Just curious as to how many intercounty players still going after turning 35, who was the last outfield player to still play inter county past the age of 40?
Tony Browne hurled for Waterford at age 41.
Last over 40s player I remember was Billy Fitzpatrick who came on as a sub for Mayo in the drawn All Ireland semi in 1985 when he was 42. He scored a fine point that day. He was brought on again in the replay but didn't score that day.
BTW, Dublin won that game well; 2-12 to 1-07.
I'm sure leaving Croke park that day he felt that his chances of playing in a senior all Ireland final were starting to run thin.
Linden played for Down in 2003 at 40 did he not?
Peadar Gardiner still starting from Crossmolina wing back at 38/39. Playing well too.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 23, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
Peadar Gardiner still starting from Crossmolina wing back at 38/39. Playing well too.
Doing well to be playing in the middle 8 at that age, had to retire into the full back line at 37, tank used to empty halfway through the second half.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 23, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 23, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
Peadar Gardiner still starting from Crossmolina wing back at 38/39. Playing well too.
Doing well to be playing in the middle 8 at that age, had to retire into the full back line at 37, tank used to empty halfway through the second half.
Not so sure. At that age you are sure to have lost speed and power, but with the correct training you can hold on to your cardiovascular fitness well in to your 40's. Mid 30's myself and still able to go pretty well (by my standard) around the middle 8, but I wouldn't have a hope from a standing start in the full back line.
In 5-10 years time I don't think we will see any intercounty players in mid 30's.
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 23, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 23, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
Peadar Gardiner still starting from Crossmolina wing back at 38/39. Playing well too.
Doing well to be playing in the middle 8 at that age, had to retire into the full back line at 37, tank used to empty halfway through the second half.
Not so sure. At that age you are sure to have lost speed and power, but with the correct training you can hold on to your cardiovascular fitness well in to your 40's. Mid 30's myself and still able to go pretty well (by my standard) around the middle 8, but I wouldn't have a hope from a standing start in the full back line.
In 5-10 years time I don't think we will see any intercounty players in mid 30's.
Haven't lost much speed actually, concentrate on explosive stuff in the gym plus I'd be going from a rolling rather than a standing start. The benefits of being a forward in a previous life is knowing where the danger is and where the forward wants to run to.
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
Not so sure. At that age you are sure to have lost speed and power, but with the correct training you can hold on to your cardiovascular fitness well in to your 40's. Mid 30's myself and still able to go pretty well (by my standard) around the middle 8, but I wouldn't have a hope from a standing start in the full back line.
In 5-10 years time I don't think we will see any intercounty players in mid 30's.
It is getting rarer all right, sad to see how some players lose their legs completely in there early 30s. Seeing Tiernan McCann ghost by Karl Lacy (only 32) is a case in point. The oldest Dub is Bernard Brogan at 33, Mayo have Andy Moran at 33, Tyrone have Sean Cavanagh at 34 while Kerry's oldest is Donaghy at 34 as far as I can see. So there is no real elder statesman in any of the top teams. Cork have Donncha O'Connor still going at 36 but that is a reflection of where they are at.
Monaghan keep their ages a secret but Vinnie Corey can't be too young now, while Dessie Mone has plenty of miles on the clock.
From a Kildare perspective we still have Eamon Callaghan coming on as a sub and he has to be at least 35 at this stage. Ollie Lyons is the only starter over the age of 30 and at 31 he has not lost an inch of pace and would be up there with the quickest players in the country still. Many others of a similar age did not age as well, whether that was down to the intense training in the McGeeney years remains to be seen. Johnny Doyle is still class at club level at the age of 39.
Come to think of it, half of our backline from last Saturday's qualifer are each around the 35 mark, and Breheny at CHF is 36.
Socrates was well into his 50s.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 23, 2017, 07:37:11 PM
Come to think of it, half of our backline from last Saturday's qualifer are each around the 35 mark, and Breheny at CHF is 36.
Ross Donovan can't be young now, what age is Brendan Egan too?
Another question would be when was the last time a father and son both played on the same inter county team?
For Westmeath Denis Glennon (33) is the oldest with the footballers and had only missed 1 year since 2003. With the hurlers Brendan Murtagh is still going at 35. I reckon he probably made his senior debut as a minor, which would have been 2000. Can't be sure though.
