine. Did he not lose control of the ball and then flick the loose ball into the net?
Possibly or did he go to pass it and then knocked it in?
Anyway the Ref allowed ito.
Can't understand why Kerry were such absolute raging favourites.
55/45 I could understand but total mad favourites.......

They are raging hot favourites because people put heaps of money on them. No other reason!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 15, 2017, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on April 15, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
I thought it was fine. Did he not lose control of the ball and then flick the loose ball into the net?

Yep, lost possession first.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 11:56:40 PM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Talking shite as usual.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 16, 2017, 12:21:35 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Sligo are a very decent side. Their schools teams have been doing very well in Connacht in recent years. I think people  just saw Galway needing extra time to beat them and Kerry hammering Cork as Kerry being light years ahead of Galway. Maybe Sligo were a lot better than many people (especially outside Connacht) thought and Cork not nearly as good as people assumed they would be.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:57:47 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I wouldn't be that negative about Galway today. They closedown the game well in the last ten minutes and didn't panic when Kerry got the goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 02:54:42 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:57:47 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I wouldn't be that negative about Galway today. They closedown the game well in the last ten minutes and didn't panic when Kerry got the goal.

They're a fine side but the 2011 team destroyed everyone and the 2013 was loaded with 2011 holdovers and a top class FF line. That we should have beat in the CF, but that's another story..

Last four times Galway have won Connacht they've won the AI..
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 16, 2017, 03:12:24 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I'm not the biggest Gerry Fahy fan but that was always a talented Galway side. Just didn't think it would be quite good enough to beat a Kerry side backboned by 3 minor winning teams.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 16, 2017, 04:38:00 AM
When a big county like Galway have their structures right and good coaches involved with teams then they'll always be competitive
It is interesting the number of West Galway players who are prominent
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 16, 2017, 09:15:27 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 15, 2017, 11:56:40 PM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Talking shite as usual.

How so? What have i said that you disagree with?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Galway might be the second best team in the country yet.

Serious dent in confidence for Kerry and takes the wind out of their sails as regards Dublin regressing.

We aren't going anywhere
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Itchy on April 16, 2017, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

Don't think you could blame tiredness. They were out of ideas from the first minute. When Cavan faced a similar issue in 2011 they only had 2 days recovery, Donegal had 4 and had an easy enough ulster final win too. Dublin were just much better I think.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 16, 2017, 11:11:26 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

Yeah the Ulster provincial council should be ashamed given the shambles they mafe of ulster championship. Asking the winners to play a well rested Dublin was a ridiculous ask. Donegal can only have been tired no doubt about that. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 16, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
There goes Jack O'Connor's chance of managing the seniors again. In the long run this might be the best thing ever happened these players.

Dislike him as much as the next person but premature much?

Did he refuse to sign your colouring book too (like Nigel D)? ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
So Dublin are in their 4th u21 final since 2010, they have also appeared in 4 other finals however it took them 46 years to achieve that. It's like something magical happened in the early noughties.....
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 16, 2017, 12:49:11 PM
Out of the 19 players who saw action yesterday only 7 of them were overage for next year if the 21's had carried on.

Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 16, 2017, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
So Dublin are in their 4th u21 final since 2010, they have also appeared in 4 other finals however it took them 46 years to achieve that. It's like something magical happened in the early noughties.....

All the talk of Kerry dominating at this grade. The Golden generation and what not! Crazy expectation to be put on a bunch of players at such an early stage of their development.

The Mad thing is Dublin's recent dominance at underage has been dismissed - almost ignored in comparison, while Kerry's couple of Minor titles out of no where have been seen as a pre-requisite to future success.

The denial of where Dublin football is at is Scary! This is no fad or temporary dominance. If the Football community is looking to Kerry alone to curtail this dominance the game is in a very sad place!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: yellowcard on April 16, 2017, 01:26:11 PM
People blaming tiredness on the Donegal defeat are clutching at straws. These are young lads of 19-21 very few of whom probably have full time jobs. There was ample time for recovery and it's not like they ran Dublin close. Dublin were comfortably the better side and Donegal were victims of their own safety first system that they employ. They have several talented footballers but that system does not allow for creative flair, it's robotic and dull.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Main Street on April 16, 2017, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.
What does that say for the plight of Cork football, if their new generation is offering so little at present?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.
Nah
Mayo have won 2 under 21 all Irelands in recent years
Also the spread of titles is far less concentrated

Roscommon, Kildare, Antrim and Westmeath have all won titles whereas none have won senior since the 40s if they have at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Under-21_Football_Championship#Top_winners
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Gael85 on April 16, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
Kerry bringing in a box of whiskey to dressing room before game   :)

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/watch-kerry-mens-remedy-for-under-21-defeat-is-pure-irish-120615
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.

Never seen anyone call under 21 football senior football before. Maybe you meant adult football as once over the age of 18 you are meant to be an adult?

The two most physically developed teams won the semi finals yesterdays the most physical players are the most likely players to step up to senior county football.

I'm nearly sure Kerry were tested before yesterday against Clare was it? The hammering of Cork seem to do more harm than good to the Kerry young lads mindsets.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on April 16, 2017, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 16, 2017, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
So Dublin are in their 4th u21 final since 2010, they have also appeared in 4 other finals however it took them 46 years to achieve that. It's like something magical happened in the early noughties.....

All the talk of Kerry dominating at this grade. The Golden generation and what not! Crazy expectation to be put on a bunch of players at such an early stage of their development.

The Mad thing is Dublin's recent dominance at underage has been dismissed - almost ignored in comparison, while Kerry's couple of Minor titles out of no where have been seen as a pre-requisite to future success.

The denial of where Dublin football is at is Scary! This is no fad or temporary dominance. If the Football community is looking to Kerry alone to curtail this dominance the game is in a very sad place!
Dublin minors are handy this year. Lad called James Doran from Na Fianna is a player, remember the name
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2017, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 02:54:42 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:57:47 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Slane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I wouldn't be that negative about Galway today. They closedown the game well in the last ten minutes and didn't panic when Kerry got the goal.

They're a fine side but the 2011 team destroyed everyone and the 2013 was loaded with 2011 holdovers and a top class FF line. That we should have beat in the CF, but that's another story..

Last four times Galway have won Connacht they've won the AI..

The current Galway U21 team is stronger with more panel strength in depth than the 2013 U21s Kildare and Cork that Galway beat in the AI series two sides that Roscommon probably would have beaten if they won Connacht 3 years ago.

