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#16
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 14, 2015, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 13, 2015, 12:51:30 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
I never got involved in the saga but you must realise that performing well in a match is a long way off making up for what he is accused of??

accused of ....you hit nail on the head.Accused of, he has never been proven guilty but thats a fact that has escaped you all
#17
lamh dhearg won 1992
#18
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 25, 2015, 12:41:56 AM
Quote from: cushendall on June 25, 2015, 12:29:27 AM
Red dog, I don't know what illusion u are under friend or no friend, his mother was beside the St. John's subs who laughed when it was said, same mother went to him at the end off the match, the St. John's captain came to the changing room after the match, a St. John's player walked off with the cushendall players rather than stay to celebrate his teams win as he was ashamed, one off our younger players got head butted after the final whistle, it seems that u have no concern for the comment made and how it would have affected the said player, how would you feel if something like this was said to you? St. John's people have said it was said, it is a downright disgrace and u sticking up for it, when a number off people heard it is silly
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you don't name someone and conduct a campaign against him without proof. frankly because a mum said it doesn't make a difference. You need to prove he did it,michael doesn't need to prove he didn't do it. frankly you have become nothing better than a mob. The lad is a good person does no harm to anyone and doesn't deserve a campaign like this
#19
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 25, 2015, 12:38:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Taking what you are saying reddog and believing this to be a truth..... I would be up in arms with the accuser and putting the pressure on him and his club to apologize for maliciously concocting such deviously slanderous accusations.

I assume you would agree?

How do you know what Michael has asked for?? you all seem to think you know whats happening
Michael has gave his views to the people that matter. there is no evidence of it happening. He is actually annoyed that I am replying to some of these people on here as he has no time for them and its probably right that I am only giving them more chance to rant and rave but as a mate I cant stand by. He has denied doing it..theres nothing to prove he did and he doesn't deserve to be tried and his name ruined on a public forum. apologies if I misinterpreted what you said

wha??? I was talking to you and no one else. And for the record I know feck all apart from what the rumor mill has told me about what was allegedly said
#20
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 25, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Taking what you are saying reddog and believing this to be a truth..... I would be up in arms with the accuser and putting the pressure on him and his club to apologize for maliciously concocting such deviously slanderous accusations.

I assume you would agree?

How do you know what Michael has asked for?? you all seem to think you know whats happening
#21
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 25, 2015, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 11:09:33 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 24, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
I have enjoyed the many and varied opinions shared on this board over the years, agreeing with some and disagreeing with others and everyone is entitled to an opinion (they're like arseh*les - everyone got one) but in the aftermath of a well contested U21 final I thought a line had been crossed when a player was named and shamed as a guilty party and a small number of individuals were happy to act as judge jury and executioner on one mans uncorroborated second hand account.

It speaks volumes that 'auld hand' is happy to name names on the St John's team but is very shy about putting the name of the Dall mentor ( 30ish year old water boy !) who threw himself to the ground clutching his face without being touched in a bad parity of what's usually seen on MOTD as the worst excesses of cheating foreign soccer players, in a failed attempt to have a St. John's man sent off. In my opinion this only served to galvanise the Johnnies who clawed back a 6 point deficit to 1 in the remainder of the half.

I'm sure the person in question on reflection probably regrets his action in the heat of the moment and on reflection I wouldn't like his name more widely known as further uneducated opinion may be unjustly formed.

For the integrity of this opinion board, unless you seen or heard it yourself and especially if it's a serious allegation that will see a person, club or competition  brought into disrepute leave names out of it. Contributors after-all have their anonymity. If you saw it or heard it first hand by all means let us all know what you seen or heard.

In this particular case I actually think the CCC and due process is the best way to deal with.

I hope my next post might be about hurling  :)
You do realise that there are witnesses. Some of the Cushendall supporters were aware of the comment at half time.
The Cushendall Waterboy has been spoken too. That is fact. His actions were very poor but as stated..him trying to getting a player is hardly comparable to a player mocking the death of someone's father.
He's only made it worse for himself. He should have apologised & everyone could have moved on.
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Once more we see people from one side deciding that as they say hes done it that hes guilty. He has nothing to apologise for and the same man would apologise if he done it as that's the type of him. But for cushendall to drag a man's reputation through the gutter without any proof would in normal life libellous. There have been meetings there has been nothing in the reports to incriminate him so stop trying to ruin someones life. Ps how has he 'only made it worse for himself' Are you insuating or threatening that cushendall will try and seek 'retribution'. It wont be happening
#22
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 24, 2015, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 24, 2015, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES
Targetted Bradley by lining out E.Campbell on him?
It's cos Bradley is the most naturally talented hurler in the province. Plus Eoghan has been playing Half back for the senior team recently.

