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Title: Irish Hockey
Post by: From the Bunker on August 02, 2018, 07:05:41 PM
Just watching our Girls on the TV playing India in the World Cup QF.

Anyway, my girl who play Camoige asks me ''What game is that?''

''Hockey'' I tell her!

To which she reply's ''It's looks like it's (Hockey) to Soccer what Hurling is to Gaelic football!''

Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: give her dixie on August 02, 2018, 07:30:37 PM
Nice win there for the girls.....
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: dec on August 02, 2018, 07:50:03 PM
From Coleraine camog to Ireland hockey captain

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2018/07/31/news/from-coleraine-camog-to-ireland-hockey-captain-1394830/

Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 02, 2018, 07:50:42 PM
Ger Canning knowledge on a part with his GAA knowledge.

/Jim.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: SHEEDY on August 02, 2018, 07:51:04 PM
Never knew it was so hard to score a penalty in hockey.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Orior on August 02, 2018, 08:10:46 PM
The girls did good. Great penalty by Meeke
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: laoislad on August 02, 2018, 08:20:37 PM
#hockeyscominghome
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: trailer on August 02, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Where does the bandwagon leave from?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2018, 10:12:35 PM
And England are out.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2018, 10:16:35 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 02, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Where does the bandwagon leave from?
Right lads all the info you need is here.

http://www.hockey.ie/player/?profile=senior-women-squad (http://www.hockey.ie/player/?profile=senior-women-squad)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey)
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2018, 10:21:20 PM
Been watching hockey (women's) for over 10 years, kids play for Ulster Elks and school, the standard at senior level is top class, turning your hand to hockey from a hurling background may seem easy but it's harder that you think do hats off to the Coleraine girl!
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Over the Bar on August 03, 2018, 12:35:10 AM
Sadly I think the Dutch will rip whoever reaches the final to bits. Good luck tho girls.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on August 03, 2018, 12:35:10 AM
Sadly I think the Dutch will rip whoever reaches the final to bits. Good luck tho girls.

The Dutch play professionally and in the Olympics they were favourites but the GB team beat them in a thrilling game.. but from what I've read they are flying at the minute
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: trailer on August 03, 2018, 08:24:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on August 03, 2018, 12:35:10 AM
Sadly I think the Dutch will rip whoever reaches the final to bits. Good luck tho girls.

The Dutch play professionally and in the Olympics they were favourites but the GB team beat them in a thrilling game.. but from what I've read they are flying at the minute

The Dutch are my 2nd favourite team after the Irish.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.

Didn't some NI women play with GB in Olympics?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.

Didn't some NI women play with GB in Olympics?

Not one of winning Olympic team was from N.I. or Wales or Scotland for that matter I think.. But it is team GB and N.I
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: johnnycool on August 03, 2018, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.

Didn't some NI women play with GB in Olympics?

Not one of winning Olympic team was from N.I. or Wales or Scotland for that matter I think.. But it is team GB and N.I

May have been at token panelist somewhere
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
It was four on GB men's olympic team even though Ireland qualified.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 03, 2018, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.

Didn't some NI women play with GB in Olympics?

Not one of winning Olympic team was from N.I. or Wales or Scotland for that matter I think.. But it is team GB and N.I

May have been at token panelist somewhere

Don't think so, I watched all their games that summer and can't remember my kids saying there was ones from here on the panel/team
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 03, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
It was four on GB men's olympic team even though Ireland qualified.
Gleghorne brothers from Antrim played in Rio, one for GB and one for Ireland.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
It was four on GB men's olympic team even though Ireland qualified.

I thought we were talking womens hockey, my mistake.

Could they not get on the panel? or did a Barry mcguigan?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Hockey produces its fair share of stunners!
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: laoislad on August 03, 2018, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Hockey produces its fair share of stunners!
Rule 1
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: dec on August 03, 2018, 03:56:53 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.


The FAI were the spliters
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: gallsman on August 03, 2018, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.

They're only really associated with unionism in the North though, at least hockey and rugby are. The Catholic order schools in the south are the nurseries for both hockey and rugby.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2018, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
There aren't enough Unionists to make a successful international team in any sport. Including soccer.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2018, 05:47:07 PM
I hope the hockeyers win the semi-final.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Orior on August 03, 2018, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on August 02, 2018, 07:51:04 PM
Never knew it was so hard to score a penalty in hockey.