Only doubts about this current Galway U21s group is consistency Kerry Sligo performances chalk and cheese as was the 1st and 2nd halves v Leitrim and their doubts about the manager but I doubt his previous manager gigs had such a strong management team of Tim Rabbitte (fitness), Tomas Mannion (defence coach), Barry Cullinane (midfield coach), Val Daly (forwards coach), Ciaran O Fatharta (selector) and goalkeeping coach Gay Mitchell.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 07:42:38 PM
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Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Slane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I wouldn't be that negative about Galway today. They closedown the game well in the last ten minutes and didn't panic when Kerry got the goal.

They're a fine side but the 2011 team destroyed everyone and the 2013 was loaded with 2011 holdovers and a top class FF line. That we should have beat in the CF, but that's another story..

Last four times Galway have won Connacht they've won the AI..

The current Galway U21 team is stronger with more panel strength in depth than the 2013 U21s Kildare and Cork that Galway beat in the AI series two sides that Roscommon probably would have beaten if they won Connacht 3 years ago.

Only doubts about this current Galway U21s group is consistency Kerry Sligo performances chalk and cheese as was the 1st and 2nd halves v Leitrim and their doubts about the manager but I doubt his previous manager gigs had such a strong management team of Tim Rabbitte (fitness), Tomas Mannion (defence coach), Barry Cullinane (midfield coach), Val Daly (forwards coach), Ciaran O Fatharta (selector) and goalkeeping coach Gay Mitchell.

The 2013 had a bunch of third year players already knowing what it took to win an U21 AI, an incredible luxury for an underage team to have. A FF line of Adrian Varley, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke speaks for itself - two are at least part-time starters for Galway now and the third probably would be too if Walsh didn't have a set on him. The current Galway U21s are quite wasteful.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2017, 08:56:43 PM
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Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Slane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I wouldn't be that negative about Galway today. They closedown the game well in the last ten minutes and didn't panic when Kerry got the goal.

They're a fine side but the 2011 team destroyed everyone and the 2013 was loaded with 2011 holdovers and a top class FF line. That we should have beat in the CF, but that's another story..

Last four times Galway have won Connacht they've won the AI..

The current Galway U21 team is stronger with more panel strength in depth than the 2013 U21s Kildare and Cork that Galway beat in the AI series two sides that Roscommon probably would have beaten if they won Connacht 3 years ago.

Only doubts about this current Galway U21s group is consistency Kerry Sligo performances chalk and cheese as was the 1st and 2nd halves v Leitrim and their doubts about the manager but I doubt his previous manager gigs had such a strong management team of Tim Rabbitte (fitness), Tomas Mannion (defence coach), Barry Cullinane (midfield coach), Val Daly (forwards coach), Ciaran O Fatharta (selector) and goalkeeping coach Gay Mitchell.

The 2013 had a bunch of third year players already knowing what it took to win an U21 AI, an incredible luxury for an underage team to have. A FF line of Adrian Varley, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke speaks for itself - two are at least part-time starters for Galway now and the third probably would be too if Walsh didn't have a set on him. The current Galway U21s are quite wasteful.
The two main midfielders from 2011 more than a bunch and Flynn was struggling for fitness in 2013. Varley is a sub and unless Ian Burke bulks up its hard to see him making it at senior level. And remember a good number of those Galway 2013 AI winners lost to Leitrim the following year and they weren't a decent Leitrim like this year.

The current Galway U21s are more inconsistent. Opening ten minutes yesterday nobody was calling Galway wasteful when it looked like they would put up a cricket score. Galway are onto a winner if the likes of Daly,Cooke,McDaid,Darcy etc are nurtured right.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2017, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2017, 06:39:08 PM
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Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Slane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

I wouldn't be that negative about Galway today. They closedown the game well in the last ten minutes and didn't panic when Kerry got the goal.

They're a fine side but the 2011 team destroyed everyone and the 2013 was loaded with 2011 holdovers and a top class FF line. That we should have beat in the CF, but that's another story..

Last four times Galway have won Connacht they've won the AI..

The current Galway U21 team is stronger with more panel strength in depth than the 2013 U21s Kildare and Cork that Galway beat in the AI series two sides that Roscommon probably would have beaten if they won Connacht 3 years ago.

Only doubts about this current Galway U21s group is consistency Kerry Sligo performances chalk and cheese as was the 1st and 2nd halves v Leitrim and their doubts about the manager but I doubt his previous manager gigs had such a strong management team of Tim Rabbitte (fitness), Tomas Mannion (defence coach), Barry Cullinane (midfield coach), Val Daly (forwards coach), Ciaran O Fatharta (selector) and goalkeeping coach Gay Mitchell.

Bit of revisionism going on here that Kildare side kicked 20 wides in a 5 point defeat, dominated possession throughout the game just had a typical Kildare game against Galway.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 16, 2017, 10:27:22 PM
Yeah, I remember Kildare were shockingly bad in front of the posts but had plenty of possession.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: macdanger2 on April 16, 2017, 10:39:01 PM
No natural footballers I suppose
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2017, 10:51:32 PM
Dare I say the Kildare U-21 team that didn't win Leinster last year was stronger than the Kildare side that won Leinster in 2013?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Banter Panther on April 16, 2017, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.
Those last two comments are another example of why yesterday's loss might be the best thing to ever happen them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 16, 2017, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 16, 2017, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: Beffs on April 15, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 15, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Kerry young lads believing the shite propaganda from Spillane and Co about being the new golden generation. On the other hand Galway did the work on the pitch
These lads are not the kind to believe the hype, they've just had a bad day at the office - can happen the best. People will only jump at the chance to have a pop at a beaten Kerry team, I understand that, but these lads are outstanding footballers, and this might do them the power of good in the long run.

I've a horrible feeling you are right. A loss like today, could do them a world of good in the long run.
Grasp away at the straws. They got what they deserve from their effort. You might get three seniors out of them

It's a bit harder to take the hype serious after they got played off the field by the poorest Galway side to win Connacht in at least 12 years, managed by someone no one in Galway had faith in to begin with. Far cry from the team that was supposed to have Dublin quaking in their boots at senior.

Those last two comments are another example of why yesterday's loss might be the best thing to ever happen them.

Roundabout logic.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Banter Panther on April 16, 2017, 11:19:06 PM
You haven't heard the last of these lads, as desperately as I know full well you want to believe otherwise.  ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 16, 2017, 11:19:06 PM
You haven't heard the last of these lads, as desperately as I know full well you want to believe otherwise.  ;)

Hearing about them isn't the problem they face.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Banter Panther on April 16, 2017, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 16, 2017, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 16, 2017, 11:19:06 PM
You haven't heard the last of these lads, as desperately as I know full well you want to believe otherwise.  ;)

Hearing about them isn't the problem they face.
They'll make a miserable boy of you yet heigh.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on April 17, 2017, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2017, 10:51:32 PM
Dare I say the Kildare U-21 team that didn't win Leinster last year was stronger than the Kildare side that won Leinster in 2013?

