The IRISH RUGBY thread

[Milltown Row2]

Grealish was born in england brought up in england even played his gaa in england, so no, i dont think thats what hes on about at all mr2

I'd a list up, all of them born in England, like Grealish, I personally don't see the difference, if any of those players were given the opportunity to play for England, would they have chosen Ireland?

He said about Brazilian or Argentine rejects, big jacks team was a English b team, or English rejects 

If the rule is there then fine, use it, but stop complaining when people use it to their advantage or feel ones use of a rule is better than someone else's.

[6th sam]

cannot compare irish soccer players brought up in england from irish families with the rugby situation.

if the soccer side start turning out brasil, argentina etc rejects then you could argue that it's the same 

So Grealish, who hurled and played Gaelic football as a youngster, even played for Ireland youth soccer, those brought up in Irish families in England? Are they the ones you're talking about?

What's yoir point here? He is diaspora, clearly has two national identities. He was happy to develop as part of the Irish youth setup but unfortunately the commercial reality hit and was driven home by his agent who regrets another player in Bale sticking with Wales. You win some you lose some.

It's ludicrous and racist to label kids born in England or Scotland to Irish parents who chose to play for Ireland as 'plastics'.  Outrageous and on a GAA board?

Loads of people born in England perceive themselves as Irish. James Lowe evidently doesn't perceive himself as Irish . Rugby will finish as a sport if it continues to shoot itself in the foot. New Zealand, pacific islands and arguably Wales are the only countries where it's the major sport. If rugby is trying to compete for hearts and minds in other countries, it's going to have to regain some credibility. James Lowe is a great player and good luck to him in availing of the rules , but his interview yesterday exposing the farce that international rugby has become. Genuinely embarrassing

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Grealish was born in england brought up in england even played his gaa in england, so no, i dont think thats what hes on about at all mr2

I'd a list up, all of them born in England, like Grealish, I personally don't see the difference, if any of those players were given the opportunity to play for England, would they have chosen Ireland?

He said about Brazilian or Argentine rejects, big jacks team was a English b team, or English rejects 

If the rule is there then fine, use it, but stop complaining when people use it to their advantage or feel ones use of a rule is better than someone else's.

The difference is night and day. But if you cant see it or dont want to we'll leave it there, ive seen you in action before 😃😉

[JoG2]

cannot compare irish soccer players brought up in england from irish families with the rugby situation.

if the soccer side start turning out brasil, argentina etc rejects then you could argue that it's the same 

So Grealish, who hurled and played Gaelic football as a youngster, even played for Ireland youth soccer, those brought up in Irish families in England? Are they the ones you're talking about?

What's yoir point here? He is diaspora, clearly has two national identities. He was happy to develop as part of the Irish youth setup but unfortunately the commercial reality hit and was driven home by his agent who regrets another player in Bale sticking with Wales. You win some you lose some.

It's ludicrous and racist to label kids born in England or Scotland to Irish parents who chose to play for Ireland as 'plastics'.  Outrageous and on a GAA board?

Loads of people born in England perceive themselves as Irish. James Lowe evidently doesn't perceive himself as Irish . Rugby will finish as a sport if it continues to shoot itself in the foot. New Zealand, pacific islands and arguably Wales are the only countries where it's the major sport.

Eh, this isn't a new thing and rugby has managed to survive

[Milltown Row2]

Declan rice

[Baile Brigín 2]

cannot compare irish soccer players brought up in england from irish families with the rugby situation.

if the soccer side start turning out brasil, argentina etc rejects then you could argue that it's the same 

So Grealish, who hurled and played Gaelic football as a youngster, even played for Ireland youth soccer, those brought up in Irish families in England? Are they the ones you're talking about?

What's yoir point here? He is diaspora, clearly has two national identities. He was happy to develop as part of the Irish youth setup but unfortunately the commercial reality hit and was driven home by his agent who regrets another player in Bale sticking with Wales. You win some you lose some.

It's ludicrous and racist to label kids born in England or Scotland to Irish parents who chose to play for Ireland as 'plastics'.  Outrageous and on a GAA board?

Loads of people born in England perceive themselves as Irish. James Lowe evidently doesn't perceive himself as Irish . Rugby will finish as a sport if it continues to shoot itself in the foot. New Zealand, pacific islands and arguably Wales are the only countries where it's the major sport.

Eh, this isn't a new thing and rugby has managed to survive

It's a new thing here and is rugby improving on the pitch and thriving off it as a result?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Grealish was born in england brought up in england even played his gaa in england, so no, i dont think thats what hes on about at all mr2

I'd a list up, all of them born in England, like Grealish, I personally don't see the difference, if any of those players were given the opportunity to play for England, would they have chosen Ireland?

He said about Brazilian or Argentine rejects, big jacks team was a English b team, or English rejects 

If the rule is there then fine, use it, but stop complaining when people use it to their advantage or feel ones use of a rule is better than someone else's.

The difference is night and day. But if you cant see it or dont want to we'll leave it there, ive seen you in action before 😃😉

It's just anti soccer bigotry. It's just quare to see a Gael use rugby as a positive example to abuse soccer.

[From the Bunker]

It's a ludicrous rule but teams will exploit it to the maximum whilst it still exists. Players with absolutely no genealogical link to the country, just simply living and getting paid to play professionally there. It's an issue for rugby itself to solve but I don't see it changing anytime soon since there are so few countries who play the game at the highest level.

Imagine the outcry if the GAA brought in such a rule at intercounty level.   

But it is there?

Maybe you're right, Seanie Johnson instantly springs to mind!

No Sean Johnston was never a resident of Kildare.

