McCarthy admits he does not have backing of Cork hurlers

[INDIANA]

don't agree reillers .

despite being the most professionally prepared team in the country, they still aren't happy. its always the nuclear option, everyone supported them in 2002, this time we're bored. they've been given everything to prepare properly at this stage. The bottom line is this for the Cork people out there, this team as it stands is over. when you cut through all the bullshit , thats the bottom line, they can't match kilkenny anymore and some of the players can't understand why, so lets blame the manager to cover up for our basic inadequacies on the pitch.
Who gives these Cork players Reillers the right to

a) demand the priviledge of the Cork jersey
b) always assume they are good enough to play at county level.

At that stage why don't some of the players retire and coach the team themselves. Because at this stage , short of getting alex ferguson in to do the job, thes guys will never be happy. Its not Mc Carthy's fault kilkenny are better than them. Because thats where this is being driven from. I though Mc Carthy literally extracted as much as anyone could from them last year, Cork are not the force they were. Some of the players need to recognise that. Self delusion is a wonderful thing in life.

[theskull1]

Oh Reillers...you make it sound so innocent

28 players meet and vote against the decision of the board to appoint a manager. Extrapolate that across every democratic decision made in the country and you might realize that that is why rules exist and that is why the players have absolutely no right to feel that they should have a say over who the county board (including 2 player representative) elect for that position. Who the f**k do they think they are?

Yes apart that they have done nothing   

[Reillers]

don't agree reillers .

despite being the most professionally prepared team in the country, they still aren't happy. its always the nuclear option, everyone supported them in 2002, this time we're bored. they've been given everything to prepare properly at this stage. The bottom line is this for the Cork people out there, this team as it stands is over. when you cut through all the bullshit , thats the bottom line, they can't match kilkenny anymore and some of the players can't understand why, so lets blame the manager to cover up for our basic inadequacies on the pitch.
Who gives these Cork players Reillers the right to

a) demand the priviledge of the Cork jersey
b) always assume they are good enough to play at county level.

At that stage why don't some of the players retire and coach the team themselves. Because at this stage , short of getting alex ferguson in to do the job, thes guys will never be happy. Its not Mc Carthy's fault kilkenny are better than them. Because thats where this is being driven from. I though Mc Carthy literally extracted as much as anyone could from them last year, Cork are not the force they were. Some of the players need to recognise that. Self delusion is a wonderful thing in life.

Know one will be happy when that board is still there, whether it's those 28 players or another 28. They are manipulative, and will do anything to have power.
The players don't demand the priviege to the Cork jersey, they work for it, Donal Og makes sure, he actually asks for there to be 2 keepers training with him and going to matches with him. It's usually only one, but the two push him, he wants them there because they push him, and he's well aware that they could be picked ahead of him, but the better player should play and if, when one of the keepers, be it Nash or Coleman gets picked ahead he'll have earned it.
They want the younger players in, they wanted Naugton to come in, the fringe players fight them very hard in training and they will say it if they see a player, like Naughton, Horgan..etc.
Cork aren't the force they were but they are still a better team then most.
It's not McCarthy's fault that KK are better, but he's made some very naive and poor decisions over his time in charge, tactical, selection wise, training wise, there have been some really poor calls. They could have and should have done better with him but he made some shockingly naive calls.
Cork could have done better last season, they should have done better and some of that, not all was down to McCarthy. Now the players who ye are villionising here, know when they see a good manager. They don't think Gerald is brining them in the right direction..which he's not really.

But yet again out of thin air, out of players saying they don't want him as manager again, you've some how gotten them demanding the privilege of the Cork jersey and presmuning they are good enough for county level. Presuming, they are good enough for county level. Again, just venting anger and hate at Cork, when all they've done is expressed how they feel.

The players have done nothing but take a vote on who agrees with the CCB's decision, yet people are using this as an excuse to bitch and whine about Cork hurling.

Lets not kid ourselves this is just one big bitching session while we're waiting for something to happen, if anything does happen.

[Reillers]

Oh Reillers...you make it sound so innocent

28 players meet and vote against the decision of the board to appoint a manager. Extrapolate that across every democratic decision made in the country and you might realize that that is why rules exist and that is why the players have absolutely no right to feel that they should have a say over who the county board (including 2 player representative) elect for that position. Who the f**k do they think they are?

Yes apart that they have done nothing   

Yes, because it's so much more sinsister then that. They took a democratic vote, without expressing what they'd do, if they'd do anything, about it. They took a vote to see where everyone was at, and we're on here acting like it's WW3.
I'd worry for GAA if every county board was like Cork's because it would spell the end for GAA. Surely you know enough about the game to know how much of a screw up the board is in Cork, how much of a dictatorship it is.
The players have no right to have a say in who coaches them offically, but off the record, which it was, they have a right to see what everyone thinks especially considerng that they give so much to the game, they sacrifiice so much, I think they are allowed to vote and see where everyone's oppinion is at.

A democratic vote from the players is better then a dictatorship that Frank Murphy's running. He makes the decision and everyone hops on board.
They took a vote, which as a panel, they were well within their rights..ya, how dare they do that, have an opinion, take a democratic vote, who do they think they are.

That's all they've done, they haven't said they'd take a certain action, they haven't come out in public and said anything..we've heard most of this from Gerald Mac. Yet ye are acting like they sinned to the skies, heaven and earth. They've nothing except voice their oppinions within themselves.

[Reillers]

Am I the only one who is fed up with this sh*te from Cork? I don't care any more who is right and who is wrong. It's just boring.

No. They are boring b**tards. Hopefully they just f**k off next year. Don't enter the NL or Championship. Just go and sort yourselves out without interfering with other teams, again.