Apart from arguably the full forward line the 2013 team was stronger in every line - 2015: Neil Flynn, Healy, McCormack v 2013: Fogarty, Brophy, Dowling. That 2015 full forward line could be all starting for the seniors this summer if Dan Flynn is unavailable. Looking at the 2013 team Fogarty has fallen off the radar now after showing good early promise. He lacks the pace to be a serious option at senior level. Brophy is with the West Coast Eagles. Dowling is much more suited to midfield and blows very hot and cold.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 17, 2017, 11:18:47 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 16, 2017, 01:26:11 PM
People blaming tiredness on the Donegal defeat are clutching at straws. These are young lads of 19-21 very few of whom probably have full time jobs. There was ample time for recovery and it's not like they ran Dublin close. Dublin were comfortably the better side and Donegal were victims of their own safety first system that they employ. They have several talented footballers but that system does not allow for creative flair, it's robotic and dull.

Right off the Joe Brolly hymn sheet.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 17, 2017, 02:40:13 PM
John Fallon
April 17 2017 2:30 AM

Galway's preparations for this All-Ireland semi-final at Cusack Park included a full training session in midweek at the Ennis venue, where they paid particular attention to shooting into the breeze.
No surprise then that when they had the wind in the opening half on Saturday the scores flowed in an early blitz, which saw them lead by 1-7 to 0-1 after just 10 minutes.
Kerry, winners of the last three All-Ireland minor titles, and ill-prepared for such an onslaught after a stroll through Munster, were simply unable to cope with it.

The fact that they stayed in the game to cut the gap to a goal going into the final quarter had more to do with Galway not finishing them off in the opening half, with the Tribesmen fluffing three gilt-edged goal chances in addition to shooting eight wides to none when they had the wind.
There is no doubt Galway football is on the rise and a week after securing the Division 2 league crown and promotion, Kevin Walsh's team will head into the defence of their Connacht SFC title with a host of promising U-21s ready to step up.

Some already have and Michael Daly again showed his class on Saturday, on a day when Galway's traditional style of football was manifested by the dominance of Peter Cooke and Cein D'Arcy in midfield, the brilliance of Cillian McDaid at wing-back and a forward unit which would not have been flattered had they finished with double what they achieved.

Kerry, in contrast, never got moving and three points from play accurately sums up their difficulties on a day when only Killian Spillane, Tom's son, showed anything close to what's required at this level.

Galway manager Gerry Fahy said he knew from the start of the year that this group was special and he now wants them to finish the job against Dublin on Saturday week, in what will be the last ever U-21 All-Ireland final.
"Right from the day that we met, you could sense from our lads that they were on a mission. They were going to give it everything they had and thankfully it worked out well for us," said Fahy.

"These lads hadn't done well at minor level, they would have been disappointed that things didn't go well for them. We were very determined to win a Connacht championship. We won that, we were hoping it wouldn't satisfy us and now we are in a final we are going to have a right good crack at it.
Galway players celebrate after the EirGrid GAA Football All-Ireland U21 Championship Semi-Final.

"We should give credit to our team as we have good technical footballers. That made the difference. We were battle-hardened. We were tested all the way, we pushed every day we went out. Maybe it was a factor at the end."

His side had a dream start, a string of passes sending Dessie Conneely through and he blasted to the top-left corner after just 21 seconds.
The points flowed from all angles and it was 1-7 to 0-1 with just 10 minutes gone. Three golden goal opportunities were not seized by Galway, though, and they had to be content with a 1-9 to 0-4 interval lead.

A contentious goal from Matthew O'Sullivan 21 seconds after the restart, and some points from Spillane and a second free from goalkeeper Shane Ryan, cut the gap to a goal going into the final quarter.

However, then midfielder Barry O'Sullivan was sent off when he picked up a second yellow card and Galway took control again and pulled away, with impressive sub Colin Brady wrapping it up with their second goal.

Kerry manager Jack O'Connor, after initially declining to speak to the media, admitted in a brief interview that the better team won, but he was unhappy with Kildare referee Brendan Cawley.
"I just thought on the day that we didn't get a whole pile of breaks from that man. Galway seemed to get frees a bit easier than we got frees," he said.

"There was a case in point when Jordan Kiely appeared to be fouled on the Galway '21' and play went on and Galway wound up getting a handy enough free down the other side.

"Look, we are only splitting hairs there. I think Galway were better, but certainly on the day we didn't seem to get a lot of breaks," added a disgruntled O'Connor.

Scorers - Galway: P Cooke 0-5 (3f), C Brady 1-0, D Conneely 1-0, S Kelly, M Daly 0-2 each, K Molloy, C McDaid, C D'Arcy, R Finnerty, P Mannion 0-1 each.

Kerry: K Spillane 0-4 (3f), M O'Sullivan 1-0, J Kiely 1-0, S Ryan (2f), M Flaherty 0-2 each, C Geaney (1f), S O'Shea (1f) 0-1 each.

Galway: R O Beolain; L Kelly, S O Ceallaigh, R Greene; K Molloy, D McHugh, C McDaid; P Cooke, C D'Arcy; S Kelly, M Daly, P Mannion; R Finnerty, E Finnerty, D Conneely. Subs: C Brady for Mannion (41), M Boyle for R Finnerty (54), C Brennan for D'Arcy (56), E Lee for McDaid (60).
Kerry: S Ryan; Tom Leo O'Sullivan, J Foley, Tom O'Sullivan; B O Beaglaoich, B O Seanachain, G White; A Barry, B O'Sullivan; B Barrett, S O'Shea, M Flaherty; K Spillane, M O'Sullivan, C Geaney. Subs: M Burns for Barrett (29), R O Se for O Seanachain (41), J Kiely for S O'Shea (45), J Morgan for White (55), D O'Brien for O Beaglaoich (60).

Ref - B Cawley (Kildare)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: sligoman2 on April 17, 2017, 03:44:47 PM
It wasn't the ref, Galway should have won by a lot more if they took their chances.

Kerry looked shell shocked, had no plan and couldn't recover from the early Galway onslaught.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 17, 2017, 04:12:43 PM
Always disappointing to see Kerry folk mentioning the performance of the referee after a defeat where they were comprehensively outplayed but given that they rarely lose football matches at any grade, it seems to be very much par for the course with them after defeats. No mention or explanation from Jack O'Connor in that article of how his charges weren't at the pitch of the game at all, how were such raging favourites so flat on the day? Certainly this was more the reason for their defeat than the referee.
If Kerry had made an unlikely comeback to win that match I'd hope that Gerry Fahy would be talking afterwards about Galway wasting the umpteen chances they had to win rather than to blame the referee for the first Kerry goal which should have clearly been disallowed.

