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That's not too bad a draw. An extra week rest as well having drawn the Ulster winners. Toughest game out of the road first then should be beating Clare and Cork. Though Cork were decent against Kerry a few weeks ago.

Allen never have a better chance of getting to the final with the draw he had there. Threw that away. Be hard to get over that for him.

[RE: the bench, McGuinness hasn't a lot of faith in his bench also as I think he brought O Baoill back on again]

Am I the only one thinking our conditioning is below were it should be? I thought in the 2nd half of normal time, a good few of our men stopped making the runs that we had been making in the 1st half. Think new legs then could have made a big difference. But management have been slow to implement changes. Oguz A big loss in that regards.

Spot on - conditioning has been a problem for me for a number of years (since P Donnelly has left). It was never an issue when he was about. The energy started to drop after 15 mins in the second half and the defensive line dropped a few yards which let Mogan and McGonnigle hit big scores that help Donegal get the momentum back (as well as a few bad turnovers from McShane and McDonnell).

RE: the bench, McGuinness hasn't a lot of faith in his bench also as I think he brought O Baoill back on again

True but by accident or design he at least seemed to have a plan for how he was going to use the players he did have faith in. In saying that it doesn't do much for the confidence of the players that he didn't use from the bench (and same for the Tyrone lads too).

Have always found Buff to be an eejit of the highest order. I'm not his target market but felt as if he'd disappeared for a while. His take on the foul restart was the first time I'd come across him in a couple of years.

Feels like he was going out of the way to be contrary.

I don't think Buff would have the wit to try and be contrary.

Lack of any sort of strength in depth killed us today. One enforced sub and another in the 63rd minute in normal time tells the tale.

Can't fault the effort and performance and probably should have seen it out in normal time. Once it went to extra time we were always going to struggle particularly with the lack of changes made.

Hopefully Meyler and Harte will be back for the group stage. I'd be expecting QF minimum and then after that who knows.

Our refusal by the management to use our bench killed us today. Yes, they may lack experience but if they were good enough in ET last week then surely they were today. To throw away a 3 point lead with 15 to go and then a 1 point lead deep into injury time was very disappointing.
Once Donegal went ahead, you never felt we would win

Yeah management obviously didn't trust or have belief in the lads sitting behind them. Making those 2 changes with 2 minutes of the extra time to go was a waste of time.

Seen Oguz walking about in a sling and I think it was Liam Gray with a heavy enough looking leg brace on as well yesterday. Be surprised if they were back for the rest of the season based on that.

Ideal group would be something like Mayo, Clare and Meath. Worst case scenario would be Dublin, Armagh and Cork. 

Lack of any sort of strength in depth killed us today. One enforced sub and another in the 63rd minute in normal time tells the tale.

Can't fault the effort and performance and probably should have seen it out in normal time. Once it went to extra time we were always going to struggle particularly with the lack of changes made.

Hopefully Meyler and Harte will be back for the group stage. I'd be expecting QF minimum and then after that who knows.

Down goals were a comedy of errors defensively. There was some running and handpassing in the build up, nothing more.

Genuinely shocked at how much credit people are trying to give down. They turned up to play as little football as possible, and when they did, were largely terrible at it.

Thomas Niblock has called it a phenomenal performance from Down on Twitter. I think your assessment is closer to the truth about their performance.

That's a poor call there on Duffy.

That was a poor spot

Players haven't learned yet the ref is taking no backchat.

That's a poor call there on Duffy.

Havoren poor on the frees.

Yip. You'd be raging if an u14 missed that one.

Same team as named last week. Oguz named at 12 like last week but theres no Liam Gray in the 26. Conn back in the squad. You'd have to think he will start.

I think its a real 50/50 game. Donegal did look impressive last week alright but I wouldn't exactly be going in fearing them. I had heard that Kilpatrick may be available which would be a real boost.

Tyrone by 2.

By all accounts he's the next Erik ten Hag.

I'll go against the grain there Tones and say I hope Allen wins it! Though it all depends if Ronnie fancies it. Surprised Williams is out he has been in decent form.