Larry Tompkins, Shay Fahy, Karl O'Dwyer, Padraig Brogan, Martin Carney, Sean Lowry, Dan O'Neill (1957), Owen Mulligan, John Meyler, Tomas Tierney, Brian Murphy,

[Milltown Row2]

Let's get it straight from the start, soccer is way down my list of sports, rugby just as far down, I'd rather watch athletes over those sports btw.

It's the rules you are complaining about, if the rules allow non Irish born players to play for Ireland then so be it, having Irish grandparents makes it feel better for some I suppose, but if the country of their birth asked them to play they will pick England over Ireland every time, Rice and Grealish being the two obvious recent ones.

But I'm a racist for saying it!? Balloon

Change the rules and move on

[From the Bunker]

Let's get it straight from the start, soccer is way down my list of sports, rugby just as far down, I'd rather watch athletes over those sports btw.

It's the rules you are complaining about, if the rules allow non Irish born players to play for Ireland then so be it, having Irish grandparents makes it feel better for some I suppose, but if the country of their birth asked them to play they will pick England over Ireland every time, Rice and Grealish being the two obvious recent ones.

But I'm a racist for saying it!? Balloon

Change the rules and move on

Because of the size of our nation and the huge hold Gaelic Games have, both have to look outside the norm for players that will make both codes competitive on an international stage and keep us relevant.

[Milltown Row2]

Let's get it straight from the start, soccer is way down my list of sports, rugby just as far down, I'd rather watch athletes over those sports btw.

It's the rules you are complaining about, if the rules allow non Irish born players to play for Ireland then so be it, having Irish grandparents makes it feel better for some I suppose, but if the country of their birth asked them to play they will pick England over Ireland every time, Rice and Grealish being the two obvious recent ones.

But I'm a racist for saying it!? Balloon

Change the rules and move on

Because of the size of our nation and the huge hold Gaelic Games have, both have to look outside the norm for players that will make both codes competitive on an international stage and keep us relevant.

And that's fine, but at a professional level, these players chose to suit themselves, not who their grandma's are!

If you have a rule to play only Irish players in any sport you'll have players home grown and invested to playing for their country.

[Itchy]

Congrats Ireland. Another HUGE Autumn challenge game victory.

[From the Bunker]

Let's get it straight from the start, soccer is way down my list of sports, rugby just as far down, I'd rather watch athletes over those sports btw.

It's the rules you are complaining about, if the rules allow non Irish born players to play for Ireland then so be it, having Irish grandparents makes it feel better for some I suppose, but if the country of their birth asked them to play they will pick England over Ireland every time, Rice and Grealish being the two obvious recent ones.

But I'm a racist for saying it!? Balloon

Change the rules and move on

Because of the size of our nation and the huge hold Gaelic Games have, both have to look outside the norm for players that will make both codes competitive on an international stage and keep us relevant.

And that's fine, but at a professional level, these players chose to suit themselves, not who their grandma's are!

If you have a rule to play only Irish players in any sport you'll have players home grown and invested to playing for their country.

The problem is you won't have enough players of a decent standard.

Soccer Countries like Denmark. Uruguay, Norway, Croatia with small populations like Ireland don't have a major sport like GAA to contend with.

Congrats Ireland. Another HUGE Autumn challenge game victory.

You are late to the party with that one!

[Itchy]

Let's get it straight from the start, soccer is way down my list of sports, rugby just as far down, I'd rather watch athletes over those sports btw.

It's the rules you are complaining about, if the rules allow non Irish born players to play for Ireland then so be it, having Irish grandparents makes it feel better for some I suppose, but if the country of their birth asked them to play they will pick England over Ireland every time, Rice and Grealish being the two obvious recent ones.

But I'm a racist for saying it!? Balloon

Change the rules and move on

Because of the size of our nation and the huge hold Gaelic Games have, both have to look outside the norm for players that will make both codes competitive on an international stage and keep us relevant.

And that's fine, but at a professional level, these players chose to suit themselves, not who their grandma's are!

If you have a rule to play only Irish players in any sport you'll have players home grown and invested to playing for their country.

The problem is you won't have enough players of a decent standard.

Soccer Countries like Denmark. Uruguay, Norway, Croatia with small populations like Ireland don't have a major sport like GAA to contend with.

Congrats Ireland. Another HUGE Autumn challenge game victory.

You are late to the party with that one!

I was all day trying think of a word to describe it  I didn't want to use Heroes as the Irish Indo has that copyrighted so I just went for tried and trusted "huge" but cleverly used block capitals to stress the hugeness

[Baile Brigín 2]

Let's get it straight from the start, soccer is way down my list of sports, rugby just as far down, I'd rather watch athletes over those sports btw.

It's the rules you are complaining about, if the rules allow non Irish born players to play for Ireland then so be it, having Irish grandparents makes it feel better for some I suppose, but if the country of their birth asked them to play they will pick England over Ireland every time, Rice and Grealish being the two obvious recent ones.

But I'm a racist for saying it!? Balloon

Change the rules and move on

Because of the size of our nation and the huge hold Gaelic Games have, both have to look outside the norm for players that will make both codes competitive on an international stage and keep us relevant.

And that's fine, but at a professional level, these players chose to suit themselves, not who their grandma's are!

If you have a rule to play only Irish players in any sport you'll have players home grown and invested to playing for their country.

The problem is you won't have enough players of a decent standard.

Soccer Countries like Denmark. Uruguay, Norway, Croatia with small populations like Ireland don't have a major sport like GAA to contend with.

Congrats Ireland. Another HUGE Autumn challenge game victory.

You are late to the party with that one!

The nordics have ice hockey and the rest basketball