Indeed if Galway had put the boot into them when totally on top Kerry would have been massacred, the 4 point margin was very flattering given how the match unfolded, which was totally unexpected by everyone outside of that Galway squad.

The Galway lads will have to be less profligate with their scoring opportunities in the final to be in with a chance, impossible to keep up the conversion ratio of the first ten minutes but equally they blew a lot of easy chances after that, nice to have that type of problem as something to work on ahead of the final though.

Always a danger of a flat final performance after playing very well in the semi final but in the overall scheme of things the most important issue for the future is to see how many of these young men will progress to the senior ranks and be good players for Galway at that level. Daly, Cooke and McDaid look the most likely but as we've seen before there's no guarantees for any player to make it.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 17, 2017, 04:21:08 PM
Says all you need to know that he was so petulant he first refused to do an interview. Straight from the Phil Taylor sore loser/gracious winner playbook.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 18, 2017, 12:44:47 PM
Very sour from O'Connor, Kerry scored twice as many points from frees than Galway did. As for the lad who got sent off I read somewhere it was likely he got sent off for persistent fouling and he's obviously ignoring their extremely dodgy first goal.

Lots to work on from a Galway point of view, they had nearly twice as many attempts at the posts compared to Kerry. Galway had 34 whilst Kerry had 19, that won't happen in the final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 18, 2017, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 18, 2017, 12:44:47 PM
Very sour from O'Connor, Kerry scored twice as many points from frees than Galway did. As for the lad who got sent off I read somewhere it was likely he got sent off for persistent fouling and he's obviously ignoring their extremely dodgy first goal.

Lots to work on from a Galway point of view, they had nearly twice as many attempts at the posts compared to Kerry. Galway had 34 whilst Kerry had 19, that won't happen in the final.
I don't think it's a good idea to talk about the referee afterwards regardless but you'd maybe say something if it was a closely contested game throughout where each and every decision could be the difference between winning and losing which was far from the case on Saturday.
We could have won that game by 10+ points and were by far the better team throughout.
All it does is make O'Connor come across as a sore loser.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 18, 2017, 01:24:59 PM
The officials, players, back-room staff, county board and bus driver have all let Jack down badly here.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 18, 2017, 04:19:36 PM
Final is in Tullamore April 29 @ 5pm.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 06:24:05 PM
The fella who was sent off was fouling all day long and would have got the line at some point.

To be fair they were closing a bit to this point but o'connor should maybe ask himself why he didn't bring what looked like their most potent forward on sooner.

Also i do think some refs would have disallowed kerry's first goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: orangeman on April 20, 2017, 09:38:58 AM
That's the great thing about football. Anything can happen. Galway seemingly shouldn't even have been turning up to their semi final and whilst the other semi final was supposedly a tighter one, a lot of people were expecting a Kerry Donegal final.

Dublin should win the final but Galway won't be reading the script.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Hound on April 20, 2017, 12:04:08 PM
Quote from: orangeman on April 20, 2017, 09:38:58 AM

Dublin should win the final but Galway won't be reading the script.

Paddy Power has Galway as 5/6 favourites. Dublin 6/5.
Boylesports have the exact opposite.
Ladbrokes have them both at evens.
The 15/2 draw will have plenty of takers I'd say.

Nobody suggesting there's a script out there with the Dubs as strong favourites!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 20, 2017, 05:52:39 PM
So Dublin u21s have opted out of club championship this weekend. Donegal asked them to put their semi final back a week and Dublin said no because of club championship commitments.  :o

The very serious issue here is Mr GPA Dessie Farrell asking his Dublin players not to play for their clubs. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 20, 2017, 09:17:33 PM
Quote from: ck on April 20, 2017, 05:52:39 PM
So Dublin u21s have opted out of club championship this weekend. Donegal asked them to put their semi final back a week and Dublin said no because of club championship commitments.  :o

The very serious issue here is Mr GPA Dessie Farrell asking his Dublin players not to play for their clubs. Disgraceful.

The only scummy thing was using the championship games as an excuse to bully Donegal. I doubt Dessie had much convincing to do to get lads to commit for an AI final over a club championship game.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: cornetto on April 26, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
Looking back at the Dublin v donegal semi final,Dublins defensive shield is top class,every game on the way to the final,they have controlled the game.galway on the other hand beat leitrim in the first half,no show in the second 2pts I think.beat mayo well enough, sight of green and red .sligo stuck with them all the way,extra time the difference.Galway were well motivated for kerry,I just have a bad feeling galway may not reach the same level of performance,will be alot of long range shooting,in a tight game, whether it's daly for galway,or Callaghan for the dubs that show up  will be the winner.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 26, 2017, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: cornetto on April 26, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
Looking back at the Dublin v donegal semi final,Dublins defensive shield is top class,every game on the way to the final,they have controlled the game.galway on the other hand beat leitrim in the first half,no show in the second 2pts I think.beat mayo well enough, sight of green and red .sligo stuck with them all the way,extra time the difference.Galway were well motivated for kerry,I just have a bad feeling galway may not reach the same level of performance,will be alot of long range shooting,in a tight game, whether it's daly for galway,or Callaghan for the dubs that show up  will be the winner.
This Dublin U21 team are built on a solid defensive system alright and counter attack at pace. They remind me of the Dublin 2010 U21 team who got a number of senior defenders out of that side and top forward in Dean Rock.

Galway seem very inconsistent they fade out of games however if they can correct that they should win this final.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 26, 2017, 04:05:11 PM
Quote from: cornetto on April 26, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
Looking back at the Dublin v donegal semi final,Dublins defensive shield is top class,every game on the way to the final,they have controlled the game.galway on the other hand beat leitrim in the first half,no show in the second 2pts I think.beat mayo well enough, sight of green and red .sligo stuck with them all the way,extra time the difference.Galway were well motivated for kerry,I just have a bad feeling galway may not reach the same level of performance,will be alot of long range shooting,in a tight game, whether it's daly for galway,or Callaghan for the dubs that show up  will be the winner.
I think the Sligo match was a wake up call.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 26, 2017, 04:10:02 PM
It's hard to know with young lads what way it's going to go on the day, the Kerry players didn't turn up for the semi-final against us although I think they were complacent on the day and got a bit of a shock after the ball was thrown in, I can't see any Galway football team going against the Dubs being complacent at least.

Dublin do seem to have been the more consistent team throughout the competition which bodes well for them on Saturday, certainly - and no more than our Seniors - the U21's have been excellent in patches, not so great in others. Given how Dublin set-up I don't know if there's going to be as much good football on show as in the Kerry game, Galway definitely won't get as many scoring opportunities.