I'd score with any of that team.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?
Do you think it would have been as easy to win round the Linfield and no Sunday games set?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2018, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
There aren't enough Unionists to make a successful international team in any sport. Including soccer.
NI soccer team has qualified for same number of World Cups as ROI team and progressed to Quarter Final in 58 and equivalent of QF in 82.  Not all Unionists obviously, but you get my drift!
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Billy the Glenman would probably be happy enough with an All-Ireland League.  Might not be as keen on an All-Ireland team, however, unless a more welcoming atmosphere for all "Irishmen" was engendered.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Billy the Glenman would probably be happy enough with an All-Ireland League.  Might not be as keen on an All-Ireland team, however, unless a more welcoming atmosphere for all "Irishmen" was engendered.
And which direction has that hostility trqditionally flowed?

Anyway, back on topic, some achievement for the only amateur team there. They had to pay themselves to be there
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Billy the Glenman would probably be happy enough with an All-Ireland League.  Might not be as keen on an All-Ireland team, however, unless a more welcoming atmosphere for all "Irishmen" was engendered.
And which direction has that hostility trqditionally flowed?

Anyway, back on topic, some achievement for the only amateur team there. They had to pay themselves to be there
In football terms, both associations have played to their respective crowds so to speak.  Rugby used to have a reciprocal arrangement re anthems etc when internationals were played on both sides of the border.  Indeed, before the intro of Ireland's Call, arguably rugby matches in Dublin were a bit of cold house for unionists after matches ceased to be staged north of the border.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 10:51:20 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Billy the Glenman would probably be happy enough with an All-Ireland League.  Might not be as keen on an All-Ireland team, however, unless a more welcoming atmosphere for all "Irishmen" was engendered.
And which direction has that hostility trqditionally flowed?

Anyway, back on topic, some achievement for the only amateur team there. They had to pay themselves to be there
In football terms, both associations have played to their respective crowds so to speak.  Rugby used to have a reciprocal arrangement re anthems etc when internationals were played on both sides of the border.  Indeed, before the intro of Ireland's Call, arguably rugby matches in Dublin were a bit of cold house for unionists after matches ceased to be staged north of the border.
And they all lived happily ever after.

Soccer might not be as neat and clean.

Anyway, hockey..m
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 11:07:09 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Billy the Glenman would probably be happy enough with an All-Ireland League.  Might not be as keen on an All-Ireland team, however, unless a more welcoming atmosphere for all "Irishmen" was engendered.
And which direction has that hostility trqditionally flowed?

Anyway, back on topic, some achievement for the only amateur team there. They had to pay themselves to be there
In football terms, both associations have played to their respective crowds so to speak.  Rugby used to have a reciprocal arrangement re anthems etc when internationals were played on both sides of the border.  Indeed, before the intro of Ireland's Call, arguably rugby matches in Dublin were a bit of cold house for unionists after matches ceased to be staged north of the border.

I'm going to disagree on that point, I've many friends who are rugby to the core as I'm GAA and they never missed heading to Dublin for rugby and their escapades during their times playing in the leagues for their respective clubs is not unlike mine playing for the club..
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 11:50:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 11:07:09 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 03, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on August 03, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 02, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
Isn't it an all-Ireland team? Same as Cricket? Soccer seems to be a bit of an outlier in Irish sport with the partition thing.
It's interesting that sports that have traditionally been associated with Unionism such as rugby, hockey and cricket are played on All Ireland basis.
Then the most oirishy of them all, soccer, is partitioned, despite the green flag waving, cheering leprechauns and plastic Paddy-ism.
The other option was an 'Irish' side based in Belfast under the U jack and GSTQ. Do you think the Leinster FA were wrong to split?

Rugby was the same. In fact pretty sure when we won Grand Slam in 1948, God Save the Queen was still played. But the team eventually transitioned out of that. Do people today regret the rugby team didn't split like soccer?

Yeah people much prefer partition, especially if you're from the south
Sigh.

I doubt many southern soccer lads like partiton, but look at what they would be merging with. Gaelic games and rugby dont have those knuckledraggers to contend with.
There is a large crossover between NI football and Ireland Rugby fans - Showing your ignorance / prejudice with knuckledraggers comment.

Not really. You think telling Billy the Glens fan that his national side is gone, they now play in Dublin under a tricolour and AnF and he has to visit the Brandywell and Tallaght to get his bollix kicked in will be an easy sell? Nay bother etc? Come on.
Billy the Glenman would probably be happy enough with an All-Ireland League.  Might not be as keen on an All-Ireland team, however, unless a more welcoming atmosphere for all "Irishmen" was engendered.
And which direction has that hostility trqditionally flowed?

