The IRISH RUGBY thread

[Taylor]

I heard someone on the radio say there are about 150 Irish professionals to pick from.  When you think about it that way, it's hoping for a miracle to think we could reach a WC Final.  It's a tiny pick.

New Zealand Rugby's income is only 20% higher than that of the IRFU, I think , and they pay the pro salaries too so Ireland wouldn't be that far off in terms of numbers of pro players.

We have a silly rule thst you must plsy in Ireland to play for Ireland, so it definitely reduces the amount playing abroad

No we don't

Yeah we do... so do New Zealand!!!

Em....Sexton.....Racing Metro anyone?

[Tony Baloney]

I heard someone on the radio say there are about 150 Irish professionals to pick from.  When you think about it that way, it's hoping for a miracle to think we could reach a WC Final.  It's a tiny pick.

New Zealand Rugby's income is only 20% higher than that of the IRFU, I think , and they pay the pro salaries too so Ireland wouldn't be that far off in terms of numbers of pro players.

We have a silly rule thst you must plsy in Ireland to play for Ireland, so it definitely reduces the amount playing abroad

No we don't

Yeah we do... so do New Zealand!!!

Em....Sexton.....Racing Metro anyone?

Sefton got a free pass.

[seafoid]

The Martin O'Neill problem

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/justin-marshall-ireland-s-great-gameplan-became-predictable-1.4066202
"I didn't think they'd evolved," he said. "I think very much like Wales were tactically, they had a great gameplan that they believed in but it is predictable and it gets analysed.
"They have great players that could implement that gameplan, but when you look at Ireland and where they got to, successfully beating the All Blacks, I felt they needed to create something that the rest of the world hadn't seen and they didn't.
"They came out and played the same gameplan they had been playing, the All Blacks came out and analysed it. They've been beaten by it before, and they were aware of what Ireland would bring. and they didn't bring anything different.
"I hadn't seen any evidence during the build-up to the Rugby World Cup or during the pool stages when Japan knocked them over to show that they had evolved.
"Can I put my finger on it that it was Joe Schmidt. I don't think he's a coach that doesn't want to be creative and doesn't want to evolve. It has to fall back to him thinking that this is what he had to work with, yet this is what he selected, so this is all he can do."


The IRFU were sure we would get to a semi final. It is in their latest strategy. David Nucifora needs to be very honest about this failure.
The policy of only picking those who play in Ireland might be justifiable if the team is doing well but when it's carrying 6 or 7 passengers it isn't.

[Taylor]

I heard someone on the radio say there are about 150 Irish professionals to pick from.  When you think about it that way, it's hoping for a miracle to think we could reach a WC Final.  It's a tiny pick.

New Zealand Rugby's income is only 20% higher than that of the IRFU, I think , and they pay the pro salaries too so Ireland wouldn't be that far off in terms of numbers of pro players.

We have a silly rule thst you must plsy in Ireland to play for Ireland, so it definitely reduces the amount playing abroad

No we don't

Yeah we do... so do New Zealand!!!

Em....Sexton.....Racing Metro anyone?

Sefton got a free pass.

So it isnt a rule then?

[screenexile]

Have you ever heard of an exception to the rule???

[rodney trotter]

Eoin Reddan was picked when he was playing with Wasps. Zebo likely would have been picked but himself and Schmidt didn't get along.

Darrell will probaly have him back in the Squad. Going back a while Keith Wood was picked when playing with Harlequins

[screenexile]

As far as I can see the "rule" was brought in by Schmidt and Sexton is the only one an allowance was made for.

The cases mentioned were with other coaches. Geordan Murphy only ever played for Leicester and was a mainstay for Ireland for a long time but Schmidt changed it.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I heard someone on the radio say there are about 150 Irish professionals to pick from.  When you think about it that way, it's hoping for a miracle to think we could reach a WC Final.  It's a tiny pick.

New Zealand Rugby's income is only 20% higher than that of the IRFU, I think , and they pay the pro salaries too so Ireland wouldn't be that far off in terms of numbers of pro players.

We have a silly rule thst you must plsy in Ireland to play for Ireland, so it definitely reduces the amount playing abroad

No we don't

Yeah we do... so do New Zealand!!!

Em....Sexton.....Racing Metro anyone?

Exactly. They made an exception for him, which caused ructions.

Do you think Zebo didn't make Japan on ability?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Eoin Reddan was picked when he was playing with Wasps. Zebo likely would have been picked but himself and Schmidt didn't get along.

Darrell will probaly have him back in the Squad. Going back a while Keith Wood was picked when playing with Harlequins

Its much more recent than Reddan and Woods

[highorlow]

We need to get Pat Lam on board.

Best thing now is that we have a total disaster in the 6 nations and give Farrell the sack and bring in Lam.

[Milltown Row2]

Was there not issues with Zebo similar to PJ? I thought he didn't get on with Schmidt because of his party ways

[Tony Baloney]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/irfu-policy-on-foreign-based-players-clear-in-ireland-squad-1.3103214?mode=amp

[seafoid]

We need to get Pat Lam on board.

Best thing now is that we have a total disaster in the 6 nations and give Farrell the sack and bring in Lam.

I was thinking the same thing

[LooseCannon]

Eoin Reddan was picked when he was playing with Wasps. Zebo likely would have been picked but himself and Schmidt didn't get along.

Darrell will probaly have him back in the Squad. Going back a while Keith Wood was picked when playing with Harlequins

Tommy Bowe was with the Ospreys as well, wasn't he?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Eoin Reddan was picked when he was playing with Wasps. Zebo likely would have been picked but himself and Schmidt didn't get along.

Darrell will probaly have him back in the Squad. Going back a while Keith Wood was picked when playing with Harlequins

Tommy Bowe was with the Ospreys as well, wasn't he?

Until 2012. Schmidt took over in 2013