At the end of the day it's more important for Galway to get 2-3 (ideally more of course) good Senior players out of this batch, but it would of course be great for Galway to win more silverware to add to what's been a successful Spring in both codes already.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Taylor on April 26, 2017, 04:23:31 PM
Given the way Galway set up if they switch of in this game the Dubs could do serious damage and put the game out of sight.

Was refreshing to see Galway open the game v Kerry and go at them. Kerry were completely shell shocked.

Would love to see them win but if you can get evens on Dublin you should snap it up
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 26, 2017, 04:28:15 PM
Dessie has been doing his homework anyway. Don't think this game will be nearly as open as the Kerry game which was basically both sides kicking long kick outs and whoever wins it in midfield goes on the attack. I think Dessie will get plenty behind the ball and utilise more short kicks outs. Especially if he feels Galway have an advantage in midfield.

QuoteDessie Farrell is wary of the challenge that Galway will present to his Dublin team in the last-ever All-Ireland U21 FC final this weekend.

The "refreshing" Tribesmen recovered from a five-point interval deficit against defending champions Mayo en route to Connacht glory and led by 1-7 to 0-1 after ten minutes as they stunned competition favourites Kerry in their All-Ireland semi-final. Farrell accepts that the Dubs are in for a real battle at Tullamore on Saturday evening:

"They raced out of the blocks against Kerry and showed just how strong a team they are," he tells the Dublin GAA website. "I have watched that match back a number of times and the more times I look at it, the more impressed I am by them.

"They are strong in every line of the pitch with two excellent wing backs and their midfield pairing offered a great platform against Kerry. They have some excellent forwards too and have put up some decent tallies in their campaign so far.

"Their style of play is refreshing for the modern game and they have a manner of playing that is really enjoyable to watch. All the players seem very comfortable on the ball and we are under no illusions as to the extent of the challenge that they will present to us."
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Taylor on April 26, 2017, 04:36:01 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 26, 2017, 04:28:15 PM
Dessie has been doing his homework anyway. Don't think this game will be nearly as open as the Kerry game which was basically both sides kicking long kick outs and whoever wins it in midfield goes on the attack. I think Dessie will get plenty behind the ball and utilise more short kicks outs. Especially if he feels Galway have an advantage in midfield.

QuoteDessie Farrell is wary of the challenge that Galway will present to his Dublin team in the last-ever All-Ireland U21 FC final this weekend.

The "refreshing" Tribesmen recovered from a five-point interval deficit against defending champions Mayo en route to Connacht glory and led by 1-7 to 0-1 after ten minutes as they stunned competition favourites Kerry in their All-Ireland semi-final. Farrell accepts that the Dubs are in for a real battle at Tullamore on Saturday evening:

"They raced out of the blocks against Kerry and showed just how strong a team they are," he tells the Dublin GAA website. "I have watched that match back a number of times and the more times I look at it, the more impressed I am by them.

"They are strong in every line of the pitch with two excellent wing backs and their midfield pairing offered a great platform against Kerry. They have some excellent forwards too and have put up some decent tallies in their campaign so far.

"Their style of play is refreshing for the modern game and they have a manner of playing that is really enjoyable to watch. All the players seem very comfortable on the ball and we are under no illusions as to the extent of the challenge that they will present to us."

Cliches & soundbites.

Well done Dessie  ::) ::)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 27, 2017, 11:02:25 PM
Galway team v Dublin

1. Ronán Ó Beoláin (Mícheál Breathnach)

2. Liam Kelly (An Spidéal)
3. Séan Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. Rory Greene (Killannin)

5. Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
6. Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
7. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey)

8. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
9. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)

10. Séan Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Michael Daly - Capt. (Mountbellew/Moylough)
12. Paul Mannion (Kilconly)

13. Robert Finnerty (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew/Moylough)
15. Dessie Conneely (Maigh Cuilinn)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: cornetto on April 27, 2017, 11:59:41 PM
Was wondering would Kelly the corner back be replaced,was exposed a few times against kerry,maybe nothing better available,hopefully he has a "stormer" sat.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ck on April 28, 2017, 05:56:35 AM
Good luck to Galway. I picked them at the start of the year to win Connacht but no-one saw them beating Kerry. My fear for Galway is that dublin will smother them defensively. There wont be anything like the space there was against Kerry.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: The Hill is Blue on April 29, 2017, 12:23:29 AM
Dubs team v Galway

http://www.dublingaa.ie/news/u21-footballers-make-one-change-for-all-ireland-decider

COYBIB
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 01:55:13 AM
No offense to the hardcore in both countries that attend underage, but the only way this would be a lower attended AI final is if Cork were involved. In a way it's a pity that the grade didn't get to go out on a high but at least we might get a good match.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on April 29, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
Really looking to the game this eve.  Some very talented players in both teams and hopefully they will have the opportunity to showcase their skills on this occasion.  Gaillimh abu.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 29, 2017, 11:20:49 AM
Best of luck to the Galway lads this evening.
Very tough game to call.
The Dubs will have a lot more bodies back than Kerry did the last day out.
In saying that we're well capable of doing the business.
Gaillimh abu
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 05:18:28 PM
17 mins gone far from a classic thus far. Dublin leading 0-3 0-1 but wasteful should be further ahead.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
Galway have been equally wasteful but the element of surprise they had against Kerry is gone.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
The Galway keeper has kept them in it with two brilliant saves.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Buttofthehill on April 29, 2017, 05:26:27 PM
Full back starting to get on top too
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 29, 2017, 05:33:59 PM
Galway have been relatively poor but are only one point behind.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2017, 05:35:07 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
The Galway keeper has kept them in it with two brilliant saves.
Did he pick 1st one off ground outside the box?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 05:35:38 PM
Dublin 0-5 Galway 0-4 at half time. A game with more wides than scores unfortunately. Some top individual defensive performances on show it must be said.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 05:36:59 PM
Sean Andy having some game at full back for Galway. Imperious. Dublin not leaving the same space in defense that Kerry did though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 01:55:13 AM
No offense to the hardcore in both countries that attend underage, but the only way this would be a lower attended AI final is if Cork were involved. In a way it's a pity that the grade didn't get to go out on a high but at least we might get a good match.

Don't know about the rest of the ground but the stand is well packed. Looks like good attendance to me. But then I'm from Derry and we're used to poor attendance.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on April 29, 2017, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 29, 2017, 05:35:07 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
The Galway keeper has kept them in it with two brilliant saves.
Did he pick 1st one off ground outside the box?
Yes. Should have been a free in.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 01:55:13 AM
No offense to the hardcore in both countries that attend underage, but the only way this would be a lower attended AI final is if Cork were involved. In a way it's a pity that the grade didn't get to go out on a high but at least we might get a good match.

