Will you vote for Fianna Fail?

Started by mayogodhelpus@gmail.com, November 19, 2010, 09:09:46 PM

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Will you vote for Fianna Fail?

Yes in the next election
44 (24.2%)
Maybe at some time in the future
24 (13.2%)
No never again
52 (28.6%)
I never have
62 (34.1%)

Total Members Voted: 182

mannix


mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

seafoid

"There has been much commentary about the need for senior bondholders to accept their share of the burden of this crisis. I certainly raised this matter in the course of the negotiations and the unanimous view of the ECB and the Commission was and is that no Programme would be possible if it were intended by us to dishonour senior debt. The strongly held belief among our European partners is that any move to impose burden sharing on this group of investors would have the potential to create a huge wave of further negative market sentiment towards the eurozone and its banks system. That apprehension was confirmed by Professor Honohan in an interview last Monday when he said there was no enthusiasm in Europe for this course of action.

There is simply no way that this country, whose banks are so dependent on international investors, can unilaterally renege on senior bondholders against the wishes of the ECB. Those who think we could do so are living in fantasy land. Worse still, those who know we cannot do so but who nonetheless persist with the line are damaging this country and its financial system: and all for the sake of a cheap headline. It is a case of politics as usual even at this most difficult time.

The idea which is now commonplace, that some how there are no costs associated with default is entirely incorrect. Ireland is hugely dependent on Foreign Direct Investment. These companies have large funds and investments in Ireland and directly and indirectly employ a quarter of million people in this economy. Any default on senior debt and the uncertainty that would cause would undoubtedly impact on the future investment decisions of these companies."

should be made available on a leaflet to every household in the country and placed in ads in every newspaper.
The death warrant for Fianna Fáil.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Declan

Is that what Lenihan said today Seafoid?

muppet

Quote from: seafoid on December 01, 2010, 06:45:02 PM
"There has been much commentary about the need for senior bondholders to accept their share of the burden of this crisis. I certainly raised this matter in the course of the negotiations and the unanimous view of the ECB and the Commission was and is that no Programme would be possible if it were intended by us to dishonour senior debt. The strongly held belief among our European partners is that any move to impose burden sharing on this group of investors would have the potential to create a huge wave of further negative market sentiment towards the eurozone and its banks system. That apprehension was confirmed by Professor Honohan in an interview last Monday when he said there was no enthusiasm in Europe for this course of action.

There is simply no way that this country, whose banks are so dependent on international investors, can unilaterally renege on senior bondholders against the wishes of the ECB. Those who think we could do so are living in fantasy land. Worse still, those who know we cannot do so but who nonetheless persist with the line are damaging this country and its financial system: and all for the sake of a cheap headline. It is a case of politics as usual even at this most difficult time.

The idea which is now commonplace, that some how there are no costs associated with default is entirely incorrect. Ireland is hugely dependent on Foreign Direct Investment. These companies have large funds and investments in Ireland and directly and indirectly employ a quarter of million people in this economy. Any default on senior debt and the uncertainty that would cause would undoubtedly impact on the future investment decisions of these companies."

should be made available on a leaflet to every household in the country and placed in ads in every newspaper.
The death warrant for Fianna Fáil.

What he meant was: I, Europe and your other betters are petrified of standing up to anonymous bondholders, so we will screw you, the taxpayer, who has no choice whatsoever. Now you should be eternally grateful for our bravery and to be honest your whinging is becoming irritating. You should know your place, plebs.
MWWSI 2017

seafoid

Quote from: Declan on December 01, 2010, 06:52:28 PM
Is that what Lenihan said today Seafoid?

Yes.

http://www.finance.gov.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=6602

it should be made known to everyone in the country and become part of what every primary school kid learns. The ultimate judgement on a party that has brought the country to its knees. 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

ardal

#216
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 26, 2010, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on November 24, 2010, 10:47:16 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 24, 2010, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on November 24, 2010, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 24, 2010, 10:32:39 PM
The only good thing the current government did was the smoking ban?

Enough is enough time for a change folks.

& the plastic bag tax, that was a good idea too.

Yeah that was great lol but Jaysus i'm scratching my head here to what else they did good?

Well there is a decent motorway network as long as you pretend that there is nowhere between Galway and Dundalk and noone needs to refuel or rest while driving on those moterways.

They did continue the work of Bruton & Reynolds in the North.


f**k I think I might be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

You can't be serious, even with your FG blinkers on. You can be a good poster on here but you are beginning to display the same sort of brainless sheep loyalty to a party that you accuse FF voters of having. How often I heard FF people say things like that about the "great" Haughey. How long after Bruton was in power did the 1st cease fire end. He was almost the cause of the complete collapse of negotiations.




Pretty sure that Major and british intransigence caused the downfall of the first ceasefire, not powerless Bruton et al

Declan

QuoteYes.

http://www.finance.gov.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=6602

it should be made known to everyone in the country and become part of what every primary school kid learns. The ultimate judgement on a party that has brought the country to its knees.

Delusional as well as treachorous - Disgusting

An Gaeilgoir

Watched the news last night, it seems there is a fingerprint machine in the immigration Bureau worth 20 million lying unused as the civil servants who will be operating it want to be re-graded (higher) and get more money. The machine will help track down fraudsters claiming dole in different countries. Another legacy of this FF govt. Corrupt unions.

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on December 02, 2010, 08:57:26 AM
Watched the news last night, it seems there is a fingerprint machine in the immigration Bureau worth 20 million lying unused as the civil servants who will be operating it want to be re-graded (higher) and get more money. The machine will help track down fraudsters claiming dole in different countries. Another legacy of this FF govt. Corrupt unions.

Unpatriotic, mé féiner, shortsited & undutiful, but not corruption I would say. Really need to start sacking these types, start the public sector cuts there.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Declan

#220
Latest Red C polls but FF at 13% behind SF at 16%

From Twitter (editor of the Irish Sun)

RED C/Irish Sun poll preview: FF 13pc, FG 32pc, Lab 24pc, SF 16pc, Grns 3, Inds 11. Biffo at 8 per cent, Gilmore 42.  :o :o :o

Interesting analysis from NUI Maynooth's Adrian Kavanagh on how the RedC numbers would equate into seats.....

FF 12, FG 67, LAB 50, SF 22, IND/OTH 15 (10 Left leaning IND/OTHs)

Rossfan

Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on December 02, 2010, 08:57:26 AM
. Corrupt unions.

Yah yeah blah blah... it's all the Unions' fault.
Give it a rest for Jasus sake.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Declan on December 02, 2010, 06:52:57 PM
Latest Red C polls but FF at 13% behind SF at 16%

From Twitter (editor of the Irish Sun)

RED C/Irish Sun poll preview: FF 13pc, FG 32pc, Lab 24pc, SF 16pc, Grns 3, Inds 11. Biffo at 8 per cent, Gilmore 42.  :o :o :o

Interesting analysis from NUI Maynooth's Adrian Kavanagh on how the RedC numbers would equate into seats.....

FF 12, FG 67, LAB 50, SF 22, IND/OTH 15 (10 Left leaning IND/OTHs)

WOW, 13% of voters still would choose FF than should.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

muppet

I'm not a huge fan of these endless polls but.......FF + Greens now at 16%. Even allowing for a margin of error of 4% that would put the entire Government at a maximum of 20%. 4 out of 5 voters don't want them. Any credible leader would call an election. But we don't do credible Government.
MWWSI 2017

seafoid

Another week and FF could be down to 10.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU