Just caught up with the late late show there , and the discussion on energy prices and all that
It's something I meant to look into before but never got around to.
So, is it simple enough to switch electricity providers? Seems daft to be paying more than I should be , especially at this moment in time..
Also, if I switch providers and get X discount for say 12 months, can I keep switching every 12 months to keep getting the lower/discount rate?
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 03, 2022, 12:25:37 PM
Also, if I switch providers and get X discount for say 12 months, can I keep switching every 12 months to keep getting the lower/discount rate?
It isn't hard, maybe you have to submit a meter reading. Yes, at the end of the period change or get your provider to match the best deal.
Quote from: armaghniac on September 03, 2022, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 03, 2022, 12:25:37 PM
Also, if I switch providers and get X discount for say 12 months, can I keep switching every 12 months to keep getting the lower/discount rate?
It isn't hard, maybe you have to submit a meter reading. Yes, at the end of the period change or get your provider to match the best deal.
Thanks . Must get onto it
I've moved every year for as long as I can remember. If youre in NI get your meter number (MRPN) & a meter reading and get onto the powertoswitch website. They do everything for you, moved within 2 weeks. Best deals are for Direct Debit customers.
Lads i wouldn't jump the gun and switch right now, there is more price increases in the pipeline! even for those that have just announced one already. Give it until near the end of the month especially gas users as there is a few massive increases incoming
Can you not change every time there's a price increase as the contract you have signed up to has been broken?
im after paying £15 f-ing quid for a 20kg bag of coal - whats the world coming to
Quote from: Aughafad on September 03, 2022, 03:52:33 PM
Lads i wouldn't jump the gun and switch right now, there is more price increases in the pipeline! even for those that have just announced one already. Give it until near the end of the month especially gas users as there is a few massive increases incoming
It doesn't matter when you jump, it's a % discount (for Electric in NI). I've moved from SSE to Budget. My new tariff is 28.75% off the standard tariff for 12 months, that standard tariff will increase many more times no doubt.
Quote from: Square Ball on September 03, 2022, 04:16:54 PM
Can you not change every time there's a price increase as the contract you have signed up to has been broken?
Yes, in NI anyway.
That couldn't be right about the coal, Where's that at General? I was getting 3 20kg bags of double for £21 and Coal £22 before Christmas, filled the bunker plus another 10 bags stacked. Was gonna get more, but a bag coal more than £10 for 20kg ridiculous
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 03, 2022, 08:40:45 PM
That couldn't be right about the coal, Where's that at General? I was getting 3 20kg bags of double for £21 and Coal £22 before Christmas, filled the bunker plus another 10 bags stacked. Was gonna get more, but a bag coal more than £10 for 20kg ridiculous
i promise you its right - i nearly fainted. 5ways in newry. i checked another place local and its the same
i would have went and got 4 bags of coal and a few bags of sticks for 30 quid (ish) the last time i lit the fire - im sure that was maybe jan/feb time
Wonder what the coal provider excuse is, saying all the coal mostly columbian over here.
if there is blackouts will the irish take to the streets and demand these politicians go
Over the last 9 months, i have cut about a trailer of timber. I saved 8 hoppers (told its about 2.5 trailers) of turf. I bought 2 extra cylinders of gas in May. I have a Stanley range and the majority of our cooking is done on that, as well as the Kettle boiled on it. The bike is taken for short journeys. Journeys in the Car are done slower i.e. 80Km and hour instead of 100km - Greater fuel efficiency. I have stocked up on Dog food, Cat food etc. Also on Tinned food. Detergents, toiletries, etc. There is a mad crash coming. You can't pull against so many people in the supply chain and not expect a short-fall. You have been warned.
Stocked up on dog food and cat food ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Price cat food doubled what it was 3yrs ago
if there is blackouts will they be a planned thing like 1am-5am on a wednesday morning if their is blackouts at 8pm on friday night will people lose the plot
Quote from: Eire90 on September 04, 2022, 01:12:43 AM
if there is blackouts will they be a planned thing like 1am-5am on a wednesday morning if their is blackouts at 8pm on friday night will people lose the plot
No they won't, they'll go to bed early and copulate.
Quote from: Square Ball on September 03, 2022, 04:16:54 PM
Can you not change every time there's a price increase as the contract you have signed up to has been broken?
You can only change if you are not in a fixed contract and unfortunately they are a cap limit on the number of switches each energy provider can accommodate on a monthly basis so it may take several weeks to switch providers if there is a rush
Quote from: Aughafad on September 04, 2022, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on September 03, 2022, 04:16:54 PM
Can you not change every time there's a price increase as the contract you have signed up to has been broken?
