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That took longer than I expected.

To be honest, I struggle to watch football from the era where you were allowed to basically throw the ball into the net.

GAA Discussion / Re: Whingers
« on: Today at 11:06:23 AM »
Social media, lads.
That's the only difference between 'back then' and now.

GAA Discussion / Re: Great Players who were mostly Injured
« on: March 16, 2018, 01:30:29 PM »
Kevin Reilly battled chronic injuries for much of his career and still managed to be one of the better full-backs in the game.
As the Americans would say, he 'played hurt' more often than not.

GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
« on: March 16, 2018, 01:26:01 PM »
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.

I think you mean 'hill', Syf.

The Dubs.

Also, eliminate all pre-season competitions.
The likes of Martin Breheny & Co., i.e. vested interests in the media, are always going on about the GAA surrendering the Autumn/Winter period to soccer and rugby coverage.
Load of nonsense.
Late Spring and Summer is when everyone should be playing the bulk of their football.

But AZ those reasons never had to be mutually exclusive. It was a win for the players and win for the beancounters.

I wouldn't agree it's a win for the players, or not all of them at least.

It has removed the do or die element from championship, which has led to this 'The Championship Doesn't Start until August' stuff.
It has prolonged the season needlessly for a large percentage of teams.
It has negated the effects of the shock result in the provincials.

As far as I can see, the main beneficiaries are the big boys. Now you have to beat them twice to kill them off. Imagine if Tipperary or Cork beat Kerry in Munster. They should be gone, not stroll into a Super 8 via the back door.

I understand the awful finality of a bad day at the office for a competing team, but to me that was always part of the thrill of championship.

In saying that, I do recognise the value it has had for teams like Tipperary in their development. It's not all bad, but a stronger league with a knockout championship would suit me fine.

How do you make the league stronger though?

I think it actually has become a lot stronger in recent years.
It's taken very seriously now.
Genuine fans know it's probably the best football they'll see all year.
As Seanie said, if you take that format and stick it in the middle of summer, there would be massive levels of interest, across all divisions.
People are actively looking for things to do when the weather is good, particularly events where they can bring the whole family along.
Regular home games would do an awful lot to get kids interested and develop that sense of connection.

I think the starting point should be to accept that there is no perfect structure that will please everyone.
You could come up with an amazing solution to the existing problems with the inter-county structure, but how will that affect the clubs?
We have too many moving parts.
Too many people playing for too many teams.
The optimal solution will require compromise.

You never mightn't be that bad. Whoever it is will have won a fair few championship games and should be able to give a decent account of themselves. Weaker teams regularly get the shite hammered out of the them by big teams anyway - this actually will minimise that as they won't meet under this system bar the semi finals (which should be teams on the border of senior anyway).

And players want to play against the best - that is for definite.
Not having a go Seanie but it sort of sounds like the current system isn't too bad, which I agree with. Would the "lesser teams" prefer to win the second/third division championship or have a run through the current qualifers?

I was actually thinking the same thing after I posted about having 6 senior teams and two inter/junior teams in the quarter finals, which is probably more or less how it pans out at the moment.
Maybe it's more about the journey than the destination!
We'll still end up with the same teams at the business end of the championship, but we needn't be bored to tears in the process.
I still think the tiered system gives 'weaker' teams something tangible to play for, and that's hugely important.

Three tiers equally promoted and with the junior and intermediate champions getting back into the senior All-Ireland semi finals is my favoured approach. This is progress though. I'm very hopeful for this President.
Senior Semi Finals Seanie? You want the Junior Champions to be parachuted into an All Ireland semi final against Dublin and Mayo say?

This is based on a plan a friend of mine drew up and I misquoted it. Junior champions play intermediate runners up for a spot in the AI semi final. 10/12/12 Senior/Inter/Junior basis (including London, NY and KK or British Champions). At least the team coming through would have won a few championship games and theoretically every county can still win Sam Maguire. 

Nothing to fear for the senior teams and counteracts practically all of the arguments against counties having to play at lower tiers.

Not a bad idea but maybe bring them in sooner, perhaps at the quarter-final stage.
And maybe keep two spots open instead of one, i.e. top two in Inter and Junior play off (1st v 2nd).
That way, you still have a serious shot at getting a day out in the sun, with the realistic chance of taking a big scalp (vs. being landed into a semi-final against Dublin, Mayo or Kerry).

GAA Discussion / Re: Sunday Life article
« on: March 14, 2018, 04:25:28 PM »
GAA player falsely accused of rape pleads with gang to lift death threat

He's been named now by the family anyway in an attempt to sort this all out.
This relates to the original post in this thread, FYI.

Horan favours a two-tier football championship

GAA President John Horan has revealed he hopes to see the introduction of a two-tiered football championship before his term expires.

In a wide-ranging interview in today's Herald, Aogán Ó Fearghail's successor outlined his ambitions for his presidency and they include the splitting of the football championship in two by 2021.

"I would have hopes that we would end up with a two-tiered senior football championship. That would be one of my ambitions.

"I think if we put it together properly, we may get engagement. I think the previous attempt to put together such a competition didn't come to fruition.

"So as part of that review in three years' time, I would hope that we will end up with a two-tiered competition."

Thoughts on two tiers vs. three?
It's possible that two tiers may be more palatable to 'weaker' counties, but I think three tiers offers more scope for realistic & sustainable progression.
Still, it's a conversation that needs to happen sooner rather than later so i'm glad he's set his stall out this early.

GAA Discussion / Re: Sunday Life article
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:00:35 AM »
Fair enough.
The general Pomeroy/Kildress area sounds like the wild west.

GAA Discussion / Re: Sunday Life article
« on: March 13, 2018, 04:21:02 PM »
Pomeroy sounds like the wild west.

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