Anyway, back on topic, some achievement for the only amateur team there. They had to pay themselves to be there
In football terms, both associations have played to their respective crowds so to speak.  Rugby used to have a reciprocal arrangement re anthems etc when internationals were played on both sides of the border.  Indeed, before the intro of Ireland's Call, arguably rugby matches in Dublin were a bit of cold house for unionists after matches ceased to be staged north of the border.

I'm going to disagree on that point, I've many friends who are rugby to the core as I'm GAA and they never missed heading to Dublin for rugby and their escapades during their times playing in the leagues for their respective clubs is not unlike mine playing for the club..
Not saying they didn't attend and thoroughly enjoyed the trip and experience. They just, in all likelihood, stood tight during the anthems before Ireland's Call was introduced. No big deal really and why some sort of NI based anthem should be sung either in place of, or in addition to GSTQ, at NI football games at NSAWP.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: armaghniac on August 03, 2018, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 11:50:51 PM
Not saying they didn't attend and thoroughly enjoyed the trip and experience. They just, in all likelihood, stood tight during the anthems before Ireland's Call was introduced. No big deal really and why some sort of NI based anthem should be sung either in place of, or in addition to GSTQ, at NI football games at NSAWP.

They should just abolish the NI team, one of the few representing that sectarian entity, and then they can sing Teddy bears picnic at the Irish games.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 04, 2018, 12:06:30 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 03, 2018, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 03, 2018, 11:50:51 PM
Not saying they didn't attend and thoroughly enjoyed the trip and experience. They just, in all likelihood, stood tight during the anthems before Ireland's Call was introduced. No big deal really and why some sort of NI based anthem should be sung either in place of, or in addition to GSTQ, at NI football games at NSAWP.

They should just abolish the NI team, one of the few representing that sectarian entity, and then they can sing Teddy bears picnic at the Irish games.
A  few tickets still left for the game in September. You'll never know unless you go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ExRQwfDda4
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2018, 02:36:41 PM
Going great guns at the minute!
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 02:39:01 PM
So far so good, even George has refrained from exclaiming a "Danger Here" curse.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:39:24 PM
Pirlo eat your heart out!
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 04, 2018, 03:41:48 PM
Brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 03:42:21 PM
yep, brilliant stuff indeed.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 03:43:08 PM
Excellent achievement
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2018, 03:46:18 PM
Wow! Some achievement for a team that would be from a minority sport!

Bring on the begrudger's
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: laoislad on August 04, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
Revenge for Suwon.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
The final is on tomorrow!!  this is an express speed roller coaster.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 04:01:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
The final is on tomorrow!!  this is an express speed roller coaster.
What time is it on? well done to girls today. Not often any Irish team reaches World cup final.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 04:04:02 PM
ODonovanesque
Great times for Irish sport
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Irelands Call
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Irelands Call

Oh Christ
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)
Hockey itself is a smashing sport. It should be a lot more popular with the general public on the world stage than it is. It's a very skilful game and has meaningful international competition, with a wider spread of competitive countries than rugby or cricket - arguably only association football has a wider spread. It's consistently one of the most interesting sports at the Olympics. In terms of the marketing of the sport, however, it's been a big underachiever.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2018, 12:11:55 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)
Hockey itself is a smashing sport. It should be a lot more popular with the general public on the world stage than it is. It's a very skilful game and has meaningful international competition, with a wider spread of competitive countries than rugby or cricket - arguably only association football has a wider spread. It's consistently one of the most interesting sports at the Olympics. In terms of the marketing of the sport, however, it's been a big underachiever.

Its also quite boring.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: armaghniac on August 05, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Irelands Call

Oh Christ

They used to use Danny Boy!
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Gold on August 05, 2018, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)

What a group

Amazing
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: sid waddell on August 05, 2018, 04:18:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Irelands Call

Oh Christ


They used to use Danny Boy!

Irish international sporting teams have previously used both The Rose Of Tralee and The Last Rose Of Summer as their "national anthem".

Personally I'd love it if they used "Jimmy Jimmy" by The Undertones for the craic.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: seafoid on August 05, 2018, 07:55:12 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 05, 2018, 04:18:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Irelands Call

Oh Christ


They used to use Danny Boy!

Irish international sporting teams have previously used both The Rose Of Tralee and The Last Rose Of Summer as their "national anthem".