You can only change if you are not in a fixed contract and unfortunately they are a cap limit on the number of switches each energy provider can accommodate on a monthly basis so it may take several weeks to switch providers if there is a rush
In ROI?
If a provider breaks a contract by raising their tariff in NI you're entitled to move without penalty, end of story.
Quote from: Eire90 on September 04, 2022, 01:12:43 AM
if there is blackouts will they be a planned thing like 1am-5am on a wednesday morning if their is blackouts at 8pm on friday night will people lose the plot
If there are blackouts and no street lighting, alarms and cctv etc then crime will absolutely skyrocket.
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2022, 07:20:45 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on September 04, 2022, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on September 03, 2022, 04:16:54 PM
Can you not change every time there's a price increase as the contract you have signed up to has been broken?
You can only change if you are not in a fixed contract and unfortunately they are a cap limit on the number of switches each energy provider can accommodate on a monthly basis so it may take several weeks to switch providers if there is a rush
In ROI?
If a provider breaks a contract by raising their tariff in NI you're entitled to move without penalty, end of story.
i ddont know down here i had just changed too SSE for a 25% discount that was then risen was raised by 42%. but i suppose the main rates and electric irelND were raised as well but id nearly change again out of Spite
So let's say electric rate is 30p a unit, and you change provider and get it for 20p.
If that new provider then raises it by 5p a unit, what do you now pay? The originally agreed 20p, or the original 20p + the 5p?
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 05, 2022, 05:22:58 PM
So let's say electric rate is 30p a unit, and you change provider and get it for 20p.
If that new provider then raises it by 5p a unit, what do you now pay? The originally agreed 20p, or the original 20p + the 5p?
You're always on the Standard Tariff minus your discount rate, the Standard rate will rise all winter, we're all fucked but might as well take the discount if available.
Quote from: bennydorano on September 05, 2022, 05:35:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 05, 2022, 05:22:58 PM
So let's say electric rate is 30p a unit, and you change provider and get it for 20p.
If that new provider then raises it by 5p a unit, what do you now pay? The originally agreed 20p, or the original 20p + the 5p?
You're always on the Standard Tariff minus your discount rate, the Standard rate will rise all winter, we're all fucked but might as well take the discount if available.
You also need to observe the fixed charge. in the South you can get a 40% discount, but with a higher fixed charge. This would still be a good deal for a houehold that used a lot but it didn't add up for me.
Get a magnet
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 05, 2022, 10:26:36 PM
Get a magnet
I'd say the smart meter would tell your magnet to f**k away off.
Be very few led reindeer and 6ft snowmen on the go this Christmas. Back to the Christmas candles!!
Quote from: armaghniac on September 05, 2022, 11:03:10 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 05, 2022, 10:26:36 PM
Get a magnet
I'd say the smart meter would tell your magnet to f**k away off.
Friend mentioned this and the meter sent an response saying the meter is being tampered with and turned off his electric.. be careful lol
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2022, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 05, 2022, 11:03:10 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 05, 2022, 10:26:36 PM
Get a magnet
I'd say the smart meter would tell your magnet to f**k away off.
Friend mentioned this and the meter sent an response saying the meter is being tampered with and turned off his electric.. be careful lol
You have to use a smart magnet.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 04, 2022, 01:02:44 AM
Price cat food doubled what it was 3yrs ago
Can I confirm that you chaps own cats?
I see brent crude oil has dropped below $90 for the first time since January. . . why are oil and diesel prices still so f**king high??
QuoteI see brent crude oil has dropped below $90 for the first time since January. . . why are oil and diesel prices still so f**king high??
Your car doesn't run on crude oil. It's the lack of refineries that's the issue. Russian refineries are sanctioned. It could be worse though as the yanks upped their game a few years back and increased their refining capacity.
Quote from: screenexile on September 07, 2022, 02:39:44 PM
I see brent crude oil has dropped below $90 for the first time since January. . . why are oil and diesel prices still so f**king high??
The price of the pound against the dollar is the current excuse. Oil is traded in dollars and the Conservatives have done their part to devalue the pound as much as possible.
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 07, 2022, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 07, 2022, 02:39:44 PM
I see brent crude oil has dropped below $90 for the first time since January. . . why are oil and diesel prices still so f**king high??
The price of the pound against the dollar is the current excuse. Oil is traded in dollars and the Conservatives have done their part to devalue the pound as much as possible.
Fair enough I had forgotten about that shitshow that's hitting us as well!
How much for 1000l today in the North ?