Point proven exactly here, it's just people, coming on here, who have nothing better to do then come on and bitch about Cork hurling. People with little facts, information or lives really, just out for an old bitch. Old and boring. Like I said,

[Minder]

How could they have done better Reillers? Was gerald mac doing the stevie wonder impression that the cork forwards were doing against tipp? Would they have beaten Kilkenny with their chosen manager?i believe they want Ger Cunningham,i feel i will be able to amend this thread title in 12 months time,taking out Mc Carthys name and putting in Cunninghams.

[pintsofguinness]

Holding the National League up because you are a bunch of whinging b**tards is, for one year, less than acceptable. Now, it looks like it's going to happen the second year.......Cork, just f**k off, nobody gives a ballix.

Exactly, can't believe we're going through this again with these pricks.

[orangeman]

Reillers - no disrepect to you or the Cork players but this is just getting beyond a joke. It's high time the Cork hurlers ( and I'm not sure all of them are involved in this or not ) just simply said, let's play away and try and break the hold that KK have on hurling.

The whole country are already fed up reading, listening and watching about Cork hurlers.


Let them go out and do their talking on the pitch. Not in committee rooms, where respect for Cork players in the eyes of the general public is falling rapidly, year after year, strike after threatened strike.

[Reillers]

Holding the National League up because you are a bunch of whinging b**tards is, for one year, less than acceptable. Now, it looks like it's going to happen the second year.......Cork, just f**k off, nobody gives a ballix.

No respect. It was one game, and no one cares about the league. It was one game. Yet again though,full blown dramatics. All you need now is a tiny little violin playing the worlds sadest little song just for you.
And if nobody cares then why are you on here crying about it. Surely you've something better to do..apparently not. 

[Reillers]

Holding the National League up because you are a bunch of whinging b**tards is, for one year, less than acceptable. Now, it looks like it's going to happen the second year.......Cork, just f**k off, nobody gives a ballix.

Exactly, can't believe we're going through this again with these pricks.

"Bunch of pricks"..Ye've got some nerve like. These players have done more for the game then either of ye can imagine. They brought the game back when interests were dying, and they played a very entertaining style of hurling. They took a stand when no one else would. Kilkenny may be the best team in teh country but Cork have done more then them. While Kilkenny had a man and a dog at the games, Cork had fans sitting on the grass. All the Munster games that brought people back, they brought in the crowds when hurling needed it most. They've been involved with games that have been described as games of the decade, games of the season..etc. THey have bee the team to beat. They took a stand when things weren't right, they didn't just sit back. They have gotten criticized and ridiculed since. But they changed things for the better that day.
Last season, the board pushed them too far yet again. But incase we all forget, it was the footballers who went on strike, who had the problem, the Cork players just backed them, paying them back for 02. But that's easily forgotten as well isn't it. People too busy trying to vilonise them.
These "shower of pricks" have dome more in their 10 years at playing with Cork then ye will in yere lifetimes. Grew a spine and learn some a respect.

[orangeman]

Reillers - no disrepect to you or the Cork players but this is just getting beyond a joke. It's high time the Cork hurlers ( and I'm not sure all of them are involved in this or not ) just simply said, let's play away and try and break the hold that KK have on hurling.

The whole country are already fed up reading, listening and watching about Cork hurlers.


Let them go out and do their talking on the pitch. Not in committee rooms, where respect for Cork players in the eyes of the general public is falling rapidly, year after year, strike after threatened strike.

[Reillers]

Reillers - no disrepect to you or the Cork players but this is just getting beyond a joke. It's high time the Cork hurlers ( and I'm not sure all of them are involved in this or not ) just simply said, let's play away and try and break the hold that KK have on hurling.

The whole country are already fed up reading, listening and watching about Cork hurlers.


Let them go out and do their talking on the pitch. Not in committee rooms, where respect for Cork players in the eyes of the general public is falling rapidly, year after year, strike after threatened strike.

They do their talking on the pitch, and last time I've checked they haven't done anything yet about this and they mightn't do anything at all. But there are people here, thinking the worst, whining all the time and bitching, this isn't a discuss what'll happen with Gerald Mac and hurlers thread, it's a bitch and vent you're anger about Cork thread.

There's been TWO strikes. One way back in 02 which was completley back and justified and noble. One last season where they backed the footballers, who backed them in 02. Dramatics again.

If everyones sick of us, then why are you here. Why is everyone here wasting their time crying and whining over nothing.

[pintsofguinness]

If everyones sick of us, then why are you here. Why is everyone here wasting their time crying and whining over nothing.

Because we care about the GAA.

[Reillers]

No you just love a great bitching session. If you cared about the GAA, you wouldn't be on here slating and insulting some of the players who've made it great, they've done nothing. The only thing they can do is retire which looks very likely at this stage, so then ye'll have to find something else to bitch about because a good 9 or so of these "shower of pricks,"-Sean Og, Donal Og, Sully, Deane, the twins..etc..some of the best players in the country, will be gone, our players are so sick of the things like they are now, the board and it's politics, that they'll all walk and we'll have no one and ye'll have ye're way, but ye'll have to find someone else to whine and cry about. Don't worry it'll all be over soon. So be ready to go bitch at someone else.

[INDIANA]

sorry reillers you're losing the run of yourself the GAA would survive quite well without Cork. you have a god like perception of yourselves that the world will stop turning if Cork ceased to exist. there is an unhealthy level of arrogance in the above post. No-one gives a shit about the greivances of the Cork players anymore. Its time to put up or shut up, if they don't want to play, then let someone else.
in 2002 they had a point and i supported them. i don't support them on this, hard work on the training ground will beat the cats , not the manager. there is an element of not looking in the mirror on this one by the players.