Personally I'd love it if they used "Jimmy Jimmy" by The Undertones for the craic.
Chasing cars would be great

https://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Jim Bob on August 05, 2018, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 05, 2018, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)

What a group

Amazing

What time is the final ?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Denn Forever on August 05, 2018, 10:54:00 AM
16.30 london time.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Insane Bolt on August 05, 2018, 11:37:57 AM
Would this be Ireland's first ever World Cup Final in any sport? Some achievement by a team of amateurs who had to fundraise to participate in it👍
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: stephenite on August 05, 2018, 11:39:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2018, 07:55:12 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 05, 2018, 04:18:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 04, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 04, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
Which anthem do they play?
Irelands Call

Oh Christ


They used to use Danny Boy!

Irish international sporting teams have previously used both The Rose Of Tralee and The Last Rose Of Summer as their "national anthem".

Personally I'd love it if they used "Jimmy Jimmy" by The Undertones for the craic.
Chasing cars would be great

https://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w

I'm not one for anthems in general, but that's a shite song.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2018, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on August 05, 2018, 11:37:57 AM
Would this be Ireland's first ever World Cup Final in any sport? Some achievement by a team of amateurs who had to fundraise to participate in it👍

Golf and snooker I believe are the other. Euan McKenna couldn't let the ladies have the limelight and raised that fact.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Hereiam on August 05, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
Play the god dam countries nation anthem that is playingand less of this other shite. You dont see other countries at this bullshit
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 05, 2018, 12:07:37 PM
How many from the North are on the team?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: rrhf on August 05, 2018, 12:45:42 PM
It's coming home
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 12:47:56 PM
From N.I.

Ayeisha McFerran
Position: Goalkeeper
Club: University of Louisville
Age: 22 Caps: 76
Occupation: Student
First-choice net minder. Started all three games so far. From Larne she became the youngest goalkeeper to play for Ireland against Spain in 2014, a day after her 18th birthday. A great shot-stopper, particularly in shootouts. Playing since she was nine-years-old.

Shirley McCay - Most capped Irish sportsperson!
Position: Defence/Midfield
Club: Pegasus
Age: 30 Caps: 270
Occupation: Ulster Hockey Development Officer
The most capped female in Irish sport and in her 11th year as an international player. Part of the team that narrowly missed out on Olympic qualification for 2012 and Rio 2016, the Omagh player will retire after London. Watch for the long pass from defence.

Katie Mullan
Position: Forward/midfield
Club: UCD
Age: 24 Caps: 154
Occupation: Postgraduate Student
She successfully took over the captaincy after Frazer's injuries kept her out of the team. Natural aggression and a strong competitive streak, the former camogie player with Coleraine's Eoghan Rua is now studying for a Masters in biomechanical engineering in UCD.

Zoe Wilson
Position: Defence
Club: Belfast Harlequins
Age: 21 Caps: 76
Occupation: Student
Came from the Syracuse University in New York and played for Harvestehuder in Germany for a year. A captain of the Irish Under-18s, she cemented her current position in 2016. Scored the winner in the Ulster Schools Senior Cup for Ballyclare HS at 14-years-old.

Megan Frazer
Position: Midfield/Defence
Club: Mannheimer, Germany
Age: 27 Caps: 131
Occupation: Hockey Player/Student
The former captain came through a complicated cruciate knee injury to make the squad. A key player for Shaw and one of the most talented players Ireland has produced. Played for Ireland while still as school in Derry and was voted best player at University of Maryland.

Chloe Watkins
Position: Midfield
Club: Bloemendaal, Netherlands
Age: 26 Caps: 197
Occupation: Hockey player/student
If Ireland do the unthinkable and reach the final, she will earn her 200th Irish cap. Brother Gareth and father Gordon were both capped. Monkstown born and now with Dutch side Bloemendaal, where she is coached by twice Olympic champion Teun de Nooijer.

Lizzie Colvin
Position: Midfield
Club: Belfast Harlequins
Age: 28 Caps: 163
Occupation: Lawyer
A corporate lawyer in Belfast, she has come back from 18 months out with a cruciate knee injury in 2013. A tough, robust midfielder, she regained her spot in 2015. Her goal against India last summer earned Ireland their World Cup place. Another capped as a schoolgirl.

Hannah Matthews   
Position: Defence
Club: Loreto
Age: 27 Caps: 111
Occupation: Teacher
A primary school teacher with an international bloodline from father Philip, a former Irish rugby captain. Handles pressure well, which is a huge asset for today's World Cup quarter-final. She earned her 100th cap in June against Canada at Serpentine Avenue.