It's funny though, I've noticed most of the senior club teams in the county have got older in the past few years. Which goes against the trend at county. May be an outlier though.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 23, 2017, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 23, 2017, 07:37:11 PM
Come to think of it, half of our backline from last Saturday's qualifer are each around the 35 mark, and Breheny at CHF is 36.
Ross Donovan can't be young now, what age is Brendan Egan too?
Another question would be when was the last time a father and son both played on the same inter county team?
Both are 34/35 anyway, Donovan was last U21 in 2003 I think, Egan maybe had another year after that, Harrison would be 35 also.
"Smoking" Joe McNally still togs (did last year anyhow) for Bohernabreena, div 11 south.
Martin shovlin bound to be oldest.
Maggie , the Laois hurler who recently passed away, was playing into his 50s. Joe Cooney hurled with Sarsfields into his 40s. He never lost it. I think Mike Coleman played on with Abbeyknockmoy. Ciaran McDonald was playing relatively recently.
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 08:04:44 PM
For Westmeath Denis Glennon (33) is the oldest with the footballers and had only missed 1 year since 2003. With the hurlers Brendan Murtagh is still going at 35. I reckon he probably made his senior debut as a minor, which would have been 2000. Can't be sure though.
How many times has he packed it in
Quote from: ONeill on June 23, 2017, 07:42:32 PM
Socrates was well into his 50s.
UCD or Royal college of surgeons
Quote from: seafoid on June 23, 2017, 08:52:38 PM
Maggie , the Laois hurler who recently passed away, was playing into his 50s. Joe Cooney hurled with Sarsfields into his 40s. He never lost it. I think Mike Coleman played on with Abbeyknockmoy. Ciaran McDonald was playing relatively recently.
I think Maurice Fitz is still playing away with the Mary's. He was until recently anyway.
last played in 2015 I think - he was manager at the time
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Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 23, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
Not so sure. At that age you are sure to have lost speed and power, but with the correct training you can hold on to your cardiovascular fitness well in to your 40's. Mid 30's myself and still able to go pretty well (by my standard) around the middle 8, but I wouldn't have a hope from a standing start in the full back line.
In 5-10 years time I don't think we will see any intercounty players in mid 30's.
It is getting rarer all right, sad to see how some players lose their legs completely in there early 30s. Seeing Tiernan McCann ghost by Karl Lacy (only 32) is a case in point. The oldest Dub is Bernard Brogan at 33, Mayo have Andy Moran at 33, Tyrone have Sean Cavanagh at 34 while Kerry's oldest is Donaghy at 34 as far as I can see. So there is no real elder statesman in any of the top teams. Cork have Donncha O'Connor still going at 36 but that is a reflection of where they are at.
Monaghan keep their ages a secret but Vinnie Corey can't be too young now, while Dessie Mone has plenty of miles on the clock.
No secret at all, they'll be in the program tomorrow sure. Thankfully the media seem to have dropped the "Monaghan are an aging team" that was going on for a while there. With the exception of the two lads you mention, I believe our whole squad is 29/30 and under. But yeah, Vinny and Dessie are 34 and 33 respectively so around the same as the other older players you mention. Gollogly would be about the same but I haven't seen him in a match day squad for a while now.
Ryan McCloskey must be 35/36 at this stage. He's been around since I was young. Which was long ago.
Was chatting to Ronan Murtagh last week in Ballyholland and it would seem that of the Down All Ireland minor team of 99, he's the only one still playing club football still, though Benny the legend has the occasional stab at it between injuries.
A young man's game.
Quote from: heffo on June 23, 2017, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 08:04:44 PM
For Westmeath Denis Glennon (33) is the oldest with the footballers and had only missed 1 year since 2003. With the hurlers Brendan Murtagh is still going at 35. I reckon he probably made his senior debut as a minor, which would have been 2000. Can't be sure though.
How many times has he packed it in
Glennon or Murtagh?
Glennon walked a few times but came back for championship every year bar last year.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 23, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
Not so sure. At that age you are sure to have lost speed and power, but with the correct training you can hold on to your cardiovascular fitness well in to your 40's. Mid 30's myself and still able to go pretty well (by my standard) around the middle 8, but I wouldn't have a hope from a standing start in the full back line.
In 5-10 years time I don't think we will see any intercounty players in mid 30's.
It is getting rarer all right, sad to see how some players lose their legs completely in there early 30s. Seeing Tiernan McCann ghost by Karl Lacy (only 32) is a case in point. The oldest Dub is Bernard Brogan at 33, Mayo have Andy Moran at 33, Tyrone have Sean Cavanagh at 34 while Kerry's oldest is Donaghy at 34 as far as I can see. So there is no real elder statesman in any of the top teams. Cork have Donncha O'Connor still going at 36 but that is a reflection of where they are at.
Monaghan keep their ages a secret but Vinnie Corey can't be too young now, while Dessie Mone has plenty of miles on the clock.
From a Kildare perspective we still have Eamon Callaghan coming on as a sub and he has to be at least 35 at this stage. Ollie Lyons is the only starter over the age of 30 and at 31 he has not lost an inch of pace and would be up there with the quickest players in the country still. Many others of a similar age did not age as well, whether that was down to the intense training in the McGeeney years remains to be seen. Johnny Doyle is still class at club level at the age of 39.
Denis Bastic(36) is Dublin oldest player.
Ricey is still flying for his club, will be forty this year
Quote from: PMG1 on June 24, 2017, 12:21:06 AM
Ricey is still flying for his club, will be forty this year
He didn't have much ability to lose in the first place.
Quote from: ONeill on June 23, 2017, 07:42:32 PM
Socrates was well into his 50s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6nI1v7mwwA
Quote from: Gael85 on June 24, 2017, 12:02:25 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 23, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
Not so sure. At that age you are sure to have lost speed and power, but with the correct training you can hold on to your cardiovascular fitness well in to your 40's. Mid 30's myself and still able to go pretty well (by my standard) around the middle 8, but I wouldn't have a hope from a standing start in the full back line.
In 5-10 years time I don't think we will see any intercounty players in mid 30's.
It is getting rarer all right, sad to see how some players lose their legs completely in there early 30s. Seeing Tiernan McCann ghost by Karl Lacy (only 32) is a case in point. The oldest Dub is Bernard Brogan at 33, Mayo have Andy Moran at 33, Tyrone have Sean Cavanagh at 34 while Kerry's oldest is Donaghy at 34 as far as I can see. So there is no real elder statesman in any of the top teams. Cork have Donncha O'Connor still going at 36 but that is a reflection of where they are at.
Monaghan keep their ages a secret but Vinnie Corey can't be too young now, while Dessie Mone has plenty of miles on the clock.
From a Kildare perspective we still have Eamon Callaghan coming on as a sub and he has to be at least 35 at this stage. Ollie Lyons is the only starter over the age of 30 and at 31 he has not lost an inch of pace and would be up there with the quickest players in the country still. Many others of a similar age did not age as well, whether that was down to the intense training in the McGeeney years remains to be seen. Johnny Doyle is still class at club level at the age of 39.
Denis Bastic(36) is Dublin oldest player.
Is nowhere near getting a game this year I'm afraid. Not sure why he stayed on to be hoenst
I forgot about Bastick, never realised he was so old. Dublin's conveyor belt of talent hasn't really produced the midfielders in comparison to other positions. Is there any dominant 6'4"+ midfielders doing the business at club level who might be brought in? The mark has brought the demand for proper midfielders back.
Enda Muldoon, at 39, is still producing the goods for Ballinderry at club level. He is generally playing around midfield. He played in the '95 minor side that were beaten by Westmeath in the All-Ireland final.
Are SON or Dooher playing still?
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
Are SON or Dooher playing still?
SON yes, Dooher no.
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2017, 12:47:29 AM
Quote from: PMG1 on June 24, 2017, 12:21:06 AM
Ricey is still flying for his club, will be forty this year
He didn't have much ability to lose in the first place.
I take it youre joking?!
Still playing mid 30s ff line senior club. Keeping the beef off as you get older is the hardest part. Lucky not to suffer niggly hamstring injuries etc that retired most ppl my age. Long time retired so keep it going as long as you can
Feet get better with age. Pace doesnt!
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 24, 2017, 02:27:48 PM
I forgot about Bastick, never realised he was so old. Dublin's conveyor belt of talent hasn't really produced the midfielders in comparison to other positions. Is there any dominant 6'4"+ midfielders doing the business at club level who might be brought in? The mark has brought the demand for proper midfielders back.
We do have Fenton in the middle but need somebody beside him.Emmett O'Conghaile and Shane Carthy haven't stepped up from their promising underage days.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 24, 2017, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 24, 2017, 02:27:48 PM
I forgot about Bastick, never realised he was so old. Dublin's conveyor belt of talent hasn't really produced the midfielders in comparison to other positions. Is there any dominant 6'4"+ midfielders doing the business at club level who might be brought in? The mark has brought the demand for proper midfielders back.
We do have Fenton in the middle but need somebody beside him.Emmett O'Conghaile and Shane Carthy haven't stepped up from their promising underage days.
Ye could have Brian Mullins beside Fenton and ye'd still have one of the best midfields in the country
I suppose he wasn't a big name nationally but current Kildare coach Ronan Sweeney is still playing club for Moorefield. In fact was the best man on the field until he saw red in the county final last year.
He is in serious shape to be fair to him and he must be 40 at this stage. The straight red also saw him suspended for the first round of the SFC so the fekcer is playing B football too...
Johnny Doyle is still flying for Allenwood. Both lads would be pure club men in fairness.
Charlie Carter still playing Junior A for Young Irelands and in his last match scored 1-5.
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
Are SON or Dooher playing still?
I think Dooher played in the reserve championship last week
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 08:04:44 PM
For Westmeath Denis Glennon (33) is the oldest with the footballers and had only missed 1 year since 2003. With the hurlers Brendan Murtagh is still going at 35. I reckon he probably made his senior debut as a minor, which would have been 2000. Can't be sure though.
It's funny though, I've noticed most of the senior club teams in the county have got older in the past few years. Which goes against the trend at county. May be an outlier though.
Close shark. Championship debut: April 15, 2001 v Carlow (hurling), June 11, 2001 v Wexford (football)
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on June 25, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2017, 06:00:12 PM
Are SON or Dooher playing still?
I think Dooher played in the reserve championship last week
Yeah I believe Stevie still lines out at FF this year. Dooher club chairman this year.
Quote from: ONeill on June 23, 2017, 07:42:32 PM
Socrates was well into his 50s.
Sigerson doesn't count.
Mickey Linden scored 3 points for Mayobridge in the Down Reserve Football Championship today. He'll be 54 next month.
Quote from: Gold on June 24, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2017, 12:47:29 AM
Quote from: PMG1 on June 24, 2017, 12:21:06 AM
Ricey is still flying for his club, will be forty this year
He didn't have much ability to lose in the first place.
I take it youre joking?!
Still playing mid 30s ff line senior club. Keeping the beef off as you get older is the hardest part. Lucky not to suffer niggly hamstring injuries etc that retired most ppl my age. Long time retired so keep it going as long as you can
Feet get better with age. Pace doesnt!
He's just jealous. He hasn't got over a Roscommon player trying to act the tough guy in an u21 game a few years ago and being humbled in the exchange.
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 02, 2017, 03:37:19 PM
Mickey Linden scored 3 points for Mayobridge in the Down Reserve Football Championship today. He'll be 54 next month.
Amazing man.
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 08:04:44 PM
For Westmeath Denis Glennon (33) is the oldest with the footballers and had only missed 1 year since 2003. With the hurlers Brendan Murtagh is still going at 35. I reckon he probably made his senior debut as a minor, which would have been 2000. Can't be sure though.
It's funny though, I've noticed most of the senior club teams in the county have got older in the past few years. Which goes against the trend at county. May be an outlier though.
Brendan packed it all in today at 35 I think. Amazing player, as is always said about players like him, he would have started on any half forward line over last 15 years. He broke my heart many times scoring last minute frees and goals to draw/win games v Carlow.
Not enough people got to see him play, if he had been born a few miles either direction he'd have been an all star for sure.
Its always the same for Carlow, Westmeath etc...but what a player and hopefully Westmeath hurling will have the brains to keep that guy involved.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 02, 2017, 08:08:28 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 24, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2017, 12:47:29 AM
Quote from: PMG1 on June 24, 2017, 12:21:06 AM
Ricey is still flying for his club, will be forty this year
He didn't have much ability to lose in the first place.