Don't know about the rest of the ground but the stand is well packed. Looks like good attendance to me. But then I'm from Derry and we're used to poor attendance.  :) :) :)
7,500 I think the attendance is today.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Buttofthehill on April 29, 2017, 05:54:04 PM
Midfield have taken over for Dublin.is there a strong breeze? Doesn't seem so going by the flags
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 05:56:37 PM
1-3 for the dubs in the opening 4 mins of the 2nd half can Galway recover?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 05:56:37 PM
1-3 for the dubs in the opening 4 mins of the 2nd half can Galway recover?

Nah, bruv.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 06:09:03 PM
Galway goal with 10 minutes to play. 1-10 to 1-6 now.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 06:14:20 PM
Galway so close to scoring a 2nd goal there and now miss a straightforward. free. Next attack Dublin score their 2nd goal. Game set and match.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Buttofthehill on April 29, 2017, 06:16:06 PM
YYYEEESSSS
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ashman on April 29, 2017, 06:18:20 PM
Dublin a far better team but the referee utterly black guarding Galway .  Worse I see in a while .
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Buttofthehill on April 29, 2017, 06:20:12 PM
I thought he let a lot go for both teams.dublin very disciplined at the back.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 06:23:12 PM
Another All Ireland for Dublin congratulations to them. Galway so disappointing on the day and on the balance of play they can have few complaints on the margin of defeat but what if they scored that goal shortly before Dublin scored their 2nd goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 29, 2017, 06:24:19 PM
Well done Dublin.
Better team on the day by far.
Dubs were much tighter at the back than we were.
There seemed to be oceans of space every time they attacked while the opposite was the case at the other end.
No complaints with the result.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
Just never got going today. Fair play to the dubs. Extremely well organised defensively and excellent on Cluxton like kick outs from their keeper. Savage work rate too. We just couldn't move the ball easily on them.  Amazing to think the Galway goal was the first one they've conceded in the entire campaign. We should get a few good players from that group though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 29, 2017, 06:29:35 PM
Lovely pass from the Dublin midfielder in the lead up to the Dublin penalty.
Great touch for a big man.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2017, 06:30:36 PM
The most improved county at u21 over the last 10 years. Dublin improve players in the 18-21 bracket like no other county. For those who think that Dublin have a golden generation think again they aren't going away.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2017, 06:30:36 PM
The most improved county at u21 over the last 10 years. Dublin improve players in the 18-21 bracket like no other county. For those who think that Dublin have a golden generation think again they aren't going away.

Goodbye GAA.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 29, 2017, 06:32:44 PM
The Dublin investment is paying off. 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2017! And to think pre-2003 they had no title  - nadda! Still there will be a denial out there that Dublin and moving away from the rest.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on April 29, 2017, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.

Game was over when Molloy was taken off! And he was fecked. He covered so much ground. Today was a lesson for Galway in playing football. You play open football - you get beat!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 06:39:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.

Ah Cooke will make it as well even though he didn't have his best game today. Sean Andy was outstanding. An exhibition of full back play. Given his size and strength I'd say he shouldn't even be too far from the senior team.

Overall though it did feel like we were a small bit naive today. Dublin don't play anything like what Kerry do and feels like we didn't anticipate it. I think Kerry would have lost that game too for the same reason.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 29, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 29, 2017, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.

Game was over when Molloy was taken off! And he was fecked. He covered so much ground. Today was a lesson for Galway in playing football. You play open football - you get beat!
Yeah it certainly seems that way. You give quality forwards space and man to man combat and you're asking for trouble.
They set up the same way against Kerry and it worked out but i think it's hard to be successful playing open football in modern Gaelic football.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Jinxy on April 29, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.

I hear a lot of people saying this.
What do you think the u-20 grade will look like?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: thebuzz on April 29, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 06:39:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.

Ah Cooke will make it as well even though he didn't have his best game today. Sean Andy was outstanding. An exhibition of full back play. Given his size and strength I'd say he shouldn't even be too far from the senior team.

Overall though it did feel like we were a small bit naive today. Dublin don't play anything like what Kerry do and feels like we didn't anticipate it. I think Kerry would have lost that game too for the same reason.

Looks like it wouldn't have mattered how long of a break Donegal got before the semi-final. The Dubs would still have been fit for them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 29, 2017, 07:09:59 PM
Hat's off to the Dubs, much the better team on the day, deservedly the champions, as has been mentioned they were setup like a Senior team, had their homework on Galway done and played with an intensity that Galway couldn't match today.
The ht score not a reflection of the match to that point and the final 6 point margin flatters Galway, I thought we were beat all over the pitch from early on.
Sean Andy at FB the only man who played really well today for Galway, powerful performance from him in the face of adversity.
Will be disappointing for the players but there can be no complaints in the face of such a comprehensive defeat, no one in Galway will be pulling a Jack O'Connor on it I would hope!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2017, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 29, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 29, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
The amount of sloppy passes and misses from Galway today was unreal. Why was Molloy taken off? He was one of the best Galway players on display. Michael Daly was anonymous today, needed more from him and Peter Cooke if we were to have a chance today. Still, on the bright side, we have at least 3 seniors coming from that side, Sean Andy, McDaid and Molloy. Well done to the Dubs, such a pity they're getting rid of this competition.

I hear a lot of people saying this.
What do you think the u-20 grade will look like?
It will look like a diluted competition in comparison to the U21 grade. The best U20s won't be allowed to play if on the their senior panel. The U20 grade played in the middle of summer instead of February to April if games ends in draws we'll have the nonsense of 45s to decide them.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on April 29, 2017, 09:03:59 PM
Well done to the Dubs, thoroughly dominant and deserved win - the score line flattered us in the end. 
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Mayo Border on April 29, 2017, 10:42:56 PM
Well done Dublin. Great win. Excellent running game bit like your seniors. Could have got a couple more goals. But well done Galway also. You made this game competitive. 4 points down in second half and hit the post. Dublin snuffed out the Galway threats, competed well in midfield and were clinical with those tap in goals. Game played in good spirits.  No Philly or Dermo carry on. What a goal from McDaid. Galway have some serious prospects coming through. How about Sean Andy at full back.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
Just never got going today. Fair play to the dubs. Extremely well organised defensively and excellent on Cluxton like kick outs from their keeper. Savage work rate too. We just couldn't move the ball easily on them.  Amazing to think the Galway goal was the first one they've conceded in the entire campaign. We should get a few good players from that group though.
Reape scored in Tuam.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 29, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
Just never got going today. Fair play to the dubs. Extremely well organised defensively and excellent on Cluxton like kick outs from their keeper. Savage work rate too. We just couldn't move the ball easily on them.  Amazing to think the Galway goal was the first one they've conceded in the entire campaign. We should get a few good players from that group though.
Reape scored in Tuam.