From RoI

Grace O'Flanagan
Position: Goalkeeper
Club: Railway Union
Age: 29 Caps: 34
Occupation: Doctor
The Royal College of Surgeons graduate was pivotal in South Africa during Ireland's qualification for this World Cup. With McFerran in the sin-bin in the World League semi-finals, O'Flanagan saved a penalty with her first touch against India. Schooled in Loreto Foxrock.

Róisín Upton
Position: Defence/Midfield
Club: Cork Harlequins
Age: 24 Caps: 43
Occupation: Postgraduate Student
A relative newcomer, the Limerick player made her debut in 2016 after a hip injury and stress fracture delayed progress. She then nailed down roles in midfield and defence. Another who went through the US college system, winning two NCAA titles with UConn Huskies.

Elena Tice
Position: Defence
Club: UCD
Age: 20 Caps: 71
Occupation: Student
The dual international made her debut in cricket at 13-years-old and won 40 caps in T20 and ODIs before focusing on hockey. She was precocious there too, debuting for Ireland two weeks before her 18th birthday in 2016. An ever-present on the team since.

Yvonne O'Byrne
Position: Defence
Club: Cork Harlequins
Age: 26 Caps: 116
Occupation: Postgraduate Student
Hugely consistent performer, she has played over 30 consecutive internationals matches since June of last year. The Cork player made her debut in 2016 having played on the Mount Mercy senior schools team as a 14-year-old. Hobbies include tag rugby and soccer.

Gillian Pinder
Position: Midfield
Club: Pembroke
Age: 26 Caps: 140
Occupation: Business and law graduate/coach
A deceptively quick player who has the ability and confidence to breeze past opponents. A veteran of the Rio Olympic campaign, she along with Chloe Watkins were central to St Andrew's College winning the All-Ireland title in 2010. A graduate of UCD and Syracuse.

Ali Meeke
Position: Midfield
Club: Loreto
Age: 27 Caps: 117
Occupation: Coaching/S&C
An intelligent, tidy operator, who came from Dublin's Corinthians HC, she can float between midfield and defence. Made her debut at 22 against India and was part of the group from the Rio qualifying campaign group who have clearly bounced back this year.

Nicci Daly
Position: Midfield
Club: Loreto
Age: 30 Caps: 166
Occupation: Motor racing engineer
Great pace around the pitch and delightful stick work to match. A natural athlete, who never stops running, she previously played for the Dublin football team and is a niece to former F1 racing driver Derek Daly. Overcame a foot injury to make the squad.

Nikki Evans
Position: Forward
Club: UHC Hamburg
Age: 28 Caps: 166
Occupation: Lawyer
The lawyer has taken a year out to play with UHC Hamburg in Germany, where she will return to work and play after London. A great athlete and high work rate makes her an always busy player in the forward line and leading the press. Has 36 goals.

Anna O'Flanagan
Position: Forward
Club: Pinoké, Netherlands
Age: 28 Caps: 171
Occupation: Lawyer
After her winning deflection against India she is on 64 goals and one of Ireland's most prolific scorers with almost a goal every three games. Running out on defensive corners, where she takes the 'body line' on the drag flick has been as brave as it is effective in Ireland's progress.

Deirdre Duke
Position: Forward
Club: UCD
Age: 26 Caps: 106
Occupation: Lawyer
The UCD captain was out with a shoulder injury in 2017. Prior to that she played with the Huskies in Boston before leading UCD to Irish Cup and league success in recent seasons. A quality athlete, she also played with the Irish soccer and Dublin underage teams.

Graham Shaw (Coach)
The Irish coach grew up on hockey, GAA and soccer. He played alongside childhood friend Damien Duff at Lourdes Celtic and Dublin's Collie Moran before concentrating on hockey. In 2010 he famously coached Loreto to the Irish Senior Cup title and won the men's title playing with Glenanne the same day. Has 151 Irish caps.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: armaghniac on August 05, 2018, 05:26:25 PM
Orange women triumphalist.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: stiffler on August 05, 2018, 05:33:06 PM
How many points is it for a goal ?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: bennydorano on August 05, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Shaw out
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 05, 2018, 07:31:47 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on August 05, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
Play the god dam countries nation anthem that is playingand less of this other shite. You dont see other countries at this bullshit
It's not the ROI hockey team.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 05, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I suppose it's worthy of a thread of its own but what would the Flag and national anthem arrangements be in a United Ireland. I assume, as was the case on South Africa there would have to be a new flag and anthem to reflect the new country
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 05, 2018, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Shaw out

;D
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 05, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 05, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I suppose it's worthy of a thread of its own but what would the Flag and national anthem arrangements be in a United Ireland. I assume, as was the case on South Africa there would have to be a new flag and anthem to reflect the new country

Unionists wouldn't recognise either, the same way Nationalists don't recognise the union flag or GSTQ.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 05, 2018, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 05, 2018, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on August 05, 2018, 11:37:57 AM
Would this be Ireland's first ever World Cup Final in any sport? Some achievement by a team of amateurs who had to fundraise to participate in it👍

Golf and snooker I believe are the other. Euan McKenna couldn't let the ladies have the limelight and raised that fact.

https://www.balls.ie/other-sports/remembering-the-ireland-team-who-won-the-amateur-elephant-polo-world-cup-in-2005-329810
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 05, 2018, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 05, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 05, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I suppose it's worthy of a thread of its own but what would the Flag and national anthem arrangements be in a United Ireland. I assume, as was the case on South Africa there would have to be a new flag and anthem to reflect the new country

Unionists wouldn't recognise either, the same way Nationalists don't recognise the union flag or GSTQ.
They would be more likely to recognise a new flag and anthem.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 05, 2018, 10:59:18 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 05, 2018, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 05, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 05, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I suppose it's worthy of a thread of its own but what would the Flag and national anthem arrangements be in a United Ireland. I assume, as was the case on South Africa there would have to be a new flag and anthem to reflect the new country

Unionists wouldn't recognise either, the same way Nationalists don't recognise the union flag or GSTQ.
They would be more likely to recognise a new flag and anthem.

I wouldn't think so.

Would nationalists recognise a new anthem and flag for the Northern State? Nope, because it recognises the partition of Ireland. In the same way for Unionists, a new anthem and flag for a new United Ireland would recognise exactly that, an United Ireland.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: trailer on August 06, 2018, 03:01:14 PM
Hockey thread descends into Flag and Anthem discussion. But it's only Unionists who are insular and backward looking.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)
Hockey itself is a smashing sport. It should be a lot more popular with the general public on the world stage than it is. It's a very skilful game and has meaningful international competition, with a wider spread of competitive countries than rugby or cricket - arguably only association football has a wider spread. It's consistently one of the most interesting sports at the Olympics. In terms of the marketing of the sport, however, it's been a big underachiever.

I always enjoyed it in PE, myself. It was one of the few ball games that I was any good at. But then the teachers made a bit of effort to teach the skills of it instead of assuming we already knew how to play.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: armaghniac on August 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 06, 2018, 03:01:14 PM
Hockey thread descends into Flag and Anthem discussion. But it's only Unionists who are insular and backward looking.

Unionists are insular,  but not to our island but to the other one.
And if the Hockey association have sought to disassociate themselves from the bulk of Irish people why should people not remark on it?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2018, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 06, 2018, 03:01:14 PM
Hockey thread descends into Flag and Anthem discussion. But it's only Unionists who are insular and backward looking.

Unionists are insular,  but not to our island but to the other one.
And if the Hockey association have sought to disassociate themselves from the bulk of Irish people why should people not remark on it?

What?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: trailer on August 06, 2018, 07:43:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 06, 2018, 03:01:14 PM
Hockey thread descends into Flag and Anthem discussion. But it's only Unionists who are insular and backward looking.

Unionists are insular,  but not to our island but to the other one.
And if the Hockey association have sought to disassociate themselves from the bulk of Irish people why should people not remark on it?

This is f**king mental.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 06, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 06, 2018, 03:01:14 PM
Hockey thread descends into Flag and Anthem discussion. But it's only Unionists who are insular and backward looking.

Unionists are insular,  but not to our island but to the other one.
And if the Hockey association have sought to disassociate themselves from the bulk of Irish people why should people not remark on it?
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Ah here. Thats special.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 06, 2018, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 04, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 04, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
The more I read about it the more convinced I am that this is one remarkable group of athletes. They have cross-over skills from many other sports, including Camogie, Gaelic football, cricket, soccer, Indycar motor racing, and even Irish dancing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-irelands-hockey-heroes-859992.html)
Hockey itself is a smashing sport. It should be a lot more popular with the general public on the world stage than it is. It's a very skilful game and has meaningful international competition, with a wider spread of competitive countries than rugby or cricket - arguably only association football has a wider spread. It's consistently one of the most interesting sports at the Olympics. In terms of the marketing of the sport, however, it's been a big underachiever.

