Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[AQMP]

Sadly, the only way you'd get a big crowd of locals in Casement Park was to have a Celtic v Rangers game.

Celtic v Man Utd would probably draw a bigger crowd

[johnneycool]

Another fecking white Elephant. Only a single game a year is likely to even trouble the 30k mark. The GAA has to learn that building out-sized stadiums only results in destroying the athmosphere of almost every game played there. And once something like this is built it becomes a clusterf**k to try and get as many games played in it as possible just to service the mountain of the debt it generated.

There won't be that much debt as £61.4m of it will be footed by the NI tax payer, but I agree with you point on the lack of atmosphere in a big stadium which will be almost empty most games.

Look out for Pairc ui Chaoimh, now there is a white elephant in a province with 3 30K plus stadiums in Limerick, Thurles and Killarney.

[rodney trotter]

I think Amagh would have been best suited location wise to host Ulster Finals. Its more mid Ulster, and isn't that far of a journey for most Ulster Counties. Belfast is still a 2 drive from Cavan, Counties like Tyrone, Down, Derry aren't far from Belfast, as they are Northern.

Clones was a bit of a spin from North Donegal, Derry etc, I think Armagh would have been better suited. I think the Capacitiy is only 25,00 in Armagh so thats proably why it wasn't chosen. But they coulld have chosen it as the County that would get the redeveloped, anways I'm looking forward to seeing Casement when its finished. It will be in the running to host a few games duing the RWC 2020 if Irelands gets the go ahead..

[armaghniac]

This stadium will be something of a white elephant. Unless Armagh, Tyrone or Down are going well that year and involved in the games you are never going to have a huge crowd there. It is poorly situated nationally for quarter finals or the like and a politics will prevent it ever being rented out to the IRFU.

[Tony Baloney]

This stadium will be something of a white elephant. Unless Armagh, Tyrone or Down are going well that year and involved in the games you are never going to have a huge crowd there. It is poorly situated nationally for quarter finals or the like and a politics will prevent it ever being rented out to the IRFU.

What about Antrim and Derry you bastard?! 

[sheamy]

This stadium will be something of a white elephant. Unless Armagh, Tyrone or Down are going well that year and involved in the games you are never going to have a huge crowd there. It is poorly situated nationally for quarter finals or the like and a politics will prevent it ever being rented out to the IRFU.

What about Antrim and Derry you b**tard?! 

Let's not forget Donegal 

[maxpower]

I doubt if the thousands are staying away from Antrim Club games because Casement isn't all seated.

Antrim club finals are as well attended as any other county I would imagine.  Could be 7,000 at some of the recent finals. 

[Leo]

Another fecking white Elephant. Only a single game a year is likely to even trouble the 30k mark. The GAA has to learn that building out-sized stadiums only results in destroying the athmosphere of almost every game played there. And once something like this is built it becomes a clusterf**k to try and get as many games played in it as possible just to service the mountain of the debt it generated.

The only way this makes sense is for EVERY Ulster football championship game to be played in those bleak and unwelcoming soccer-city suburbs - otherwise you are looking at ONE game a year attracting 20,000 plus.
Meantime the money ploughed into the ego projects that are unused Pairc Esler, Morgan Armagh, Celtic Park (near Brandywell), Brutal Brewster, Kingspan's empty terraces and Ohmygod Omagh looks more ridiculous every day.
And not only are the Ulster GAA mandarins who plan and delievr these monsrtrous waste of resources smiling patronisingly at us from the pages of the Irish News - we are giving them bloody hero status. Daft beyond words.
In a few years the tumbleweed of disuse will fill the so-called stadia across the province.
Croke Park depends on Jedward, Notre Dame, the Euharistic Congess and the like to survive. Maybe we can get the latest  Carlisle Circus crazies to fill Casement for a few jousts.

[rodney trotter]

I thought the development of the Stadium which was being built on the Maze prison would have been Antrim's new Ground? There has been talk of that development since 2007.. what happened with that?(think alot were against it) It was suppose to be a ground share between GAA and the IFA. Would have saved if had gone through, not relying on the GAA for 17 million.

[RealSpiritof98]

Another fecking white Elephant. Only a single game a year is likely to even trouble the 30k mark. The GAA has to learn that building out-sized stadiums only results in destroying the athmosphere of almost every game played there. And once something like this is built it becomes a clusterf**k to try and get as many games played in it as possible just to service the mountain of the debt it generated.

The only way this makes sense is for EVERY Ulster football championship game to be played in those bleak and unwelcoming soccer-city suburbs - otherwise you are looking at ONE game a year attracting 20,000 plus.
Meantime the money ploughed into the ego projects that are unused Pairc Esler, Morgan Armagh, Celtic Park (near Brandywell), Brutal Brewster, Kingspan's empty terraces and Ohmygod Omagh looks more ridiculous every day.
And not only are the Ulster GAA mandarins who plan and delievr these monsrtrous waste of resources smiling patronisingly at us from the pages of the Irish News - we are giving them bloody hero status. Daft beyond words.
In a few years the tumbleweed of disuse will fill the so-called stadia across the province.
Croke Park depends on Jedward, Notre Dame, the Euharistic Congess and the like to survive. Maybe we can get the latest  Carlisle Circus crazies to fill Casement for a few jousts.

you obviously dont know much about Armagh GAA, took them long enough to build the feckin thing but fairs fair they are using the shit out of it and proper order it is too.