Against Dublin? Some man!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: ballinaman on April 30, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 29, 2017, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 29, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 29, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
Just never got going today. Fair play to the dubs. Extremely well organised defensively and excellent on Cluxton like kick outs from their keeper. Savage work rate too. We just couldn't move the ball easily on them.  Amazing to think the Galway goal was the first one they've conceded in the entire campaign. We should get a few good players from that group though.
Reape scored in Tuam.

Against Dublin? Some man!
Apologies, misread!
Commiserations Galway.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 08:32:00 AM
Fair play to the Dubs. If that Galway shot had gone in the result might have been different.
The main thing from a Galway pov is adding a few class players to the panel.

Under 21 was good for Mayo as well. A long sequence of losing all Ireland finals was broken in this grade.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Tubberman on April 30, 2017, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 08:32:00 AM
Fair play to the Dubs. If that Galway shot had gone in the result might have been different.
The main thing from a Galway pov is adding a few class players to the panel.

Under 21 was good for Mayo as well. A long sequence of losing all Ireland finals was broken in this grade.

We won the minor all Ireland in 2013
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 30, 2017, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on April 30, 2017, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 08:32:00 AM
Fair play to the Dubs. If that Galway shot had gone in the result might have been different.
The main thing from a Galway pov is adding a few class players to the panel.

Under 21 was good for Mayo as well. A long sequence of losing all Ireland finals was broken in this grade.

We won the minor all Ireland in 2013

Maybe he was referring to the 06 AIF. It's a pity that's the last u21 game. Well done to the Dubs.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 30, 2017, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on April 30, 2017, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 08:32:00 AM
Fair play to the Dubs. If that Galway shot had gone in the result might have been different.
The main thing from a Galway pov is adding a few class players to the panel.

Under 21 was good for Mayo as well. A long sequence of losing all Ireland finals was broken in this grade.

We won the minor all Ireland in 2013

2006 was the first time Mayo won an all Ireland since the minor win in 1985

The Mayo record in Under 21 was quite good.

Maybe he was referring to the 06 AIF. It's a pity that's the last u21 game. Well done to the Dubs.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on April 30, 2017, 12:20:24 PM
Any reason why the final wasn't in croker?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 01:16:51 PM
Overall, Mayo have a better record than Galway at both minor and Under 21
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2017, 01:19:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?
Galway v Cavan final in 2011 was played in Croke park. This years final was never to be played in Croke park though.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: macdanger2 on April 30, 2017, 01:29:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2017, 01:19:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?
Galway v Cavan final in 2011 was played in Croke park. This years final was never to be played in Croke park though.

My nephew (a dub) was asking after the semis would the final be in croke park - I said no, there wouldn't be enough of a crowd for Croker; he said "oh right, parnell park so?"  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: DJGaliv on April 30, 2017, 01:39:44 PM
Fair play to Dublin, the better team certainly on the day.
McHugh, Molloy, Sean Andy, Cooke all did very well. It was probably too much of a step up for our two former minor corner forwards, but they will have learned loads from this. Was slightly disappointed that we didn't see more changes during the game, Daly was nullified for large periods when being marked by a small speedy player. Would it have been worth bringing him out to midfield to get him into the game. He is a classy player, and can use this as a learning experience. He was brilliant against Kildare when he came on a couple of weeks ago.

With people bemoaning this competition ending, I have to speak up. Yeah the quality won't be as good, but it's not fair to have players made to play and train for so many teams - college/u21/senior. It's bad news for the couch supporter, but for these players it is for the best.
I don't think it is a question of playing too many games per se, maybe it is the fact they are training on so many different teams who are looking for them to peak at different times of year which is just impossible.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on April 30, 2017, 02:19:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2017, 01:19:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?
Galway v Cavan final in 2011 was played in Croke park. This years final was never to be played in Croke park though.
Pretty sure that game was in Croker only because it was a curtain raiser to the division 1 hurling final between Dublin and Kilkenny.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 30, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
The simple thing to do was to rearrange college competitions but it was bizarrely untouched and more popular and better competition was scrapped.

On yesterdays final and in hindsight that Galway U21 outfit were probably too inconsistent to ever win this All Ireland and especially when they came up against a very consistent and well organised team as Dublin were.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 30, 2017, 03:08:05 PM
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/dublins-21-final-victory-evidence-rivals-ominous-trend-121994?utm_content=bufferaa74b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/dublins-21-final-victory-evidence-rivals-ominous-trend-121994?utm_content=bufferaa74b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

Definitely reads the board.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 30, 2017, 03:08:05 PM
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Definitely reads the board.
I think a lot of people do, Dinny. The board is top notch for current issues
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on April 30, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?

Guess my question was more why do u21 players not get chance to represent their county in an all ireland final in croker?  Im sure for many of them it could be the only opportunity they get to play in croker.   An u21 final would be as big an occasion as a junior club football final or a ladies all ireland final or a vocational schools all ireland final imo all off which get their day out in croke park
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on May 01, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on April 30, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?

Guess my question was more why do u21 players not get chance to represent their county in an all ireland final in croker?  Im sure for many of them it could be the only opportunity they get to play in croker.   An u21 final would be as big an occasion as a junior club football final or a ladies all ireland final or a vocational schools all ireland final imo all off which get their day out in croke park

Fùck no. U21 AI finals were great in more intimate grounds like Tullamore. Atmosphere would be lost in a cavern like Croke Park with only a max of 15k or so attending. This attitude of playing games in big grounds - Croker or, at club level, county grounds - simply for the sake of it has to stop.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on May 01, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
Play everything in Kiltoom ::)
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on May 01, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 01, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on April 30, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?

Guess my question was more why do u21 players not get chance to represent their county in an all ireland final in croker?  Im sure for many of them it could be the only opportunity they get to play in croker.   An u21 final would be as big an occasion as a junior club football final or a ladies all ireland final or a vocational schools all ireland final imo all off which get their day out in croke park

Fùck no. U21 AI finals were great in more intimate grounds like Tullamore. Atmosphere would be lost in a cavern like Croke Park with only a max of 15k or so attending. This attitude of playing games in big grounds - Croker or, at club level, county grounds - simply for the sake of it has to stop.

Agreed, bringing 15k and less up to the big smoke and into a stadium the size of Croker for some finals is a bit of a joke. No athmosphere inside or outside the stadium.  Spread the wealth. Tullamore, Portlaoise, Ennis, Breffini  are more in need of a boost to the local economy/community.

Besides Dublin get enough home games as it is!
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on May 01, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 30, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
The simple thing to do was to rearrange college competitions but it was bizarrely untouched and more popular and better competition was scrapped.

