Football qualifier route 2018

[Mayo4Sam14]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

[Syferus]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Yeah. That makes sense.

[Whishtup]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

I dunno- a team that makes it through the qualifiers is going to be half handy.  We already have the possibility of 1 or two weaker teams getting to the super 8's and getting tanked by everybody.  Is it possible that a 2nd tier team in super 8s pulls off  one upset, draws another match and beats another 2nd tier team?

[Mayo4Sam14]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

I dunno- a team that makes it through the qualifiers is going to be half handy.  We already have the possibility of 1 or two weaker teams getting to the super 8's and getting tanked by everybody.  Is it possible that a 2nd tier team in super 8s pulls off  one upset, draws another match and beats another 2nd tier team?

Yes as it is that's correct, but if you fix the draw so stronger teams can draw each other and the same with weaker teams then the super 8s ends up half of each and very imbalanced

[Whishtup]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

I dunno- a team that makes it through the qualifiers is going to be half handy.  We already have the possibility of 1 or two weaker teams getting to the super 8's and getting tanked by everybody.  Is it possible that a 2nd tier team in super 8s pulls off  one upset, draws another match and beats another 2nd tier team?

Yes as it is that's correct, but if you fix the draw so stronger teams can draw each other and the same with weaker teams then the super 8s ends up half of each and very imbalanced

Does it not do more to bridge the gulf between the tiers, though?  Under the current system, it is very hard for a weaker team to reach super 8's.  I think it would restore the do or die spirit to the provincial championship.  You would also have a potentially stonking game at round 3 of qualifiers which is much better than watching Carlow getting hammered by Tyrone and Monaghan hammering Waterford.  At least in the super 8's, a Carlow may get a chance to win 1-2 of the games.  The all ireland was built on the excitement that you may have to compete with the best in the country-what better place to do that than the super 8's where you get a 2nd and 3rd chance?

[Rossfan]

Don't let anyone first division teams compete in the All Ireland.
Let them win their Provincials and then feck off with their shiny cups.

[Orior]

Qualifiers are so much more interesting and 'exotic' that the Provincial Championship. Particularly when your team ain't that good.

[RedHand88]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

[GrandMasterFlash]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

The clue is in the name i.e. Super 8. Rigging it to be anything other than that is doing no one any good.

[Ball Hopper]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

The clue is in the name i.e. Super 8. Rigging it to be anything other than that is doing no one any good.

Except that's a media tag...the proper name is the All-Ireland Quarter Final Group Stage.

[Owenmoresider]

This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

The clue is in the name i.e. Super 8. Rigging it to be anything other than that is doing no one any good.

Except that's a media tag...the proper name is the All-Ireland Quarter Final Group Stage.

Exactly. Some media person presumably christened it that and all of the herd followed.

[Whishtup]

Does Super mean Division 1? What's the point if that's the case?

[Rossfan]

[cornetto]

Armagh     
Tyrone
Monahan
Kildare

Fermanagh
Roscommon
Cork
Laois

[Solo_run]

Armagh     
Tyrone
Monahan
Kildare

Fermanagh
Roscommon
Cork
Laois

3x Division 1 (Kildare, Tyrone, Monaghan)
2x Division 2 (Cork and Roscommon)
2x Division 3 (Armagh and Fermanagh)
1x Division 4 (Laois)

Would like to see

Roscommon vs Kildare
Tyrone vs Fermanagh
Monaghan vs Cork
Armagh vs Laois

Not bad having representation across all the divisions.