I always enjoyed it in PE, myself. It was one of the few ball games that I was any good at. But then the teachers made a bit of effort to teach the skills of it instead of assuming we already knew how to play.

You'd prob been good at camogie too if you tired it  ;)
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
I think that's the important thing. The Soldiers Song is the ROI anthem. If we get a United Ireland we will need a new flag and a new anthem that the entire population can associate with. I for one would be content to sacrifice these for the greater good
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: dec on August 06, 2018, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.

The reason is not because of political/racial/religious issues. It is because in those cases the Ireland team represents 2 different states. The only similar situation I can think of is the West Indies cricket tea which represents an number of different states, and they have an anthem and flag that are not the flag or anthem of any of the individual states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indies_cricket_team#Flag_and_anthem
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 10:29:46 PM
Agreed. Set up a new thread for the national anthem debate
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
I think that's the important thing. The Soldiers Song is the ROI anthem. If we get a United Ireland we will need a new flag and a new anthem that the entire population can associate with. I for one would be content to sacrifice these for the greater good

It's also the anthem of thousands of nationalists in the North.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: OgraAnDun on August 06, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
I think that's the important thing. The Soldiers Song is the ROI anthem. If we get a United Ireland we will need a new flag and a new anthem that the entire population can associate with. I for one would be content to sacrifice these for the greater good

I agree, I'll be sad to see it go but I think it's neccessary to accommodate unionists.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
I think that's the important thing. The Soldiers Song is the ROI anthem. If we get a United Ireland we will need a new flag and a new anthem that the entire population can associate with. I for one would be content to sacrifice these for the greater good

It's also the anthem of thousands of nationalists in the North.
Probably not the anthem for the majority of the players from NI though.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?

I haven't said I'm not pleased for the team. They did well. Fair play to them. Never watched hockey in my life until lately. I mightn't ever watch it again but I was glad to see them do well. And it was great to see the whole country behind them.

The anthem/flag issue was brought up by someone, and well, here we are...
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?

I haven't said I'm not pleased for the team. They did well. Fair play to them. Never watched hockey in my life until lately. I mightn't ever watch it again but I was glad to see them do well. And it was great to see the whole country behind them.

The anthem/flag issue was brought up by someone, and well, here we are...
Can you not see how using Ireland's Call might help to get the whole island behing the team?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: From the Bunker on August 06, 2018, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
I think that's the important thing. The Soldiers Song is the ROI anthem. If we get a United Ireland we will need a new flag and a new anthem that the entire population can associate with. I for one would be content to sacrifice these for the greater good

+100%
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?

I haven't said I'm not pleased for the team. They did well. Fair play to them. Never watched hockey in my life until lately. I mightn't ever watch it again but I was glad to see them do well. And it was great to see the whole country behind them.

The anthem/flag issue was brought up by someone, and well, here we are...
Can you not see how using Ireland's Call might help to get the whole island behing the team?

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it), but that didn't stop me hoping they'd do well. I can't speak for everyone else, but it did seem to unify the team.

As I said before, I understand the reasons for neutrality.

But on a similar note, is the hockey example not encouraging for you (as a northern unionist, I assume), that with similar ventures in different fields, and people being inclusive, and that if a UI ever came about, that there is nothing to fear from it?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?

I haven't said I'm not pleased for the team. They did well. Fair play to them. Never watched hockey in my life until lately. I mightn't ever watch it again but I was glad to see them do well. And it was great to see the whole country behind them.

The anthem/flag issue was brought up by someone, and well, here we are...
Can you not see how using Ireland's Call might help to get the whole island behing the team?

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it), but that didn't stop me hoping they'd do well. I can't speak for everyone else, but it did seem to unify the team.

As I said before, I understand the reasons for neutrality.

But on a similar note, is the hockey example not encouraging for you (as a northern unionist, I assume), that with similar ventures in different fields, and people being inclusive, and that if a UI ever came about, that there is nothing to fear from it?
Firstly, it's not a question of neutrality.  At the risk of repeating myself, it's not the ROI team.
As for your point about inclusivity, is it not a bit ironic making this point when you, and other posters, are complaining about using an anthem that appeals to people from all backgrounds on the island?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 11:17:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?