On yesterdays final and in hindsight that Galway U21 outfit were probably too inconsistent to ever win this All Ireland and especially when they came up against a very consistent and well organised team as Dublin were.

The reason for this is that the GAA has pretty much zero power to force the 3rd levels to make any changes.



Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on May 02, 2017, 12:33:24 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 01, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 01, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on April 30, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?

Guess my question was more why do u21 players not get chance to represent their county in an all ireland final in croker?  Im sure for many of them it could be the only opportunity they get to play in croker.   An u21 final would be as big an occasion as a junior club football final or a ladies all ireland final or a vocational schools all ireland final imo all off which get their day out in croke park

Fùck no. U21 AI finals were great in more intimate grounds like Tullamore. Atmosphere would be lost in a cavern like Croke Park with only a max of 15k or so attending. This attitude of playing games in big grounds - Croker or, at club level, county grounds - simply for the sake of it has to stop.

Agreed, bringing 15k and less up to the big smoke and into a stadium the size of Croker for some finals is a bit of a joke. No athmosphere inside or outside the stadium.  Spread the wealth. Tullamore, Portlaoise, Ennis, Breffini  are more in need of a boost to the local economy/community.

Besides Dublin get enough home games as it is!

I disagree.  If you were to ask any player I would say 90% or more would love to play in croke park snd would put that ahead of a bit nore of an atmosphere at some random county ground which wont be at capacity either.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Syferus on May 02, 2017, 12:37:14 AM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on May 02, 2017, 12:33:24 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 01, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 01, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on April 30, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
The U21 final is never in Croke Park. In an case do Dublin teams not get enough home games as it js?

Guess my question was more why do u21 players not get chance to represent their county in an all ireland final in croker?  Im sure for many of them it could be the only opportunity they get to play in croker.   An u21 final would be as big an occasion as a junior club football final or a ladies all ireland final or a vocational schools all ireland final imo all off which get their day out in croke park

Fùck no. U21 AI finals were great in more intimate grounds like Tullamore. Atmosphere would be lost in a cavern like Croke Park with only a max of 15k or so attending. This attitude of playing games in big grounds - Croker or, at club level, county grounds - simply for the sake of it has to stop.

Agreed, bringing 15k and less up to the big smoke and into a stadium the size of Croker for some finals is a bit of a joke. No athmosphere inside or outside the stadium.  Spread the wealth. Tullamore, Portlaoise, Ennis, Breffini  are more in need of a boost to the local economy/community.

Besides Dublin get enough home games as it is!

I disagree.  If you were to ask any player I would say 90% or more would love to play in croke park snd would put that ahead of a bit nore of an atmosphere at some random county ground which wont be at capacity either.

Games with attendances in the thousands shouldn't have their locations decided by the whims of a few players.

You're just pulling a percentage out of your arse too - even if in an ideal world players would like to play at Croke Park most would be realistic enough to see there are other elements that need to be considered too.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: DJGaliv on May 02, 2017, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on May 02, 2017, 12:33:24 AM


I disagree.  If you were to ask any player I would say 90% or more would love to play in croke park snd would put that ahead of a bit nore of an atmosphere at some random county ground which wont be at capacity either.

I hear where you are coming from, but it's this madness that stops progress. I'd love if our club championship game was played in Croker, but that's not going to happen.

If you asked players they'd love their day out in Croke park, or they'd love the chance to win a provincial title.... We really have to stop this, and move with the times.

I'd defend gaelic football to the ends, but watching games play in Croke Park with 10,000 people there is just awful. Trying to defend to to others the reasoning behind it, and also the fact that we have four groups of 12,9,6 and 5 teams to get to the last 8 is very hard to do - (I'm not including London and NY as that's just daft).

We've invested hugely across the country in updated stadia, and that's where these games should be played. Suit it to geography and what the stadium can hold. Don't mind this nonsense that players would prefer to play in Croke park.

It's crazy we are bowing down to the whims of lads with pioneer and GAA badges with 30 years of administrating, and lovely three course meals who want to keep Connacht final day as it is, rather than making it fairer for every county like the four divisions we have seen work so well in the leagues
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: galwayman on May 02, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
I do think playing the junior and intermediate AI club finals in Croker is the right thing to do though regardless of the small attendance there.
Lads who wouldn't have anywhere near the talent to make a county team can still potentially get the chance to play in Croker.
I played on a club team that lost out in extra time in a provincial club final a while back and can only imagine the buzz to play there.
Our conquerors on that day made it to Croker.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Rossfan on May 02, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
Agree with you Galwayman.
Would help if admission was cut to €10 and try to generate a bit of a crowd.
Same goes for the Ring, Rackard and Meagher  finals.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2017, 11:08:31 AM
Better team won on the day but still plenty to be positive about. You'd think Sean Andy Kelly would be called up to the senior squad given his performances against Kerry & Dublin and especially given our problems in the full back line.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 03, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2017, 11:08:31 AM
Better team won on the day but still plenty to be positive about. You'd think Sean Andy Kelly would be called up to the senior squad given his performances against Kerry & Dublin and especially given our problems in the full back line.

Some talk he may be off to the states for the Summer. Possible he just made other plans when he wasn't part of the senior panel during the league which did include Daly, Cooke and McDaid.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2017, 01:25:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2017, 06:30:36 PM
The most improved county at u21 over the last 10 years. Dublin improve players in the 18-21 bracket like no other county. For those who think that Dublin have a golden generation think again they aren't going away.

A wonderfully financed regime aren't they.

A supposedly limited bunch they were supposed to be but yet won an u21 title comfortably.
Title: Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 23, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
U21 Player of the Year Aaron Byrne of Dublin. He won the vote on the official GAA Facebook, Twitter and Instagram pages finishing ahead of Brian Howard and Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh.


The top 21 U21's



GOALKEEPERS

    Evan Comerford – Dublin
    Ronán Ó Beoláin - Galway

DEFENDERS

    Eoin Murchan - Dublin
    Cian Murphy - Dublin
    Cillian O'Shea - Dublin
    Sean Andy Ó Ceallaigh - Galway
    Cillian McDaid - Galway
    Brian Ó Beaglaoich - Kerry
    Eoghan Bán Gallagher – Donegal

MIDFIELDERS

    Brian Howard – Dublin
    Andrew Barry – Kerry
    Peter Cooke – Galway
    Darragh Cummins - Sligo

FORWARDS

    Aaron Byrne - Dublin
    Con O'Callaghan - Dublin
    Glenn O'Reilly - Dublin
    Michael Carroll - Donegal
    Michael Langan - Donegal
    Michael Daly - Galway
    Matthew Flaherty - Kerry
    Shane Tierney - Offaly