Is there anywhere online ye can keep tabs on latest prices ?
Quote from: Jim Bob on September 07, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
How much for 1000l today in the North ?
Is there anywhere online ye can keep tabs on latest prices ?
https://www.cheapestoil.co.uk/Heating-Oil-NI
Give you a rough idea.
BBC News - Cost of living: Energy price cap to apply to NI households
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62832267
UK Government sets price cap on Electric bills in GB to £2,500 pa from October, fixed for 2 years. Assuming it'll reach NI in the usual bastardised way. I assume that means bills going to be £208 odd max per month - they currently aren't at that level but are surely heading that way (for average use).
Quote from: bennydorano on September 08, 2022, 12:21:00 PM
BBC News - Cost of living: Energy price cap to apply to NI households
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62832267
UK Government sets price cap on Electric bills in GB to £2,500 pa from October, fixed for 2 years. Assuming it'll reach NI in the usual bastardised way. I assume that means bills going to be £208 odd max per month - they currently aren't at that level but are surely heading that way (for average use).
It's a £2500 cap for both gas and electric.
Completely different energy market, there's no developed plan for how this will actually apply to NI.
Yeah I know. Read the article. We'll get an NI version with similar finanicial support. Mentions home heating oil. They've changed the headline to - NI to Get same energy bills support as GB.
Quote from: bennydorano on September 08, 2022, 12:59:05 PM
Yeah I know. Read the article. We'll get an NI version with similar finanicial support. Mentions home heating oil. They've changed the headline to - NI to Get same energy bills support as GB.
Should it be means tested? I think it should be more targeted to the ones that are really struggling
Sure you can refuse to accept the help MR2
Quote from: bennydorano on September 08, 2022, 01:20:15 PM
Sure you can refuse to accept the help MR2
I can surely (unless its being paid directly to the energy provider) but there are people out there that actually don't need it over people that really do need it..
Quote from: bennydorano on September 08, 2022, 12:59:05 PM
Yeah I know. Read the article. We'll get an NI version with similar finanicial support. Mentions home heating oil. They've changed the headline to - NI to Get same energy bills support as GB.
jabers, if they subsidise home heating oil then there won't be enough tankers in Cullyhanna.
so, tell me this. if its capped at £2500 per year can I run the gas and electric all day and night and it wont go over £2500? how is it capped?
Quote from: Square Ball on September 09, 2022, 09:07:27 AM
so, tell me this. if its capped at £2500 per year can I run the gas and electric all day and night and it wont go over £2500? how is it capped?
Don't think they've thought that far ahead but I've seen that scenario discussed. Anyone growing herb in their attics can breathe a sigh of relief.
Quote from: Square Ball on September 09, 2022, 09:07:27 AM
so, tell me this. if its capped at £2500 per year can I run the gas and electric all day and night and it wont go over £2500? how is it capped?
There is an average house defined and the £2500 would meet the usage of that average house. If you are a waster then you are on your own, I am afraid.
Quote from: armaghniac on September 09, 2022, 09:26:12 AM
Quote from: Square Ball on September 09, 2022, 09:07:27 AM
so, tell me this. if its capped at £2500 per year can I run the gas and electric all day and night and it wont go over £2500? how is it capped?
There is an average house defined and the £2500 would meet the usage of that average house. If you are a waster then you are on your own, I am afraid.
wont go anywhere near it I hope. so have the Tories bought the next election with this?
At the minute my Electric bill is £240 per quarter. If it doubles say, I'll still be under the cap. Are we going to get support for Oil is that the idea?
Was chatting to a hotelier the other day, he has 5 places, the gas bill will kill the business alone... Its worse than them being closed during the pandemic, bills can't keep it open and now people can't afford to go out..
Love the idea of owning my own business but who in their right mind would start up a business now?
Just got an email from the head of our office in Belfast, Power NI have increased the monthly bill x 5 times the cost....
Fuckin hell and we're probably not that energy intensive but all servers are going to have to be turned off when not in use now...
That will put some businesses under.
Its a cap on the price per unit not on your bill. That £2,500 is the average cost for a household not the maximum you can pay on your bill. A lot of people are going to get caught out on this thinking their bill will 'only' be £200 a month.
Quote from: trailer on September 09, 2022, 09:53:34 AM
At the minute my Electric bill is £240 per quarter. If it doubles say, I'll still be under the cap. Are we going to get support for Oil is that the idea?
my last quarterly bill in July was £215 and if it wasn't for games consoles going flat out it would be cheaper again, as we hardly ever use the dishwasher or tumbledryer.