I actually laughed at that part.

If he did it then he needs to grow a set and apologize and stop acting like a child. If he didn't then the other fella needs to grow a set as well.

simple as.

Quote from: reddogIts for people with chips on their shoulder who aren't good enough to do anything on the pitch

this made me laugh even more. Your starting to form opinions of people on here whom i know have done waaaaaaay more than you ever will have both on and off a pitch.
its nice to know you know me lad
#23
Antrim / Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 24, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Fair enough Michael.
City Michael wouldn't be seen dead on this. grow up man up and stop attacking people and mixing. Were it not for this libellous muck I wouldn't be on this either. Its for people with chips on their shoulder who aren't good enough to do anything on the pitch
#24
Antrim / Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 24, 2015, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
How is it not? You asked how this came about. By saying clearly he said would look pretty amateurish if trying to prove something. The county haven't found any proof . Im not getting into this with you who is anonymously attacking a lad without putting their name to it through fear.
so are you telling me because a cushendall man says it its true. They wouldn't be held in the highest of esteem so their word shouldn't carry more weight. In life it is up to an accuser to prove guilt, not for the accused to prove innocence. You have not proven anything and Michaels word and name carries a lot of weightup here so if he says he didn't do it that's enough for us
#25
Antrim / Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 24, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
How is it not? You asked how this came about. By saying clearly he said would look pretty amateurish if trying to prove something. The county haven't found any proof . Im not getting into this with you who is anonymously attacking a lad without putting their name to it through fear.
#26
Antrim / Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES
#27
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 24, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 23, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
I thought the idea of this thread was to discuss the issues affecting Antrim hurling, and in my mind this is one of the biggest talking points in recent times, and one I feel compelled to comment on. Is their a better time that would be more suitable to Join?
The facts still remain the player hasn't been in touch with player or club, not good enough.
As for "get even not cross" what fall from grace are you on about?
I would question how you are aware of what has and hasn't went on and what business is it of yours? Michael has denied saying this and also claimed that he was subjected to significant abuse and targeted from the outset. It is not his job to claim or prove his innocence. He has behaved impeccably as he always does. He is quiet , keeps his counsel and is totally dedicated to his sport. There is accusations of racial abuse being directed at st johns players but they are not on here complaining.  Right now he is perhaps the most natural hurler in the province and you through a witchhunt of behind the keyboard warriors are in danger of driving him away. As a friend Michael knows I or his other friends wouldn't defend him if he did it but I am not going to let you or others abuse him for no reason. I am free to discuss this with you at any stage you wish.
#28
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 22, 2015, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: doodaa on June 22, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 22, 2015, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
Id say he's more of an ejit than anything else.  Away and catch yourself on. He's a sc**bag in my book for saying what he said.  No place for it in any sport. And if you wanna try and take away from it or stand up for what WAS said.  Your not far behind.
Hold on. I am not defending what was said. I am
Defending the person as you have wrongly judged him without knowing him. I dare say we have all had a club mate who has done something wrong but you know it's out of character . If mick has said this it's wrong but it is out of character. Does his mum and dad need to see this. He's a good lad who hurling means everything . Also there is innocent until proven guilty. I am guessing there has been a campaign of retaliation and abuse last night on social media as his a account has been deleted. We all know how dangerous this can be. It makes people no better . I'm not a naomh eoin man

Perhaps the accused should have thought about the bit in bold before saying what he has reportedly said?
And also spared a thought for the impact it would have on the fella he said it to.
Missing the point . Of course people are thinking of the guy who had to endure it but what happens next is imp. I dare say Facebook was deleted because of abuse. Cyber bullying is dangerous and can have dreadful consequences
#29
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 22, 2015, 10:18:40 AM
You miss the point lads, I am not saying he didn't do it , what I am saying is that I know the person. He is a good fella , dedicated to his sport, is there for friends. It's out of character and if an apology is to be made it's to the person not public for you to judge. Leave him alone
#30
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
June 22, 2015, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
Id say he's more of an ejit than anything else.  Away and catch yourself on. He's a sc**bag in my book for saying what he said.  No place for it in any sport. And if you wanna try and take away from it or stand up for what WAS said.  Your not far behind.
Hold on. I am not defending what was said. I am
Defending the person as you have wrongly judged him without knowing him. I dare say we have all had a club mate who has done something wrong but you know it's out of character . If mick has said this it's wrong but it is out of character. Does his mum and dad need to see this. He's a good lad who hurling means everything . Also there is innocent until proven guilty. I am guessing there has been a campaign of retaliation and abuse last night on social media as his a account has been deleted. We all know how dangerous this can be. It makes people no better . I'm not a naomh eoin man