I take it youre joking?!
Still playing mid 30s ff line senior club. Keeping the beef off as you get older is the hardest part. Lucky not to suffer niggly hamstring injuries etc that retired most ppl my age. Long time retired so keep it going as long as you can
Feet get better with age. Pace doesnt!
He's just jealous. He hasn't got over a Roscommon player trying to act the tough guy in an u21 game a few years ago and being humbled in the exchange.
Brilliant. I forgot about that actually, embarassing behaviour that day from more than a few of the Roscommon players.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 23, 2017, 11:09:00 PM
Ryan McCloskey must be 35/36 at this stage. He's been around since I was young. Which was long ago.
Was chatting to Ronan Murtagh last week in Ballyholland and it would seem that of the Down All Ireland minor team of 99, he's the only one still playing club football still, though Benny the legend has the occasional stab at it between injuries.
A young man's game.
Wobbler, Liam Doyle still playing well for Liatroim, as is John Clarke for his new club St Johns! I'm not sure if there's any others still playing.
Quote from: stevecw on July 04, 2017, 12:06:48 AM
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2017, 08:04:44 PM
For Westmeath Denis Glennon (33) is the oldest with the footballers and had only missed 1 year since 2003. With the hurlers Brendan Murtagh is still going at 35. I reckon he probably made his senior debut as a minor, which would have been 2000. Can't be sure though.
It's funny though, I've noticed most of the senior club teams in the county have got older in the past few years. Which goes against the trend at county. May be an outlier though.
Brendan packed it all in today at 35 I think. Amazing player, as is always said about players like him, he would have started on any half forward line over last 15 years. He broke my heart many times scoring last minute frees and goals to draw/win games v Carlow.
Not enough people got to see him play, if he had been born a few miles either direction he'd have been an all star for sure.
Its always the same for Carlow, Westmeath etc...but what a player and hopefully Westmeath hurling will have the brains to keep that guy involved.
I was glad to see him come on in Thurles the other day. He deserved to sign off in a game v the All Ireland Champions, in Thurles, and with Westmeath doing themselves good justice. A great player for them.
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 02, 2017, 03:37:19 PM
Mickey Linden scored 3 points for Mayobridge in the Down Reserve Football Championship today. He'll be 54 next month.
Mickey togged out last weekend again
https://twitter.com/mungo4/status/1031230815341039622
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Quote from: ApresMatch on July 04, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 23, 2017, 11:09:00 PM
Ryan McCloskey must be 35/36 at this stage. He's been around since I was young. Which was long ago.
Was chatting to Ronan Murtagh last week in Ballyholland and it would seem that of the Down All Ireland minor team of 99, he's the only one still playing club football still, though Benny the legend has the occasional stab at it between injuries.
A young man's game.
Wobbler, Liam Doyle still playing well for Liatroim, as is John Clarke for his new club St Johns! I'm not sure if there's any others still playing.
A year on and both were on opposing sides last night in the championship.
Its the longer recovery after matches I found the main issue . Yoga , pilates, pool sessions and a much longer stretching programme all very important in injury limitation for the over 35...
And I was only the U8 manager
Quote from: Orchard park on August 29, 2018, 11:59:42 PM
Its the longer recovery after matches I found the main issue . Yoga , pilates, pool sessions and a much longer stretching programme all very important in injury limitation for the over 35...
And I was only the U8 manager
;D
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/290364
55-year-old Linden kicks 'outrageous point' in Down final
Lads this man was playing Inter County Football in 1981 !!
He's still out kicking 50 yard points in the Down Reserve Final. Unbelievable.
There's not many his age who could even kick a ball 50 yards, let alone accurately.
Plus, they'd need a child to run after it for them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/45546401
There's a lad called Barry McGaharn playing for Cootehill Celtic in Cavan at full back. I think he is 43 but maybe more. Cootehill are a divison 1 senior championship team.
Colm McAlarney was man of the match in the 1968 All Ireland final. He was still playing for Castlewellan I think when they lost the down county final in 1991. Mickey Linden must have been 41 or 42 when he had unfortunate collusion in the Ulster final with Francie Bellew in 2004.
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Dermot McArdle still lines out for Castleblayney Faughs senior side. 42 I think and playing rather well I hear. Think he first played for Monaghan around 1996