I haven't said I'm not pleased for the team. They did well. Fair play to them. Never watched hockey in my life until lately. I mightn't ever watch it again but I was glad to see them do well. And it was great to see the whole country behind them.

The anthem/flag issue was brought up by someone, and well, here we are...
Can you not see how using Ireland's Call might help to get the whole island behing the team?

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it), but that didn't stop me hoping they'd do well. I can't speak for everyone else, but it did seem to unify the team.

As I said before, I understand the reasons for neutrality.

But on a similar note, is the hockey example not encouraging for you (as a northern unionist, I assume), that with similar ventures in different fields, and people being inclusive, and that if a UI ever came about, that there is nothing to fear from it?
Firstly, it's not a question of neutrality.  At the risk of repeating myself, it's not the ROI team.
As for your point about inclusivity, is it not a bit ironic making this point when you, and other posters, are complaining about using an anthem that appeals to people from all backgrounds on the island?

OK so neutrality was the wrong word.

It might appeal to others, unify the team etc. But play Danny Boy, I'll Tell Me Ma, anything but Ireland's Call.

PS. As I said, the anthem issue I understand. It was literally Ireland's Call that is the issue for me.

Now, for my question? ;)
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 06, 2018, 11:45:33 PM
Irelands Call is a well meant compromise to a tricky issue.

The problem is that its a turgid song.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it)...

Let me stop you right there. What have you got against Phil Coulter?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it)...

Let me stop you right there. What have you got against Phil Coulter?

He's a pompous p***k. Can't stand the bollix.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 07, 2018, 12:22:06 AM
I saw him live lately and he came off as an ordinary enough fella.
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Jim Bob on August 07, 2018, 01:08:19 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it)...

Let me stop you right there. What have you got against Phil Coulter?

He's a pompous p***k. Can't stand the bollix.

Have you had any personal dealings with him ?
Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: Capt Pat on August 07, 2018, 03:21:53 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2018, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 06, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
I think that's the important thing. The Soldiers Song is the ROI anthem. If we get a United Ireland we will need a new flag and a new anthem that the entire population can associate with. I for one would be content to sacrifice these for the greater good

+100%

There is nothing wrong with the tricolour for a united Ireland. It represents peace between catholics(green) and protestant(orange). Some people simply do not want a United Ireland and no united Ireland flag will be acceptable to them.

Title: Re: Irish Hockey
Post by: michaelg on August 07, 2018, 06:47:35 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 11:17:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:58:19 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 06, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Britains campaign and policies in Ireland has come to this, the stage where the hockey/rugby crowd chose to go neutral. I understand the decision to change the flag/anthem, but it is sad that Irish sport and Ireland as a country has to hide it's national flag and anthem like they are some sort of embarrassment.

Must be one of the few countries in the world that does so, yet it's not the only country with political/racial/religious issues.
It is not the ROI hockey team.  Nor is it the  ROI rugby team.

True, but the Irish anthem and flag pre-dates partition.
This is not that complicated.  Why can't you just be happy for the  success the team has enjoyed?

I haven't said I'm not pleased for the team. They did well. Fair play to them. Never watched hockey in my life until lately. I mightn't ever watch it again but I was glad to see them do well. And it was great to see the whole country behind them.

The anthem/flag issue was brought up by someone, and well, here we are...
Can you not see how using Ireland's Call might help to get the whole island behing the team?

Well personally I can't abide Ireland's Call (or the bollix who wrote it), but that didn't stop me hoping they'd do well. I can't speak for everyone else, but it did seem to unify the team.

As I said before, I understand the reasons for neutrality.

But on a similar note, is the hockey example not encouraging for you (as a northern unionist, I assume), that with similar ventures in different fields, and people being inclusive, and that if a UI ever came about, that there is nothing to fear from it?
Firstly, it's not a question of neutrality.  At the risk of repeating myself, it's not the ROI team.
As for your point about inclusivity, is it not a bit ironic making this point when you, and other posters, are complaining about using an anthem that appeals to people from all backgrounds on the island?

OK so neutrality was the wrong word.

It might appeal to others, unify the team etc. But play Danny Boy, I'll Tell Me Ma, anything but Ireland's Call.

PS. As I said, the anthem issue I understand. It was literally Ireland's Call that is the issue for me.

Now, for my question? ;)
Nothing to fear perhaps, but still doesn't mean that I want a UI.  The same argument could be turned on its head for Nationalists remaining in the UK in NI.