[Tony Baloney]

Another fecking white Elephant. Only a single game a year is likely to even trouble the 30k mark. The GAA has to learn that building out-sized stadiums only results in destroying the athmosphere of almost every game played there. And once something like this is built it becomes a clusterf**k to try and get as many games played in it as possible just to service the mountain of the debt it generated.

The only way this makes sense is for EVERY Ulster football championship game to be played in those bleak and unwelcoming soccer-city suburbs - otherwise you are looking at ONE game a year attracting 20,000 plus.
Meantime the money ploughed into the ego projects that are unused Pairc Esler, Morgan Armagh, Celtic Park (near Brandywell), Brutal Brewster, Kingspan's empty terraces and Ohmygod Omagh looks more ridiculous every day.
And not only are the Ulster GAA mandarins who plan and delievr these monsrtrous waste of resources smiling patronisingly at us from the pages of the Irish News - we are giving them bloody hero status. Daft beyond words.
In a few years the tumbleweed of disuse will fill the so-called stadia across the province.
Croke Park depends on Jedward, Notre Dame, the Euharistic Congess and the like to survive. Maybe we can get the latest  Carlisle Circus crazies to fill Casement for a few jousts.

you obviously dont know much about Armagh GAA, took them long enough to build the feckin thing but fairs fair they are using the shit out of it and proper order it is too.

Parking is a bit of a nightmare in Armagh when there is a big match on. The CBS carpark was open and free of charge for the Middletown v Cuchullains match at the weekend and due to the small crowd all was good. However, they tend to charge £3 for the big football matches as far as I can see and consequently cars are abandoned everywhere from the City Hotel to Mullan's shop out the Keady Road. Who levies this charge?

[armaghniac]

I think the Morgan Athletic grounds is an example of a ground put to good use. The stand is substantially full for county league games and county championship games. The rest of the ground is relatively inexpensive terracing which is needed for county league fixtures involving neighbours and championship games. Armagh proved a useful venue for the likes of Down v Monaghan or Tyrone. It is well down in the tables of unused GAA grounds.

As for parking, no place is going to have tens of thousands of parking spaces nearby not being used, waiting ready just for the odd game.

[sheamy]

Another fecking white Elephant. Only a single game a year is likely to even trouble the 30k mark. The GAA has to learn that building out-sized stadiums only results in destroying the athmosphere of almost every game played there. And once something like this is built it becomes a clusterf**k to try and get as many games played in it as possible just to service the mountain of the debt it generated.

The only way this makes sense is for EVERY Ulster football championship game to be played in those bleak and unwelcoming soccer-city suburbs - otherwise you are looking at ONE game a year attracting 20,000 plus.
Meantime the money ploughed into the ego projects that are unused Pairc Esler, Morgan Armagh, Celtic Park (near Brandywell), Brutal Brewster, Kingspan's empty terraces and Ohmygod Omagh looks more ridiculous every day.
And not only are the Ulster GAA mandarins who plan and delievr these monsrtrous waste of resources smiling patronisingly at us from the pages of the Irish News - we are giving them bloody hero status. Daft beyond words.
In a few years the tumbleweed of disuse will fill the so-called stadia across the province.
Croke Park depends on Jedward, Notre Dame, the Euharistic Congess and the like to survive. Maybe we can get the latest  Carlisle Circus crazies to fill Casement for a few jousts.

I agree to a certain extent (minus the drama) with your sentiments. However, what is your solution?

Say Down draw Tyrone and Armagh draw Donegal next June and both want home matches. What would you do?

[Tony Baloney]

I think the Morgan Athletic grounds is an example of a ground put to good use. The stand is substantially full for county league games and county championship games. The rest of the ground is relatively inexpensive terracing which is needed for county league fixtures involving neighbours and championship games. Armagh proved a useful venue for the likes of Down v Monaghan or Tyrone. It is well down in the tables of unused GAA grounds.

As for parking, no place is going to have tens of thousands of parking spaces nearby not being used, waiting ready just for the odd game.

The Maze could have.

[saffron sam2]

Another fecking white Elephant. Only a single game a year is likely to even trouble the 30k mark. The GAA has to learn that building out-sized stadiums only results in destroying the athmosphere of almost every game played there. And once something like this is built it becomes a clusterf**k to try and get as many games played in it as possible just to service the mountain of the debt it generated.

The only way this makes sense is for EVERY Ulster football championship game to be played in those bleak and unwelcoming soccer-city suburbs - otherwise you are looking at ONE game a year attracting 20,000 plus.
Meantime the money ploughed into the ego projects that are unused Pairc Esler, Morgan Armagh, Celtic Park (near Brandywell), Brutal Brewster, Kingspan's empty terraces and Ohmygod Omagh looks more ridiculous every day.
And not only are the Ulster GAA mandarins who plan and delievr these monsrtrous waste of resources smiling patronisingly at us from the pages of the Irish News - we are giving them bloody hero status. Daft beyond words.
In a few years the tumbleweed of disuse will fill the so-called stadia across the province.
Croke Park depends on Jedward, Notre Dame, the Euharistic Congess and the like to survive. Maybe we can get the latest  Carlisle Circus crazies to fill Casement for a few jousts.

I agree to a certain extent (minus the drama) with your sentiments. However, what is your solution?

Say Down draw Tyrone and Armagh draw Donegal next June and both want home matches. What would you do?

They play on different Sundays, as is currently the case.